Re: [MBZ] Ice storm
YOINKS... I'd have to build a little trailer... Date: Mon, 15 Dec 2008 13:10:30 -0500 From: Mitch Haley Subject: Re: [MBZ] Ice storm To: Mercedes Discussion List Message-ID: <49469d96.5010...@voyager.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Curt Raymond wrote: > An ST generator head like http://www.powersolutionsllc.com/5kw should last me > just about forever... > The idea is to have something easier to carry to camp and put on our Cub Cadet up there and have not get stolen... Depends on your definition of "easy to carry". "A 7.5 KW head has 7,500 watts output capability running continuously, 24/7. That is just over 60 amps at 120 volts, and 30 amps on 240 volts. It requires about 2 HP per KW output for an engine to run a generator head. One of our 5 KW ST heads weighs about 250 pounds." Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Ice storm
Curt Raymond wrote: An ST generator head like http://www.powersolutionsllc.com/5kw should last me just about forever... > The idea is to have something easier to carry to camp and put on our Cub Cadet up there and have not get stolen... Depends on your definition of "easy to carry". "A 7.5 KW head has 7,500 watts output capability running continuously, 24/7. That is just over 60 amps at 120 volts, and 30 amps on 240 volts. It requires about 2 HP per KW output for an engine to run a generator head. One of our 5 KW ST heads weighs about 250 pounds." Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Ice storm
How big is the motor on that? I'm thinking to get a gen-head and put it on my Cub Cadet 7hp tractor. The question is how big. Most 3k gensets are a 5hp motor, I'm wondering what 7hp buys me. 3000/5=600 so 600w:1hp? In which case 600*7=4200. A quick Google seems to show that to be approximately correct, 4000 watt gens tend to have a 6.5hp motor. An ST generator head like http://www.powersolutionsllc.com/5kw should last me just about forever... The idea is to have something easier to carry to camp and put on our Cub Cadet up there and have not get stolen... -Curt Date: Fri, 12 Dec 2008 20:34:15 -0600 From: "Royce Engler" Subject: Re: [MBZ] Ice storm To: Message-ID: <976bba9793c847ae9c2cc350ab423...@raet61> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Curt Raymond wrote: > Its interesting the discussion of generators as a career yesterday. > We're having an ice storm and lost power last night. I normally have > no desire for a generator but we're getting water in the basement > right now and it'd sure be nice to be able to run the sump pump. My > inverter is currently running the DSL modem and my laptop is on > battery, the woodstove makes heat and my Coleman stove (yay > whitegas!) heated water for my oatmeal but I sure would like to run > the sump pump Hurricane Ike left us without power for over a week. There were NO gennys left in Houston, or for that matter all the way up north of Dallas, for most of that week. My father-in-law in Northeast Oklahoma picked up three from a local dealer for $750 each. They are 7500 Watts, and handle the lights, refrigerator, computer, phones and some fans. They are Chinese knockoffs of Honda gensets, but ran great. We did have to fix the wiring...the low oil level shutoff was mis-wired and caused it to shut down...just bypassed it. Sold one to a guy at work, and we've used the other two on the deer lease this fall. We opened the main breaker to the main line and fed the house through a dryer outlet. Over Christmas, I will put in an A-B switch so I can feed the power back into the house wiring. It has built-in wattmeters so I can better control the load on the genny. Royce ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Ice storm
Curt Raymond wrote: > Its interesting the discussion of generators as a career yesterday. > We're having an ice storm and lost power last night. I normally have > no desire for a generator but we're getting water in the basement > right now and it'd sure be nice to be able to run the sump pump. My > inverter is currently running the DSL modem and my laptop is on > battery, the woodstove makes heat and my Coleman stove (yay > whitegas!) heated water for my oatmeal but I sure would like to run > the sump pump Hurricane Ike left us without power for over a week. There were NO gennys left in Houston, or for that matter all the way up north of Dallas, for most of that week. My father-in-law in Northeast Oklahoma picked up three from a local dealer for $750 each. They are 7500 Watts, and handle the lights, refrigerator, computer, phones and some fans. They are Chinese knockoffs of Honda gensets, but ran great. We did have to fix the wiring...the low oil level shutoff was mis-wired and caused it to shut down...just bypassed it. Sold one to a guy at work, and we've used the other two on the deer lease this fall. We opened the main breaker to the main line and fed the house through a dryer outlet. Over Christmas, I will put in an A-B switch so I can feed the power back into the house wiring. It has built-in wattmeters so I can better control the load on the genny. Royce ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Ice storm
