Re: [MBZ] Getting Back Into the Klatta Klatta Fold
I went through this recently with my '78 240D except I had keys for both. My car had a junkyard ignition with one key and VIN doors/trunk with another. I pulled the ignition and reworked it so it matches the doors/trunk. After only 2 years under my ownership its finally keyed right. ;) -Curt Date: Mon, 1 Oct 2012 14:56:51 -0600 From: Craig diese...@pisquared.net To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] Getting Back Into the Klatta Klatta Fold Message-ID: 20121001145651.15160d4a2c6ce11953453...@pisquared.net Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII On Mon, 1 Oct 2012 13:15:08 -0500 Kaleb C. Striplin ka...@striplin.net wrote: Just order a new cylinder from rusty will have a new key alao Yes, order it by VIN and order a master key by VIN, too. That way you'll be able to get in the trunk and use one key as MB intended. Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Getting Back Into the Klatta Klatta Fold
It's time. Going buy that 1980 240D beater. http://phoenix.craigslist.org/evl/cto/3296637189.html So, I will be asking youz guyz what kind of stuff you got laying around I need. Like a shifter boot, and a drivers door interior handle (not exactly sure how that is broken yet), correct radio, first aid kit, etc. The list will grow. Reckon I'll be renewing my acquaintance with the boneyard guy. Also, this PO clown lost the key but didn't replace it by getting a new key using the VIN he just got a new ignition and a new key. As a result, can't lock the doors or, more importantly, get into the trunk. What is the best/cheapest way to rectify that? I guess I will ask him if he has the old ignition and I could get the correct key and reinstall the old ignition...any ideas? Bob R ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Getting Back Into the Klatta Klatta Fold
I have a mid 80's becker radio clay 1974 450sl - Frosch - Two tone green 1972 220D - Gump - She is green, simple and ran 1995 E300D - Cleo - Used by the Queen of Denial POS 1987 SDL - Beware Nigerian Scammers On Oct 1, 2012, at 11:04 AM, Bob Rentfro wrote: It's time. Going buy that 1980 240D beater. http://phoenix.craigslist.org/evl/cto/3296637189.html So, I will be asking youz guyz what kind of stuff you got laying around I need. Like a shifter boot, and a drivers door interior handle (not exactly sure how that is broken yet), correct radio, first aid kit, etc. The list will grow. Reckon I'll be renewing my acquaintance with the boneyard guy. Also, this PO clown lost the key but didn't replace it by getting a new key using the VIN he just got a new ignition and a new key. As a result, can't lock the doors or, more importantly, get into the trunk. What is the best/cheapest way to rectify that? I guess I will ask him if he has the old ignition and I could get the correct key and reinstall the old ignition...any ideas? Bob R ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Getting Back Into the Klatta Klatta Fold
Just order a new cylinder from rusty will have a new key alao Sent from my iPhone On Oct 1, 2012, at 1:04 PM, Bob Rentfro azbob...@gmail.com wrote: It's time. Going buy that 1980 240D beater. http://phoenix.craigslist.org/evl/cto/3296637189.html So, I will be asking youz guyz what kind of stuff you got laying around I need. Like a shifter boot, and a drivers door interior handle (not exactly sure how that is broken yet), correct radio, first aid kit, etc. The list will grow. Reckon I'll be renewing my acquaintance with the boneyard guy. Also, this PO clown lost the key but didn't replace it by getting a new key using the VIN he just got a new ignition and a new key. As a result, can't lock the doors or, more importantly, get into the trunk. What is the best/cheapest way to rectify that? I guess I will ask him if he has the old ignition and I could get the correct key and reinstall the old ignition...any ideas? Bob R ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Getting Back Into the Klatta Klatta Fold
sweet. Let me ask the PO if he happens to have the correct one. If he doesn't, I'll probably want that. What do you need for it? Vie viel? Bob R On Mon, Oct 1, 2012 at 11:14 AM, clay monroe redgh...@comcast.net wrote: I have a mid 80's becker radio clay 1974 450sl - Frosch - Two tone green 1972 220D - Gump - She is green, simple and ran 1995 E300D - Cleo - Used by the Queen of Denial POS 1987 SDL - Beware Nigerian Scammers On Oct 1, 2012, at 11:04 AM, Bob Rentfro wrote: It's time. Going buy that 1980 240D beater. http://phoenix.craigslist.org/evl/cto/3296637189.html So, I will be asking youz guyz what kind of stuff you got laying around I need. Like a shifter boot, and a drivers door interior handle (not exactly sure how that is broken yet), correct radio, first aid kit, etc. The list will grow. Reckon I'll be renewing my acquaintance with the boneyard guy. Also, this PO clown lost the key but didn't replace it by getting a new key using the VIN he just got a new ignition and a new key. As a result, can't lock the doors or, more importantly, get into the trunk. What is the best/cheapest way to rectify that? I guess I will ask him if he has the old ignition and I could get the correct key and reinstall the old ignition...any ideas? Bob R ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Getting Back Into the Klatta Klatta Fold
