Re: [MBZ] GERD for dummies

[Mitch Haley via Mercedes]

> On October 16, 2017 at 2:16 PM Floyd Thursby via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> 
> I asked my doc (the one I pay) why at bedtime and he said well that is 
> when most people have the symptoms, so better to take it before symptoms 
> appear at night.  Makes sense..

I was thinking that Prilosec and Nexium were take before a meal, you pick the 
meal. I took Nexium morning and evening when I was on 2 a day. Now I take 
Prilosec OTC 1/2 hour before supper as needed, usually go through about a 42 
pack a year.

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Re: [MBZ] GERD for dummies

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

Brilliant. Will do.

On Mon, Oct 16, 2017 at 2:16 PM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> I asked my doc (the one I pay) why at bedtime and he said well that is
> when most people have the symptoms, so better to take it before symptoms
> appear at night.  Makes sense.
>
> I remember about Nexium now, there had been some recent studies that show
> it interferes with calcium uptake (and the calcium interferes with
> synthroid uptake so I take those at night too and the synthroid in the
> morning) so that is why I changed the med. You should probably take a
> calcium tablet, or I guess the antacids are about the same thing, and a
> vitamin D tab every day as well to help with your calcium as you get
> older.  Simple stuff, can't hurt anything.
>
> -FT
>
>
> On 10/16/17 2:06 PM, Andrew Strasfogel wrote:
>
>> Zantac is the only one I haven't tried.  Most of them are consumed in the
>> AM, but my symptoms only appear at 3-4 AM so I need a magic bullet at
>> bedtime.
>>
>> On Mon, Oct 16, 2017 at 2:03 PM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes <
>> mercedes@okiebenz.com > wrote:
>>
>> Works for me, mostly, unless I have something really acidic like
>> pasta sauce.  You can have a coupla antacids too with it.
>>
>> --R
>>
>>
>> On 10/16/17 11:10 AM, Andrew Strasfogel wrote:
>>
>> One Zantac at bedtime prevents reflux?
>>
>> On Mon, Oct 16, 2017 at 9:51 AM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes
>> 
>> >>
>>
>> wrote:
>>
>> Avoid acidy foods (tomato sauce/pasta) and alcohol in the
>> evenings.  Ramitidine pill at bedtime to help the night
>> reflux.
>> (My 3 docs recommend this, including the one I pay
>> directly, the
>> scrip version is Zantac but the Costco version is lots
>> cheaper and
>> seems to work as well). I was doing Nexium before but
>> there was
>> something about it that made me switch, I forget what it
>> was.  But
>> they all kinda work the same, PPIs.  Also adjusting your
>> diet will
>> help a lot.
>>
>> I like the plain fizzy water with various flavors when I want
>> something fizzy.  In general I drink plain tea for
>> brekkie, then
>> fill my Bubba52 once or twice in the morning, then iced
>> unsweet
>> tea for the afternoon, water in the evenings.  Cut way back on
>> alcohol, which I now finds gives me a headache even after
>> one beer
>> or wine or mixed drink, which is kinda weird.  And a friend is
>> going alcohol-free due to some issues with it so I feel kinda
>> solidarity in that regard so that helps avoid it, and I find I
>> really don't miss it much now either.
>>
>> Fruits, veggies, less meat, whole grain stuff, turkey for your
>> lunch meat, some mustard with it, and pickles, a lot of
>> fish for
>> suppers, grilled or oven baked/broiled (not fried), olive oil,
>> minimal processed stuff.  For snacks hummus and carrots
>> and such
>> can fill you up pretty well.  You will also be surprised
>> at how
>> low your food bill can be without buying a lot of processed
>> stuff.  I also find now that eating much meat (beef, chicken,
>> pork) now makes me feel all bloated and unpleasant.
>>
>> Your body will adjust to the "new normal" after a little
>> while,
>> food will actually start tasting good and you will enjoy the
>> flavors and textures more, and you will find yourself
>> wondering
>> how you could ever eat/drink that crap before when you start
>> feeling better, "loose wait" and have more energy
>> (nudgenudgewinkwinksaynomore).  If you have any sort of
>> concern
>> about big animal farming practices and the concomitant
>> environmental effects you can do your part in that regard
>> too. (I
>> am kinda neutral on it but some people feel very strongly
>> about
>> it, esp how the fast food joints cause it.)
>>
>> Good luck!
>>
>> --FT
>>
>>
>> On 10/14/17 3:08 PM, G Mann via Mercedes wrote:
>>
>> All "Diet cola" regardless of brand rely on the use of
>> artificial sweetener
>> and loads of it.
>>
>>
>>
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Re: [MBZ] GERD for dummies

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

I asked my doc (the one I pay) why at bedtime and he said well that is 
when most people have the symptoms, so better to take it before symptoms 
appear at night.  Makes sense.


