Re: [MBZ] Hood star and the people that wear hoods
Gary wrote: shouldn't we all be rooting for him to do a good job rather than just be hating on him? How many of the Gore/Kerry supporters rooted for George W. Bush? Did you (in 2004) when he beat Kerry? He was YOUR president, too. In fact, ISN'T BUSH YOUR PRESIDENT NOW? Spare me the let's all get behind the president. Was that your attitude when you were spewing hatred for President Bush? P.S. I agree with Hendrik about the use of racial slurs - especially those words. Its over the line. Donald H. Snook ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Hood star and the people that wear hoods
We need to respect him for the office he holds. We should allow him a chance to do some good. Bob R -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Donald Snook Sent: Monday, November 10, 2008 8:14 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Hood star and the people that wear hoods Gary wrote: shouldn't we all be rooting for him to do a good job rather than just be hating on him? How many of the Gore/Kerry supporters rooted for George W. Bush? Did you (in 2004) when he beat Kerry? He was YOUR president, too. In fact, ISN'T BUSH YOUR PRESIDENT NOW? Spare me the let's all get behind the president. Was that your attitude when you were spewing hatred for President Bush? P.S. I agree with Hendrik about the use of racial slurs - especially those words. Its over the line. Donald H. Snook ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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-- Original message -- From: Rich Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED] she said they use it all the time, calling each other that derisive word, on the field they trash talk the opposition all the time calling each other that and other of the usual vulgar terms. Doesn't make it right. They are bound to take it off the field, someone with a pistol may take offense. As Mother she should be expecting and requiring a high level of dignity from her 'Boys'. They will thank her 10 years from now. Pete ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Hood star and the people that wear hoods
Donald, you do have a point that hits me personally, even though the statistics of that election were a lot less likely to garner support from those who didn't vote for him than are the results of this election. By the time he actually won an election he had done so many things I could not support that it was pretty difficult then also. Your point is still valid though, and I did not support him willingly - nor did I actively seek to have him fail [as I see in some emails today.] I will say that I have more support for him today because of what I think are changes in his methods if not his policy. As I have said before, I will continue to feel that if he had gone into office more like he is today he would be able to leave office more like he entered it. Approval rates in the gutter might seem totally because of the economy, but I think also reflect the 'cowboy' attitude I saw in his early years. I think he has learned a lot from his years in office. BillR -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Donald Snook Sent: Monday, November 10, 2008 10:14 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Hood star and the people that wear hoods Gary wrote: shouldn't we all be rooting for him to do a good job rather than just be hating on him? How many of the Gore/Kerry supporters rooted for George W. Bush? Did you (in 2004) when he beat Kerry? He was YOUR president, too. In fact, ISN'T BUSH YOUR PRESIDENT NOW? Spare me the let's all get behind the president. Was that your attitude when you were spewing hatred for President Bush? P.S. I agree with Hendrik about the use of racial slurs - especially those words. Its over the line. Donald H. Snook ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Hood star and the people that wear hoods
Rich Thomas wrote: Kinda makes you wonder how bad it really is, when it is a common term amongst those who should be finding it most offensive. Intellectually I understand how it has become that way, but it still makes me wonder. It's OK for them to say it, but don't you get caught saying it. There was a big flap locally a few years ago because a coach wanted his players to practice hard, train hard in the weight room, in short they were expected to work like N*s and Let's see some of that N* work ethic. The coach was white, the players mostly black, and no offense taken in the locker room, but when a reporter overheard some of it and published it, the libtards had a field day. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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From my experience working with blacks professionally and having a son who is black, the use of the term within the racial group is quite different than the use of the term from outside the group. One is 'in the family' and the other is always an insult. Remember when Ted Danson used blackface to deliver what would have been Woopi Goldberg's routine to a black audience? It would have been funny if she had delivered it, but was offensive [and she didn't understand why] because he did it. I can call my brother a conservative redneck [he is] but anyone outside the family best be careful how they address one of the people I admire greatly for his personal character. I don't make the rules, I just call 'em as I see 'em. BillR -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Rich Thomas Sent: Monday, November 10, 2008 10:44 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Hood star and the people that wear hoods Its kinda funny, my SIL was visiting this weekend, she tutors the football players (I think all of them are black) for a big school, we watched the game Sat on TV. I asked her about the use of that term amongst the players, she said they use it all the time, calling each other that derisive word, on the field they trash talk the opposition all the time calling each other that and other of the usual vulgar terms. After one particular tackle in the game, a couple of her boys (yes, they are her boys, they call her mom because she parents them and she calls them her boys) were standing over the tacklee, she said I know what they're saying to him right now and proceeded to say it. She talks to them about it, they just laugh at her saying it is no big deal. She finds it easy to argue with a 6'8 375lb guy! Kinda makes you wonder how bad it really is, when it is a common term amongst those who should be finding it most offensive. Intellectually I understand how it has become that way, but it still makes me wonder. --R Donald Snook wrote: P.S. I agree with Hendrik about the use of racial slurs - especially those words. Its over the line. Donald H. Snook ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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My apologies Kaleb and list. I had not noticed that this was to the MBZ group and not to Banned. I do need to check that before I respond to a political comment. BillR -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Bill R Sent: Monday, November 10, 2008 10:54 AM To: 'Mercedes Discussion List' Subject: Re: [MBZ] Hood star and the people that wear hoods Donald, you do have a point that hits me personally, even though the statistics of that election were a lot less likely to garner support from those who didn't vote for him than are the results of this election. By the time he actually won an election he had done so many things I could not support that it was pretty difficult then also. Your point is still valid though, and I did not support him willingly - nor did I actively seek to have him fail [as I see in some emails today.] I will say that I have more support for him today because of what I think are changes in his methods if not his policy. As I have said before, I will continue to feel that if he had gone into office more like he is today he would be able to leave office more like he entered it. Approval rates in the gutter might seem totally because of the economy, but I think also reflect the 'cowboy' attitude I saw in his early years. I think he has learned a lot from his years in office. BillR -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Donald Snook Sent: Monday, November 10, 2008 10:14 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Hood star and the people that wear hoods Gary wrote: shouldn't we all be rooting for him to do a good job rather than just be hating on him? How many of the Gore/Kerry supporters rooted for George W. Bush? Did you (in 2004) when he beat Kerry? He was YOUR president, too. In fact, ISN'T BUSH YOUR PRESIDENT NOW? Spare me the let's all get behind the president. Was that your attitude when you were spewing hatred for President Bush? P.S. I agree with Hendrik about the use of racial slurs - especially those words. Its over the line. Donald H. Snook ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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I'm amazed my innocent little post turned into this... By 2004 Bush had proven himself to be a halfwit in the eyes of a good many people. In 2000 I did indeed support and even vote for him. By 2004 I was disgusted but couldn't bring myself to vote for John Kerry. Last Tuesday I voted for Ralph Nader because I didn't realize I'd have the opportunity to vote for a constitutionalist... -Curt Date: Mon, 10 Nov 2008 08:23:26 -0700 From: Robert Rentfro [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] Hood star and the people that wear hoods To: 'Mercedes Discussion List' mercedes@okiebenz.com Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii We need to respect him for the office he holds. We should allow him a chance to do some good. Bob R -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Donald Snook Sent: Monday, November 10, 2008 8:14 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Hood star and the people that wear hoods Gary wrote: shouldn't we all be rooting for him to do a good job rather than just be hating on him? How many of the Gore/Kerry supporters rooted for George W. Bush? Did you (in 2004) when he beat Kerry? He was YOUR president, too. In fact, ISN'T BUSH YOUR PRESIDENT NOW? Spare me the let's all get behind the president. Was that your attitude when you were spewing hatred for President Bush? P.S. I agree with Hendrik about the use of racial slurs - especially those words. Its over the line. Donald H. Snook ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Hood star and the people that wear hoods