make an offer. I need it gone, but cash is good too. clay On Oct 1, 2012, at 11:16 AM, Bob Rentfro wrote: sweet. Let me ask the PO if he happens to have the correct one. If he doesn't, I'll probably want that. What do you need for it? Vie viel? Bob R On Mon, Oct 1, 2012 at 11:14 AM, clay monroe redgh...@comcast.net wrote: I have a mid 80's becker radio clay 1974 450sl - Frosch - Two tone green 1972 220D - Gump - She is green, simple and ran 1995 E300D - Cleo - Used by the Queen of Denial POS 1987 SDL - Beware Nigerian Scammers On Oct 1, 2012, at 11:04 AM, Bob Rentfro wrote: It's time. Going buy that 1980 240D beater. http://phoenix.craigslist.org/evl/cto/3296637189.html So, I will be asking youz guyz what kind of stuff you got laying around I need. Like a shifter boot, and a drivers door interior handle (not exactly sure how that is broken yet), correct radio, first aid kit, etc. The list will grow. Reckon I'll be renewing my acquaintance with the boneyard guy. Also, this PO clown lost the key but didn't replace it by getting a new key using the VIN he just got a new ignition and a new key. As a result, can't lock the doors or, more importantly, get into the trunk. What is the best/cheapest way to rectify that? I guess I will ask him if he has the old ignition and I could get the correct key and reinstall the old ignition...any ideas? Bob R ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Getting Back Into the Klatta Klatta Fold
New shifter boots are cheap, no need to find used. Jaime On Mon, Oct 1, 2012 at 2:04 PM, Bob Rentfro azbob...@gmail.com wrote: It's time. Going buy that 1980 240D beater. http://phoenix.craigslist.org/evl/cto/3296637189.html So, I will be asking youz guyz what kind of stuff you got laying around I need. Like a shifter boot, and a drivers door interior handle (not exactly sure how that is broken yet), correct radio, first aid kit, etc. The list will grow. Reckon I'll be renewing my acquaintance with the boneyard guy. Also, this PO clown lost the key but didn't replace it by getting a new key using the VIN he just got a new ignition and a new key. As a result, can't lock the doors or, more importantly, get into the trunk. What is the best/cheapest way to rectify that? I guess I will ask him if he has the old ignition and I could get the correct key and reinstall the old ignition...any ideas? Bob R ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Jaime Kopchinski http://www.jaimekop.com/ ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Getting Back Into the Klatta Klatta Fold
On Mon, 1 Oct 2012 13:15:08 -0500 Kaleb C. Striplin ka...@striplin.net wrote: Just order a new cylinder from rusty will have a new key alao Yes, order it by VIN and order a master key by VIN, too. That way you'll be able to get in the trunk and use one key as MB intended. Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Getting Back Into the Klatta Klatta Fold
I shall. So here is the first two issues on the shakedown cruise back across 105 degree Phoenix (running with out AC on )what temp is normal? My last 123 was a 300D and it ran 85 degrees always. This was up in the 100 area. Secondly, the temp gauge was flicking around alot. up to 100, down to 70 or so (never down to the peg though). What the deal with that? Going to clean her up now and give her the good once over. think I did okay for $800. bob R On Mon, Oct 1, 2012 at 1:56 PM, Craig diese...@pisquared.net wrote: On Mon, 1 Oct 2012 13:15:08 -0500 Kaleb C. Striplin ka...@striplin.net wrote: Just order a new cylinder from rusty will have a new key alao Yes, order it by VIN and order a master key by VIN, too. That way you'll be able to get in the trunk and use one key as MB intended. Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Getting Back Into the Klatta Klatta Fold
Key: you can order just a VIN coded key, which should lock doors and trunk if they have original tumblers, or get a new ignition cylinder which may come with a new key then all will match. First aid kit: buy new, they go stale. -- Max Dillon Charleston SC '95 E300 '87 300TD Bob Rentfro azbob...@gmail.com wrote: It's time. Going buy that 1980 240D beater. http://phoenix.craigslist.org/evl/cto/3296637189.html So, I will be asking youz guyz what kind of stuff you got laying around I need. Like a shifter boot, and a drivers door interior handle (not exactly sure how that is broken yet), correct radio, first aid kit, etc. The list will grow. Reckon I'll be renewing my acquaintance with the boneyard guy. Also, this PO clown lost the key but didn't replace it by getting a new key using the VIN he just got a new ignition and a new key. As a result, can't lock the doors or, more importantly, get into the trunk. What is the best/cheapest way to rectify that? I guess I will ask him if he has the old ignition and I could get the correct key and reinstall the old ignition...any ideas? Bob R ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Getting Back Into the Klatta Klatta Fold
Sounds like a good price, congrats! That temp swing really sounds like a gauge issue, do you have a non-contact thermometer to verify? -- Max Dillon Charleston SC '95 E300 '87 300TD Bob Rentfro azbob...@gmail.com wrote: I shall. So here is the first two issues on the shakedown cruise back across 105 degree Phoenix (running with out AC on )what temp is normal? My last 123 was a 300D and it ran 85 degrees always. This was up in the 100 area. Secondly, the temp gauge was flicking around alot. up to 100, down to 70 or so (never down to the peg though). What the deal with that? Going to clean her up now and give her the good once over. think I did okay for $800. bob R On Mon, Oct 1, 2012 at 1:56 PM, Craig diese...@pisquared.net wrote: On Mon, 1 Oct 2012 13:15:08 -0500 Kaleb C. Striplin ka...@striplin.net wrote: Just order a new cylinder from rusty will have a new key alao Yes, order it by VIN and order a master key by VIN, too. That way you'll be able to get in the trunk and use one key as MB intended. Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Getting Back Into the Klatta Klatta Fold
