[MBZ] glass in the car is thicker than I’ve seen in “normal” cars so may possibly have some bulletproofing

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

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Re: [MBZ] glass cooktop

[RELNGSON]

 ...Someone give me review of ceramic stovetop. Do they last? Are they 
 problem-prone? Does the glass break often? Can they be repaired?
 thx..
 
Which? Glass or ceramic? 

I have a GE black glass cooktop with center downdraft exhaust. Similar to 
Jenn-Air but less expensive and superior in design. Fast heating and has 
warning lights for each element when warm. Requires polish to reduce surface 
scratches and cooked on spills are removed by razor blade. Far easier to keep 
clean that a conventional cooktop with exposed burners. Looks good, too. Not 
exactly cheap.

RLE

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Re: [MBZ] glass

[Bob Rentfro]

Ya know if Fred Flinstone got the glass replaced on his car he'd use
Pilkingstone.

Bob R
On Apr 1, 2011 4:14 PM, WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com wrote:
 Mighty fine-looking/serving replacement windshield in my 91 350SDL is PPG.

 'Doesn't embarrass me at all.

 Wilton

 - Original Message -
 From: relng...@aol.com
 To: mercedes@okiebenz.com
 Sent: Friday, April 01, 2011 6:12 PM
 Subject: Re: [MBZ] glass


 ...So, _is_ Pilkington glass OK?..

 MB has been using Pilkington glass as OE for a long time now. My 2008 has
 all PIlkington. I just read someplace that Pilkington bought Sekurit a
 while
 back.

 My 2001's glass was PPG. Made in France.

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Re: [MBZ] glass

[RELNGSON]

 ...So, _is_ Pilkington glass OK?..
 
MB has been using Pilkington glass as OE for a long time now. My 2008 has 
all PIlkington. I just read someplace that Pilkington bought Sekurit a while 
back.

 My 2001's glass was PPG. Made in France.

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Re: [MBZ] glass

[WILTON]

Mighty fine-looking/serving replacement windshield in my 91 350SDL is PPG. 
'Doesn't embarrass me at all.


Wilton

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Sent: Friday, April 01, 2011 6:12 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] glass



...So, _is_ Pilkington glass OK?..


MB has been using Pilkington glass as OE for a long time now. My 2008 has
all PIlkington. I just read someplace that Pilkington bought Sekurit a 
while

back.

My 2001's glass was PPG. Made in France.

RLE




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Re: [MBZ] glass repair

[RELNGSON]

 (I even lived in Seattle for a couple of years
 pretty close to Clay and yet never noticed one of these parking-lot
 glass medics of which he speaks.)
 
These guys hang out in large parking lots with an EZ-Up tent. I usually see a 
setup in Home Depot's lot at Aurora Village. But not today because it's 
snowing and in the twenties.

But if you have glass coverage insurance, a regular auto glass shop will fix 
the ding and bill your company with no deductible. Your company will pay the 
entire bill (usually around $40) since it's obviously cheaper than replacing 
the glass, even with your deductible. 

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[MBZ] Glass sealant for 300TD window leak

[andrew strasfogel]

I discovered the source of water leaking into the spare tire well in the LR
of my new 1983 300TD wagon: the fixed pane rear quarter glass window is
leaking.  What is a good sealant to use for this application?  It needs to
adhere to glass and rubber, stay pliable, and resist freezing and solar
attack.

Andrew
1983 300TD white/blue
320K miles.
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Re: [MBZ] Glass sealant for 300TD window leak

[Jim Cathey]

I discovered the source of water leaking into the spare tire well in 
the LR

of my new 1983 300TD wagon: the fixed pane rear quarter glass window is
leaking.  What is a good sealant to use for this application?  It 
needs to

adhere to glass and rubber, stay pliable, and resist freezing and solar
attack.


I've always used the runny RTV sold for that purpose.
Or you can remove the window entirely, clean it thoroughly,
and put it back with the right stuff.  (Butyl?)

