Re: [MBZ] IT HAS BECOME A COLLECTABLE CAR THIS YEAR AND THEREFORE SHOULD BEGIN APPRECIATING IN VALUE WITH TIME.

2017-05-15 Thread Dan--- via Mercedes 
Probably Hagerty or one of the others doing the underwriting for USAA.  I know 
that Hagerty has a relationship with most of the big insurers, as when I first 
signed up with them my Allstate agent called me and wanted me to assign my 
policy to them.

Yeah, I don't think so

-D

> On May 15, 2017, at 7:15 AM, Karl Wittnebel via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> USAA has an associated collector car insurance company now. Of course
> regular USAA insurance would still be cheaper with no collision, but that
> isn't very useful here.
> 
> On May 10, 2017 4:38 PM, "M. Mitchell Marmel via Mercedes" <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> 
>> Got 'em on a classic car rider to my regular insurance.  Miniscule
>> additional cost.  :)
>> 
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Re: [MBZ] IT HAS BECOME A COLLECTABLE CAR THIS YEAR AND THEREFORE SHOULD BEGIN APPRECIATING IN VALUE WITH TIME.

2017-05-15 Thread Karl Wittnebel via Mercedes 
USAA has an associated collector car insurance company now. Of course
regular USAA insurance would still be cheaper with no collision, but that
isn't very useful here.

On May 10, 2017 4:38 PM, "M. Mitchell Marmel via Mercedes" <
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> Got 'em on a classic car rider to my regular insurance.  Miniscule
> additional cost.  :)
>
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Re: [MBZ] IT HAS BECOME A COLLECTABLE CAR THIS YEAR AND THEREFORE SHOULD BEGIN APPRECIATING IN VALUE WITH TIME.

2017-05-11 Thread Mitch Haley via Mercedes 

> On May 10, 2017 at 4:59 PM Craig via Mercedes  wrote:
 
> I presume, then, there is no love lost in Indiana for those from the
> Chicago area.


I always thought that was a SE Wisconsin term.
The people from the areas that make Illinois a political cesspool are the ones 
who can most easily travel to SE WI. 

Mitch.

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Re: [MBZ] IT HAS BECOME A COLLECTABLE CAR THIS YEAR AND THEREFORE SHOULD BEGIN APPRECIATING IN VALUE WITH TIME.

2017-05-11 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes 
Geex, I wish Floriduh would do that.

-D


> On May 11, 2017, at 10:03 AM, M. Mitchell Marmel via Mercedes 
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> On Thu, May 11, 2017 at 7:49 AM, Ed Booher via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> 
>> For reals? Slap down $7 large and walk away with a plate that is good
>> forever?
>> 
>> 
> Long as you have another car with a regular Arkansas plate, yeah!  Loverly
> deal, it is.
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Re: [MBZ] IT HAS BECOME A COLLECTABLE CAR THIS YEAR AND THEREFORE SHOULD BEGIN APPRECIATING IN VALUE WITH TIME.

2017-05-11 Thread M. Mitchell Marmel via Mercedes 
On Thu, May 11, 2017 at 7:49 AM, Ed Booher via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> For reals? Slap down $7 large and walk away with a plate that is good
> forever?
>
>
Long as you have another car with a regular Arkansas plate, yeah!  Loverly
deal, it is.
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Re: [MBZ] IT HAS BECOME A COLLECTABLE CAR THIS YEAR AND THEREFORE SHOULD BEGIN APPRECIATING IN VALUE WITH TIME.

2017-05-11 Thread Ed Booher via Mercedes 
For reals? Slap down $7 large and walk away with a plate that is good
forever?

On Wed, May 10, 2017 at 3:26 PM, M. Mitchell Marmel via Mercedes <
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> $7 in Arkansas, no renewal after that.
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Re: [MBZ] IT HAS BECOME A COLLECTABLE CAR THIS YEAR AND THEREFORE SHOULD BEGIN APPRECIATING IN VALUE WITH TIME.

2017-05-11 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes 
Yeah, I saw that when I was researching plates for the 300D and then noticed 
the limitations. No thanks.

-D


> On May 11, 2017, at 1:31 AM, MG via Mercedes  wrote:
> 
> Never mind Dan, I found it. It only applies to cars from 75 and earlier and 
> then it only allows them to be used in shows, parades and exhibitions.
> 
> Dan--- via Mercedes wrote:
>> I don't recall what the threshold is, but in Florida you can do "year of 
>> issue" plates on cars older than a certain number of years. It's a one time 
>> flat fee, which is nice, since if you're planning on keeping the car for any 
>> amount of time you can save a chunk of change.
>> Try researching the classic/collector/antique registrations in different 
>> states. It's a crazy patchwork quilt of laws, none of which are consistent 
>> between states.
>> -D


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Re: [MBZ] IT HAS BECOME A COLLECTABLE CAR THIS YEAR AND THEREFORE SHOULD BEGIN APPRECIATING IN VALUE WITH TIME.

2017-05-10 Thread MG via Mercedes 
Never mind Dan, I found it. It only applies to cars from 75 and 
earlier and then it only allows them to be used in shows, parades 
and exhibitions.