Actually it turns out they've got a generator but no way to cook. I've loaned them my Coleman stove... Date: Fri, 12 Dec 2008 16:50:12 -0600 From: John Robbins Subject: Re: [MBZ] Ice storm To: Mercedes Discussion List Message-ID: <4942eaa4.7030...@msstate.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Curt Raymond wrote: > I just checked in with the neighbors, they're cold and using candles > and flashlights. I'm limiting the use of our electric lights so we > don't look like jerks... You could always invite them over! Will warm the house up a bit more too. Assuming you get along well with your neighbors... John ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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That was us a year and two days ago --- On Fri, Dec 12, 2008 at 3:58 PM, Curt Raymond wrote: > None of the stores have any power, there aren't any generators or 12v sump > pumps for sale... The grocery stores were open but not for anything > refridgerated, we bought some bread and canned food. They're saying we may > have to wait until Monday for power. It looks like WWIII has hit, trees and > tree branches down everywhere... > -- OK Don, KD5NRO Norman, OK "There are only three sports: bullfighting, motor racing, and mountaineering; all the rest are merely games." - Ernest Hemingway '90 300D (Rattled), '92 300D (Saber), ''97 Ply Grand Voyager (Vincent van-go) ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Ice storm
Yeah, 'could get some "free" heat 'pending on what ya feed 'em. ;<) Wilton - Original Message - From: "John Robbins" To: "Mercedes Discussion List" Sent: Friday, December 12, 2008 5:50 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Ice storm > Curt Raymond wrote: > > I just checked in with the neighbors, they're cold and using candles > > and flashlights. I'm limiting the use of our electric lights so we > > don't look like jerks... > > You could always invite them over! Will warm the house up a bit more > too. Assuming you get along well with your neighbors... > > John > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Ice storm
Curt Raymond wrote: I just checked in with the neighbors, they're cold and using candles and flashlights. I'm limiting the use of our electric lights so we don't look like jerks... You could always invite them over! Will warm the house up a bit more too. Assuming you get along well with your neighbors... John ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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I've got one, how do you think I'm getting online? Seems like its a good one too (Coleman) I got it at a computer show years ago. Other inverters I've had wouldn't run my laptop... -Curt Date: Fri, 12 Dec 2008 09:08:45 -0600Date: Fri, 12 Dec 2008 09:08:45 -0600 From: John Robbins Subject: Re: [MBZ] Ice storm To: Mercedes Discussion List Message-ID: <49427e7d.6040...@msstate.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Curt Raymond wrote: > Its interesting the discussion of generators as a career yesterday. > We're having an ice storm and lost power last night. I normally have > no desire for a generator but we're getting water in the basement > right now and it'd sure be nice to be able to run the sump pump. My > inverter is currently running the DSL modem and my laptop is on > battery, the woodstove makes heat and my Coleman stove (yay > whitegas!) heated water for my oatmeal but I sure would like to run > the sump pump You could always get a 12V power inverter. Fire up the car and you'll get standard 120V AC. John From: John Robbins Subject: Re: [MBZ] Ice storm To: Mercedes Discussion List Message-ID: <49427e7d.6040...@msstate.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Curt Raymond wrote: > Its interesting the discussion of generators as a career yesterday. > We're having an ice storm and lost power last night. I normally have > no desire for a generator but we're getting water in the basement > right now and it'd sure be nice to be able to run the sump pump. My > inverter is currently running the DSL modem and my laptop is on > battery, the woodstove makes heat and my Coleman stove (yay > whitegas!) heated water for my oatmeal but I sure would like to run > the sump pump You could always get a 12V power inverter. Fire up the car and you'll get standard 120V AC. John ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Ice storm