That means the gauge is faulty... you can try cleaning it with some contact cleaner if you take apart the instrument cluster. If you hit the dashboard, you may find it will also jump around. If thats the case, 100 isn't really an issue 70 is probably more likely as the actual temp of the engine. I've only seen this go high, never low, when needing cleaning. Normal its what you're used to, 80-95 or so. If you're seeing 70 after running a while, you probably has a stuck thermostat, which isn't too uncommon. Good luck with your $800 ride! Some of the most enjoyable cars I've owned were less than $1000. Theres something about the idea that the car owes you nothing. Anything it does right is positive return on the investment. Jaime On Mon, Oct 1, 2012 at 6:38 PM, Bob Rentfro azbob...@gmail.com wrote: I shall. So here is the first two issues on the shakedown cruise back across 105 degree Phoenix (running with out AC on )what temp is normal? My last 123 was a 300D and it ran 85 degrees always. This was up in the 100 area. Secondly, the temp gauge was flicking around alot. up to 100, down to 70 or so (never down to the peg though). What the deal with that? Going to clean her up now and give her the good once over. think I did okay for $800. bob R On Mon, Oct 1, 2012 at 1:56 PM, Craig diese...@pisquared.net wrote: On Mon, 1 Oct 2012 13:15:08 -0500 Kaleb C. Striplin ka...@striplin.net wrote: Just order a new cylinder from rusty will have a new key alao Yes, order it by VIN and order a master key by VIN, too. That way you'll be able to get in the trunk and use one key as MB intended. Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Jaime Kopchinski http://www.jaimekop.com/ ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Getting Back Into the Klatta Klatta Fold
On Mon, 1 Oct 2012 15:38:38 -0700 Bob Rentfro azbob...@gmail.com wrote: I shall. So here is the first two issues on the shakedown cruise back across 105 degree Phoenix (running with out AC on )what temp is normal? My last 123 was a 300D and it ran 85 degrees always. This was up in the 100 area. I would say with 105 deg.F. ambient 90 - 100 deg.C. coolant temperature is normal, depending upon how fast you are driving and the road grade. Secondly, the temp gauge was flicking around alot. up to 100, down to 70 or so (never down to the peg though). What the deal with that? That's due to a bad instrument ground. With the instrument cluster out, in front of where it normally sits and toward the center of the vehicle you will see a bunch of brown wires with ring lugs on their ends and a bolt holding them all to a piece of the metal frame. Cleaning these lugs (and using a contact cleaner) will solve the problem. The bolt holding the lugs is much easier to get to with the dash out, but that's much too much work to do to fix a bouncing temperature gauge. One cheesy way to solve the problem is to run a new wire from the ground on the instrument cluster to the engine block. Going to clean her up now and give her the good once over. think I did okay for $800. Sounds like it. Does the AC work at all? Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Getting Back Into the Klatta Klatta Fold
Like Craig said check the ground for the cluster. I had the same problem on SWMBO's 240D when I got it. Do a Citric Acid flush and use the MB recommended Coolant. I have a spare cluster if you need a gauge. Let me know what part of the door handle you need. I also have a manual tranny shifter boot and radio if you want it. Call Rusty and order a new ignition cyl. It comes with a key also he can get you the Valet key. Russ W On 10/1/2012 17:38, Bob Rentfro wrote: I shall. So here is the first two issues on the shakedown cruise back across 105 degree Phoenix (running with out AC on )what temp is normal? My last 123 was a 300D and it ran 85 degrees always. This was up in the 100 area. Secondly, the temp gauge was flicking around alot. up to 100, down to 70 or so (never down to the peg though). What the deal with that? Going to clean her up now and give her the good once over. think I did okay for $800. bob R On Mon, Oct 1, 2012 at 1:56 PM, Craig diese...@pisquared.net wrote: On Mon, 1 Oct 2012 13:15:08 -0500 Kaleb C. Striplin ka...@striplin.net wrote: Just order a new cylinder from rusty will have a new key alao Yes, order it by VIN and order a master key by VIN, too. That way you'll be able to get in the trunk and use one key as MB intended. Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2012.0.2221 / Virus Database: 2441/5302 - Release Date: 10/01/12 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Getting Back Into the Klatta Klatta Fold
Flickering temp is a bad connection. Could be the connection to the sender, could be the sender itself, could be the gauge, could be the instrument cluster ground. I like to blame the harshest environment first, which would be the sender. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