Dan--- via Mercedes wrote:

I don't recall what the threshold is, but in Florida you can do "year of issue" 
plates on cars older than a certain number of years. It's a one time flat fee, which is 
nice, since if you're planning on keeping the car for any amount of time you can save a 
chunk of change.

Try researching the classic/collector/antique registrations in different 
states. It's a crazy patchwork quilt of laws, none of which are consistent 
between states.

-D


On May 10, 2017, at 12:24 PM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes  
wrote:

I forget what a historic vehicle plate costs in MI, but it's not out of the "let's go to the bar and grab a big pizza and some beer" range. Less than a regular annual plate for any of my cars. It's good for driving to historic vehicle events and the occasional joyride. If a cop sees you driving it to work repeatedly at 8am, he will pull you over. 

The regular classic plate is good for ten years, but if you have an old annual plate from the year the car was made (like a 1972 plate for your 1972 W109), you only have to pay one registration fee for as long as you own the car. 
$100 a year is mind-boggling to me for a car that can't be used for daily transportation. 

Mitch. 


On May 10, 2017 at 12:13 PM Curley McLain via Mercedes  
wrote:


WOW!  what a ripoff!

I grouse about the 240D going from $16/yr to $50/yr for regular plates.


Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes 
May 10, 2017 at 10:00 AM
Around here you can only drive classic plate cars to Special Events, or to
the shop for repairs.  Registration is $100/yr. and there is no inspection.



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Re: [MBZ] IT HAS BECOME A COLLECTABLE CAR THIS YEAR AND THEREFORE SHOULD BEGIN APPRECIATING IN VALUE WITH TIME.

2017-05-10 Thread MG via Mercedes 
Dan where did you find this info? I did a quick look on the DMV 
site and couldn't find anything on it.


Dan--- via Mercedes wrote:

I don't recall what the threshold is, but in Florida you can do "year of issue" 
plates on cars older than a certain number of years. It's a one time flat fee, which is 
nice, since if you're planning on keeping the car for any amount of time you can save a 
chunk of change.

Try researching the classic/collector/antique registrations in different 
states. It's a crazy patchwork quilt of laws, none of which are consistent 
between states.

-D


On May 10, 2017, at 12:24 PM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes  
wrote:

I forget what a historic vehicle plate costs in MI, but it's not out of the "let's go to the bar and grab a big pizza and some beer" range. Less than a regular annual plate for any of my cars. It's good for driving to historic vehicle events and the occasional joyride. If a cop sees you driving it to work repeatedly at 8am, he will pull you over. 

The regular classic plate is good for ten years, but if you have an old annual plate from the year the car was made (like a 1972 plate for your 1972 W109), you only have to pay one registration fee for as long as you own the car. 
$100 a year is mind-boggling to me for a car that can't be used for daily transportation. 

Mitch. 


On May 10, 2017 at 12:13 PM Curley McLain via Mercedes  
wrote:


WOW!  what a ripoff!

I grouse about the 240D going from $16/yr to $50/yr for regular plates.


Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes 
May 10, 2017 at 10:00 AM
Around here you can only drive classic plate cars to Special Events, or to
the shop for repairs.  Registration is $100/yr. and there is no inspection.



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Re: [MBZ] IT HAS BECOME A COLLECTABLE CAR THIS YEAR AND THEREFORE SHOULD BEGIN APPRECIATING IN VALUE WITH TIME.

2017-05-10 Thread MG via Mercedes 
I asked about that the last time I renewed in April and was told 
that when the cars get to 30 years they automatically get charged 
the antique rate even though you still get the regular plates. If 
you want the blue plates then you have to pay extra for them 
unless it's time to get new plates anyway.


Dan--- via Mercedes wrote:

They're probably talking about it being eligible for classic or antique 
registration/plates.

In Florida that adds absolutely no value, as there's no difference between an 
"antique" registration and a regular one. I think it's a couple bucks cheaper a 
year, that's it.

-D


On May 10, 2017, at 10:16 AM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes 
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  mercedes diesel --RARE 350SD-- - $1(rock hill,sc)

https://greenville.craigslist.org/cto/6092197658.html

--
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Never yield to force; never yield to the apparently overwhelming might of the 
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Re: [MBZ] IT HAS BECOME A COLLECTABLE CAR THIS YEAR AND THEREFORE SHOULD BEGIN APPRECIATING IN VALUE WITH TIME.

2017-05-10 Thread clay via Mercedes 
I switched over from USAA on the SL and saved a bit of cash.  Hagerty makes me 
keep her in a locked garage and all the other stuff that are congruent with 
state regulations.  I pay $250 for Hagerty for a year, USAA was that for half 
the time.

clay


> On May 10, 2017, at 4:25 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> I was talking to MMM….  And how much cheaper was USAA?  And did it include 
> full no deductible coverages like collision, comp, etc.?  Roadside service 
> and guaranteed flatbed towing?
> 
> -D
> 
> 
>> On May 10, 2017, at 7:07 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> I priced Hagerty just the other day for the older cars. USAA was still 
>> cheaper.
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>> 
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Re: [MBZ] IT HAS BECOME A COLLECTABLE CAR THIS YEAR AND THEREFORE SHOULD BEGIN APPRECIATING IN VALUE WITH TIME.