I remember about Nexium now, there had been some recent studies that 
show it interferes with calcium uptake (and the calcium interferes with 
synthroid uptake so I take those at night too and the synthroid in the 
morning) so that is why I changed the med. You should probably take a 
calcium tablet, or I guess the antacids are about the same thing, and a 
vitamin D tab every day as well to help with your calcium as you get 
older.  Simple stuff, can't hurt anything.


-FT


On 10/16/17 2:06 PM, Andrew Strasfogel wrote:
Zantac is the only one I haven't tried.  Most of them are consumed in 
the AM, but my symptoms only appear at 3-4 AM so I need a magic bullet 
at bedtime.


On Mon, Oct 16, 2017 at 2:03 PM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes 
> wrote:


Works for me, mostly, unless I have something really acidic like
pasta sauce.  You can have a coupla antacids too with it.

--R


On 10/16/17 11:10 AM, Andrew Strasfogel wrote:

One Zantac at bedtime prevents reflux?

On Mon, Oct 16, 2017 at 9:51 AM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes

>>
wrote:

    Avoid acidy foods (tomato sauce/pasta) and alcohol in the
    evenings.  Ramitidine pill at bedtime to help the night
reflux.
    (My 3 docs recommend this, including the one I pay
directly, the
    scrip version is Zantac but the Costco version is lots
cheaper and
    seems to work as well). I was doing Nexium before but
there was
    something about it that made me switch, I forget what it
was.  But
    they all kinda work the same, PPIs.  Also adjusting your
diet will
    help a lot.

    I like the plain fizzy water with various flavors when I want
    something fizzy.  In general I drink plain tea for
brekkie, then
    fill my Bubba52 once or twice in the morning, then iced
unsweet
    tea for the afternoon, water in the evenings.  Cut way back on
    alcohol, which I now finds gives me a headache even after
one beer
    or wine or mixed drink, which is kinda weird.  And a friend is
    going alcohol-free due to some issues with it so I feel kinda
    solidarity in that regard so that helps avoid it, and I find I
    really don't miss it much now either.

    Fruits, veggies, less meat, whole grain stuff, turkey for your
    lunch meat, some mustard with it, and pickles, a lot of
fish for
    suppers, grilled or oven baked/broiled (not fried), olive oil,
    minimal processed stuff.  For snacks hummus and carrots
and such
    can fill you up pretty well.  You will also be surprised
at how
    low your food bill can be without buying a lot of processed
    stuff.  I also find now that eating much meat (beef, chicken,
    pork) now makes me feel all bloated and unpleasant.

    Your body will adjust to the "new normal" after a little
while,
    food will actually start tasting good and you will enjoy the
    flavors and textures more, and you will find yourself
wondering
    how you could ever eat/drink that crap before when you start
    feeling better, "loose wait" and have more energy
    (nudgenudgewinkwinksaynomore).  If you have any sort of
concern
    about big animal farming practices and the concomitant
    environmental effects you can do your part in that regard
too. (I
    am kinda neutral on it but some people feel very strongly
about
    it, esp how the fast food joints cause it.)

    Good luck!

    --FT


    On 10/14/17 3:08 PM, G Mann via Mercedes wrote:

        All "Diet cola" regardless of brand rely on the use of
        artificial sweetener
        and loads of it.



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Re: [MBZ] GERD for dummies

[Dan--- via Mercedes]

It's funny, as I rarely have any kind of acid reflux issues, but in the past 
year or so I've found that pizza sauce really sets me off if I have pizza for 
dinner. About 1-2 AM I'll wake up in full on acid in the throat/mouth yuck.

We now order pizza with either light or no sauce.

-D

> On Oct 16, 2017, at 2:06 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Zantac is the only one I haven't tried.  Most of them are consumed in the
> AM, but my symptoms only appear at 3-4 AM so I need a magic bullet at
> bedtime.
> 
> On Mon, Oct 16, 2017 at 2:03 PM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> 
>> Works for me, mostly, unless I have something really acidic like pasta
>> sauce.  You can have a coupla antacids too with it.
>> 
>> --R
>> 
>> 
>>> On 10/16/17 11:10 AM, Andrew Strasfogel wrote:
>>> 
>>> One  Zantac at bedtime prevents reflux?
>>> 
>>> On Mon, Oct 16, 2017 at 9:51 AM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes <
>>> mercedes@okiebenz.com > wrote:
>>> 
>>>Avoid acidy foods (tomato sauce/pasta) and alcohol in the
>>>evenings.  Ramitidine pill at bedtime to help the night reflux.
>>>(My 3 docs recommend this, including the one I pay directly, the
>>>scrip version is Zantac but the Costco version is lots cheaper and
>>>seems to work as well). I was doing Nexium before but there was
>>>something about it that made me switch, I forget what it was.  But
>>>they all kinda work the same, PPIs.  Also adjusting your diet will
>>>help a lot.
>>> 
>>>I like the plain fizzy water with various flavors when I want
>>>something fizzy.  In general I drink plain tea for brekkie, then
>>>fill my Bubba52 once or twice in the morning, then iced unsweet
>>>tea for the afternoon, water in the evenings.  Cut way back on
>>>alcohol, which I now finds gives me a headache even after one beer
>>>or wine or mixed drink, which is kinda weird.  And a friend is
>>>going alcohol-free due to some issues with it so I feel kinda
>>>solidarity in that regard so that helps avoid it, and I find I
>>>really don't miss it much now either.
>>> 
>>>Fruits, veggies, less meat, whole grain stuff, turkey for your
> 


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Re: [MBZ] GERD for dummies

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

Zantac is the only one I haven't tried.  Most of them are consumed in the
AM, but my symptoms only appear at 3-4 AM so I need a magic bullet at
bedtime.

