Re: [MBZ] I guess I lost the right to make fun of Okies...

[Meade Dillon via Mercedes]

Permethrin is good stuff for treating your clothing, should easily last a
year if applied properly.  Much better idea than using a flea collar on a
human, which would probably have some severe adverse consequences.

I'm familiar with the military grade stuff, that is used as a soak to
completely wet the clothing through and through, and then allow it to line
dry.  I've no experience with the spray-on stuff.
-
Max
Charleston SC

On Thu, May 25, 2017 at 10:02 PM, Curley McLain via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> Well, farm/outdoor stores sell permethrin.  Spray it on your clothes, and
> you have the same thing as the mucho expensive "tick repellant" clothing.
>
> I will be trying it this summer.
>
> And, if you DIY, you can "refresh" your "inexpensive" or "mucho expensive"
> tick repellant clothing.
>
> Mountain Man via Mercedes 
>> May 25, 2017 at 8:47 PM
>>
>> Can we wear dog collar around our knees or ankles? Seems as if the
>> flea tick collar worked well?
>> tin.man
>>
>
>
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Re: [MBZ] I guess I lost the right to make fun of Okies...

[Mitch Haley via Mercedes]

> On May 25, 2017 at 9:47 PM Mountain Man via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> 
> Mitch wrote:
> > Picked 4 off the dog last week, 2 of them dead (flea and tick collar does 
> > the job if they're on her head for a half hour before I find them).
> 
> Can we wear dog collar around our knees or ankles?  Seems as if the
> flea tick collar worked well?

I found one embedded in her left ear and pulled it out. 
Then I felt all around her head and found two dead ones embedded in her right 
ear. All three crawled through the Hartz collar, but chemicals built up in her 
skin likely killed the two as they fed. The instructions with the collar warn 
not to handle it excessively or wear it on human skin. A couple of days later I 
found one embedded on her back a few inches in front of her tail. That one I 
pulled out and kept in a sealed container. It was still alive 24 hours later. 

My vet had warned me that the collar wouldn't be able to protect the entire 
dog. I have a prescription for Bravecto, just need to pick an internet vendor 
and get it filled (I'm not paying $62 a pill to buy it from my vet, have seen 
it on the net for about $130/4). Oh, that reminds me, it's time to feed her a 
monthly dose of ivermectin. 

Mitch

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Re: [MBZ] I guess I lost the right to make fun of Okies...

[Scott Ritchey via Mercedes]

My back yard is about 45 wooded acres so ticks are a constant concern, 
especially in spring and summer.  After trying many commercial solutions, I 
found this tweezers works best for removing ticks:
https://www.amazon.com/TickEase-Tick-Remover-Tipped-Tweezers/dp/B00KI1I7BU/


> -Original Message-
> From:  Curley McLain via Mercedes
> Sent: Thursday, May 25, 2017 7:25 PM
> 
> Wood ticks are generally not regarded as carriers of Lyme disease.  If this is
> true, then they are not much to worry about.  They are easy to spot and pull
> out.
> 
> Deer ticks are nearly invisible.  They are very dangerous as they are 
> carriers of
> lyme disease.  You don't have to be out in the country to be bit by one.  I 
> have
> been bitten here in my own back yard in town.
> Contrary to popular belief, the bites are often not the "bullseye" that is
> publicized, but is a uneven shape red rash, often twice as long as it is wide,
> with the long direction the direction of blood flow.  They may be anywhere.
> They look and feel like a first degree burn.
> 
> The medical PTB (AMA, CDC, etc) downplay and poo-poo the range and
> seriousness of the problem.  The disease was discovered in Germany over
> 100 years ago, but was not "discovered" here until about 1980.  Doctors are
> told the disease does not exist, but it does. I have not seen any accurate
> information on range, but I can certify that it was west of the Mississippi 50
> years ago.  My guess is that the spread is from the east coast to the eastern
> reaches of the plains and from Canada to at least the Mason-Dixon line, and
> probably to the Gulf coast.
> 
> My dad was lucky to have found a doctor who knew what it was and didn't buy
> the AMA/CDC/Pharma lines.
> 
> I had never seen one until a few years ago, SWMBO found on on the neck.
> It was about half the size of a pin head or less.  FOrtunatley, that one was 
> not
> infected.  I was bitten twice by infected ones before anyone ever heard of
> Lyme disease.  It is a sinister disease.
> 
> Not many other dangers unless you are in limestone bluffs where rattlers like
> to live, or passing under trees on a river where the moccasins like to hide.
> 
> Well, on second thought,  Mountain lions have spread through to at least the
> Mississippi, so packing a .45 or similar is not unreasonable.  At the 
> intersection
> of The River and the Des moines River, there were mountain lions, but all the
> PTB denied it even when residents shot them and took pictures and the
> newspapers printed the pictures.  (Even the
> PTB do not believe their own media masters)   One of the guys who saw
> them that I know was a Deputy Sheriff, and not at all corrupt.
> 
> Best to go in pairs into unknown timber.  Once you know the territory, and if
> you carry self defense tools, then it is fine.  I almost always went alone, 
> but
> that was before the lions moved in. I'd go alone now, but I'd carry.
> > Craig via Mercedes  May 25, 2017 at 5:25
> > PM On Thu, 25 May 2017 16:58:25 -0400 MG via Mercedes
> >
> > Seeing there are no woods around here, probably not.
> >
> > But then, there aren't any squirrels around here, either.
> >
> > Just gathering information for the future.
> >
> > I presume you are going say there are dangers from ticks and such just
> > walking through the woods.
> >
> >
> > Craig


