Re: [MBZ] Got any spare rear shock units for 300TD?
Hey Euan -- I have an old college roommate in CHCH, teaches at the local institution of higher learning. Peter Andreae, does something weird with those computer thingies. He is, how does one say in the colonies, eccentric in a delightful way! He probably walks or bikes to work, no Benzing, in his sandals until it snows (then he puts on socks with the sandals). --R Euan wrote: From: Marshall Booth <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List Date: Wed, 05 Jul 2006 15:42:20 -0400 To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Got any spare rear shock units for 300TD? Euan's car presumably is a right hand drive (steered) car. That's correct, Marshall. Euan CHCH NZ ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Got any spare rear shock units for 300TD?
> From: Marshall Booth <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List > Date: Wed, 05 Jul 2006 15:42:20 -0400 > To: Mercedes Discussion List > Subject: Re: [MBZ] Got any spare rear shock units for 300TD? > > Euan's car presumably is a right hand drive (steered) car. That's correct, Marshall. Euan CHCH NZ
Re: [MBZ] Got any spare rear shock units for 300TD?
rumor has it that Marshall wrote: > Tom Hargrave wrote: > > Richard, > > > > His may actually have shocks, not the self leveling suspension. I > > don't know if MB sold wagons everywhere with the suspension they > > sold in the states. > > > > Euan, > > > > If you do have conventional gas shocks then they are likely the same > > parts as on the sedan. Also, there is no problem with purchasing > > parts from the manufacturer. Bilstien shocks are the same quality as > > the MB branded shocks. > > ALL wagons (at least thru the mid 90s) had self leveling suspension! > They were NEVER manufactured any other way and there were NO > provisions (either springs or shocks) for converting them to > conventional suspension. People have tried and NONE of the > conversions I know of was considered even tolerable by anyone that > had driven a car with the system working as it was designed to work. I live out in amoung the hill(billy)s in Missouri. There are _very_ few Mercedes cars around. So I have my own collection of parts cars since the nearest salvage yard that "sometimes we have a few of those" is about 70 miles (110 km) away. These cars are visible from the road, so I regularly get visitors - including the 3 other folks in the county that have MB diesels. One day a fellow (from the next county over) stopped in. He was in a W123 300TD and was interested in selling it. Well, I could use another wagon, so I let the conversation continue. The rear suspension looked low, so I asked about it. Turns out he had removed the original "shocks" 'cause it "rode really rough like" and installed some gas-charged thing that he claimed was sold as a proper upgrade (!!!??!!) to the original system. *chuckle* "Still ride funny, though." he said. My reply along the lines of, "uuuhh - the original was an automatic height adjusting system" I felt sorry for him, but I still managed to talk him out of selling me the car! *whew!* -- Philip, ever so grateful for this list!!! It makes me look smart... and that's no small task.
Re: [MBZ] Got any spare rear shock units for 300TD?
Tom Hargrave wrote: Richard, His may actually have shocks, not the self leveling suspension. I don't know if MB sold wagons everywhere with the suspension they sold in the states. Euan, If you do have conventional gas shocks then they are likely the same parts as on the sedan. Also, there is no problem with purchasing parts from the manufacturer. Bilstien shocks are the same quality as the MB branded shocks. ALL wagons (at least thru the mid 90s) had self leveling suspension! They were NEVER manufactured any other way and there were NO provisions (either springs or shocks) for converting them to conventional suspension. People have tried and NONE of the conversions I know of was considered even tolerable by anyone that had driven a car with the system working as it was designed to work. Marshall -- Marshall Booth (who doesn't respond to unsigned questions) "der Dieseling Doktor" [EMAIL PROTECTED] '87 300TD 182Kmi, '85 190D 2.0 161Kmi, '87 190D 2.5 turbo 237kmi, '84 190D 2.2 229Kmi (retired)
Re: [MBZ] Got any spare rear shock units for 300TD?