2017-05-10 Thread Curley McLain via Mercedes 
Well it IS a real area.  But it is self-identified, and not officiously 
named by the state of ILL.



Craig via Mercedes 
May 10, 2017 at 10:21 PM
On Wed, 10 May 2017 21:47:34 -0500 Curley McLain via Mercedes

Oh, I thought there was a real location named that, so I put the name in
Google Maps and got nothing ...


Craig


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Re: [MBZ] IT HAS BECOME A COLLECTABLE CAR THIS YEAR AND THEREFORE SHOULD BEGIN APPRECIATING IN VALUE WITH TIME.

2017-05-10 Thread Craig via Mercedes 
On Wed, 10 May 2017 21:47:34 -0500 Curley McLain via Mercedes
 wrote:

> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Forgottonia
> 
> Better yet, a search on forgotonia turns up a lot of fun stuff.  I 
> include calhoun county IL and everything more than 50 miles from, and 
> south of, springfield IL
> 
> Calhoun county is a place I love, but it is very much like one of the 
> poorest counties in eastern KY, only long and skinny with a spine 
> running the length.  Only a couple of roads over the spine.

Oh, I thought there was a real location named that, so I put the name in
Google Maps and got nothing ...


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] IT HAS BECOME A COLLECTABLE CAR THIS YEAR AND THEREFORE SHOULD BEGIN APPRECIATING IN VALUE WITH TIME.

2017-05-10 Thread clay via Mercedes 
Out by me, the state tries to rapaciously gather funds when you register the 
car, but after that you are scott free.  No annual anything.  Some limitations 
on usage, but I seem to be able to gather some good mileage over the past half 
year.  The SL lives in the garage and does not go out much, the SDL gets the 
miles to rack up

clay

> On May 10, 2017, at 8:00 AM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Around here you can only drive classic plate cars to Special Events, or to
> the shop for repairs.  Registration is $100/yr. and there is no inspection.
> 
> On Wed, May 10, 2017 at 10:33 AM, Dan--- via Mercedes > wrote:
> 
>> They're probably talking about it being eligible for classic or antique
>> registration/plates.
>> 
>> In Florida that adds absolutely no value, as there's no difference between
>> an "antique" registration and a regular one. I think it's a couple bucks
>> cheaper a year, that's it.
>> 
>> -D
>> 
>>> On May 10, 2017, at 10:16 AM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes <
>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> 
>>>  mercedes diesel --RARE 350SD-- - $1(rock hill,sc)
>>> 
>>> https://greenville.craigslist.org/cto/6092197658.html
>>> 
>>> --
>>> --FT
>>> Winston Churchill:
>>> “Never give in--never, never, never, never, in nothing great or small,
>> large or petty,
>>> never give in except to convictions of honor and good sense.
>>> Never yield to force; never yield to the apparently overwhelming might
>> of the enemy.”
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2017-05-10 Thread Curley McLain via Mercedes 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Forgottonia

Better yet, a search on forgotonia turns up a lot of fun stuff.  I 
include calhoun county IL and everything more than 50 miles from, and 
south of, springfield IL


Calhoun county is a place I love, but it is very much like one of the 
poorest counties in eastern KY, only long and skinny with a spine 
running the length.  Only a couple of roads over the spine.



Craig via Mercedes 
May 10, 2017 at 9:19 PM
On Wed, 10 May 2017 19:05:33 -0500 Curley McLain via Mercedes

Forgotonia???


Craig


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2017-05-10 Thread Craig via Mercedes 
On Wed, 10 May 2017 19:05:33 -0500 Curley McLain via Mercedes
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> Nor in WI, or if the rest of IL, particularly Forgotonia.

Forgotonia???


Craig

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2017-05-10 Thread Curley McLain via Mercedes 
MMM can rent one square foot of his yard to Kleb, then Kleb can get $7 
plates for whatever he drives, besides the company car.



M. Mitchell Marmel via Mercedes 
May 10, 2017 at 5:20 PM
On Wed, May 10, 2017 at 5:03 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes <

Wel...sort of. You have to have a legally registered car in Arkansas
as the "Daily Driver", at least in name. In my case, that's the E420 I got
offa you. My 450SLC and 300E both have antique tags, but if I were to get
rid of the E420, I'd have to register one or the other as a regular car.

-MMM-


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2017-05-10 Thread Curley McLain via Mercedes 

Nor in WI, or if the rest of IL, particularly Forgotonia.


Craig via Mercedes 
May 10, 2017 at 3:59 PM
On Wed, 10 May 2017 20:18:25 + Rick Knoble via Mercedes

Oh.

I presume, then, there is no love lost in Indiana for those from the
Chicago area.


Craig



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2017-05-10 Thread Curley McLain via Mercedes 
It is a colloquialism coined by residents of WI or IN who are constantly 
run over by Illinois drivers.


