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Re: [MBZ] Genuine MB Monovalve Inserts!!

2016-12-16 Thread MG via Mercedes

Shhh! Andrew doesn't know that and we want him to take his poor 
5k mile per year car out for a good spin to clean out the engine.

Manfred

Date: Thu, 15 Dec 2016 17:05:47 -0500
From: Jon Agne 

I?m guessing that there is a small tear in the monovalve diaphragm.  Ask me how 
I know?  :-)

Jon

On Dec 14, 2016, at 7:28 PM, MG via Mercedes  wrote:

Sounds like you will have to come to the MiniQ to get a diagnosis. It could be 
a few different things that are hard to see from here.

Manfred

Date: Tue, 13 Dec 2016 22:54:57 -0500
From: Andrew Strasfogel 
My 1983 300TD has intermittent heat.  Thermostat is good - car runs at
normal operating temps.  Car gets VERY cold when cruising on the highway -
heat simply quits the faster I drive.  Around town, the heat works for
awhile and is sensitive to the temp. wheel on the ACC module, but is not
dependable.  Does this sound like a monovalve problem?

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Re: [MBZ] Genuine MB Monovalve Inserts!!

2016-12-15 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes

Regrettably, I will be heading north for the weekend.

On Thu, Dec 15, 2016 at 11:55 PM, Curley McLain via Mercedes <
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> Andrew, Are you going to drive down for the Q and free diagnosis of your
> heating?  Who knows, we might even help you wax it and clean the Bundts.
>
> MG via Mercedes 
>> December 15, 2016 at 12:43 AM
>> Probably not getting power. Check the fuses. If any are corroded put in
>> new copper or brass fuses.
>>
>> Manfred
>>
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Re: [MBZ] Genuine MB Monovalve Inserts!!

2016-12-15 Thread Curley McLain via Mercedes

Andrew, Are you going to drive down for the Q and free diagnosis of your 
heating?  Who knows, we might even help you wax it and clean the Bundts.



MG via Mercedes 
December 15, 2016 at 12:43 AM
Probably not getting power. Check the fuses. If any are corroded put 
in new copper or brass fuses.


Manfred


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Re: [MBZ] Genuine MB Monovalve Inserts!!

2016-12-15 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes

Huh? Where is it? What's the deal?

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> On Dec 15, 2016, at 4:04 PM, Jon Agne via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> Oh Curley, I know that.  I was just razzin.  My apologies.  In fact I have my 
> eyes on a 240D right now: Caledonia Green
> 
> Jon
> 
> 
> 
>> On Dec 14, 2016, at 5:54 PM, Curley McLain via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> The original comment was not about Jon or his particular car.  It is a 
>> general thing.  A 240D 3.0 like Craig's to me is 3 times more preferable 
>> than a 300D, just because of the hassle of the constantly breaking ACC.  ACC 
>> II was a complete disaster (Crypsler), but accIII is THE MOST FAILURE PRONE 
>> SYSTEM on the cars it is installed on.  The rest of the the world could 
>> order it IF THEY WISH as an option.  MomBUSA  forced it on the US/NA market. 
>>  NO CHOICE (except the 240D)
>> 
>>> Dimitri via Mercedes 
>>> December 14, 2016 at 4:36 PM
>>> Exactly!!
>>> 
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Re: [MBZ] Genuine MB Monovalve Inserts!!

2016-12-15 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes

Would appreciate a link to Caledonia Green.

On Thu, Dec 15, 2016 at 5:05 PM, Jon Agne via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> I’m guessing that there is a small tear in the monovalve diaphragm.  Ask
> me how I know?  :-)
>
> Jon
>
>
> > On Dec 14, 2016, at 7:28 PM, MG via Mercedes 
> wrote:
> >
> > Sounds like you will have to come to the MiniQ to get a diagnosis. It
> could be a few different things that are hard to see from here.
> >
> > Manfred
> >
> >> Date: Tue, 13 Dec 2016 22:54:57 -0500
> >> From: Andrew Strasfogel 
> >
> >> My 1983 300TD has intermittent heat.  Thermostat is good - car runs at
> >> normal operating temps.  Car gets VERY cold when cruising on the
> highway -
> >> heat simply quits the faster I drive.  Around town, the heat works for
> >> awhile and is sensitive to the temp. wheel on the ACC module, but is not
> >> dependable.  Does this sound like a monovalve problem?
> >
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Re: [MBZ] Genuine MB Monovalve Inserts!!

2016-12-15 Thread Jon Agne via Mercedes

I’m guessing that there is a small tear in the monovalve diaphragm.  Ask me how 
I know?  :-)

Jon


> On Dec 14, 2016, at 7:28 PM, MG via Mercedes  wrote:
> 
> Sounds like you will have to come to the MiniQ to get a diagnosis. It could 
> be a few different things that are hard to see from here.
> 
> Manfred
> 
>> Date: Tue, 13 Dec 2016 22:54:57 -0500
>> From: Andrew Strasfogel 
> 
>> My 1983 300TD has intermittent heat.  Thermostat is good - car runs at
>> normal operating temps.  Car gets VERY cold when cruising on the highway -
>> heat simply quits the faster I drive.  Around town, the heat works for
>> awhile and is sensitive to the temp. wheel on the ACC module, but is not
>> dependable.  Does this sound like a monovalve problem?
> 
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Re: [MBZ] Genuine MB Monovalve Inserts!!