Yup she works on them, and is teaching them many other social skills that they have never had the occasion to learn. Its kinda funny, they do really like her and respect her working with them as mom. She'll take a couple of them out for shopping or whatever occasionally, she always gets looks with these 2 or 3 ginormous black guys following her around like puppies, calling her Mom. No one says anything though -- too funny... One of them she said was probably going to be drafted next year, be making $20M or $30M or something, will probably be calling her for advice. --R [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -- Original message -- From: Rich Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED] she said they use it all the time, calling each other that derisive word, on the field they trash talk the opposition all the time calling each other that and other of the usual vulgar terms. Doesn't make it right. They are bound to take it off the field, someone with a pistol may take offense. As Mother she should be expecting and requiring a high level of dignity from her 'Boys'. They will thank her 10 years from now. Pete ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Hood star and the people that wear hoods
Its kinda funny, my SIL was visiting this weekend, she tutors the football players (I think all of them are black) for a big school, we watched the game Sat on TV. I asked her about the use of that term amongst the players, she said they use it all the time, calling each other that derisive word, on the field they trash talk the opposition all the time calling each other that and other of the usual vulgar terms. After one particular tackle in the game, a couple of her boys (yes, they are her boys, they call her mom because she parents them and she calls them her boys) were standing over the tacklee, she said I know what they're saying to him right now and proceeded to say it. She talks to them about it, they just laugh at her saying it is no big deal. She finds it easy to argue with a 6'8 375lb guy! Kinda makes you wonder how bad it really is, when it is a common term amongst those who should be finding it most offensive. Intellectually I understand how it has become that way, but it still makes me wonder. --R Donald Snook wrote: P.S. I agree with Hendrik about the use of racial slurs - especially those words. Its over the line. Donald H. Snook ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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He'll be rattling his saber but he really cannot do anything until he's in office, right? Bob R -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mitch Haley Sent: Monday, November 10, 2008 8:35 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Hood star and the people that wear hoods Robert Rentfro wrote: We need to respect him for the office he holds. We should allow him a chance to do some good. After all the harm that was done in the last 16 years, how much harm must we allow the president-elect to do on top of it? Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Hood star and the people that wear hoods
Robert Rentfro wrote: We need to respect him for the office he holds. We should allow him a chance to do some good. After all the harm that was done in the last 16 years, how much harm must we allow the president-elect to do on top of it? Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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well, when you start telling people to go to rolf's stormfront website, it's bound to happen On Mon, Nov 10, 2008 at 12:12 PM, Curt Raymond [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm amazed my innocent little post turned into this... By 2004 Bush had proven himself to be a halfwit in the eyes of a good many people. In 2000 I did indeed support and even vote for him. By 2004 I was disgusted but couldn't bring myself to vote for John Kerry. Last Tuesday I voted for Ralph Nader because I didn't realize I'd have the opportunity to vote for a constitutionalist... -Curt Date: Mon, 10 Nov 2008 08:23:26 -0700 From: Robert Rentfro [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] Hood star and the people that wear hoods To: 'Mercedes Discussion List' mercedes@okiebenz.com Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain;charset=us-ascii We need to respect him for the office he holds. We should allow him a chance to do some good. Bob R -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Donald Snook Sent: Monday, November 10, 2008 8:14 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Hood star and the people that wear hoods Gary wrote: shouldn't we all be rooting for him to do a good job rather than just be hating on him? How many of the Gore/Kerry supporters rooted for George W. Bush? Did you (in 2004) when he beat Kerry? He was YOUR president, too. In fact, ISN'T BUSH YOUR PRESIDENT NOW? Spare me the let's all get behind the president. Was that your attitude when you were spewing hatred for President Bush? P.S. I agree with Hendrik about the use of racial slurs - especially those words. Its over the line. Donald H. Snook ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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I think that must be a hilarious and also heart warming scene to observe. On Mon, Nov 10, 2008 at 12:12 PM, Rich Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yup