It is freely used by LEOs in WI for sure.


Rick Knoble via Mercedes 
May 10, 2017 at 3:18 PM

Fornicating
Illinois
B*stards

Rick
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2017-05-10 Thread M. Mitchell Marmel via Mercedes 
Got 'em on a classic car rider to my regular insurance.  Miniscule
additional cost.  :)

-MMM-
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2017-05-10 Thread Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
I am sure there was a deductible. But I don't really want to pay for full 
coverage. 

Sent from my iPhone

> On May 10, 2017, at 6:25 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes  
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> I was talking to MMM….  And how much cheaper was USAA?  And did it include 
> full no deductible coverages like collision, comp, etc.?  Roadside service 
> and guaranteed flatbed towing?
> 
> -D
> 
> 
>> On May 10, 2017, at 7:07 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> I priced Hagerty just the other day for the older cars. USAA was still 
>> cheaper.
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
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2017-05-10 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes 
I was talking to MMM….  And how much cheaper was USAA?  And did it include full 
no deductible coverages like collision, comp, etc.?  Roadside service and 
guaranteed flatbed towing?

-D


> On May 10, 2017, at 7:07 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
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> I priced Hagerty just the other day for the older cars. USAA was still 
> cheaper.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> 


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2017-05-10 Thread Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
I priced Hagerty just the other day for the older cars. USAA was still cheaper.

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> On May 10, 2017, at 5:47 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> Hopefully you have those cars insured under a classic car policy, like one 
> from Hagerty.  They insure my 1982 300D for barely $300/year with full 
> replacement coverage.  The only major requirement they have is that you must 
> have a “daily driver” that’s insured by a major carrier.
> 
> I put the E300D on a Hagerty policy today, and I think it’s around $260/year 
> for full coverage as well.  If I insured it with Allstate it would cost me 
> around $2000/year. 
> 
> -D
> 
> 
>> On May 10, 2017, at 6:20 PM, M. Mitchell Marmel via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> On Wed, May 10, 2017 at 5:03 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes <
>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>> 
>>> Well heck, I got one on a car I bought so technically I guess it's good.
>>> 
>> 
>> Wel...sort of.  You have to have a legally registered car in Arkansas
>> as the "Daily Driver", at least in name.  In my case, that's the E420 I got
>> offa you.  My 450SLC and 300E both have antique tags, but if I were to get
>> rid of the E420, I'd have to register one or the other as a regular car.
>> 
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2017-05-10 Thread Max Dillon via Mercedes 
Eff'n Illinois Ba#$@d
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'95 E300

On May 10, 2017 3:50:30 PM EDT, Craig via Mercedes  
wrote:
>
>FIB?
>

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Re: [MBZ] IT HAS BECOME A COLLECTABLE CAR THIS YEAR AND THEREFORE SHOULD BEGIN APPRECIATING IN VALUE WITH TIME.

2017-05-10 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes 
Hopefully you have those cars insured under a classic car policy, like one from 
Hagerty.  They insure my 1982 300D for barely $300/year with full replacement 
coverage.  The only major requirement they have is that you must have a “daily 
driver” that’s insured by a major carrier.

I put the E300D on a Hagerty policy today, and I think it’s around $260/year 
for full coverage as well.  If I insured it with Allstate it would cost me 
around $2000/year. 

-D


> On May 10, 2017, at 6:20 PM, M. Mitchell Marmel via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> On Wed, May 10, 2017 at 5:03 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> 
>> Well heck, I got one on a car I bought so technically I guess it's good.
>> 
> 
> Wel...sort of.  You have to have a legally registered car in Arkansas
> as the "Daily Driver", at least in name.  In my case, that's the E420 I got
> offa you.  My 450SLC and 300E both have antique tags, but if I were to get
> rid of the E420, I'd have to register one or the other as a regular car.
> 
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2017-05-10 Thread M. Mitchell Marmel via Mercedes 
On Wed, May 10, 2017 at 5:03 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes <
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> Well heck, I got one on a car I bought so technically I guess it's good.
>

Wel...sort of.  You have to have a legally registered car in Arkansas
as the "Daily Driver", at least in name.  In my case, that's the E420 I got
offa you.  My 450SLC and 300E both have antique tags, but if I were to get
rid of the E420, I'd have to register one or the other as a regular car.

-MMM-
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2017-05-10 Thread Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
Well heck, I got one on a car I bought so technically I guess it's good.

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> On May 10, 2017, at 4:42 PM, M. Mitchell Marmel via Mercedes 
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> On Wed, May 10, 2017 at 4:18 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes <
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>> So those antique plates from Arkansas are $7 for life?
>> 
> 
> Near as I can tell!
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2017-05-10 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes 
You can hear the gears turning, can’t you?

-D


> On May 10, 2017, at 5:42 PM, M. Mitchell Marmel via Mercedes 
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> 
> On Wed, May 10, 2017 at 4:18 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> 
>> So those antique plates from Arkansas are $7 for life?
>> 
> 
> Near as I can tell!
> 
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2017-05-10 Thread M. Mitchell Marmel via Mercedes 
On Wed, May 10, 2017 at 4:18 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> So those antique plates from Arkansas are $7 for life?
>

Near as I can tell!