On Mon, Oct 16, 2017 at 2:03 PM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> Works for me, mostly, unless I have something really acidic like pasta
> sauce.  You can have a coupla antacids too with it.
>
> --R
>
>
> On 10/16/17 11:10 AM, Andrew Strasfogel wrote:
>
>> One  Zantac at bedtime prevents reflux?
>>
>> On Mon, Oct 16, 2017 at 9:51 AM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes <
>> mercedes@okiebenz.com > wrote:
>>
>> Avoid acidy foods (tomato sauce/pasta) and alcohol in the
>> evenings.  Ramitidine pill at bedtime to help the night reflux.
>> (My 3 docs recommend this, including the one I pay directly, the
>> scrip version is Zantac but the Costco version is lots cheaper and
>> seems to work as well). I was doing Nexium before but there was
>> something about it that made me switch, I forget what it was.  But
>> they all kinda work the same, PPIs.  Also adjusting your diet will
>> help a lot.
>>
>> I like the plain fizzy water with various flavors when I want
>> something fizzy.  In general I drink plain tea for brekkie, then
>> fill my Bubba52 once or twice in the morning, then iced unsweet
>> tea for the afternoon, water in the evenings.  Cut way back on
>> alcohol, which I now finds gives me a headache even after one beer
>> or wine or mixed drink, which is kinda weird.  And a friend is
>> going alcohol-free due to some issues with it so I feel kinda
>> solidarity in that regard so that helps avoid it, and I find I
>> really don't miss it much now either.
>>
>> Fruits, veggies, less meat, whole grain stuff, turkey for your
>> lunch meat, some mustard with it, and pickles, a lot of fish for
>> suppers, grilled or oven baked/broiled (not fried), olive oil,
>> minimal processed stuff.  For snacks hummus and carrots and such
>> can fill you up pretty well.  You will also be surprised at how
>> low your food bill can be without buying a lot of processed
>> stuff.  I also find now that eating much meat (beef, chicken,
>> pork) now makes me feel all bloated and unpleasant.
>>
>> Your body will adjust to the "new normal" after a little while,
>> food will actually start tasting good and you will enjoy the
>> flavors and textures more, and you will find yourself wondering
>> how you could ever eat/drink that crap before when you start
>> feeling better, "loose wait" and have more energy
>> (nudgenudgewinkwinksaynomore).  If you have any sort of concern
>> about big animal farming practices and the concomitant
>> environmental effects you can do your part in that regard too. (I
>> am kinda neutral on it but some people feel very strongly about
>> it, esp how the fast food joints cause it.)
>>
>> Good luck!
>>
>> --FT
>>
>>
>> On 10/14/17 3:08 PM, G Mann via Mercedes wrote:
>>
>> All "Diet cola" regardless of brand rely on the use of
>> artificial sweetener
>> and loads of it.
>>
>>
>>
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Re: [MBZ] GERD for dummies

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

Works for me, mostly, unless I have something really acidic like pasta 
sauce.  You can have a coupla antacids too with it.


--R


On 10/16/17 11:10 AM, Andrew Strasfogel wrote:

One  Zantac at bedtime prevents reflux?

On Mon, Oct 16, 2017 at 9:51 AM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes 
> wrote:


Avoid acidy foods (tomato sauce/pasta) and alcohol in the
evenings.  Ramitidine pill at bedtime to help the night reflux.
(My 3 docs recommend this, including the one I pay directly, the
scrip version is Zantac but the Costco version is lots cheaper and
seems to work as well). I was doing Nexium before but there was
something about it that made me switch, I forget what it was.  But
they all kinda work the same, PPIs.  Also adjusting your diet will
help a lot.

I like the plain fizzy water with various flavors when I want
something fizzy.  In general I drink plain tea for brekkie, then
fill my Bubba52 once or twice in the morning, then iced unsweet
tea for the afternoon, water in the evenings.  Cut way back on
alcohol, which I now finds gives me a headache even after one beer
or wine or mixed drink, which is kinda weird.  And a friend is
going alcohol-free due to some issues with it so I feel kinda
solidarity in that regard so that helps avoid it, and I find I
really don't miss it much now either.

Fruits, veggies, less meat, whole grain stuff, turkey for your
lunch meat, some mustard with it, and pickles, a lot of fish for
suppers, grilled or oven baked/broiled (not fried), olive oil,
minimal processed stuff.  For snacks hummus and carrots and such
can fill you up pretty well.  You will also be surprised at how
low your food bill can be without buying a lot of processed
stuff.  I also find now that eating much meat (beef, chicken,
pork) now makes me feel all bloated and unpleasant.