Craig McCluskey wrote: On Mon, 3 Jul 2006 05:20:06 -0700 Jim Cathey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: is WDB123190 2F 043108. What does the 'F' mean? I thought it was always 0 or 1 for LHD/RHD. Starting in 1981 the "F" COULD refer to the year (F=1985 according to Nitske). My 1985 190D 2.0 5 speed (left hand drive) has the following VIN 201122 1F 117302 Euan's car presumably is a right hand drive (steered) car. Marshall -- Marshall Booth (who doesn't respond to unsigned questions) "der Dieseling Doktor" [EMAIL PROTECTED] '87 300TD 182Kmi, '85 190D 2.0 161Kmi, '87 190D 2.5 turbo 237kmi, '84 190D 2.2 229Kmi (retired)
Re: [MBZ] Got any spare rear shock units for 300TD?
On Mon, 3 Jul 2006 05:20:06 -0700 Jim Cathey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > is WDB123190 2F 043108. > > What does the 'F' mean? I thought it was always 0 or 1 for LHD/RHD. And I always thought those digits listed the type of transmission installed: 10 = four speed manual 12 = automatic 1A (I think) = five speed manual But then, maybe thats for LHD and 20, 22, and 2A would be the RHD equivalents. But that's purely a wild guess. Craig
Re: [MBZ] Got any spare rear shock units for 300TD?
Richard, His may actually have shocks, not the self leveling suspension. I don't know if MB sold wagons everywhere with the suspension they sold in the states. Euan, If you do have conventional gas shocks then they are likely the same parts as on the sedan. Also, there is no problem with purchasing parts from the manufacturer. Bilstien shocks are the same quality as the MB branded shocks. Thanks, Tom Hargrave 256-656-1924 www.kegkits.com -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Richard Hattaway Sent: Monday, July 03, 2006 8:05 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Got any spare rear shock units for 300TD? Euan, If it will do any good, there is a specification in the MB manuals that gives a measure to the amount of acceptable fluid leakage. It is actually more than most cars ever leak, if it would be any help to you in arguing your case. I dont have the number in front of me, but it does exist and someone will probably pipe up with it soon. These shocks are hundreds of dollars here in USA. As I am sure you know, they are not shocks at all, but hydraulic cylinders connected to nitrogen filled spheres. There is a possiblity that a local hydraulics repair shop could re-seal them for you for a nominal price. Or maybe just take them out, clean them up real well, re-install and claim rebuilds. You're correct, it is unjust. Were you not under undue stress, I would suggest the only real soulution would be to ship your five speed to me here in the states, where the inspection people only care about collecting the tax, er.. inspection fee. Richard --- Euan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi there folks > > This is so unjust. My 1985 300TD has failed its Warrant of Fitness > because > the rear hydraulic shock units on the self-levelling suspension are > leaking > tiny amounts of fluid. Result: automatic rejection 'cos WOFs cannot > be > issued in NZ for vehicles with dodgy shocks. > > Now, you tell me: how often would these WOF inspectors detect a > leaking gas > shock? I'll tell you. Hardly ever. The two rear gas shocks on my > Toyota > Hilux 4WD were filled with nothing but rust and dust . They fell > apart when > I replaced them - after the vehicle had survived several WOF > inspections, > that is. > > Anyway, I'm needing two units to replace mine. Does anyone have a set > in > good condition going spare? Part number is A123 320 07 03. My vehicle > number > is WDB123190 2F 043108. > > Alternatively, I have been quoted half the MB dealer price for a > no-star > pair from the manufacturer, parallel-imported into NZ. What's the > story > here? How is that the manufacturer sells the units independently like > this? > > Cheers > > Euan > > 1985 300TD 5-spd manual > 201K miles > > ___ > > Euan S Kennedy > 5 Banks Avenue > Shirley, Christchurch 8061 > New Zealand > > Phone +64 3 980 5712 > Cellphone 027 326 3245 > E-mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Got any spare rear shock units for 300TD?
On Jul 3, 2006, at 1:48 AM, Euan wrote: Anyway, I'm needing two units to replace mine. Does anyone have a set in good condition going spare? Part number is A123 320 07 03. My vehicle number is WDB123190 2F 043108. I just pulled a pair from a 1983 300TD, as I may have one leaking in one of mine. I'm on stand-by with FEMA and I won't be looking into it too soon if I'm deployed. If you don't get it taken care of by the time I get back and I don't need to replace mine, I can ship them to you. Providing that shipping isn't too much $$. The lines can get rusted and leak too. Johnny B. I Mac Therefore I am
Re: [MBZ] Got any spare rear shock units for 300TD?