None of the stores have any power, there aren't any generators or 12v sump pumps for sale... The grocery stores were open but not for anything refridgerated, we bought some bread and canned food. They're saying we may have to wait until Monday for power. It looks like WWIII has hit, trees and tree branches down everywhere... Fortunately the rain quit so the water has receeded. Its getting cold they're calling for "flash freeze" tonight. We'll be okay though, I made sure all the batteries I could get my hands on are charged and I parked the 190D right in front of the house where I can easily run a line to it. I bought a 1200 watt 2 stroke generator from Amazon today. I had a $100 gift card for my 5 year anniversry at work so it ended up costing $58... Bought all my wife's Christmas presents while I was at it. Now I know how the RE crowd feels, I've got power enough but I need to manage it carefully. I just checked in with the neighbors, they're cold and using candles and flashlights. I'm limiting the use of our electric lights so we don't look like jerks... -Curt Date: Fri, 12 Dec 2008 08:19:41 -0500 From: Mitch Haley Subject: Re: [MBZ] Ice storm To: Mercedes Discussion List Message-ID: <494264ed.3050...@voyager.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Curt Raymond wrote: > Its interesting the discussion of generators as a career yesterday. We're having an ice storm and lost power last night. I normally have no desire for a generator but we're getting water in the basement right now and it'd sure be nice to be able to run the sump pump. My inverter is currently running the DSL modem and my laptop is on battery, the woodstove makes heat and my Coleman stove (yay whitegas!) heated water for my oatmeal but I sure would like to run the sump pump > > I've hauled some buckets of water but while I can keep up with the leak I can't get ahead of it. Later on if our hardware store opens I'll buy one of those drill pumps and burn out my old 12v cordless drill, I'll hook it to a motorcycle battery. > Can you buy a 12v sump pump, or are they all sold out? You've got diesel mbz batteries. Weren't you talking about buying a mini generator to take to the cabin? That should run a 1/6hp sump pump easily. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Ice storm
OK Don wrote: Great idea! Try that with your dedicated genset! I always thought that co-generation would be a good idea in the winter. Put the genset indoors, with a heat exchanger on the exhaust, and the efficiency should rival that of a good furnace. I never could convince Cathey to put the Hercules indoors though. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Great idea! Try that with your dedicated genset! On Fri, Dec 12, 2008 at 12:42 PM, Alex Chamberlain wrote: > On Fri, Dec 12, 2008 at 10:13 AM, John Robbins wrote: >> OK Don wrote: >>> >>> Wonder if I could also duct air to use the 300D's heater for a room - >>> need to duct both hot from the cabin and return to? >> >> Would probably be easier to use a heat exchanger that uses the engine >> coolant to heat another coolant loop. The second coolant loop could be run >> to your house. In your house you could use a heater core and an automotive >> HVAC blower (and housing) to heat the room. > > I can see where this is going. Sooner or later you're going to have > so much of the car in the house that you might as well park it in the > living room with the engine running and make grilled cheese sandwiches > on the exhaust manifold. > > Alex > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > -- OK Don, KD5NRO Norman, OK "There are only three sports: bullfighting, motor racing, and mountaineering; all the rest are merely games." - Ernest Hemingway '90 300D (Rattled), '92 300D (Saber), ''97 Ply Grand Voyager (Vincent van-go) ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Ice storm
On Fri, Dec 12, 2008 at 10:13 AM, John Robbins wrote: > OK Don wrote: >> >> Wonder if I could also duct air to use the 300D's heater for a room - >> need to duct both hot from the cabin and return to? > > Would probably be easier to use a heat exchanger that uses the engine > coolant to heat another coolant loop. The second coolant loop could be run > to your house. In your house you could use a heater core and an automotive > HVAC blower (and housing) to heat the room. I can see where this is going. Sooner or later you're going to have so much of the car in the house that you might as well park it in the living room with the engine running and make grilled cheese sandwiches on the exhaust manifold. Alex ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Ice storm
OK Don wrote: Wonder if I could also duct air to use the 300D's heater for a room - need to duct both hot from the cabin and return to? Would probably be easier to use a heat exchanger that uses the engine coolant to heat another coolant loop. The second coolant loop could be run to your house. In your house you could use a heater core and an automotive HVAC blower (and housing) to heat the room. John ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Exactly what I was thinking - I have one of those alternators that I need to install along with a decent sized inverter. Wonder if I could also duct air to use the 300D's heater for a room - need to duct both hot from the cabin and return to? > > Time for a Dave Meiman-inspired alternator upgrade ... > > Craig -- OK Don, KD5NRO Norman, OK "There are only three sports: bullfighting, motor racing, and mountaineering; all the rest are merely games." - Ernest Hemingway '90 300D (Rattled), '92 300D (Saber), ''97 Ply Grand Voyager (Vincent van-go) ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Ice storm