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Re: [MBZ] IT HAS BECOME A COLLECTABLE CAR THIS YEAR AND THEREFORE SHOULD BEGIN APPRECIATING IN VALUE WITH TIME.

2017-05-10 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes 
So those antique plates from Arkansas are $7 for life?

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> On May 10, 2017, at 2:26 PM, M. Mitchell Marmel via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> $7 in Arkansas, no renewal after that.
> 
> On Wed, May 10, 2017 at 2:18 PM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> 
>> In Michigan the threshold is 25 years, but they count slightly differently
>> than I do. In December 2011, my 1986 201.034 was 25 years old, must buy a
>> regular plate. In January 2012, it was over 25 years old and I could buy a
>> historic vehicle plate. At least that's what a woman at the Secretary of
>> State's office told me in 2011.
>> 
>> I just looked it up. The SoS website now says the vehicle must be 26 years
>> old, which makes sense in light of what I wrote above. It still must be
>> renewed every ten years and the fee is $30, or $3 a year.
>> 
>> A historical vehicle must be:
>> 
>>26 or more years old
>>Owned solely as a collector's item
>>Used only for events such as historical club activities, parades, and
>> car shows
>> 
>> http://www.michigan.gov/sos/0,4670,7-127-1585_1595_52364-204909--,00.html
>> 
>> Note: A vehicle registered with a historical or authentic plate cannot be
>> used for routine, day-to-day transportation.
>> 
>> Mitch.
>> 
>>> On May 10, 2017 at 1:02 PM Dan--- via Mercedes 
>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> 
>>> I don't recall what the threshold is, but in Florida you can do "year of
>> issue" plates on cars older than a certain number of years.
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2017-05-10 Thread Floyd Thursby via Mercedes 

We have FOBs here, because SC is closer than Florida

--FT


On 5/10/17 5:03 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote:

I didn’t learn the term until I moved to Wisconsin.  It’s a common one up 
there, as many FIBs come north to Wisconsin for their summer vacations or have 
cabins in northern WI.  You know they’re one when a car blows past you on the 
interstate going 90 mph…

I used to a see a lot of them around the town I lived in (Port Washington) as 
they frequented Allen-Edmonds, the shoe manufacturer who is based there.

-D


On May 10, 2017, at 4:59 PM, Craig via Mercedes  wrote:

On Wed, 10 May 2017 20:18:25 + Rick Knoble via Mercedes
 wrote:


Craig inquires:


‎FIB?

Fornicating
Illinois
B*stards

Oh.

I presume, then, there is no love lost in Indiana for those from the
Chicago area.


Craig

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petty,
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Never yield to force; never yield to the apparently overwhelming might of the 
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Re: [MBZ] IT HAS BECOME A COLLECTABLE CAR THIS YEAR AND THEREFORE SHOULD BEGIN APPRECIATING IN VALUE WITH TIME.

2017-05-10 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes 
I didn’t learn the term until I moved to Wisconsin.  It’s a common one up 
there, as many FIBs come north to Wisconsin for their summer vacations or have 
cabins in northern WI.  You know they’re one when a car blows past you on the 
interstate going 90 mph…

I used to a see a lot of them around the town I lived in (Port Washington) as 
they frequented Allen-Edmonds, the shoe manufacturer who is based there.

-D

> On May 10, 2017, at 4:59 PM, Craig via Mercedes  wrote:
> 
> On Wed, 10 May 2017 20:18:25 + Rick Knoble via Mercedes
>  wrote:
> 
>> Craig inquires:
>> 
>>> ‎FIB?
>> 
>> Fornicating
>> Illinois 
>> B*stards
> 
> Oh.
> 
> I presume, then, there is no love lost in Indiana for those from the
> Chicago area.
> 
> 
> Craig
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2017-05-10 Thread Craig via Mercedes 
On Wed, 10 May 2017 20:18:25 + Rick Knoble via Mercedes
 wrote:

> Craig inquires:
> 
> >‎FIB?
> 
> Fornicating
> Illinois 
> B*stards

Oh.

I presume, then, there is no love lost in Indiana for those from the
Chicago area.


Craig

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2017-05-10 Thread Rick Knoble via Mercedes 
Craig inquires:

>‎FIB?

Fornicating
Illinois 
B*stards

Rick
  Original Message  

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2017-05-10 Thread Craig via Mercedes 
On Wed, 10 May 2017 14:18:06 -0500 Curley McLain via Mercedes
 wrote:

> Wow the FIB legislature is slipping.  Normally they try to be as 
> expensive as Kollyfonia or new jork.  They better raise the price soon.
> 
> > Rick Knoble via Mercedes 
> > May 10, 2017 at 1:32 PM
> > Because the FIB's would drive on Illinois plates (cheaper) whilst 
> > living in Indiana (cheaper).

FIB?


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2017-05-10 Thread M. Mitchell Marmel via Mercedes 
$7 in Arkansas, no renewal after that.