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Re: [MBZ] I guess I lost the right to make fun of Okies...

[Curley McLain via Mercedes]

Well, farm/outdoor stores sell permethrin.  Spray it on your clothes, 
and you have the same thing as the mucho expensive "tick repellant" 
clothing.


I will be trying it this summer.

And, if you DIY, you can "refresh" your "inexpensive" or "mucho 
expensive" tick repellant clothing.



Mountain Man via Mercedes 
May 25, 2017 at 8:47 PM

Can we wear dog collar around our knees or ankles? Seems as if the
flea tick collar worked well?
tin.man


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Re: [MBZ] I guess I lost the right to make fun of Okies...

[Mountain Man via Mercedes]

Mitch wrote:
> Picked 4 off the dog last week, 2 of them dead (flea and tick collar does the 
> job if they're on her head for a half hour before I find them).

Can we wear dog collar around our knees or ankles?  Seems as if the
flea tick collar worked well?
tin.man

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Re: [MBZ] I guess I lost the right to make fun of Okies...

[fmiser via Mercedes]

> Mitch wrote:

> Started wearing rubber knee boots in the field, haven't had a
> tick on me in a couple of weeks. Insect repellent with a lot of
> DEET and permethrin in it helps too. 

I don't like putting DEET on my skin - but I'll put it on my
boots.  Or pant legs.  Works pretty well against chiggers too.

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Re: [MBZ] I guess I lost the right to make fun of Okies...

[Mitch Haley via Mercedes]

> On May 25, 2017 at 6:25 PM Craig via Mercedes  wrote:
> 
> 
> I presume you are going say there are dangers from ticks and such just
> walking through the woods.


I've picked three ticks off my body so far this month, all in the same week, 
all on days when I'd been exercising my dog at the farm. Hadn't had five ticks 
my whole life before that. Luckily I felt them crawling in my body hair before 
they dug in. Started wearing rubber knee boots in the field, haven't had a tick 
on me in a couple of weeks. 
Insect repellent with a lot of DEET and permethrin in it helps too. I've got to 
buy some permethrin, the ticks are heavy this year. Picked 4 off the dog last 
week, 2 of them dead (flea and tick collar does the job if they're on her head 
for a half hour before I find them).

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Re: [MBZ] I guess I lost the right to make fun of Okies...

[MG via Mercedes]

That was it. Never occurred to me that anyone would shoot an 
animal to eat that acted wrong. Guess I figured that most who 
hunt know stuff like that and if you were OK with walking in the 
woods then the critters on the squirrel or dear for that matter 
wouldn't be a problem.


Craig via Mercedes wrote:

On Thu, 25 May 2017 16:58:25 -0400 MG via Mercedes
 wrote:


Are you going to be walking through the woods to hunt the squirrels?


Seeing there are no woods around here, probably not.

But then, there aren't any squirrels around here, either.

Just gathering information for the future.

I presume you are going say there are dangers from ticks and such just
walking through the woods.


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] I guess I lost the right to make fun of Okies...

[Curley McLain via Mercedes]

Wood ticks are generally not regarded as carriers of Lyme disease.  If 
this is true, then they are not much to worry about.  They are easy to 
spot and pull out.


