Re: [MBZ] Fuses

[andrew strasfogel]

Where is the W123 wiper motor stashed?  My mechanic says they are a pain to
R/R.

On Fri, Jun 5, 2009 at 10:24 PM, Jim Cathey  wrote:

> Well, the red fuse blows when I turn on the wiper switch so that's the
>> problem.  What next?
>>
>
> Unplug the wiper motor and try another fuse.
> If it doesn't blow, time to try another wiper motor!
>
> -- Jim
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Re: [MBZ] Fuses

[Jim Cathey]

Well, the red fuse blows when I turn on the wiper switch so that's the
problem.  What next?


Unplug the wiper motor and try another fuse.
If it doesn't blow, time to try another wiper motor!

-- Jim



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Re: [MBZ] Fuses

[andrew strasfogel]

Well, the red fuse blows when I turn on the wiper switch so that's the
problem.  What next?

On Fri, Jun 5, 2009 at 5:55 PM, Fmiser  wrote:

> > > > ...Yes, I did try all wiper functions, without success. It
> > > > is possible that the replacement fuse shorted out...
>
> > > RLE
> > >
> > > Went open, actually.
>
> > andrew strasfogel wrote:
> >
> > Correction - I definitely do NOT understand!
>
> Technical terms...
>
> "open" means the electricity encounters a gap so it stops
> flowing. Like a burned out fuse.
>
> "short" means a "shortcut" past the proper destination,
> therefore the intended work doesn't get done. And it usually
> means very high current flow so wires melting or fires
> starting are a real possibility.
>
> To avoid catastrophe, a fuse can be put in series so if the
> current flow gets to great the fuse opens and shuts off the
> flow.  Annoying, but better than catastrophe.
>
> --  Philip
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Re: [MBZ] Fuses

[Fmiser]

> > > ...Yes, I did try all wiper functions, without success. It
> > > is possible that the replacement fuse shorted out...

> > RLE
> >
> > Went open, actually.

> andrew strasfogel wrote:
>
> Correction - I definitely do NOT understand!

Technical terms...

"open" means the electricity encounters a gap so it stops
flowing. Like a burned out fuse.

"short" means a "shortcut" past the proper destination,
therefore the intended work doesn't get done. And it usually
means very high current flow so wires melting or fires
starting are a real possibility.  

To avoid catastrophe, a fuse can be put in series so if the
current flow gets to great the fuse opens and shuts off the
flow.  Annoying, but better than catastrophe.

--  Philip

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Re: [MBZ] Fuses

[WILTON]

Burned/melted apart into at least two separated pieces - opened circuit. 
;<))


Wilton

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Not sure if I understand you.

Correction - I definitely do NOT understand!

On Thu, Jun 4, 2009 at 11:32 PM,  wrote:


> ...Yes, I did try all wiper functions, without success. It is possible
> that the replacement fuse shorted out...
>
Went open, actually.

RLE
>
>




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Re: [MBZ] Fuses

[R A Bennell]

A short implies that something closed whereas, when a fuse blows, it opens up 
the circuit.

Randy

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Not sure if I understand you.

Correction - I definitely do NOT understand!

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> > ...Yes, I did try all wiper functions, without success. It is possible
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> Went open, actually.
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Re: [MBZ] Fuses

[andrew strasfogel]

Not sure if I understand you.

Correction - I definitely do NOT understand!

On Thu, Jun 4, 2009 at 11:32 PM,  wrote:

> > ...Yes, I did try all wiper functions, without success. It is possible
> > that the replacement fuse shorted out...
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> Went open, actually.
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> RLE
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Re: [MBZ] Fuses

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> ...Yes, I did try all wiper functions, without success. It is possible 
> that the replacement fuse shorted out...
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Went open, actually.

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Re: [MBZ] Fuses

[OK Don]

But a call to Rusty will result in a complete set of all the fuses
your car needs (and perhaps a few more) arriving on your doorstep -
AND will prevent the dreaded Melting Pistons!