Yeah, 'thought of that, too, but don't have one. Meanwhile, it's working great, and that's what's really important. Wilton - Original Message - From: "Mitch Haley" To: "Mercedes Discussion List" Sent: Friday, December 12, 2008 11:13 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Ice storm > Wilton Strickland wrote: > > I have a "pure" sine inverter, supposedly, in the 124 to charge my mobility > > scooter. I keep wondering how close to "pure" it REALLY is. > > Where'd she hide your oscilloscope? > Mitch. > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Ice storm
On Fri, 12 Dec 2008 10:55:46 -0600 John Robbins wrote: > Alex Chamberlain wrote: > > Since Curt's 240D will probably idle all day > > long on a gallon of diesel, would that not be a good solution? He > > could run the sump pump all he needs then and have power to spare. > > Got to thinking about that and he couldn't use all 1500W continuously. > Assuming 100% efficient, 13 volt alternator output, he would need on the > order of 115 amps. I think there is a 55A installed on 240Ds? He could > run it at high idle, drain the battery a bit, and then let it keep > running to charge things back up. > > His new ranger should have an alternator big enough. Although that is a > lot more fuel. Maybe the 190D? Probably still less than 100A though. Time for a Dave Meiman-inspired alternator upgrade ... Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Ice storm
Alex Chamberlain wrote: > Since Curt's 240D will probably idle all day long on a gallon of diesel, would that not be a good solution? He could run the sump pump all he needs then and have power to spare. Got to thinking about that and he couldn't use all 1500W continuously. Assuming 100% efficient, 13 volt alternator output, he would need on the order of 115 amps. I think there is a 55A installed on 240Ds? He could run it at high idle, drain the battery a bit, and then let it keep running to charge things back up. His new ranger should have an alternator big enough. Although that is a lot more fuel. Maybe the 190D? Probably still less than 100A though. John ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Ice storm
Was it rated for the power? Inductive loads also have very high startup current requirements... Gary Hurst wrote: yeah, but don't try to plug a big ass vacuum cleaner into it. i tried it and it went very poorly. On Fri, Dec 12, 2008 at 7:08 AM, John Robbins wrote: Curt Raymond wrote: Its interesting the discussion of generators as a career yesterday. We're having an ice storm and lost power last night. I normally have no desire for a generator but we're getting water in the basement right now and it'd sure be nice to be able to run the sump pump. My inverter is currently running the DSL modem and my laptop is on battery, the woodstove makes heat and my Coleman stove (yay whitegas!) heated water for my oatmeal but I sure would like to run the sump pump You could always get a 12V power inverter. Fire up the car and you'll get standard 120V AC. John ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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yeah, but don't try to plug a big ass vacuum cleaner into it. i tried it and it went very poorly. On Fri, Dec 12, 2008 at 7:08 AM, John Robbins wrote: > Curt Raymond wrote: > >> Its interesting the discussion of generators as a career yesterday. >> We're having an ice storm and lost power last night. I normally have >> no desire for a generator but we're getting water in the basement >> right now and it'd sure be nice to be able to run the sump pump. My >> inverter is currently running the DSL modem and my laptop is on >> battery, the woodstove makes heat and my Coleman stove (yay >> whitegas!) heated water for my oatmeal but I sure would like to run >> the sump pump >> > > You could always get a 12V power inverter. Fire up the car and you'll get > standard 120V AC. > > John > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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On Fri, Dec 12, 2008 at 8:29 AM, John Robbins wrote: > Mitch Haley wrote: >> >> John Robbins wrote: >>> >>> You could always get a 12V power inverter. Fire up the car and you'll >>> get standard 120V AC. >> >> He's got 400W but it won't start the sump pump. > > You can get 1500W versions, but I wouldn't suggest the cigarette outlet for > that one ;) Inverters in that size range that I've seen usually come with alligator clips to hook directly to your battery. I think even the 400W one I have (nothing special---probably Harbor Freight quality though I think I bought it at AutoZone) came with them, alongside the cigarette lighter plug. Since Curt's 240D will probably idle all day long on a gallon of diesel, would that not be a good solution? He could run the sump pump all he needs then and have power to spare. Alex Chamberlain ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Ice storm