2016-12-15 Thread Jon Agne via Mercedes

Oh Curley, I know that.  I was just razzin.  My apologies.  In fact I have my 
eyes on a 240D right now: Caledonia Green

Jon



> On Dec 14, 2016, at 5:54 PM, Curley McLain via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> The original comment was not about Jon or his particular car.  It is a 
> general thing.  A 240D 3.0 like Craig's to me is 3 times more preferable than 
> a 300D, just because of the hassle of the constantly breaking ACC.  ACC II 
> was a complete disaster (Crypsler), but accIII is THE MOST FAILURE PRONE 
> SYSTEM on the cars it is installed on.  The rest of the the world could order 
> it IF THEY WISH as an option.  MomBUSA  forced it on the US/NA market.  NO 
> CHOICE (except the 240D)
> 
>> Dimitri via Mercedes 
>> December 14, 2016 at 4:36 PM
>> Exactly!!
>> 
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Re: [MBZ] Genuine MB Monovalve Inserts!!

2016-12-14 Thread MG via Mercedes

Probably not getting power. Check the fuses. If any are corroded 
put in new copper or brass fuses.

Manfred

Date: Wed, 14 Dec 2016 05:20:48 + (UTC)
From: roger...@comcast.net

While on the subject of monovalves, my 83 300D has a problem of 
all heat all the time. I replaced the insert, but didn't seem to 
cure the problem. Could it be a bad vac module somewhere, bad 
PBU, or what? Suggestions, advice, etc. I"ve been tempted to just 
clamp the hose, but that's not a real solution.

Thanks,
Roger

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Re: [MBZ] Genuine MB Monovalve Inserts!!

2016-12-14 Thread MG via Mercedes

Sounds like you will have to come to the MiniQ to get a 
diagnosis. It could be a few different things that are hard to 
see from here.

Manfred

Date: Tue, 13 Dec 2016 22:54:57 -0500
From: Andrew Strasfogel 

My 1983 300TD has intermittent heat.  Thermostat is good - car runs at
normal operating temps.  Car gets VERY cold when cruising on the highway -
heat simply quits the faster I drive.  Around town, the heat works for
awhile and is sensitive to the temp. wheel on the ACC module, but is not
dependable.  Does this sound like a monovalve problem?

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Re: [MBZ] Genuine MB Monovalve Inserts!!

2016-12-14 Thread Curley McLain via Mercedes

The original comment was not about Jon or his particular car.  It is a 
general thing.  A 240D 3.0 like Craig's to me is 3 times more preferable 
than a 300D, just because of the hassle of the constantly breaking ACC.  
ACC II was a complete disaster (Crypsler), but accIII is THE MOST 
FAILURE PRONE SYSTEM on the cars it is installed on.  The rest of the 
the world could order it IF THEY WISH as an option.  MomBUSA  forced it 
on the US/NA market.  NO CHOICE (except the 240D)



Dimitri via Mercedes 
December 14, 2016 at 4:36 PM
Exactly!!



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Re: [MBZ] Genuine MB Monovalve Inserts!!

2016-12-14 Thread Dimitri via Mercedes

Exactly!!

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> On Dec 14, 2016, at 12:25 PM, Curley McLain via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Or buy a 240D with real heater valves and have NONE of this ACC BS.
> 
>> Jon Agne via Mercedes 
>> December 14, 2016 at 9:59 AM
>> What one need to understand about these climate control systems is that each 
>> part of it is interdependent upon the other parts. For instance, if your 
>> temp sensor (under that little square grill on the dash) is inop, your 
>> monovalve or AC will not know what to do. Ditto for the foam rubber tube 
>> that draws air from that little square grill over the temp sensor. That tube 
>> is almost always in the process of disintegration no matter how well the car 
>> has been kept. It;s function of age. Replacement of the tube can be had from 
>> Home Depot for under $2.00. Buy the small diameter pipe insulation for 
>> copper pipe, cut it to length and tape up the slit. The temp sensor is 
>> available, and I don’t remember it being that expensive.
>> 
>> Another source for error is the actual control head for the system. If there 
>> is any corrosion on the wheel, it will definitely have an effect on the 
>> operation of the system. Take it out and check it over. While you’re in 
>> there, it’s a good time to replace the light bulbs.
>> 
>> Another piece of the system is the aux pump. Again, DO NOT buy the MTC 
>> version. It is crap. The pump housing has a habit of coming loose from the 
>> motor section. This allows coolant to spray directly into the alternator 
>> which will potentially give you multiple electrical problem and leave you 
>> scratching your head until you track it down.
>> 
>> Hope this helps.
>> 
>> Jon
>> 
>> 
>> 
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>> December 13, 2016 at 11:44 PM
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>> 
>> Classic.
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>> Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes 
>> December 13, 2016 at 9:54 PM
>> My 1983 300TD has intermittent heat. Thermostat is good - car runs at
>> normal operating temps. Car gets VERY cold when cruising on the highway -
>> heat simply quits the faster I drive. Around town, the heat works for
>> awhile and is sensitive to the temp. wheel on the ACC module, but is not
>> dependable. Does this sound like a monovalve problem?
>> 
>> On Tue, Dec 13, 2016 at 7:36 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes <
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>> Dan Penoff via Mercedes 
>> December 13, 2016 at 6:36 PM
>> Mercedes is making and selling them once again. A whopping $50 from the 
>> dealer! Part number 000 835 06 44.
>> 
>> http://www.benzworld.org/forums/w126-s-se-sec-sel-sd/2740242-genuine-mb-monovalve-repair-insert-under-2.html#post15310786
>> 
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Re: [MBZ] Genuine MB Monovalve Inserts!!