she works on them, and is teaching them many other social skills that they have never had the occasion to learn. Its kinda funny, they do really like her and respect her working with them as mom. She'll take a couple of them out for shopping or whatever occasionally, she always gets looks with these 2 or 3 ginormous black guys following her around like puppies, calling her Mom. No one says anything though -- too funny... One of them she said was probably going to be drafted next year, be making $20M or $30M or something, will probably be calling her for advice. --R [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -- Original message -- From: Rich Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED] she said they use it all the time, calling each other that derisive word, on the field they trash talk the opposition all the time calling each other that and other of the usual vulgar terms. Doesn't make it right. They are bound to take it off the field, someone with a pistol may take offense. As Mother she should be expecting and requiring a high level of dignity from her 'Boys'. They will thank her 10 years from now. Pete ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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She had a bunch of them over for a barbecue or something a few months ago, had some pics of these guys sitting around the house, squeezing onto the couches, inhaling enormous quantities of food (she sent the list of what she bought, none of it was left at the end of the day -- enough to feed about 6 families for a week). It looked like Alice in the Looking Glass, everything looked so small... --R andrew strasfogel wrote: I think that must be a hilarious and also heart warming scene to observe. On Mon, Nov 10, 2008 at 12:12 PM, Rich Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yup she works on them, and is teaching them many other social skills that they have never had the occasion to learn. Its kinda funny, they do really like her and respect her working with them as mom. She'll take a couple of them out for shopping or whatever occasionally, she always gets looks with these 2 or 3 ginormous black guys following her around like puppies, calling her Mom. No one says anything though -- too funny... One of them she said was probably going to be drafted next year, be making $20M or $30M or something, will probably be calling her for advice. --R [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -- Original message -- From: Rich Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED] she said they use it all the time, calling each other that derisive word, on the field they trash talk the opposition all the time calling each other that and other of the usual vulgar terms. Doesn't make it right. They are bound to take it off the field, someone with a pistol may take offense. As Mother she should be expecting and requiring a high level of dignity from her 'Boys'. They will thank her 10 years from now. Pete ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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The point is what others do is their business, I am saying that we are trying to build a 'friendly' list and derogatory comments and terms should not be part of this effort. You see it in the movies all the time, one African American calling another the N word but that does not mean it is now an acceptable thing to say in polite conversation. Hendrik who does know something about racial abuse, unlike some who live in a little fairy tale world Rich Thomas wrote: Its kinda funny, my SIL was visiting this weekend, she tutors the football players (I think all of them are black) for a big school, we watched the game Sat on TV. I asked her about the use of that term amongst the players, she said they use it all the time, calling each other that derisive word, on the field they trash talk the opposition all the time calling each other that and other of the usual vulgar terms. After one particular tackle in the game, a couple of her boys (yes, they are her boys, they call her mom because she parents them and she calls them her boys) were standing over the tacklee, she said I know what they're saying to him right now and proceeded to say it. She talks to them about it, they just laugh at her saying it is no big deal. She finds it easy to argue with a 6'8 375lb guy! Kinda makes you wonder how bad it really is, when it is a common term amongst those who should be finding it most offensive. Intellectually I understand how it has become that way, but it still makes me wonder. --R ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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My hips are toast after bowling. Usually lots of liquid pain number is involved (usually not welcome at the church functions) and I don't realize how jacked up I am until next day. Bob R -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Gary Hurst Sent: Saturday, November 08, 2008 10:27 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Hood star and the people that wear hoods i'm more sure that it isn't polio than anything else. my issue is that everyone makes this polio claim. if you go to hyde park, all they do is talk about his polio. obviously, he suffered from a disabling malady, but to just keep repeated was