On Wed, May 10, 2017 at 2:18 PM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> In Michigan the threshold is 25 years, but they count slightly differently
> than I do. In December 2011, my 1986 201.034 was 25 years old, must buy a
> regular plate. In January 2012, it was over 25 years old and I could buy a
> historic vehicle plate. At least that's what a woman at the Secretary of
> State's office told me in 2011.
>
> I just looked it up. The SoS website now says the vehicle must be 26 years
> old, which makes sense in light of what I wrote above. It still must be
> renewed every ten years and the fee is $30, or $3 a year.
>
> A historical vehicle must be:
>
> 26 or more years old
> Owned solely as a collector's item
> Used only for events such as historical club activities, parades, and
> car shows
>
> http://www.michigan.gov/sos/0,4670,7-127-1585_1595_52364-204909--,00.html
>
> Note: A vehicle registered with a historical or authentic plate cannot be
> used for routine, day-to-day transportation.
>
> Mitch.
>
> > On May 10, 2017 at 1:02 PM Dan--- via Mercedes 
> wrote:
> >
> >
> > I don't recall what the threshold is, but in Florida you can do "year of
> issue" plates on cars older than a certain number of years.
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2017-05-10 Thread Mitch Haley via Mercedes 
In Michigan the threshold is 25 years, but they count slightly differently than 
I do. In December 2011, my 1986 201.034 was 25 years old, must buy a regular 
plate. In January 2012, it was over 25 years old and I could buy a historic 
vehicle plate. At least that's what a woman at the Secretary of State's office 
told me in 2011.

I just looked it up. The SoS website now says the vehicle must be 26 years old, 
which makes sense in light of what I wrote above. It still must be renewed 
every ten years and the fee is $30, or $3 a year. 

A historical vehicle must be:

26 or more years old
Owned solely as a collector's item
Used only for events such as historical club activities, parades, and car 
shows

http://www.michigan.gov/sos/0,4670,7-127-1585_1595_52364-204909--,00.html

Note: A vehicle registered with a historical or authentic plate cannot be used 
for routine, day-to-day transportation.

Mitch. 

> On May 10, 2017 at 1:02 PM Dan--- via Mercedes  wrote:
> 
> 
> I don't recall what the threshold is, but in Florida you can do "year of 
> issue" plates on cars older than a certain number of years.

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2017-05-10 Thread Curley McLain via Mercedes 
Wow the FIB legislature is slipping.  Normally they try to be as 
expensive as Kollyfonia or new jork.  They better raise the price soon.



Rick Knoble via Mercedes 
May 10, 2017 at 1:32 PM
Because the FIB's would drive on Illinois plates (cheaper) whilst 
living in Indiana (cheaper).


Rick



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2017-05-10 Thread Curley McLain via Mercedes 
MS is better.  no restrictions, $25 for a plate for 25 years.  Car has 
to be 25 years old.  Dunno about mfg year plate.  Some have them but I 
never investigated the rules/cost.



Ed Booher via Mercedes 
May 10, 2017 at 1:16 PM
So what I'm hearing is I need a ramshackle cabin in the middle of Nowhere,
WA that has a property tax of $5 a year, but offers me a "Home Address"
then I can plate the car with "Only drive this once, maybe twice a year
plates" permanently ... and drive as much as I want here in Indiana. :)

(Which wouldn't actually work anyway, we have laws about the length of 
time

you can drive an out of state vehicle before you must get IN plates, but I
digress.)


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2017-05-10 Thread Dan--- via Mercedes 
Mitch's state (MI) has some really draconian classic/collector plate laws. I 
read through them one time when a friend was going to send their kid to school 
in Ann Arbor with one of his old MBs. Bad idea.

As for Indiana, what's to stop you from doing it? They have to stop you first, 
which, unless you're being a jerk or driving poorly, is unlikely.

People do this in FL all the time, as our insurance is stupid expensive, and 
when a new resident discovers this they'll often go to great lengths to avoid 
registering their car here. Oh, that and the $200+ fee we charge everyone when 
they bring a car in from out of state

I did this when we moved back in 2010 and got busted, only because I forgot my 
registration had expired on my Indiana plate. When I got nailed for it, I 
signed the title back over to the wife (I bought the car in Florida and titled 
it there, but insured it under my existing Indiana policy) who was still in 
Indiana, and it only cost about $50 to sort it out. That kept me from having to 
insure the car in FL until the following October.