Your body will adjust to the "new normal" after a little while,
food will actually start tasting good and you will enjoy the
flavors and textures more, and you will find yourself wondering
how you could ever eat/drink that crap before when you start
feeling better, "loose wait" and have more energy
(nudgenudgewinkwinksaynomore).  If you have any sort of concern
about big animal farming practices and the concomitant
environmental effects you can do your part in that regard too. (I
am kinda neutral on it but some people feel very strongly about
it, esp how the fast food joints cause it.)

Good luck!

--FT


On 10/14/17 3:08 PM, G Mann via Mercedes wrote:

All "Diet cola" regardless of brand rely on the use of
artificial sweetener
and loads of it.



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Re: [MBZ] GERD for dummies

[Curt Raymond via Mercedes]

Last night I stopped at the supermarket wanting to get something for lunch 
today. I was going to buy lunch meat but there was a line at the deli counter, 
instead I found southern style boneless pork ribs on sale for $1.50/lb in 3lb 
packages. One package plus some BBQ sauce made dinner and lunch for 2 days for 
cheap...
-Curt
 

On Monday, October 16, 2017, 9:51:28 AM EDT, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes 
 wrote:  
 
 Avoid acidy foods (tomato sauce/pasta) and alcohol in the evenings.  
Ramitidine pill at bedtime to help the night reflux. (My 3 docs 
recommend this, including the one I pay directly, the scrip version is 
Zantac but the Costco version is lots cheaper and seems to work as 
well). I was doing Nexium before but there was something about it that 
made me switch, I forget what it was.  But they all kinda work the same, 
PPIs.  Also adjusting your diet will help a lot.

I like the plain fizzy water with various flavors when I want something 
fizzy.  In general I drink plain tea for brekkie, then fill my Bubba52 
once or twice in the morning, then iced unsweet tea for the afternoon, 
water in the evenings.  Cut way back on alcohol, which I now finds gives 
me a headache even after one beer or wine or mixed drink, which is kinda 
weird.  And a friend is going alcohol-free due to some issues with it so 
I feel kinda solidarity in that regard so that helps avoid it, and I 
find I really don't miss it much now either.

Fruits, veggies, less meat, whole grain stuff, turkey for your lunch 
meat, some mustard with it, and pickles, a lot of fish for suppers, 
grilled or oven baked/broiled (not fried), olive oil, minimal processed 
stuff.  For snacks hummus and carrots and such can fill you up pretty 
well.  You will also be surprised at how low your food bill can be 
without buying a lot of processed stuff.  I also find now that eating 
much meat (beef, chicken, pork) now makes me feel all bloated and 
unpleasant.

Your body will adjust to the "new normal" after a little while, food 
will actually start tasting good and you will enjoy the flavors and 
textures more, and you will find yourself wondering how you could ever 
eat/drink that crap before when you start feeling better, "loose wait" 
and have more energy (nudgenudgewinkwinksaynomore).  If you have any 
sort of concern about big animal farming practices and the concomitant 
environmental effects you can do your part in that regard too. (I am 
kinda neutral on it but some people feel very strongly about it, esp how 
the fast food joints cause it.)

Good luck!

--FT


On 10/14/17 3:08 PM, G Mann via Mercedes wrote:
> All "Diet cola" regardless of brand rely on the use of artificial sweetener
> and loads of it.


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Re: [MBZ] GERD for dummies

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

One  Zantac at bedtime prevents reflux?

On Mon, Oct 16, 2017 at 9:51 AM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> Avoid acidy foods (tomato sauce/pasta) and alcohol in the evenings.
> Ramitidine pill at bedtime to help the night reflux. (My 3 docs recommend
> this, including the one I pay directly, the scrip version is Zantac but the
> Costco version is lots cheaper and seems to work as well). I was doing
> Nexium before but there was something about it that made me switch, I
> forget what it was.  But they all kinda work the same, PPIs.  Also
> adjusting your diet will help a lot.
>
> I like the plain fizzy water with various flavors when I want something
> fizzy.  In general I drink plain tea for brekkie, then fill my Bubba52 once
> or twice in the morning, then iced unsweet tea for the afternoon, water in
> the evenings.  Cut way back on alcohol, which I now finds gives me a
> headache even after one beer or wine or mixed drink, which is kinda weird.
> And a friend is going alcohol-free due to some issues with it so I feel
> kinda solidarity in that regard so that helps avoid it, and I find I really
> don't miss it much now either.
>
> Fruits, veggies, less meat, whole grain stuff, turkey for your lunch meat,
> some mustard with it, and pickles, a lot of fish for suppers, grilled or
> oven baked/broiled (not fried), olive oil, minimal processed stuff.  For
> snacks hummus and carrots and such can fill you up pretty well.  You will
> also be surprised at how low your food bill can be without buying a lot of
> processed stuff.  I also find now that eating much meat (beef, chicken,
> pork) now makes me feel all bloated and unpleasant.
>
> Your body will adjust to the "new normal" after a little while, food will
> actually start tasting good and you will enjoy the flavors and textures
> more, and you will find yourself wondering how you could ever eat/drink
> that crap before when you start feeling better, "loose wait" and have more
> energy (nudgenudgewinkwinksaynomore).  If you have any sort of concern
> about big animal farming practices and the concomitant environmental
> effects you can do your part in that regard too. (I am kinda neutral on it
> but some people feel very strongly about it, esp how the fast food joints
> cause it.)
>
> Good luck!
>
> --FT
>
>
> On 10/14/17 3:08 PM, G Mann via Mercedes wrote:
>
>> All "Diet cola" regardless of brand rely on the use of artificial
>> sweetener
>> and loads of it.
>>
>
>
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Re: [MBZ] GERD for dummies