2016-12-14 Thread Jon Agne via Mercedes

Yep.  Get rid of a perfectly good ’85 300D with 90k and no rust just so I don’t 
have buy $220 in parts.


> On Dec 14, 2016, at 12:25 PM, Curley McLain via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Or buy a 240D with real heater valves and have NONE of this ACC BS.
> 
>> Jon Agne via Mercedes 
>> December 14, 2016 at 9:59 AM
>> What one need to understand about these climate control systems is that each 
>> part of it is interdependent upon the other parts. For instance, if your 
>> temp sensor (under that little square grill on the dash) is inop, your 
>> monovalve or AC will not know what to do. Ditto for the foam rubber tube 
>> that draws air from that little square grill over the temp sensor. That tube 
>> is almost always in the process of disintegration no matter how well the car 
>> has been kept. It;s function of age. Replacement of the tube can be had from 
>> Home Depot for under $2.00. Buy the small diameter pipe insulation for 
>> copper pipe, cut it to length and tape up the slit. The temp sensor is 
>> available, and I don’t remember it being that expensive.
>> 
>> Another source for error is the actual control head for the system. If there 
>> is any corrosion on the wheel, it will definitely have an effect on the 
>> operation of the system. Take it out and check it over. While you’re in 
>> there, it’s a good time to replace the light bulbs.
>> 
>> Another piece of the system is the aux pump. Again, DO NOT buy the MTC 
>> version. It is crap. The pump housing has a habit of coming loose from the 
>> motor section. This allows coolant to spray directly into the alternator 
>> which will potentially give you multiple electrical problem and leave you 
>> scratching your head until you track it down.
>> 
>> Hope this helps.
>> 
>> Jon
>> 
>> 
>> 
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>> December 13, 2016 at 11:44 PM
>> 
>> 
>> Classic.
>> 
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>> Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes 
>> December 13, 2016 at 9:54 PM
>> My 1983 300TD has intermittent heat. Thermostat is good - car runs at
>> normal operating temps. Car gets VERY cold when cruising on the highway -
>> heat simply quits the faster I drive. Around town, the heat works for
>> awhile and is sensitive to the temp. wheel on the ACC module, but is not
>> dependable. Does this sound like a monovalve problem?
>> 
>> On Tue, Dec 13, 2016 at 7:36 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes <
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>> Dan Penoff via Mercedes 
>> December 13, 2016 at 6:36 PM
>> Mercedes is making and selling them once again. A whopping $50 from the 
>> dealer! Part number 000 835 06 44.
>> 
>> http://www.benzworld.org/forums/w126-s-se-sec-sel-sd/2740242-genuine-mb-monovalve-repair-insert-under-2.html#post15310786
>> 
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Re: [MBZ] Genuine MB Monovalve Inserts!!

2016-12-14 Thread Dan--- via Mercedes

Standard part in Paragon (internal MB system) that can be ordered from any 
dealer.

Dan

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Re: [MBZ] Genuine MB Monovalve Inserts!!

2016-12-14 Thread Curley McLain via Mercedes

Or buy a 240D with real heater valves and have NONE of this ACC BS.

Jon Agne via Mercedes
December 14, 2016 at 9:59 AM
What one need to understand about these climate control systems is
that each part of it is interdependent upon the other parts. For
instance, if your temp sensor (under that little square grill on the
dash) is inop, your monovalve or AC will not know what to do. Ditto
for the foam rubber tube that draws air from that little square grill
over the temp sensor. That tube is almost always in the process of
disintegration no matter how well the car has been kept. It;s function
of age. Replacement of the tube can be had from Home Depot for under
$2.00. Buy the small diameter pipe insulation for copper pipe, cut it
to length and tape up the slit. The temp sensor is available, and I
don’t remember it being that expensive.

Another source for error is the actual control head for the system. If
there is any corrosion on the wheel, it will definitely have an effect
on the operation of the system. Take it out and check it over. While
you’re in there, it’s a good time to replace the light bulbs.

Another piece of the system is the aux pump. Again, DO NOT buy the MTC
version. It is crap. The pump housing has a habit of coming loose from
the motor section. This allows coolant to spray directly into the
alternator which will potentially give you multiple electrical problem
and leave you scratching your head until you track it down.

Hope this helps.

Jon

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