-D

> On May 10, 2017, at 2:16 PM, Ed Booher via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> So what I'm hearing is I need a ramshackle cabin in the middle of Nowhere,
> WA that has a property tax of $5 a year, but offers me a "Home Address"
> then I can plate the car with "Only drive this once, maybe twice a year
> plates" permanently ... and drive as much as I want here in Indiana. :)
> 
> (Which wouldn't actually work anyway, we have laws about the length of time
> you can drive an out of state vehicle before you must get IN plates, but I
> digress.)
> 
> On Wed, May 10, 2017 at 11:41 AM, Jim Cathey via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> 
>>> 
>>> Around here you can only drive classic plate cars to Special Events, or
>> to
>> 
>> the shop for repairs.  Registration is $100/yr. and there is no inspection.
>>> 
>> 
>> Wow, nasty.  Here it's something like the regular cost for 1 year, but then
>> never a fee again.
>> And while you can't commute to work, pleasure jaunts of any sort are fine.
>> 
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2017-05-10 Thread Rick Knoble via Mercedes 
‎‎Ed sez:

>(Which wouldn't actually work anyway, >we have laws about the length of time
>you can drive an out of state vehicle >before you must get IN plates, but I
>digress.)
>
Because the FIB's would drive on Illinois plates (cheaper) whilst living in 
Indiana (cheaper). 

Rick
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2017-05-10 Thread Ed Booher via Mercedes 
So what I'm hearing is I need a ramshackle cabin in the middle of Nowhere,
WA that has a property tax of $5 a year, but offers me a "Home Address"
then I can plate the car with "Only drive this once, maybe twice a year
plates" permanently ... and drive as much as I want here in Indiana. :)

(Which wouldn't actually work anyway, we have laws about the length of time
you can drive an out of state vehicle before you must get IN plates, but I
digress.)

On Wed, May 10, 2017 at 11:41 AM, Jim Cathey via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> >
> > Around here you can only drive classic plate cars to Special Events, or
> to
>
> the shop for repairs.  Registration is $100/yr. and there is no inspection.
> >
>
> Wow, nasty.  Here it's something like the regular cost for 1 year, but then
> never a fee again.
> And while you can't commute to work, pleasure jaunts of any sort are fine.
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Re: [MBZ] IT HAS BECOME A COLLECTABLE CAR THIS YEAR AND THEREFORE SHOULD BEGIN APPRECIATING IN VALUE WITH TIME.

2017-05-10 Thread Curley McLain via Mercedes 

Liberals love to be generous!  
...
...
...
BUT ONLY WITH OTHER PEOPLE'S MONEY
"Registration fees" is one way they get other people's money to be 
generous with.

Mitch Haley via Mercedes 
May 10, 2017 at 11:24 AM
I forget what a historic vehicle plate costs in MI, but it's not out 
of the "let's go to the bar and grab a big pizza and some beer" range. 
Less than a regular annual plate for any of my cars. It's good for 
driving to historic vehicle events and the occasional joyride. If a 
cop sees you driving it to work repeatedly at 8am, he will pull you over.


The regular classic plate is good for ten years, but if you have an 
old annual plate from the year the car was made (like a 1972 plate for 
your 1972 W109), you only have to pay one registration fee for as long 
as you own the car.
$100 a year is mind-boggling to me for a car that can't be used for 
daily transportation.


Mitch.


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Re: [MBZ] IT HAS BECOME A COLLECTABLE CAR THIS YEAR AND THEREFORE SHOULD BEGIN APPRECIATING IN VALUE WITH TIME.

2017-05-10 Thread Dan--- via Mercedes 
I don't recall what the threshold is, but in Florida you can do "year of issue" 
plates on cars older than a certain number of years. It's a one time flat fee, 
which is nice, since if you're planning on keeping the car for any amount of 
time you can save a chunk of change.

Try researching the classic/collector/antique registrations in different 
states. It's a crazy patchwork quilt of laws, none of which are consistent 
between states.

-D

> On May 10, 2017, at 12:24 PM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> I forget what a historic vehicle plate costs in MI, but it's not out of the 
> "let's go to the bar and grab a big pizza and some beer" range. Less than a 
> regular annual plate for any of my cars. It's good for driving to historic 
> vehicle events and the occasional joyride. If a cop sees you driving it to 
> work repeatedly at 8am, he will pull you over. 
> 
> The regular classic plate is good for ten years, but if you have an old 
> annual plate from the year the car was made (like a 1972 plate for your 1972 
> W109), you only have to pay one registration fee for as long as you own the 
> car. 
> $100 a year is mind-boggling to me for a car that can't be used for daily 
> transportation. 
> 
> Mitch. 
> 
>> On May 10, 2017 at 12:13 PM Curley McLain via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> WOW!  what a ripoff!
>> 
>> I grouse about the 240D going from $16/yr to $50/yr for regular plates.
>> 
>>> Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes 
>>> May 10, 2017 at 10:00 AM
>>> Around here you can only drive classic plate cars to Special Events, or to
>>> the shop for repairs.  Registration is $100/yr. and there is no inspection.
>>> 
>>> 
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Re: [MBZ] IT HAS BECOME A COLLECTABLE CAR THIS YEAR AND THEREFORE SHOULD BEGIN APPRECIATING IN VALUE WITH TIME.

2017-05-10 Thread Mitch Haley via Mercedes 
I forget what a historic vehicle plate costs in MI, but it's not out of the 
"let's go to the bar and grab a big pizza and some beer" range. Less than a 
regular annual plate for any of my cars. It's good for driving to historic 
vehicle events and the occasional joyride. If a cop sees you driving it to work 
repeatedly at 8am, he will pull you over. 