On 8/27/07, Kaleb C. Striplin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Or your PISTONS will MELT
>
> Marshall Booth wrote:
> > Hans Neureiter wrote:
> >> I needed to replace al my fuses. I could only find "fuse kits"
> >> containing a fraction of what is needed. I would have had to get 4
> >> kits @ $ 6.00 a piece.
> >> I stumbled across  jbug.com , a VW supply house.
> >> They have packages of 10 each 8A, 16A and 30A for $ 1.50 a package.
> >> What is more intriguing is that the metal fuse elements are copper.
> >> This should extend the service life of the fuses considerably since
> >> electrolytic corrosion of the lesser metal (aluminum) will be
> >> eliminated.
> >
> > The fuses (no matter what the element is made of) are reliable for about
> > 10 years. NO MORE!
> >
> > Marshall
> >
> >
> >
>
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Re: [MBZ] Fuses

[Kaleb C. Striplin]

Or your PISTONS will MELT

Marshall Booth wrote:
> Hans Neureiter wrote:
>> I needed to replace al my fuses. I could only find "fuse kits"
>> containing a fraction of what is needed. I would have had to get 4
>> kits @ $ 6.00 a piece.
>> I stumbled across  jbug.com , a VW supply house.
>> They have packages of 10 each 8A, 16A and 30A for $ 1.50 a package.
>> What is more intriguing is that the metal fuse elements are copper.
>> This should extend the service life of the fuses considerably since
>> electrolytic corrosion of the lesser metal (aluminum) will be
>> eliminated.
> 
> The fuses (no matter what the element is made of) are reliable for about 
> 10 years. NO MORE!
> 
> Marshall
> 
> 
> 

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Re: [MBZ] Fuses

[Marshall Booth]

Hans Neureiter wrote:
> I needed to replace al my fuses. I could only find "fuse kits"
> containing a fraction of what is needed. I would have had to get 4
> kits @ $ 6.00 a piece.
> I stumbled across  jbug.com , a VW supply house.
> They have packages of 10 each 8A, 16A and 30A for $ 1.50 a package.
> What is more intriguing is that the metal fuse elements are copper.
> This should extend the service life of the fuses considerably since
> electrolytic corrosion of the lesser metal (aluminum) will be
> eliminated.

The fuses (no matter what the element is made of) are reliable for about 
10 years. NO MORE!

Marshall



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[MBZ] Fuses

[Hans Neureiter]

I needed to replace al my fuses. I could only find "fuse kits"
containing a fraction of what is needed. I would have had to get 4
kits @ $ 6.00 a piece.
I stumbled across  jbug.com , a VW supply house.
They have packages of 10 each 8A, 16A and 30A for $ 1.50 a package.
What is more intriguing is that the metal fuse elements are copper.
This should extend the service life of the fuses considerably since
electrolytic corrosion of the lesser metal (aluminum) will be
eliminated.


-- 
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Re: [MBZ] Fuses

[OK Don]

I ordered complete fuse replacement kits from Rusty - great service.

On 8/23/07, Hans Neureiter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Where is a good source to buy these ceramic fuses a'la card.
> all i find is "Kits" ([EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL 
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Re: [MBZ] Fuses

[E M]

just prevents the corosion which is the problem.  used it for 18 years on
every connection and ground, never a problem. if it's effecting the
connection in that you aren't getting one, you're using a little too much.
:-)

Ed
300E

On 24/08/07, Curt Raymond <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>
> Isn't dielectric grease the kind that isn't conductive?
> In fact a google search agrees with me, this is the stuff you're supposed
> to put over something when the connection is already made.
> I can't remember what connection (ie conductive) grease is called...
>
> -Curt
>
> Date: Thu, 23 Aug 2007 21:10:27 -0400
> From: "E M" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: Re: [MBZ] Fuses
> To: "Mercedes Discussion List" 
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> Up in Canada, we can get them at Canadian Tire for next to nothing. I
> put a
> spot of dielectric grease on the tips on my other car, to prevent them
> from
> sticking, and just change them every 4-5 years or so and keep some of
> the
> old in the trunk as spares.
>
> Ed
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Re: [MBZ] Fuses

[Curt Raymond]

Which reminds me how I learned this. I'd installed plugs in my pickup and put a 
dab of dielectric grease on each plug, then put on the wire.
What you're supposed to do is put a smear around the boot so moisture can't 
seep in.
Truck ran okay for awhile but it got so at low RPMs sometimes the whole truck 
would shudder.
I replaced the plugs and apparently that rubbed off enough grease that 
everything was okay...