Deer ticks are nearly invisible.  They are very dangerous as they are 
carriers of lyme disease.  You don't have to be out in the country to be 
bit by one.  I have been bitten here in my own back yard in town.
Contrary to popular belief, the bites are often not the "bullseye" that 
is publicized, but is a uneven shape red rash, often twice as long as it 
is wide, with the long direction the direction of blood flow.  They may 
be anywhere.  They look and feel like a first degree burn.


The medical PTB (AMA, CDC, etc) downplay and poo-poo the range and 
seriousness of the problem.  The disease was discovered in Germany over 
100 years ago, but was not "discovered" here until about 1980.  Doctors 
are told the disease does not exist, but it does. I have not seen any 
accurate information on range, but I can certify that it was west of the 
Mississippi 50 years ago.  My guess is that the spread is from the east 
coast to the eastern reaches of the plains and from Canada to at least 
the Mason-Dixon line, and probably to the Gulf coast.


My dad was lucky to have found a doctor who knew what it was and didn't 
buy the AMA/CDC/Pharma lines.


I had never seen one until a few years ago, SWMBO found on on the neck.  
It was about half the size of a pin head or less.  FOrtunatley, that one 
was not infected.  I was bitten twice by infected ones before anyone 
ever heard of Lyme disease.  It is a sinister disease.


Not many other dangers unless you are in limestone bluffs where rattlers 
like to live, or passing under trees on a river where the moccasins like 
to hide.


Well, on second thought,  Mountain lions have spread through to at least 
the Mississippi, so packing a .45 or similar is not unreasonable.  At 
the intersection of The River and the Des moines River, there were 
mountain lions, but all the PTB denied it even when residents shot them 
and took pictures and the newspapers printed the pictures.  (Even the 
PTB do not believe their own media masters)   One of the guys who saw 
them that I know was a Deputy Sheriff, and not at all corrupt.


Best to go in pairs into unknown timber.  Once you know the territory, 
and if you carry self defense tools, then it is fine.  I almost always 
went alone, but that was before the lions moved in. I'd go alone now, 
but I'd carry.

Craig via Mercedes 
May 25, 2017 at 5:25 PM
On Thu, 25 May 2017 16:58:25 -0400 MG via Mercedes

Seeing there are no woods around here, probably not.

But then, there aren't any squirrels around here, either.

Just gathering information for the future.

I presume you are going say there are dangers from ticks and such just
walking through the woods.


Craig

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MG via Mercedes 
May 25, 2017 at 3:58 PM
Are you going to be walking through the woods to hunt the squirrels?



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Craig via Mercedes 
May 25, 2017 at 3:07 PM
On Thu, 25 May 2017 11:53:45 -0700 Greg Fiorentino via Mercedes

A couple dumb questions:

- How do you determine if the squirrel is healthy and fit to eat?

- Do they have fleas or other parasites which might carry diseases?


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] I guess I lost the right to make fun of Okies...

[Craig via Mercedes]

On Thu, 25 May 2017 16:58:25 -0400 MG via Mercedes
 wrote:

> Are you going to be walking through the woods to hunt the squirrels?

Seeing there are no woods around here, probably not.

But then, there aren't any squirrels around here, either.

Just gathering information for the future.

I presume you are going say there are dangers from ticks and such just
walking through the woods.


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] I guess I lost the right to make fun of Okies...

[Greg Fiorentino via Mercedes]

Well yes. The woods are good habitat for both deer and squirrel. So you can 
hunt squirrel and look for deer sign at the same time. I have also taken 
squirrels from a canoe on a river. Only take ones on branches over the water, 
makes for an easy retrieve.

Authentic ingredient for Brunswick Stew.

Greg

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Are you going to be walking through the woods to hunt the squirrels?

Craig via Mercedes wrote:
> On Thu, 25 May 2017 11:53:45 -0700 Greg Fiorentino via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
>> I have dressed and cooked some squirrels. Burning off the fur is a 
>> novel way to prepare them for sure. They are easy to skin. The tails 
>> are good material for fishing lures. Hunting squirrels with a .22 is 
>> good practice for the deer season, and can double with scouting 
>> activity for deer.
> 
> A couple dumb questions:
> 
> - How do you determine if the squirrel is healthy and fit to eat?
> 
> - Do they have fleas or other parasites which might carry diseases?
> 
> 
> Craig
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Re: [MBZ] I guess I lost the right to make fun of Okies...

[MG via Mercedes]

Are you going to be walking through the woods to hunt the squirrels?

Craig via Mercedes wrote:

On Thu, 25 May 2017 11:53:45 -0700 Greg Fiorentino via Mercedes
 wrote:


I have dressed and cooked some squirrels. Burning off the fur is a
novel way to prepare them for sure. They are easy to skin. The tails
are good material for fishing lures. Hunting squirrels with a .22 is
good practice for the deer season, and can double with scouting
activity for deer.