-- Jim



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Re: [MBZ] Glass sealant for 300TD window leak

[Curt Raymond]

I had that same issue on my wagon. I tried to use RTV on the inside, DON'T do 
that. RTV stinks and I never did get it to seal. Instead get some flowable 
silicone (it'll say windshield leak repair). On the outside peal the rubber 
back from the glass with a plastic putty knife, stick the snout of the tube in 
there and run your bead around the window. I did that on my 240D's windshield, 
held good for 3 years. The old diesel VW guys run a bead of it every year...

-Curt

Date: Tue, 28 Oct 2008 10:24:17 -0400
From: andrew strasfogel [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [MBZ] Glass sealant for 300TD window leak
To: Mercedes Discussion List Mercedes@okiebenz.com
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Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1

I discovered the source of water leaking into the spare tire well in the LR
of my new 1983 300TD wagon: the fixed pane rear quarter glass window is
leaking.  What is a good sealant to use for this application?  It needs to
adhere to glass and rubber, stay pliable, and resist freezing and solar
attack.

Andrew
1983 300TD white/blue
320K miles.


  
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Re: [MBZ] Glass sealant for 300TD window leak

[andrew strasfogel]

Where do you buy this stuff?  I didn't see it at the hardware store.  What
about Home Despot?

On Tue, Oct 28, 2008 at 4:22 PM, Curt Raymond [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I had that same issue on my wagon. I tried to use RTV on the inside, DON'T
 do that. RTV stinks and I never did get it to seal. Instead get some
 flowable silicone (it'll say windshield leak repair). On the outside peal
 the rubber back from the glass with a plastic putty knife, stick the snout
 of the tube in there and run your bead around the window. I did that on my
 240D's windshield, held good for 3 years. The old diesel VW guys run a bead
 of it every year...

 -Curt

 Date: Tue, 28 Oct 2008 10:24:17 -0400
 From: andrew strasfogel [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: [MBZ] Glass sealant for 300TD window leak
 To: Mercedes Discussion List Mercedes@okiebenz.com
 Message-ID:
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1

 I discovered the source of water leaking into the spare tire well in the LR
 of my new 1983 300TD wagon: the fixed pane rear quarter glass window is
 leaking.  What is a good sealant to use for this application?  It needs to
 adhere to glass and rubber, stay pliable, and resist freezing and solar
 attack.

 Andrew
 1983 300TD white/blue
 320K miles.



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Re: [MBZ] Glass sealant for 300TD window leak

[Curt Raymond]

My local hardware store has it, look on the rack with the other sealants and 
RTV. Comes in a tube just like RTV that you add a screw on snout to.

-Curt

--- On Tue, 10/28/08, andrew strasfogel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
From: andrew strasfogel [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Glass sealant for 300TD window leak
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
Date: Tuesday, October 28, 2008, 4:26 PM

Where do you buy this stuff?  I didn't see it at the hardware store.  What 
about Home Despot?


On Tue, Oct 28, 2008 at 4:22 PM, Curt Raymond [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

I had that same issue on my wagon. I tried to use RTV on the inside, DON'T do 
that. RTV stinks and I never did get it to seal. Instead get some flowable 
silicone (it'll say windshield leak repair). On the outside peal the rubber 
back from the glass with a plastic putty knife, stick the snout of the tube in 
there and run your bead around the window. I did that on my 240D's windshield, 
held good for 3 years. The old diesel VW guys run a bead of it every year...


-Curt

Date: Tue, 28 Oct 2008 10:24:17 -0400
From: andrew strasfogel [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [MBZ] Glass sealant for 300TD window leak

To: Mercedes Discussion List Mercedes@okiebenz.com
Message-ID:
    [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1


I discovered the source of water leaking into the spare tire well in the LR
of my new 1983 300TD wagon: the fixed pane rear quarter glass window is
leaking.  What is a good sealant to use for this application?  It needs to

adhere to glass and rubber, stay pliable, and resist freezing and solar
attack.


Andrew
1983 300TD white/blue
320K miles.