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

Avoid acidy foods (tomato sauce/pasta) and alcohol in the evenings.  
Ramitidine pill at bedtime to help the night reflux. (My 3 docs 
recommend this, including the one I pay directly, the scrip version is 
Zantac but the Costco version is lots cheaper and seems to work as 
well). I was doing Nexium before but there was something about it that 
made me switch, I forget what it was.  But they all kinda work the same, 
PPIs.  Also adjusting your diet will help a lot.


I like the plain fizzy water with various flavors when I want something 
fizzy.  In general I drink plain tea for brekkie, then fill my Bubba52 
once or twice in the morning, then iced unsweet tea for the afternoon, 
water in the evenings.  Cut way back on alcohol, which I now finds gives 
me a headache even after one beer or wine or mixed drink, which is kinda 
weird.  And a friend is going alcohol-free due to some issues with it so 
I feel kinda solidarity in that regard so that helps avoid it, and I 
find I really don't miss it much now either.


Fruits, veggies, less meat, whole grain stuff, turkey for your lunch 
meat, some mustard with it, and pickles, a lot of fish for suppers, 
grilled or oven baked/broiled (not fried), olive oil, minimal processed 
stuff.  For snacks hummus and carrots and such can fill you up pretty 
well.  You will also be surprised at how low your food bill can be 
without buying a lot of processed stuff.  I also find now that eating 
much meat (beef, chicken, pork) now makes me feel all bloated and 
unpleasant.


Your body will adjust to the "new normal" after a little while, food 
will actually start tasting good and you will enjoy the flavors and 
textures more, and you will find yourself wondering how you could ever 
eat/drink that crap before when you start feeling better, "loose wait" 
and have more energy (nudgenudgewinkwinksaynomore).  If you have any 
sort of concern about big animal farming practices and the concomitant 
environmental effects you can do your part in that regard too. (I am 
kinda neutral on it but some people feel very strongly about it, esp how 
the fast food joints cause it.)


Good luck!

--FT


On 10/14/17 3:08 PM, G Mann via Mercedes wrote:

All "Diet cola" regardless of brand rely on the use of artificial sweetener
and loads of it.



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> On October 16, 2017 at 9:29 AM Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> 
> What's the patent name for this generic?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ranitidine

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What's the patent name for this generic?

On Mon, Oct 16, 2017 at 5:58 AM, M. Mitchell Marmel via Mercedes <
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> I use a daily ranitidene tablet which helps the GERD.  Still have problems
> with occasional cardiac sphincter spasms, which in turn trigger panic
> attacks.  A light dose of Xanax helps with this...
>
> On Sun, Oct 15, 2017 at 12:03 AM, Bob Rentfro via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>
> > Paleo is very effective. It got me from 300lbs to 198lbs...well, paleo
> > plus CrossFit.
> > Sadly, as I went back to eating whatever and drinking booze a couple of
> > times a week, I put 40ish back on.
> > It gets harder the older you get and what once worked is not quite are
> > effective.
> >
> > Bob R
> >
> > Sent from my iPhone
> >
> > > On Oct 14, 2017, at 5:48 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes <
> > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > Just watched this.  It’s lengthy, but well done.
> > >
> > > Now trying to figure out how to get as much high fructose corn syrup
> out
> > of my diet as possible without going full on paleo.
> > >
> > >
> > > -D
> > >
> > >
> > >> On Oct 14, 2017, at 6:50 PM, Mountain Man via Mercedes <
> > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> > >>
> > >> Grant wrote:
> > >>> All "Diet cola" regardless of brand rely on the use of artificial
> > sweetener
> > >>> and loads of it.
> > >>
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I use a daily ranitidene tablet which helps the GERD.  Still have problems
with occasional cardiac sphincter spasms, which in turn trigger panic
attacks.  A light dose of Xanax helps with this...