Euan, If it will do any good, there is a specification in the MB manuals that gives a measure to the amount of acceptable fluid leakage. It is actually more than most cars ever leak, if it would be any help to you in arguing your case. I dont have the number in front of me, but it does exist and someone will probably pipe up with it soon. These shocks are hundreds of dollars here in USA. As I am sure you know, they are not shocks at all, but hydraulic cylinders connected to nitrogen filled spheres. There is a possiblity that a local hydraulics repair shop could re-seal them for you for a nominal price. Or maybe just take them out, clean them up real well, re-install and claim rebuilds. You're correct, it is unjust. Were you not under undue stress, I would suggest the only real soulution would be to ship your five speed to me here in the states, where the inspection people only care about collecting the tax, er.. inspection fee. Richard --- Euan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi there folks > > This is so unjust. My 1985 300TD has failed its Warrant of Fitness > because > the rear hydraulic shock units on the self-levelling suspension are > leaking > tiny amounts of fluid. Result: automatic rejection 'cos WOFs cannot > be > issued in NZ for vehicles with dodgy shocks. > > Now, you tell me: how often would these WOF inspectors detect a > leaking gas > shock? I'll tell you. Hardly ever. The two rear gas shocks on my > Toyota > Hilux 4WD were filled with nothing but rust and dust . They fell > apart when > I replaced them - after the vehicle had survived several WOF > inspections, > that is. > > Anyway, I'm needing two units to replace mine. Does anyone have a set > in > good condition going spare? Part number is A123 320 07 03. My vehicle > number > is WDB123190 2F 043108. > > Alternatively, I have been quoted half the MB dealer price for a > no-star > pair from the manufacturer, parallel-imported into NZ. What's the > story > here? How is that the manufacturer sells the units independently like > this? > > Cheers > > Euan > > 1985 300TD 5-spd manual > 201K miles > > ___ > > Euan S Kennedy > 5 Banks Avenue > Shirley, Christchurch 8061 > New Zealand > > Phone +64 3 980 5712 > Cellphone 027 326 3245 > E-mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
Re: [MBZ] Got any spare rear shock units for 300TD?
This is so unjust. My 1985 300TD has failed its Warrant of Fitness because the rear hydraulic shock units on the self-levelling suspension are leaking tiny amounts of fluid. Result: automatic rejection 'cos WOFs cannot be issued in NZ for vehicles with dodgy shocks. Would an equal leak of PS fluid or engine oil fail the car? I suppose there's no point in teaching them that your suspension fluid is a measurable and replaceable item, and that a tiny seepage there in no way affects the operation of the suspension? Something that can work here is to get another inspection at a different place, maybe they won't be so picky elsewhere? is WDB123190 2F 043108. What does the 'F' mean? I thought it was always 0 or 1 for LHD/RHD. Alternatively, I have been quoted half the MB dealer price for a no-star pair from the manufacturer, parallel-imported into NZ. What's the story here? How is that the manufacturer sells the units independently like this? Their contract with the manufacturer doesn't prohibit this? -- Jim
[MBZ] Got any spare rear shock units for 300TD?
Hi there folks This is so unjust. My 1985 300TD has failed its Warrant of Fitness because the rear hydraulic shock units on the self-levelling suspension are leaking tiny amounts of fluid. Result: automatic rejection 'cos WOFs cannot be issued in NZ for vehicles with dodgy shocks. Now, you tell me: how often would these WOF inspectors detect a leaking gas shock? I'll tell you. Hardly ever. The two rear gas shocks on my Toyota Hilux 4WD were filled with nothing but rust and dust . They fell apart when I replaced them - after the vehicle had survived several WOF inspections, that is. Anyway, I'm needing two units to replace mine. Does anyone have a set in good condition going spare? Part number is A123 320 07 03. My vehicle number is WDB123190 2F 043108. Alternatively, I have been quoted half the MB dealer price for a no-star pair from the manufacturer, parallel-imported into NZ. What's the story here? How is that the manufacturer sells the units independently like this? Cheers Euan 1985 300TD 5-spd manual 201K miles ___ Euan S Kennedy 5 Banks Avenue Shirley, Christchurch 8061 New Zealand Phone +64 3 980 5712 Cellphone 027 326 3245 E-mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