-Curt

Date: Fri, 24 Aug 2007 12:32:09 -0500
From: Fmiser <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Fuses
To: Mercedes Discussion List 
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It seems than at Fri, 24 Aug 2007 09:57:12 -0400, LarryT wrote:

> there is dielectric grease which enhances connecctions - have a tube
 in my 
> toolbox that I checked the last time this question came up - it says,
 
> "Dielectric" and that it "enhances electrical connections".  I
 believe there 
> is also a Dielectric Grease which does not enhance the connection but
 I 
> believe both are called Dielectric.

The definition of "dielectric" is "not-conductive", or
"anti-electric", or "insulator".

It can enhance connections by preventing oxidation.

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Re: [MBZ] Fuses

[Curt Raymond]

I use regular chassis grease on the battery connections on my '52 Farmall. That 
6v battery has everything it can do to start the tractor, dirty connections 
will easily make it a no-go.
The grease helps the connections stay clean longer and makes them easier to 
clean.

-Curt

Date: Fri, 24 Aug 2007 12:12:50 -0500
From: Fmiser <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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It seems than at Fri, 24 Aug 2007 05:48:30 -0700 (PDT), Curt wrote:

> 
> Isn't dielectric grease the kind that isn't conductive?
> In fact a google search agrees with me, this is the stuff you're
 supposed to put over something when the connection is already made.
> I can't remember what connection (ie conductive) grease is called...
> 
> -Curt
> 
> Up in Canada, we can get them at Canadian Tire for next to nothing. I
>  put a
> spot of dielectric grease on the tips on my other car, to prevent
 them
>  from
> sticking, and just change them every 4-5 years or so and keep some of
>  the
> old in the trunk as spares.
> 
> Ed

You don't need conductive grease. The purpose of the grease is
to keep the air (oxygen) away from the metal. I use wheel
bearing grease on practically every electrical connection from
the battery terminals to lamp sockets. I have never seen any
evidence of a increase in resistance - but I do get 5 year-old
battery connections that have no corrosion and 20 year-old
in-line repairs under the car that are still reliable.

   
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Re: [MBZ] Fuses

[Fmiser]

It seems than at Fri, 24 Aug 2007 09:57:12 -0400, LarryT wrote:

> there is dielectric grease which enhances connecctions - have a tube in my 
> toolbox that I checked the last time this question came up - it says, 
> "Dielectric" and that it "enhances electrical connections".  I believe there 
> is also a Dielectric Grease which does not enhance the connection but I 
> believe both are called Dielectric.

The definition of "dielectric" is "not-conductive", or
"anti-electric", or "insulator".

It can enhance connections by preventing oxidation.

--  Philip
 

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Re: [MBZ] Fuses

[Fmiser]

It seems than at Fri, 24 Aug 2007 05:48:30 -0700 (PDT), Curt wrote:

> 
> Isn't dielectric grease the kind that isn't conductive?
> In fact a google search agrees with me, this is the stuff you're supposed to 
> put over something when the connection is already made.
> I can't remember what connection (ie conductive) grease is called...
> 
> -Curt
> 
> Up in Canada, we can get them at Canadian Tire for next to nothing. I
>  put a
> spot of dielectric grease on the tips on my other car, to prevent them
>  from
> sticking, and just change them every 4-5 years or so and keep some of
>  the
> old in the trunk as spares.
> 
> Ed

You don't need conductive grease. The purpose of the grease is
to keep the air (oxygen) away from the metal. I use wheel
bearing grease on practically every electrical connection from
the battery terminals to lamp sockets. I have never seen any
evidence of a increase in resistance - but I do get 5 year-old
battery connections that have no corrosion and 20 year-old
in-line repairs under the car that are still reliable.

--   Philip

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Re: [MBZ] Fuses

[LarryT]

there is dielectric grease which enhances connecctions - have a tube in my 
toolbox that I checked the last time this question came up - it says, 
"Dielectric" and that it "enhances electrical connections".  I believe there 
is also a Dielectric Grease which does not enhance the connection but I 
believe both are called Dielectric.