The regular classic plate is good for ten years, but if you have an old annual 
plate from the year the car was made (like a 1972 plate for your 1972 W109), 
you only have to pay one registration fee for as long as you own the car. 
$100 a year is mind-boggling to me for a car that can't be used for daily 
transportation. 
 
Mitch. 

> On May 10, 2017 at 12:13 PM Curley McLain via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> 
> WOW!  what a ripoff!
> 
> I grouse about the 240D going from $16/yr to $50/yr for regular plates.
> 
> > Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes 
> > May 10, 2017 at 10:00 AM
> > Around here you can only drive classic plate cars to Special Events, or to
> > the shop for repairs.  Registration is $100/yr. and there is no inspection.
> >
> >
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Re: [MBZ] IT HAS BECOME A COLLECTABLE CAR THIS YEAR AND THEREFORE SHOULD BEGIN APPRECIATING IN VALUE WITH TIME.

2017-05-10 Thread Curley McLain via Mercedes 

WOW!  what a ripoff!

I grouse about the 240D going from $16/yr to $50/yr for regular plates.


Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes 
May 10, 2017 at 10:00 AM
Around here you can only drive classic plate cars to Special Events, or to
the shop for repairs.  Registration is $100/yr. and there is no inspection.




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Re: [MBZ] IT HAS BECOME A COLLECTABLE CAR THIS YEAR AND THEREFORE SHOULD BEGIN APPRECIATING IN VALUE WITH TIME.

2017-05-10 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes 
There are enough loopholes in the MD code so I could just drive anywhere I
wanted to - anytime - and was never stopped.  I never used it for
commuting, however.

On Wed, May 10, 2017 at 11:41 AM, Jim Cathey via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> >
> > Around here you can only drive classic plate cars to Special Events, or
> to
>
> the shop for repairs.  Registration is $100/yr. and there is no inspection.
> >
>
> Wow, nasty.  Here it's something like the regular cost for 1 year, but then
> never a fee again.
> And while you can't commute to work, pleasure jaunts of any sort are fine.
>
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Re: [MBZ] IT HAS BECOME A COLLECTABLE CAR THIS YEAR AND THEREFORE SHOULD BEGIN APPRECIATING IN VALUE WITH TIME.

2017-05-10 Thread Jim Cathey via Mercedes 
>
> Around here you can only drive classic plate cars to Special Events, or to

the shop for repairs.  Registration is $100/yr. and there is no inspection.
>

Wow, nasty.  Here it's something like the regular cost for 1 year, but then
never a fee again.
And while you can't commute to work, pleasure jaunts of any sort are fine.

-- Jim (living in the _better_ Washington)
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Re: [MBZ] IT HAS BECOME A COLLECTABLE CAR THIS YEAR AND THEREFORE SHOULD BEGIN APPRECIATING IN VALUE WITH TIME.

2017-05-10 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes 
Around here you can only drive classic plate cars to Special Events, or to
the shop for repairs.  Registration is $100/yr. and there is no inspection.

On Wed, May 10, 2017 at 10:33 AM, Dan--- via Mercedes  wrote:

> They're probably talking about it being eligible for classic or antique
> registration/plates.
>
> In Florida that adds absolutely no value, as there's no difference between
> an "antique" registration and a regular one. I think it's a couple bucks
> cheaper a year, that's it.
>
> -D
>
> > On May 10, 2017, at 10:16 AM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> >
> >   mercedes diesel --RARE 350SD-- - $1(rock hill,sc)
> >
> > https://greenville.craigslist.org/cto/6092197658.html
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Re: [MBZ] IT HAS BECOME A COLLECTABLE CAR THIS YEAR AND THEREFORE SHOULD BEGIN APPRECIATING IN VALUE WITH TIME.

2017-05-10 Thread Dan--- via Mercedes 
They're probably talking about it being eligible for classic or antique 
registration/plates.

In Florida that adds absolutely no value, as there's no difference between an 
"antique" registration and a regular one. I think it's a couple bucks cheaper a 
year, that's it.

-D

> On May 10, 2017, at 10:16 AM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> 
>   mercedes diesel --RARE 350SD-- - $1(rock hill,sc)
> 
> https://greenville.craigslist.org/cto/6092197658.html
> 
> -- 
> --FT
> Winston Churchill:
> “Never give in--never, never, never, never, in nothing great or small, large 
> or petty,
> never give in except to convictions of honor and good sense.
> Never yield to force; never yield to the apparently overwhelming might of the 
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[MBZ] IT HAS BECOME A COLLECTABLE CAR THIS YEAR AND THEREFORE SHOULD BEGIN APPRECIATING IN VALUE WITH TIME.

2017-05-10 Thread Floyd Thursby via Mercedes 


   mercedes diesel --RARE 350SD-- - $1(rock hill,sc)

https://greenville.craigslist.org/cto/6092197658.html

--
--FT
Winston Churchill:
“Never give in--never, never, never, never, in nothing great or small, large or 
petty,
never give in except to convictions of honor and good sense.
Never yield to force; never yield to the apparently overwhelming might of the 
enemy.”

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