On Sun, Oct 15, 2017 at 12:03 AM, Bob Rentfro via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> Paleo is very effective. It got me from 300lbs to 198lbs...well, paleo
> plus CrossFit.
> Sadly, as I went back to eating whatever and drinking booze a couple of
> times a week, I put 40ish back on.
> It gets harder the older you get and what once worked is not quite are
> effective.
>
> Bob R
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> > On Oct 14, 2017, at 5:48 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> > Just watched this.  It’s lengthy, but well done.
> >
> > Now trying to figure out how to get as much high fructose corn syrup out
> of my diet as possible without going full on paleo.
> >
> >
> > -D
> >
> >
> >> On Oct 14, 2017, at 6:50 PM, Mountain Man via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> Grant wrote:
> >>> All "Diet cola" regardless of brand rely on the use of artificial
> sweetener
> >>> and loads of it.
> >>
> >> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dBnniua6-oM
> >> tin.man
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[Bob Rentfro via Mercedes]

Paleo is very effective. It got me from 300lbs to 198lbs...well, paleo plus 
CrossFit. 
Sadly, as I went back to eating whatever and drinking booze a couple of times a 
week, I put 40ish back on. 
It gets harder the older you get and what once worked is not quite are 
effective. 

Bob R

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> On Oct 14, 2017, at 5:48 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> Just watched this.  It’s lengthy, but well done.
> 
> Now trying to figure out how to get as much high fructose corn syrup out of 
> my diet as possible without going full on paleo.
> 
> 
> -D
> 
> 
>> On Oct 14, 2017, at 6:50 PM, Mountain Man via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> Grant wrote:
>>> All "Diet cola" regardless of brand rely on the use of artificial sweetener
>>> and loads of it.
>> 
>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dBnniua6-oM
>> tin.man
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Re: [MBZ] GERD for dummies

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It is not too hard if you cook your own food from raw fruit, veg, dairy 
and meat; and avoid soda, and are careful about store bought juices.  
Just read the labels.
I don't know why, but HFCS can your guts inside out.  I wonder if it is 
the Bt and other disease resistant traits, GMO or other miracles of 
modern corn, soy, canola and other grain production.

Dan Penoff via Mercedes 
October 14, 2017 at 7:48 PM
Just watched this. It’s lengthy, but well done.

Now trying to figure out how to get as much high fructose corn syrup 
out of my diet as possible without going full on paleo.



-D



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[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

Just watched this.  It’s lengthy, but well done.

Now trying to figure out how to get as much high fructose corn syrup out of my 
diet as possible without going full on paleo.


-D


> On Oct 14, 2017, at 6:50 PM, Mountain Man via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Grant wrote:
>> All "Diet cola" regardless of brand rely on the use of artificial sweetener
>> and loads of it.
> 
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dBnniua6-oM
> tin.man
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Re: [MBZ] GERD for dummies

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Grant wrote:
> All "Diet cola" regardless of brand rely on the use of artificial sweetener
> and loads of it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dBnniua6-oM
tin.man

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Pepsi uses artificial sweeteners which, in me, produce an almost instant
throbbing headache of the near migraine quality.. I won't touch it.

All "Diet cola" regardless of brand rely on the use of artificial sweetener
and loads of it. The health side effects of ingesting artificial sweetener
are manifold, by every report I read.. bad bad ju ju... poison stuff that
throws the body way off balance..

As my Grandmother [mother of 12 children] always said.. "You are what you
eat".
Read the labels on the stuff being sold as food these days and ask .. "Do I
want to be this?"

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>
> Interesting that people mention Pepsi by name.
> I can drink 1000 calories of Dr Pepper a day with no ill effects aside
> from weight gain, but if I drink a 12pk of Pepsi in a week my GERD comes
> back every time.
> No meaningful advice for Andrew, if Nexium won't solve it, it's beyond my
> experience.
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Interesting that people mention Pepsi by name. 
I can drink 1000 calories of Dr Pepper a day with no ill effects aside from 
weight gain, but if I drink a 12pk of Pepsi in a week my GERD comes back every 
time. 
No meaningful advice for Andrew, if Nexium won't solve it, it's beyond my 
experience. 

Mitch.

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Re: [MBZ] GERD for dummies

[Curley McLain via Mercedes]

Its whatcha get for eating jelly made from plants grown in el merde de gato!


Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes 
October 13, 2017 at 2:20 PM
Seems like this group comprises all the major ailments, which offers me
hope for an answer to the question I am about to pose.

Several years back I developed a gastrointestinal reflux issue (GERD) that
only manifests itself when I am asleep. I typically awake thirsty around
4 AM because my mouth dries out (mouth breather), and when I take a sip of
water that immediately detonates the GERD depth charger. I get this queasy
feeling that keeps me from going back to sleep.

I've also tried a Tums at bed time, with very limited success, as well as
ginger pills and Nexium-and Prevacid type drugs. The latter only makes
things worse. Oddly, I never have any symptoms when awake during the day,
and the symptoms are almost exclusively triggered when I take that 4AM sip
of water. Ideally, I wuld like to take a pill at bedtime to get me through
this nasty ritual.

Anyone else BTDT?

A jar of artisanal jalapeno pepper jelly to whoever solves this 
problem for

me.