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>
> Isn't dielectric grease the kind that isn't conductive?
> In fact a google search agrees with me, this is the stuff you're supposed 
> to put over something when the connection is already made.
> I can't remember what connection (ie conductive) grease is called...
>
> -Curt
>
> Date: Thu, 23 Aug 2007 21:10:27 -0400
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> Up in Canada, we can get them at Canadian Tire for next to nothing. I
> put a
> spot of dielectric grease on the tips on my other car, to prevent them
> from
> sticking, and just change them every 4-5 years or so and keep some of
> the
> old in the trunk as spares.
>
> Ed
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> 911SC
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Re: [MBZ] Fuses

[Allan Streib]

Curt Raymond <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> Isn't dielectric grease the kind that isn't conductive?  In fact a
> google search agrees with me, this is the stuff you're supposed to
> put over something when the connection is already made.  I can't
> remember what connection (ie conductive) grease is called...

There are "contact enhancers" such as Stabilant.  Very good, very
expensive.  It's meant for card-edge or plug/pin type connections, not
switches or other momentary, moving contacts.

http://ralaudio.com/stabilant-22-contact-enhancer-m-2.html

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Re: [MBZ] Fuses

[Curt Raymond]

Isn't dielectric grease the kind that isn't conductive?
In fact a google search agrees with me, this is the stuff you're supposed to 
put over something when the connection is already made.
I can't remember what connection (ie conductive) grease is called...

-Curt

Date: Thu, 23 Aug 2007 21:10:27 -0400
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Up in Canada, we can get them at Canadian Tire for next to nothing. I
 put a
spot of dielectric grease on the tips on my other car, to prevent them
 from
sticking, and just change them every 4-5 years or so and keep some of
 the
old in the trunk as spares.

Ed
300E
911SC

   
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Re: [MBZ] Fuses

[Russ Williams]

The ones at AZ here are Plastic. With Aluminum strip.
The Indy I use has the Ceramic w/ Copper one's for $0.35 each.

Russ W.

Kaleb C. Striplin wrote:
> autozone has them in individual packs.
>
> Hans Neureiter wrote:
>   
>> Where is a good source to buy these ceramic fuses a'la card.
>> all i find is "Kits" ([EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL 
>> PROTECTED]).
>> If I need 3ea 25A fuses I have tu buy 3 kits.
>>
>> 
>
>   

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Re: [MBZ] Fuses

[E M]

Up in Canada, we can get them at Canadian Tire for next to nothing. I put a
spot of dielectric grease on the tips on my other car, to prevent them from
sticking, and just change them every 4-5 years or so and keep some of the
old in the trunk as spares.

Ed
300E
911SC

On 23/08/07, Hans Neureiter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Where is a good source to buy these ceramic fuses a'la card.
> all i find is "Kits" ([EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL 
> PROTECTED]).
> If I need 3ea 25A fuses I have tu buy 3 kits.
>
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Re: [MBZ] Fuses

[Harry Watkins]

Rusty.

On 8/23/07, Hans Neureiter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Where is a good source to buy these ceramic fuses a'la card.
> all i find is "Kits" ([EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL 
> PROTECTED]).
> If I need 3ea 25A fuses I have tu buy 3 kits.
>
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Re: [MBZ] Fuses

[Kaleb C. Striplin]

autozone has them in individual packs.

Hans Neureiter wrote:
> Where is a good source to buy these ceramic fuses a'la card.
> all i find is "Kits" ([EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL 
> PROTECTED]).
> If I need 3ea 25A fuses I have tu buy 3 kits.
> 

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[MBZ] Fuses

[Hans Neureiter]

Where is a good source to buy these ceramic fuses a'la card.
all i find is "Kits" ([EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED]).
If I need 3ea 25A fuses I have tu buy 3 kits.

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Re: [MBZ] Fuses -----

[OK Don]

They aren't on the same fuse - but I did replace the fuse for the EDS,
since I replaced all of them. I didn't notice that one being bad, but
it sure runs better with all new fuses - and my pistons aren't
melting!