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Re: [MBZ] Glass sealant for 300TD window leak

[Curt Raymond]

Here's the stuff, 
http://www.midwayautosupply.com/showproduct.aspx?productid=14356affiliateid=10050
maybe try Autozone or the like? Probably not HD...

-Curt

--- On Tue, 10/28/08, andrew strasfogel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
From: andrew strasfogel [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Glass sealant for 300TD window leak
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
Date: Tuesday, October 28, 2008, 4:26 PM

Where do you buy this stuff?  I didn't see it at the hardware store.  What 
about Home Despot?


On Tue, Oct 28, 2008 at 4:22 PM, Curt Raymond [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

I had that same issue on my wagon. I tried to use RTV on the inside, DON'T do 
that. RTV stinks and I never did get it to seal. Instead get some flowable 
silicone (it'll say windshield leak repair). On the outside peal the rubber 
back from the glass with a plastic putty knife, stick the snout of the tube in 
there and run your bead around the window. I did that on my 240D's windshield, 
held good for 3 years. The old diesel VW guys run a bead of it every year...


-Curt

Date: Tue, 28 Oct 2008 10:24:17 -0400
From: andrew strasfogel [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [MBZ] Glass sealant for 300TD window leak

To: Mercedes Discussion List Mercedes@okiebenz.com
Message-ID:
    [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1


I discovered the source of water leaking into the spare tire well in the LR
of my new 1983 300TD wagon: the fixed pane rear quarter glass window is
leaking.  What is a good sealant to use for this application?  It needs to

adhere to glass and rubber, stay pliable, and resist freezing and solar
attack.


Andrew
1983 300TD white/blue
320K miles.






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Re: [MBZ] Glass sealant for 300TD window leak

[Loren Faeth]

Try your NAPA store.  What you want is an automotive specialty 
product.  You don't got to FLAPS to buy nails, why would you want to 
look for auto parts at a home despot?



 youAt 03:26 PM 10/28/2008, you wrote:

Where do you buy this stuff?  I didn't see it at the hardware store.  What
about Home Despot?

On Tue, Oct 28, 2008 at 4:22 PM, Curt Raymond [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I had that same issue on my wagon. I tried to use RTV on the inside, DON'T
 do that. RTV stinks and I never did get it to seal. Instead get some
 flowable silicone (it'll say windshield leak repair). On the outside peal
 the rubber back from the glass with a plastic putty knife, stick the snout
 of the tube in there and run your bead around the window. I did that on my
 240D's windshield, held good for 3 years. The old diesel VW guys run a bead
 of it every year...

 -Curt

 Date: Tue, 28 Oct 2008 10:24:17 -0400
 From: andrew strasfogel [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: [MBZ] Glass sealant for 300TD window leak
 To: Mercedes Discussion List Mercedes@okiebenz.com
 Message-ID:
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1

 I discovered the source of water leaking into the spare tire well in the LR
 of my new 1983 300TD wagon: the fixed pane rear quarter glass window is
 leaking.  What is a good sealant to use for this application?  It needs to
 adhere to glass and rubber, stay pliable, and resist freezing and solar
 attack.

 Andrew
 1983 300TD white/blue
 320K miles.



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Re: [MBZ] Glass sealant for 300TD window leak

[Jim Cathey]

I had that same issue on my wagon. I tried to use RTV on the inside, 
DON'T do that. RTV stinks and I never did get it to seal. Instead get 
some flowable silicone (it'll say windshield leak repair).


That stuff _is_ RTV.  A particular kind, but RTV nonetheless.
You get it at McParts.

-- Jim



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Re: [MBZ] Glass sealant for 300TD window leak

[andrew strasfogel]

OK!  I get the picture!

On Tue, Oct 28, 2008 at 11:44 PM, Jim Cathey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I had that same issue on my wagon. I tried to use RTV on the inside, DON'T
 do that. RTV stinks and I never did get it to seal. Instead get some
 flowable silicone (it'll say windshield leak repair).


 That stuff _is_ RTV.  A particular kind, but RTV nonetheless.
 You get it at McParts.