polio doesn't seem right to me. on a side note, i went bowling today with the church. you'd think this to be a pretty safe activity, but my knees now are functioning particularly poorly after bowling 3 games. i remember when the local bowling center back in queens in the early 80s would have $1 games during weekdays and i'd bowl 15 to 25 games in a day with no ill effect whatever. guess a quarter century of abuse can do that to a fella. On Sat, Nov 8, 2008 at 8:28 PM, Mitch Haley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Gary Hurst wrote: Guillain-Barré Syndrome The people who came up with that theory seem less sure of themselves than you do. http://www.cnn.com/2003/HEALTH/10/31/roosevelt.polio.reut/index.html I've had it (very minor) as long as I can remember, but I'm starting to lean away from the polio theory and more towards something else, like CP. There's no way to tell for sure. When I was two, I got an early sample of the Sabin live culture polio vaccine. I got stomach flu and had some paralysis (mostly left leg) about a week later. I wasn't the only one who got sick after being immunized that day, but the neighbor's daughter (several years older than me) only had flu symptoms. OTOH, I'd already been vaccinated with the Salk stuff, so to get polio from the vaccine I'd have had to pick up no immunity from the Salk vaccine and then had the bad luck to get polio from the Sabin vaccine. I'm still very much against continued use of the Sabin vaccine, especially since even the CDC admits that the majority of the polio cases in the last 30 years are vaccine induced. There's not much natural poliomyelitis in the world today, and virtually none in the USA. I can't believe Thunderbird has 'poliomyelitis' in its spelling dictionary, but not 'Obama' or even 'Osama'. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Gary Hurst wrote: Guillain-Barré Syndrome The people who came up with that theory seem less sure of themselves than you do. http://www.cnn.com/2003/HEALTH/10/31/roosevelt.polio.reut/index.html I've had it (very minor) as long as I can remember, but I'm starting to lean away from the polio theory and more towards something else, like CP. There's no way to tell for sure. When I was two, I got an early sample of the Sabin live culture polio vaccine. I got stomach flu and had some paralysis (mostly left leg) about a week later. I wasn't the only one who got sick after being immunized that day, but the neighbor's daughter (several years older than me) only had flu symptoms. OTOH, I'd already been vaccinated with the Salk stuff, so to get polio from the vaccine I'd have had to pick up no immunity from the Salk vaccine and then had the bad luck to get polio from the Sabin vaccine. I'm still very much against continued use of the Sabin vaccine, especially since even the CDC admits that the majority of the polio cases in the last 30 years are vaccine induced. There's not much natural poliomyelitis in the world today, and virtually none in the USA. I can't believe Thunderbird has 'poliomyelitis' in its spelling dictionary, but not 'Obama' or even 'Osama'. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Well said, Hendrik. Thank you. Wilton - Original Message - From: Hendrik Fay [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Saturday, November 08, 2008 6:53 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Hood star and the people that wear hoods No I don't think he accidentally posted it to the wrong list, personally I don't like that type of language on a semi-civilized chat list. Also this is not the first time this sort of thing has come from this individual and he was asked to not use those racial slurs, as it offends and drags the other listers down with him in some respect. It makes us look like a bunch of backwater racists who drive Mercs because Hitler was chauffeured around in them. Further that post can be interpreted as an incitement to murder the President elect, which may well be an illegal act. I strongly suggest that you lay down some rules in this regard before it gets out of control. I do not have a problem with people saying they do not like the President elect because of his policies but when it is racist based, it becomes another thing altogether. I dare say there are plenty of places on the internet where racists can have a chat, like that stormfront forum. I don't have a problem if people say they think Obama is stupid, as was often the case with dubya but his African background should not even come into it. He could not choose his heritage anymore than anyone else, it's like another lister attacking Roosevelt's disability, did FDR want to have polio? I am not saying being of a different skin color is a disability but rather trying to say we are what we are, some things we can choose and some we can't. End of the day you are in charge Kaleb, it is up to you to decide what is tolerated and what is not and it is up to the individuals to decide if they want to be part of what you decide. Hendrik who comes from a Prussian background Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: uh, wrong list dude. Redghost wrote: Plan to assist the US by removing a colored house xxcx? clay ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Gary Hurst wrote: y'know, FDR didn't have polio, btw. So what put him in the chair, if not adult polio? shouldn't we all be rooting for him to do a good job rather than just be hating on him? I reserve the right to hate racist pricks on principle. Especially if they are socialists with a proven track record. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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No I don't think he accidentally posted it to the wrong list, personally I don't like that type of language on a semi-civilized chat list. Also this is not the first time this sort of thing has come from this individual and he was asked to not use those racial slurs, as it offends and drags the other listers down with him in some respect. It makes us look like a bunch of backwater racists who drive Mercs because Hitler was chauffeured around in them. Further that post can be interpreted as an incitement to murder the President elect, which may well be an illegal act. I strongly suggest that you lay down some rules in this regard before it gets out of control. I do not have a problem with people saying they do not like the President elect because of his policies but when it is racist based, it becomes another thing altogether. I dare say there are plenty of places on the internet where racists can have a chat, like that stormfront forum. I don't have a problem if people say they think Obama is stupid, as was often the case with dubya but his African background should not even come into it. He could not choose his heritage anymore than anyone else, it's like another lister attacking Roosevelt's disability, did FDR want to have polio? I am not saying being of a different skin color is a disability but rather trying to say we are what we are, some things we can choose and some we can't. End of the day you are in charge Kaleb, it is up to you to decide what is tolerated and what is not and it is up to the individuals to decide if they want to be part of what you decide. Hendrik who comes from a Prussian background Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: uh, wrong list dude. Redghost wrote: Plan to assist the US by removing a colored house xxcx? clay ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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y'know, FDR didn't have polio, btw. as for the obama hate, it's pretty stunning. he did the better job and won the election. whether you supported him or opposed him, he is now YOUR President elect. let's give the man a chance and then judge him on his performance. shouldn't we all be rooting for him to do a good job rather than just be hating on him? On Sat, Nov 8, 2008 at 7:16 PM, Wilton Strickland [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well said, Hendrik. Thank you. Wilton - Original Message - From: Hendrik Fay [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Saturday, November 08, 2008 6:53 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Hood star and the people that wear hoods No I don't think he accidentally posted it to the wrong list, personally I don't like that type of language on a semi-civilized chat list. Also this is not the first time this sort of thing has come from this individual and he was asked to not use those racial slurs, as it offends and drags the other listers down with him in some respect. It makes us look like a bunch of backwater racists who drive Mercs because Hitler was chauffeured around in them. Further that post can be interpreted as an incitement to murder the President elect, which may well be an illegal act. I strongly suggest that you lay down some rules in this regard before it gets out of control. I do not have a problem with people saying they do not like the President elect because of his policies but when it is racist based, it becomes another thing altogether. I dare say there are plenty of places on the internet where racists can have a chat, like that stormfront forum. I don't have a problem if people say they think Obama is stupid, as was often the case with dubya but his African background should not even come into it. He could not choose his heritage anymore than anyone else, it's like another lister attacking Roosevelt's disability, did FDR want to have polio? I am not saying being of a different skin color is a disability but rather trying to say we are what we are, some things we can choose and some we can't. End of the day you are in charge Kaleb, it is up to you to decide what is tolerated and what is not and it is up to the individuals to decide if they want to be part of what you decide. Hendrik who comes from a Prussian background Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: uh, wrong list dude. Redghost wrote: Plan to assist the US by removing a colored house xxcx? clay ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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What did he have, then? Wilton - Original Message - From: Gary Hurst [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Saturday, November 08, 2008 7:22 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Hood star and the people that wear hoods y'know, FDR didn't have polio, btw. as for the obama hate, it's pretty stunning. he did the better job and won the election. whether you supported him or opposed him, he is now YOUR President elect. let's give the man a chance and then judge him on his