> Interesting, I wouldn't have guessed that the ACC and the EDS idle
> control were on the same fuse.
>
> FYI, a good way to check if your EDS is defective that i discovered
> quite by accident is to unplug the connector on top of the IP right
> behind the ALDA and see if the idle gets lumpy.
>
> Alex Chamberlain
> '87 300D Turbo

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Re: [MBZ] Fuses -----

[Alex Chamberlain]

On 7/22/07, OK Don <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Two weeks ago the SDL started loping at idle - not enough to see the
> tach needle swing, but enough to be disconcerting.  Two days ago the
> ACC stopped working - totally. No response to any button. The
> indicator light for the mono valve stayed off.
>
>  As I removed one fuse that was quite
> blown, I looked it up and found it to be for the ACC, among other
> circuits.
>

Interesting, I wouldn't have guessed that the ACC and the EDS idle
control were on the same fuse.

FYI, a good way to check if your EDS is defective that i discovered
quite by accident is to unplug the connector on top of the IP right
behind the ALDA and see if the idle gets lumpy.

Alex Chamberlain
'87 300D Turbo

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Re: [MBZ] Fuses -----

[E M]

For those of you in Canada, you can usually find all the different sizes
real cheap in Canadian Tire.  I do them on my porsche as Larry says. I also
put a dab of dielectric grease on the ends of each and give them a spin
ffrom time to time.  I've never had a fuse, connection, or ground related
problem with that car yet, and it's an '80.

Ed
300E

On 22/07/07, LarryT <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> IMHO, This should be standard maintanence for each 10 year
> anniversary.  Or
> sooner if mysterious problems arise,  as sometimes it *really* is that
> simple.
>
> Larry T (67 MGB, 74 911, 78 240D, 91 300D)
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>
> - Original Message -
> From: "OK Don" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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> Sent: Sunday, July 22, 2007 7:36 PM
> Subject: [MBZ] Fuses -
>
>
> > It's been a while since I recall seeing this topic, so I thought I'd
> > make sure that it remains forefront in our minds ;-)
> >
> > Two weeks ago the SDL started loping at idle - not enough to see the
> > tach needle swing, but enough to be disconcerting.  Two days ago the
> > ACC stopped working - totally. No response to any button. The
> > indicator light for the mono valve stayed off.
> > A few years ago, on advise from this list, I purchased a couple of
> > complete fuse replacement kits from Rusty. This seemed like a good
> > time to install one -
> >
> > Rather than attempt to even determine which fuses might be suspect, I
> > proceeded to replace all the fuses in the fuse box under the hood
> > (bonnet for those not in the US). As I removed one fuse that was quite
> > blown, I looked it up and found it to be for the ACC, among other
> > circuits.
> >
> > The ACC works fine now, and the engine idles smooth and steady as you
> > could ask for.
> >
> > Therefore - to paraphrase our guru - "Replace ALL the FUSES now!!!".
> >
> > Thank you Marshal ---
> >
> > --
> > OK Don, KD5NRO
> > Norman, OK
> > "There are three kinds of lies: lies, damn lies, and statistics."
> > -Benjamin Disraeli
> > '90 300D, '87 300SDL, '81 240D, '78 450SLC, '97 Ply Grand Voyager
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Re: [MBZ] Fuses -----

[LarryT]

IMHO, This should be standard maintanence for each 10 year anniversary.  Or 
sooner if mysterious problems arise,  as sometimes it *really* is that 
simple.

Larry T (67 MGB, 74 911, 78 240D, 91 300D)
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Sent: Sunday, July 22, 2007 7:36 PM
Subject: [MBZ] Fuses -


> It's been a while since I recall seeing this topic, so I thought I'd
> make sure that it remains forefront in our minds ;-)
>
> Two weeks ago the SDL started loping at idle - not enough to see the
> tach needle swing, but enough to be disconcerting.  Two days ago the
> ACC stopped working - totally. No response to any button. The
> indicator light for the mono valve stayed off.
> A few years ago, on advise from this list, I purchased a couple of
> complete fuse replacement kits from Rusty. This seemed like a good
> time to install one -
>
> Rather than attempt to even determine which fuses might be suspect, I
> proceeded to replace all the fuses in the fuse box under the hood
> (bonnet for those not in the US). As I removed one fuse that was quite
> blown, I looked it up and found it to be for the ACC, among other
> circuits.
>
> The ACC works fine now, and the engine idles smooth and steady as you
> could ask for.
>
> Therefore - to paraphrase our guru - "Replace ALL the FUSES now!!!".
>
> Thank you Marshal ---
>
> -- 
> OK Don, KD5NRO
> Norman, OK
> "There are three kinds of lies: lies, damn lies, and statistics."
> -Benjamin Disraeli
> '90 300D, '87 300SDL, '81 240D, '78 450SLC, '97 Ply Grand Voyager
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[MBZ] Fuses -----