 -- Jim




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Re: [MBZ] glass

[RELNGSON]

 PPG is OEM for Mercedes -- they make some of it right down the road from 
 me, the rest in Germany, I think.
 
As is Pilkington.

RLE





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Re: [MBZ] Glass

[RELNGSON]

PPG is and OEM supplier for Benz.

As is Pilkington.

RLE

Re: [MBZ] Glass is glass....

[ANGELO GIAIMO]

Mike, Mitch.

Thank you for your apologies.  But posting rude comments you made to each
other regarding the quickness of my response and the depth of my
pockets,... (None of which have anything to do with glass) was insulting
and uncalled for. Hence, my response.

Yes, you don't know me as I only post occasionally;  Been a learker since
the days the MBCA started their list..  Bought this 350SDL 8 years ago with
85K miles based on friends' satisfaction with (and my driving) their 300D,
300SD and 350SDL over the years.  That and my SO loved it.  It's been a
great car, despite the blown head gasket, ACC cold-weather issues, blower
motor and controller problems and other stuff that goes wrong with a
high(er) milage 14 year old car.  I perform all my own maintenance and have
the help and support of a good indy for stuff I don't want or can't handle.
The only way to make this car affordable...along with this list..

Truce?   I'll try to be a bit less thin skinned.

And on the subject of glass.I'm waiting to hear back from another glass
shop (local independent)  re:their glass supplier.

Angelo Giaimo/Fishkill/IBM @ IBMUS
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Re: [MBZ] Glass is glass....

[Mike Canfield]

Truce???  Heck noAlready forgottenDon't sweat the small 
stufflolol, Mike
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Sent: Friday, September 30, 2005 9:01 AM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Glass is glass



Mike, Mitch.

Thank you for your apologies.  But posting rude comments you made to each
other regarding the quickness of my response and the depth of my
pockets,... (None of which have anything to do with glass) was insulting
and uncalled for. Hence, my response.

Yes, you don't know me as I only post occasionally;  Been a learker since
the days the MBCA started their list..  Bought this 350SDL 8 years ago 
with

85K miles based on friends' satisfaction with (and my driving) their 300D,
300SD and 350SDL over the years.  That and my SO loved it.  It's been a
great car, despite the blown head gasket, ACC cold-weather issues, blower
motor and controller problems and other stuff that goes wrong with a
high(er) milage 14 year old car.  I perform all my own maintenance and 
have
the help and support of a good indy for stuff I don't want or can't 
handle.

The only way to make this car affordable...along with this list..

Truce?   I'll try to be a bit less thin skinned.

And on the subject of glass.I'm waiting to hear back from another 
glass

shop (local independent)  re:their glass supplier.

Angelo Giaimo/Fishkill/IBM @ IBMUS
Internet: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
(845)894-4296 (tie 533); fax: 892-6235 (tie 532);
2070 Rt. 52; Hopewell Junction, N.Y. 12533




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[MBZ] Glass

[RELNGSON]

So, the Pilkington windshield had to be replaced in ~4 years due to pitting
and the PPG is not like the OE either?  Is it holding up any better?
And yah, I know, it's no collector's item or classicjust a diesel vbg

Windshield damage is directly related to how much debris is on the roads one 
drives on. In my area, the freeways are not very clean and traffic is heavy 
and fast, much of the time. And so my car's original glass had a couple of 
small 
stars and a lot of sandblasting. And, since I had not put in a windshield 
claim in nearly four years I decided it was time. Cost me my $100 deductible. 
So 
far, the PPG glass is in pretty good shape but I do admit that I avoid 
following large trucks too closely and try to get by them quickly.

As to classics and collector cars, I include my own W203 on the list of 
no, it isn't.

RLE

[MBZ] Glass

[Wilton Strickland]

Installed PPG to replaced badly pitted windshield in my 350SDL several yrs
ago.  'Looks great; no pits yet.

Wilton

[MBZ] Glass

[Wilton Strickland]

Ins,. USAA, replaced my pitted wndshld.  Cost me $100.

Wilton