Andrew
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Re: [MBZ] GERD for dummies

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Andrew Strasfogel wrote:   Seems like this group comprises all the major 
ailments, which offers me hope for an answer to the question I am about to pose.
> 
> Several years back I developed a gastrointestinal reflux issue (GERD) that
> only manifests itself when I am asleep.  I typically awake thirsty  around
> 4 AM because my mouth dries out (mouth breather), and when I take a sip of
> water that immediately detonates the GERD depth charger.  I get this queasy
> feeling that keeps me from going back to sleep.
> 
> I've also tried a Tums at bed time, with very limited success, as well as
> ginger pills and Nexium-and Prevacid type drugs.  The latter only makes
> things worse.  Oddly, I never have any symptoms when awake during the day,
> and the symptoms are almost exclusively triggered when I take that 4AM sip
> of water.  Ideally, I wuld like to take a pill at bedtime to get me through
> this nasty ritual.
> 
> Anyone else BTDT?
~


The first thing I would do would be to make an appt with a gastroenterologist 
since the symptoms seem strange. A heliobacter pylori infection, which can 
cause gerd, can also cause stomach cancer.

https://www.google.com/search?client=opera=bacterium+that+causes+gerd=opera=UTF-8=UTF-8
 
If the doctor prescribed Nexium or Prevacid or similar drugs, I would ask for a 
ranitidine 150 mg prescription since it doesn't have the most serious side 
effects of the others.

That's what I would do. I'm not suggesting that you do the same, however, since 
"practicing medicine without a license" could cost me my lab rat licence and I 
might need it again if the government guts social security any more than they 
have already by eliminating COLA.
Good luck,
Gerry

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[Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes]

My wife takes a pill for that I believe.

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> On Oct 13, 2017, at 2:20 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Seems like this group comprises all the major ailments, which offers me
> hope for an answer to the question I am about to pose.
> 
> Several years back I developed a gastrointestinal reflux issue (GERD) that
> only manifests itself when I am asleep.  I typically awake thirsty  around
> 4 AM because my mouth dries out (mouth breather), and when I take a sip of
> water that immediately detonates the GERD depth charger.  I get this queasy
> feeling that keeps me from going back to sleep.
> 
> I've also tried a Tums at bed time, with very limited success, as well as
> ginger pills and Nexium-and Prevacid type drugs.  The latter only makes
> things worse.  Oddly, I never have any symptoms when awake during the day,
> and the symptoms are almost exclusively triggered when I take that 4AM sip
> of water.  Ideally, I wuld like to take a pill at bedtime to get me through
> this nasty ritual.
> 
> Anyone else BTDT?
> 
> A jar of artisanal jalapeno pepper jelly to whoever solves this problem for
> me.
> 
> Andrew
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Re: [MBZ] GERD for dummies

[Rick Knoble via Mercedes]

Andrew sez:

>‎Protonix scares me due to alleged side >effects.

I used to take it a few times a week. 
I quit drinking Pepsi, and eating pizza. Problem cured. No more need for 
Protonics. 

I still drink a Pepsi, and have pizza, just once a month or two, not every week 
or every day.

Rick
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Protonix scares me due to alleged side effects.

On Fri, Oct 13, 2017 at 9:20 PM, Bob Rentfro via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> Protonix and sleeping on your left side helps.
> Deal with it before it manifests in Barrett’s Esophagus. BTDT.
>
> Bob R
>
> Sent from my iPhone
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> > On Oct 13, 2017, at 1:56 PM, Rick Knoble via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> > Stop drinking Pepsi. Stop drinking alcoholic beverages. Stop taking
> muscle relaxers for muscle spasms.
> >
> > Or get a prescription for Protonics.
> >
> > You're welcome.
> >
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[Bob Rentfro via Mercedes]

Protonix and sleeping on your left side helps. 
Deal with it before it manifests in Barrett’s Esophagus. BTDT. 

Bob R

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> On Oct 13, 2017, at 1:56 PM, Rick Knoble via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> Stop drinking Pepsi. Stop drinking alcoholic beverages. Stop taking muscle 
> relaxers for muscle spasms. 
> 
> Or get a prescription for Protonics.
> 
> You're welcome.
> 
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[Rick Knoble via Mercedes]

Stop drinking Pepsi. Stop drinking alcoholic beverages. Stop taking muscle 
relaxers for muscle spasms. 

Or get a prescription for Protonics.

You're welcome.

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[Curt Raymond via Mercedes]

Try a little shot of apple cider vinegar morning and night. Supposed to help 
balance your stomach acid.
ACV is kinda magic, good for burns too.
Curt

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  On Fri, Oct 13, 2017 at 3:20 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via 
Mercedes wrote:   Seems like this group comprises all 
the major ailments, which offers me
hope for an answer to the question I am about to pose.

Several years back I developed a gastrointestinal reflux issue (GERD) that
only manifests itself when I am asleep.  I typically awake thirsty  around
4 AM because my mouth dries out (mouth breather), and when I take a sip of
water that immediately detonates the GERD depth charger.  I get this queasy
feeling that keeps me from going back to sleep.