performance. shouldn't we all be rooting for him to do a good job rather than just be hating on him? On Sat, Nov 8, 2008 at 7:16 PM, Wilton Strickland [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well said, Hendrik. Thank you. Wilton - Original Message - From: Hendrik Fay [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Saturday, November 08, 2008 6:53 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Hood star and the people that wear hoods No I don't think he accidentally posted it to the wrong list, personally I don't like that type of language on a semi-civilized chat list. Also this is not the first time this sort of thing has come from this individual and he was asked to not use those racial slurs, as it offends and drags the other listers down with him in some respect. It makes us look like a bunch of backwater racists who drive Mercs because Hitler was chauffeured around in them. Further that post can be interpreted as an incitement to murder the President elect, which may well be an illegal act. I strongly suggest that you lay down some rules in this regard before it gets out of control. I do not have a problem with people saying they do not like the President elect because of his policies but when it is racist based, it becomes another thing altogether. I dare say there are plenty of place s on the internet where racists can have a chat, like that stormfront forum. I don't have a problem if people say they think Obama is stupid, as was often the case with dubya but his African background should not even come into it. He could not choose his heritage anymore than anyone else, it's like another lister attacking Roosevelt's disability, did FDR want to have polio? I am not saying being of a different skin color is a disability but rather trying to say we are what we are, some things we can choose and some we can't. End of the day you are in charge Kaleb, it is up to you to decide what is tolerated and what is not and it is up to the individuals to decide if they want to be part of what you decide. Hendrik who comes from a Prussian background Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: uh, wrong list dude. Redghost wrote: Plan to assist the US by removing a colored house xxcx? clay ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Guillain-Barré Syndrome On Sat, Nov 8, 2008 at 7:34 PM, Wilton Strickland [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What did he have, then? Wilton - Original Message - From: Gary Hurst [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Saturday, November 08, 2008 7:22 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Hood star and the people that wear hoods y'know, FDR didn't have polio, btw. as for the obama hate, it's pretty stunning. he did the better job and won the election. whether you supported him or opposed him, he is now YOUR President elect. let's give the man a chance and then judge him on his performance. shouldn't we all be rooting for him to do a good job rather than just be hating on him? On Sat, Nov 8, 2008 at 7:16 PM, Wilton Strickland [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well said, Hendrik. Thank you. Wilton - Original Message - From: Hendrik Fay [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Saturday, November 08, 2008 6:53 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Hood star and the people that wear hoods No I don't think he accidentally posted it to the wrong list, personally I don't like that type of language on a semi-civilized chat list. Also this is not the first time this sort of thing has come from this individual and he was asked to not use those racial slurs, as it offends and drags the other listers down with him in some respect. It makes us look like a bunch of backwater racists who drive Mercs because Hitler was chauffeured around in them. Further that post can be interpreted as an incitement to murder the President elect, which may well be an illegal act. I strongly suggest that you lay down some rules in this regard before it gets out of control. I do not have a problem with people saying they do not like the President elect because of his policies but when it is racist based, it becomes another thing altogether. I dare say there are plenty of place s on the internet where racists can have a chat, like that stormfront forum. I don't have a problem if people say they think Obama is stupid, as was often the case with dubya but his African background should not even come into it. He could not choose his heritage anymore than anyone else, it's like another lister attacking Roosevelt's disability, did FDR want to have polio? I am not saying being of a different skin color is a disability but rather trying to say we are what we are, some things we can choose and some we can't. End of the day you are in charge Kaleb, it is up to you to decide what is tolerated and what is not and it is up to the individuals to decide if they want to be part of what you decide. Hendrik who comes from a Prussian background Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: uh, wrong list dude. Redghost wrote: Plan to assist the US by removing a colored house xxcx? clay ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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That's related to what I have - Chronic Inflammatory