[OK Don]

It's been a while since I recall seeing this topic, so I thought I'd
make sure that it remains forefront in our minds ;-)

Two weeks ago the SDL started loping at idle - not enough to see the
tach needle swing, but enough to be disconcerting.  Two days ago the
ACC stopped working - totally. No response to any button. The
indicator light for the mono valve stayed off.
A few years ago, on advise from this list, I purchased a couple of
complete fuse replacement kits from Rusty. This seemed like a good
time to install one -

Rather than attempt to even determine which fuses might be suspect, I
proceeded to replace all the fuses in the fuse box under the hood
(bonnet for those not in the US). As I removed one fuse that was quite
blown, I looked it up and found it to be for the ACC, among other
circuits.

The ACC works fine now, and the engine idles smooth and steady as you
could ask for.

Therefore - to paraphrase our guru - "Replace ALL the FUSES now!!!".

Thank you Marshal ---

-- 
OK Don, KD5NRO
Norman, OK
"There are three kinds of lies: lies, damn lies, and statistics."
-Benjamin Disraeli
'90 300D, '87 300SDL, '81 240D, '78 450SLC, '97 Ply Grand Voyager

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Re: [MBZ] Fuses in a 115? and A/C ?

[Jim Cathey]

It was a white one so 8A ... for the auxiliary fan.


Yeah, no way an 8A was right for that.

-- Jim

Re: [MBZ] Fuses in a 115? and A/C ?

[R A Bennell]

I seem to have solved a couple of my recent questions. The fuse that was 
blowing was the wrong size. It was a white
one so 8A and should have been a red one 16A. It turns out to be the fuse for 
the auxiliary fan so that now works.
Still some stuff to figure out but I am happy that turned out to be so easy.

Randy

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Sent: Monday, July 31, 2006 2:45 PM
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Subject: Re: [MBZ] Fuses in a 115?


I can trace the wiring or pull the fuse and see what does not work. I just 
thought that someone out there might
know or remember what the various fuse boxes are for or know where in the CD 
manual to look. I could look at wiring
diagrams I suppose. That might tell me something as the older diagrams are a 
lot simpler than the new car diagrams.

Randy


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> One of the pop off boxes has a red fuse and a white fuse. The white
> one keeps blowing. I am wondering if both fuses should be red.

What does it fuse?  Maybe we can work out its correct rating from that.

-- Jim

Re: [MBZ] Fuses in a 115?

[R A Bennell]

I can trace the wiring or pull the fuse and see what does not work. I just 
thought that someone out there might
know or remember what the various fuse boxes are for or know where in the CD 
manual to look. I could look at wiring
diagrams I suppose. That might tell me something as the older diagrams are a 
lot simpler than the new car diagrams.

Randy


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Subject: Re: [MBZ] Fuses in a 115?


> One of the pop off boxes has a red fuse and a white fuse. The white
> one keeps blowing. I am wondering if both fuses should be red.

What does it fuse?  Maybe we can work out its correct rating from that.

-- Jim


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Re: [MBZ] Fuses in a 115?

[Jim Cathey]

One of the pop off boxes has a red fuse and a white fuse. The white 
one keeps blowing. I am wondering if both fuses should be red.


What does it fuse?  Maybe we can work out its correct rating from that.

-- Jim

[MBZ] Fuses in a 115?

[R A Bennell]

My 76 300D has the one main fuse block on the left front fender. Just above and 
ahead of it are 3 more small fuse
boxes. Two of them have pop off covers and the 3rd one has a threaded rod with 
a knob on top that must be undone to
remove the cover.
Each of the 3 has 2 fuses.

One of the pop off boxes has a red fuse and a white fuse. The white one keeps 
blowing. I am wondering if both fuses
should be red. All of the other small boxes with 2 fuses seem to have 2 of the 
same color. That makes me wonder if
this one should as well. Anyone out there know for sure?

I can do some more poking around but am hoping for input from the list. The 
older I get, the more I like things
that are easy.

Randy B