A couple dumb questions:

- How do you determine if the squirrel is healthy and fit to eat?

- Do they have fleas or other parasites which might carry diseases?


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] I guess I lost the right to make fun of Okies...

[Greg Fiorentino via Mercedes]

Not dumb questions at all!

Do not consume an animal whose behavior is not normal and healthy looking.

One can assume that ALL wild creatures have parasites. Wearing surgical gloves 
while field dressing is recommended. Any fleas should be disposed of with the 
skin. Local conditions should dictate any concerns, such as prevalence of 
plague in rodents or ticks in areas where tick-borne diseases are endemic. 
Freezing in deep freeze for a few weeks will kill some parasites that are 
encountered in bear. Tularemia is a concern in rabbits and perhaps squirrels 
too. While field dressing, note any defects in the internal organs. If they 
don't look right, assume the animal is not fit to eat.

Squirrel and rabbit should be cooked thoroughly.

HTH!

Greg

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On Thu, 25 May 2017 11:53:45 -0700 Greg Fiorentino via Mercedes 
 wrote:

> I have dressed and cooked some squirrels. Burning off the fur is a 
> novel way to prepare them for sure. They are easy to skin. The tails 
> are good material for fishing lures. Hunting squirrels with a .22 is 
> good practice for the deer season, and can double with scouting 
> activity for deer.

A couple dumb questions:

- How do you determine if the squirrel is healthy and fit to eat?

- Do they have fleas or other parasites which might carry diseases?


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] I guess I lost the right to make fun of Okies...

[Mitch Haley via Mercedes]

I don't think people who would do this have the capacity to pay a $2 million 
judgment. Might as well have sued the squirrel. 
And I agree with Randy, the smell of burning hair was the first thing I thought 
of when I read this. 
Mitch.

> On May 25, 2017 at 2:55 PM Randy Bennell via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> 
> I doubt it smells all that wonderful when one is burning the fur off of 
> a squirrel.
> 
> RB
> 
> On 25/05/2017 1:53 PM, Greg Fiorentino via Mercedes wrote:
> > I have dressed and cooked some squirrels. Burning off the fur is a novel 
> > way to prepare them for sure. They are easy to skin. The tails are good 
> > material for fishing lures. Hunting squirrels with a .22 is good practice 
> > for the deer season, and can double with scouting activity for deer.
> >
> > Greg
> >
> > -Original Message-
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> > Haley via Mercedes
> > Sent: Wednesday, May 24, 2017 7:39 PM
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> > Subject: [MBZ] I guess I lost the right to make fun of Okies...
> >
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Re: [MBZ] I guess I lost the right to make fun of Okies...

[Craig via Mercedes]

On Thu, 25 May 2017 11:53:45 -0700 Greg Fiorentino via Mercedes
 wrote:

> I have dressed and cooked some squirrels. Burning off the fur is a
> novel way to prepare them for sure. They are easy to skin. The tails
> are good material for fishing lures. Hunting squirrels with a .22 is
> good practice for the deer season, and can double with scouting
> activity for deer.

A couple dumb questions:

- How do you determine if the squirrel is healthy and fit to eat?

- Do they have fleas or other parasites which might carry diseases?


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] I guess I lost the right to make fun of Okies...

[Curley McLain via Mercedes]

Not even a Yooper.  But I suspect the yoopers are woodsmen enough to 
know how to skin the squirrel.



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Re: [MBZ] I guess I lost the right to make fun of Okies...

[Randy Bennell via Mercedes]

I doubt it smells all that wonderful when one is burning the fur off of 
a squirrel.


RB

On 25/05/2017 1:53 PM, Greg Fiorentino via Mercedes wrote:

I have dressed and cooked some squirrels. Burning off the fur is a novel way to 
prepare them for sure. They are easy to skin. The tails are good material for 
fishing lures. Hunting squirrels with a .22 is good practice for the deer 
season, and can double with scouting activity for deer.

Greg

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Re: [MBZ] I guess I lost the right to make fun of Okies...

[Greg Fiorentino via Mercedes]

I have dressed and cooked some squirrels. Burning off the fur is a novel way to 
prepare them for sure. They are easy to skin. The tails are good material for 
fishing lures. Hunting squirrels with a .22 is good practice for the deer 
season, and can double with scouting activity for deer.

Greg

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