Mitch Haley wrote: John Robbins wrote: You could always get a 12V power inverter. Fire up the car and you'll get standard 120V AC. He's got 400W but it won't start the sump pump. You can get 1500W versions, but I wouldn't suggest the cigarette outlet for that one ;) I'm wondering how many of the inverters have a waveform that's acceptable for pump motors. Square wave sure won't cut it, what about "modified sine"? Motors could care less what the shape of the waveform is. They have a huge built in inductive filter the windings. Square wave might work, but having two or three "steps" would probably be fine. John ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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I have a "pure" sine inverter, supposedly, in the 124 to charge my mobility scooter. I keep wondering how close to "pure" it REALLY is. Wilton - Original Message - From: "Mitch Haley" To: "Mercedes Discussion List" Sent: Friday, December 12, 2008 10:56 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Ice storm > John Robbins wrote: > > You could always get a 12V power inverter. Fire up the car and you'll > > get standard 120V AC. > > He's got 400W but it won't start the sump pump. > I'm wondering how many of the inverters have a waveform that's acceptable for > pump motors. Square wave sure won't cut it, what about "modified sine"? > > Mitch. > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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On Fri, Dec 12, 2008 at 8:13 AM, Mitch Haley wrote: > Wilton Strickland wrote: >> >> I have a "pure" sine inverter, supposedly, in the 124 to charge my >> mobility >> scooter. I keep wondering how close to "pure" it REALLY is. > > Where'd she hide your oscilloscope? > Mitch. > Beat me to it! Around here a 'scope is considered as indispensible a tool for Quality Repairs as a good voltmeter and a torque wrench. Alex ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Wilton Strickland wrote: I have a "pure" sine inverter, supposedly, in the 124 to charge my mobility scooter. I keep wondering how close to "pure" it REALLY is. Where'd she hide your oscilloscope? Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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John Robbins wrote: You could always get a 12V power inverter. Fire up the car and you'll get standard 120V AC. He's got 400W but it won't start the sump pump. I'm wondering how many of the inverters have a waveform that's acceptable for pump motors. Square wave sure won't cut it, what about "modified sine"? Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Ice storm
Curt Raymond wrote: Its interesting the discussion of generators as a career yesterday. We're having an ice storm and lost power last night. I normally have no desire for a generator but we're getting water in the basement right now and it'd sure be nice to be able to run the sump pump. My inverter is currently running the DSL modem and my laptop is on battery, the woodstove makes heat and my Coleman stove (yay whitegas!) heated water for my oatmeal but I sure would like to run the sump pump You could always get a 12V power inverter. Fire up the car and you'll get standard 120V AC. John ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Ice storm
Curt Raymond wrote: Its interesting the discussion of generators as a career yesterday. We're having an ice storm and lost power last night. I normally have no desire for a generator but we're getting water in the basement right now and it'd sure be nice to be able to run the sump pump. My inverter is currently running the DSL modem and my laptop is on battery, the woodstove makes heat and my Coleman stove (yay whitegas!) heated water for my oatmeal but I sure would like to run the sump pump I've hauled some buckets of water but while I can keep up with the leak I can't get ahead of it. Later on if our hardware store opens I'll buy one of those drill pumps and burn out my old 12v cordless drill, I'll hook it to a motorcycle battery. Can you buy a 12v sump pump, or are they all sold out? You've got diesel mbz batteries. Weren't you talking about buying a mini generator to take to the cabin? That should run a 1/6hp sump pump easily. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Ice storm
Its interesting the discussion of generators as a career yesterday. We're having an ice storm and lost power last night. I normally have no desire for a generator but we're getting water in the basement right now and it'd sure be nice to be able to run the sump pump. My inverter is currently running the DSL modem and my laptop is on battery, the woodstove makes heat and my Coleman stove (yay whitegas!) heated water for my oatmeal but I sure would like to run the sump pump I've hauled some buckets of water but while I can keep up with the leak I can't get ahead of it. Later on if our hardware store opens I'll buy one of those drill pumps and burn out my old 12v cordless drill, I'll hook it to a motorcycle battery. -Curt ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