I've also tried a Tums at bed time, with very limited success, as well as
ginger pills and Nexium-and Prevacid type drugs.  The latter only makes
things worse.  Oddly, I never have any symptoms when awake during the day,
and the symptoms are almost exclusively triggered when I take that 4AM sip
of water.  Ideally, I wuld like to take a pill at bedtime to get me through
this nasty ritual.

Anyone else BTDT?

A jar of artisanal jalapeno pepper jelly to whoever solves this problem for
me.

Andrew
1983 300TD  whiet/blue 361k miles
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[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

Ha - will try.  If this is successful, you might need a bigger mail box.

On Fri, Oct 13, 2017 at 4:12 PM, G Mann via Mercedes 
wrote:

> Have you ever tried simply doing a mouth rinse with cool water?
> Rather than swallow the water, take a sip, rinse and squish, then spit it
> out, to cure the "dry mouth" issue..
>
> Just a thought.
>
> Organic apple cider, 2 tea spoons
> Baking soda, 1/2 tea spoon
> 8 oz water.
>
> Put baking soda in glass, add Organic apple cider, it will "fizz", while it
> is doing that, add the water, stir well ,, add ice cubes to chill gives a
> nice crisp touch to the mixture... sip ...
>
> Let me know how it works for you.
>
> On Fri, Oct 13, 2017 at 1:02 PM, Mountain Man via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>
> > Andrew wrote:
> > > Seems like this group comprises all the major ailments, which offers me
> > > hope for an answer to the question I am about to pose.
> >
> > Stay away from pharma.  Try a glass of water with a splash of
> > apple-cider vinegar, i.e. Braggs vinegar with mothers, mostly water as
> > strong as you can swallow?  Drink a cup of unflavored whole milk
> > kefir?  Eat a serving of unflavored whole milk yogurt, i.e. Fage
> > Total.  Try garlic oil pills prior to bed - about 10, so you burp
> > garlic - not de-odorized but NowFoods 1500mg.  Maybe these don't apply
> > to GERD but these are my routines for digestion.
> > tin.man
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[G Mann via Mercedes]

Have you ever tried simply doing a mouth rinse with cool water?
Rather than swallow the water, take a sip, rinse and squish, then spit it
out, to cure the "dry mouth" issue..

Just a thought.

Organic apple cider, 2 tea spoons
Baking soda, 1/2 tea spoon
8 oz water.

Put baking soda in glass, add Organic apple cider, it will "fizz", while it
is doing that, add the water, stir well ,, add ice cubes to chill gives a
nice crisp touch to the mixture... sip ...

Let me know how it works for you.

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mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> Andrew wrote:
> > Seems like this group comprises all the major ailments, which offers me
> > hope for an answer to the question I am about to pose.
>
> Stay away from pharma.  Try a glass of water with a splash of
> apple-cider vinegar, i.e. Braggs vinegar with mothers, mostly water as
> strong as you can swallow?  Drink a cup of unflavored whole milk
> kefir?  Eat a serving of unflavored whole milk yogurt, i.e. Fage
> Total.  Try garlic oil pills prior to bed - about 10, so you burp
> garlic - not de-odorized but NowFoods 1500mg.  Maybe these don't apply
> to GERD but these are my routines for digestion.
> tin.man
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Re: [MBZ] GERD for dummies

[Mountain Man via Mercedes]

Andrew wrote:
> Seems like this group comprises all the major ailments, which offers me
> hope for an answer to the question I am about to pose.

Stay away from pharma.  Try a glass of water with a splash of
apple-cider vinegar, i.e. Braggs vinegar with mothers, mostly water as
strong as you can swallow?  Drink a cup of unflavored whole milk
kefir?  Eat a serving of unflavored whole milk yogurt, i.e. Fage
Total.  Try garlic oil pills prior to bed - about 10, so you burp
garlic - not de-odorized but NowFoods 1500mg.  Maybe these don't apply
to GERD but these are my routines for digestion.
tin.man

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[MBZ] GERD for dummies

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

Seems like this group comprises all the major ailments, which offers me
hope for an answer to the question I am about to pose.

Several years back I developed a gastrointestinal reflux issue (GERD) that
only manifests itself when I am asleep.  I typically awake thirsty  around
4 AM because my mouth dries out (mouth breather), and when I take a sip of
water that immediately detonates the GERD depth charger.  I get this queasy
feeling that keeps me from going back to sleep.

I've also tried a Tums at bed time, with very limited success, as well as
ginger pills and Nexium-and Prevacid type drugs.  The latter only makes
things worse.  Oddly, I never have any symptoms when awake during the day,
and the symptoms are almost exclusively triggered when I take that 4AM sip
of water.  Ideally, I wuld like to take a pill at bedtime to get me through
this nasty ritual.

Anyone else BTDT?

A jar of artisanal jalapeno pepper jelly to whoever solves this problem for
me.

Andrew
1983 300TD  whiet/blue 361k miles
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