Demyelinating Polyneuropothy (CIDP). Wilton - Original Message - From: Gary Hurst [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Saturday, November 08, 2008 7:37 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Hood star and the people that wear hoods Guillain-Barré Syndrome On Sat, Nov 8, 2008 at 7:34 PM, Wilton Strickland [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What did he have, then? Wilton - Original Message - From: Gary Hurst [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Saturday, November 08, 2008 7:22 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Hood star and the people that wear hoods y'know, FDR didn't have polio, btw. as for the obama hate, it's pretty stunning. he did the better job and won the election. whether you supported him or opposed him, he is now YOUR President elect. let's give the man a chance and then judge him on his performance. shouldn't we all be rooting for him to do a good job rather than just be hating on him? On Sat, Nov 8, 2008 at 7:16 PM, Wilton Strickland [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well said, Hendrik. Thank you. Wilton - Original Message - From: Hendrik Fay [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Saturday, November 08, 2008 6:53 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Hood star and the people that wear hoods No I don't think he accidentally posted it to the wrong list, personally I don't like that type of language on a semi-civilized chat list. Also this is not the first time this sort of thing has come from this individual and he was asked to not use those racial slurs, as it offends and drags the other listers down with him in some respect. It makes us look like a bunch of backwater racists who drive Mercs because Hitler was chauffeured around in them. Further that post can be interpreted as an incitement to murder the President elect, which may well be an illegal act. I strongly suggest that you lay down some rules in this regard before it gets out of control. I do not have a problem with people saying they do not like the President elect because of his policies but when it is racist based, it becomes another thing altogether. I dare say there are plenty of place s on the internet where racists can have a chat, like that stormfront forum. I don't have a problem if people say they think Obama is stupid, as was often the case with dubya but his African background should not even come into it. He could not choose his heritage anymore than anyone else, it's like another lister attacking Roosevelt's disability, did FDR want to have polio? I am not saying being of a different skin color is a disability but rather trying to say we are what we are, some things we can choose and some we can't. End of the day you are in charge Kaleb, it is up to you to decide what is tolerated and what is not and it is up to the individuals to decide if they want to be part of what you decide. Hendrik who comes from a Prussian background Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: uh, wrong list dude. Redghost wrote: Plan to assist the US by removing a colored house xxcx? clay ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts
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i'm more sure that it isn't polio than anything else. my issue is that everyone makes this polio claim. if you go to hyde park, all they do is talk about his polio. obviously, he suffered from a disabling malady, but to just keep repeated was polio doesn't seem right to me. on a side note, i went bowling today with the church. you'd think this to be a pretty safe activity, but my knees now are functioning particularly poorly after bowling 3 games. i remember when the local bowling center back in queens in the early 80s would have $1 games during weekdays and i'd bowl 15 to 25 games in a day with no ill effect whatever. guess a quarter century of abuse can do that to a fella. On Sat, Nov 8, 2008 at 8:28 PM, Mitch Haley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Gary Hurst wrote: Guillain-Barré Syndrome The people who came up with that theory seem less sure of themselves than you do. http://www.cnn.com/2003/HEALTH/10/31/roosevelt.polio.reut/index.html I've had it (very minor) as long as I can remember, but I'm starting to lean away from the polio theory and more towards something else, like CP. There's no way to tell for sure. When I was two, I got an early sample of the Sabin live culture polio vaccine. I got stomach flu and had some paralysis (mostly left leg) about a week later. I wasn't the only one who got sick after being immunized that day, but the neighbor's daughter (several years older than me) only had flu symptoms. OTOH, I'd already been vaccinated with the Salk stuff, so to get polio from the vaccine I'd have had to pick up no immunity from the Salk vaccine and then had the bad luck to get polio from the Sabin vaccine. I'm still very much against continued use of the Sabin vaccine, especially since even the CDC admits that the majority of the polio cases in the last 30 years are vaccine induced. There's not much natural poliomyelitis in the world today, and virtually none in the USA. I can't believe Thunderbird has 'poliomyelitis' in its spelling dictionary, but not 'Obama' or even 'Osama'. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
