Re: [MBZ] MB 1977 300D Engine Trouble shooting

2006-02-25 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin

sounds like you might have lost the rings on one of the pistons.

Tom Scordato wrote:

Please need the groups help.  Given:  car has 270K miles.  Valves due for 
adjustment but not over due.  Religious filter changes, Mobil 1 Synth. 
Timing chain stretch unknown, I have never checked it in 100K miles (I know 
a no no)


Was driving on interstate.  Heard a  sound in engine area for about 5 
seconds.  Imediately noticed power drop off on hills and alot more smoke 
from exhaust, white blueish.  Once I pulled over idle was rough, allot of 
blue smoke.  I suspect valve trouble.  No bubbles in the open radiator.  Car 
runs starts but is very rough and no power at all on hills


Action items:  Ordered diesel compression tester and 18mm glow plug adapter. 
Also will pull valve cover check for valves clearance and timing chain 
degrees and stretch.  If a valve rod is thrown or bent I may find out by 
doing that.  I have a feeling it might be bad, but will be hopeful


Any more advise/war stories the list could share with me?  Regards Tom 
Scordato

1979 240D
1977 300D 




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Re: [MBZ] MB 1977 300D Engine Trouble shooting

2006-02-25 Thread OK Don
If the chain jumped a tooth, the valves willbe hitting the pistons -
there will be no doubt.

On 2/24/06, Peter Frederick [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Bet your chain jumped a tooth -- check the timing AT ONCE.

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[MBZ] MB 1977 300D Engine Trouble shooting

2006-02-24 Thread Tom Scordato
Please need the groups help.  Given:  car has 270K miles.  Valves due for 
adjustment but not over due.  Religious filter changes, Mobil 1 Synth. 
Timing chain stretch unknown, I have never checked it in 100K miles (I know 
a no no)


Was driving on interstate.  Heard a  sound in engine area for about 5 
seconds.  Imediately noticed power drop off on hills and alot more smoke 
from exhaust, white blueish.  Once I pulled over idle was rough, allot of 
blue smoke.  I suspect valve trouble.  No bubbles in the open radiator.  Car 
runs starts but is very rough and no power at all on hills


Action items:  Ordered diesel compression tester and 18mm glow plug adapter. 
Also will pull valve cover check for valves clearance and timing chain 
degrees and stretch.  If a valve rod is thrown or bent I may find out by 
doing that.  I have a feeling it might be bad, but will be hopeful


Any more advise/war stories the list could share with me?  Regards Tom 
Scordato

1979 240D
1977 300D 






Re: [MBZ] MB 1977 300D Engine Trouble shooting

2006-02-24 Thread Jim Cathey

Was driving on interstate.  Heard a  sound in engine area for about 5
seconds.  Imediately noticed power drop off on hills and alot more 
smoke
from exhaust, white blueish.  Once I pulled over idle was rough, allot 
of
blue smoke.  I suspect valve trouble.  No bubbles in the open 
radiator.  Car

runs starts but is very rough and no power at all on hills


EGR?  Does this car have one?

-- Jim




Re: [MBZ] MB 1977 300D Engine Trouble shooting

2006-02-24 Thread Tom Scordato

Jim asked EGR?  Does this car have one?

No I do not believe it does,  Naturaly asperated and not much in pollution 
control
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Was driving on interstate.  Heard a  sound in engine area for about 5
seconds.  Imediately noticed power drop off on hills and alot more
smoke
from exhaust, white blueish.  Once I pulled over idle was rough, allot
of
blue smoke.  I suspect valve trouble.  No bubbles in the open
radiator.  Car
runs starts but is very rough and no power at all on hills


EGR?  Does this car have one?

-- Jim


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Re: [MBZ] MB 1977 300D Engine Trouble shooting

2006-02-24 Thread Peter Frederick

Bet your chain jumped a tooth -- check the timing AT ONCE.

With luck, you will only need to do a valve job (you're due anyway at 
that milage) and replace the chain.


Peter