Re: [MBZ] MB Classic
...Found this on the MB Classic website .. Speaking of MB Classic, the new issue on the newsstand contains a picture article on 600 hydraulic components. Terrifying. It show contains a pic of the master window controller on the driver's door. $2500 Euros. A bargain compared to the heater control panel which I was told costs about ten grand. Apparently squirting it with contact cleaner doesn't help much. The article has a few things to say about the hydraulic system in general, stating that if there are no leaks, system pressure is expected to hold for at least several years without leakdown. No wonder Hugh Hefner has put his two 600s on the market. RLE -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20091012/ea080ce1/attachment.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] MB Classic
By this point Hugh Hefner is probably an expert on hydraulics and leak down of pressurized components. --R relng...@aol.com wrote: ...Found this on the MB Classic website .. Speaking of MB Classic, the new issue on the newsstand contains a picture article on 600 hydraulic components. Terrifying. It show contains a pic of the master window controller on the driver's door. $2500 Euros. A bargain compared to the heater control panel which I was told costs about ten grand. Apparently squirting it with contact cleaner doesn't help much. The article has a few things to say about the hydraulic system in general, stating that if there are no leaks, system pressure is expected to hold for at least several years without leakdown. No wonder Hugh Hefner has put his two 600s on the market. RLE -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20091012/ea080ce1/attachment.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20091012/1a170a88/attachment.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] MB Classic
MB Classic, never heard of it. relng...@aol.com wrote: While paging through MB Classic at BN today, I came across a multipage picture article about the 126. Talks about what goes wrong, where the rust is, which one to buy, which has the most value, which engines are most popular with their advice. There is a big table showing serial numbers vs. years of production. There are also a few words about reimporting cars to Germany and that diesel 126s have no market there. They like the 3.0 and 5.6 engines best. It's well worth the trip to BN to read this magazine, free of course. RLE ** Make your summer sizzle with fast and easy recipes for the grill. (http://food.aol.com/grilling?ncid=emlcntusfood0005) -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20090625/d8188415/attachment.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.375 / Virus Database: 270.12.91/2201 - Release Date: 06/25/09 06:22:00 -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 95 E300, 92 500SEL, 92 300SD, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 300D, 91 300E, 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL x2, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 85 190D, 84 190D, 84 300D euro manny, 81 240D, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, http://www.okiebenz.com -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20090626/995e37c1/attachment.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] MB Classic
Are you serious? Prolly my favorite car mag. You used to be able to get a subscription, but they stopped distributing it to individuals in the US, so now you have to get it for, like $8/issue at BN. But it's great. Chris --- On Fri, 6/26/09, Kaleb C. Striplin ka...@striplin.net wrote: From: Kaleb C. Striplin ka...@striplin.net Subject: Re: [MBZ] MB Classic To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Date: Friday, June 26, 2009, 9:47 AM MB Classic, never heard of it. relng...@aol.com wrote: While paging through MB Classic at BN today, I came across a multipage picture article about the 126. Talks about what goes wrong, where the rust is, which one to buy, which has the most value, which engines are most popular with their advice. There is a big table showing serial numbers vs. years of production. There are also a few words about reimporting cars to Germany and that diesel 126s have no market there. They like the 3.0 and 5.6 engines best. It's well worth the trip to BN to read this magazine, free of course. RLE ** Make your summer sizzle with fast and easy recipes for the grill. (http://food.aol.com/grilling?ncid=emlcntusfood0005) -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20090625/d8188415/attachment.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.375 / Virus Database: 270.12.91/2201 - Release Date: 06/25/09 06:22:00 -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 95 E300, 92 500SEL, 92 300SD, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 300D, 91 300E, 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL x2, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 85 190D, 84 190D, 84 300D euro manny, 81 240D, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, http://www.okiebenz.com -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20090626/995e37c1/attachment.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] MB Classic
On Fri, 26 Jun 2009 09:27:05 -0700 (PDT) Christopher McCann xtofer1...@yahoo.com wrote: Are you serious? Prolly my favorite car mag. You used to be able to get a subscription, but they stopped distributing it to individuals in the US, so now you have to get it for, like $8/issue at BN. But it's great. So, what in the world is BN? Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] MB Classic
Barnes Noble http://www.worldcarfans.com/104033110842/new-mb-classic-magazine-is-launched http://www.germancarzone.com/older-mbs-classics/22683-mb-classic-mercedes-benz-strich-8s.html http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/RARE-MERCEDES-BENZ-CLASSIC-MAGAZINE-PAGODA-SL-230-280_W0QQitemZ220439955086QQcmdZViewItemQQimsxZ20090623?IMSfp=TL090623154002r21199 Chris 1985 300SD 243K miles --- On Fri, 6/26/09, Craig McCluskey diese...@pisquared.net wrote: From: Craig McCluskey diese...@pisquared.net Subject: Re: [MBZ] MB Classic To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Date: Friday, June 26, 2009, 1:00 PM On Fri, 26 Jun 2009 09:27:05 -0700 (PDT) Christopher McCann xtofer1...@yahoo.com wrote: Are you serious? Prolly my favorite car mag. You used to be able to get a subscription, but they stopped distributing it to individuals in the US, so now you have to get it for, like $8/issue at BN. But it's great. So, what in the world is BN? Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] MB Classic
I made the trip at lunchtime and they were out of them. --R Christopher McCann wrote: Are you serious? Prolly my favorite car mag. You used to be able to get a subscription, but they stopped distributing it to individuals in the US, so now you have to get it for, like $8/issue at BN. But it's great. Chris --- On Fri, 6/26/09, Kaleb C. Striplin ka...@striplin.net wrote: From: Kaleb C. Striplin ka...@striplin.net Subject: Re: [MBZ] MB Classic To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Date: Friday, June 26, 2009, 9:47 AM MB Classic, never heard of it. relng...@aol.com wrote: While paging through MB Classic at BN today, I came across a multipage picture article about the 126. Talks about what goes wrong, where the rust is, which one to buy, which has the most value, which engines are most popular with their advice. There is a big table showing serial numbers vs. years of production. There are also a few words about reimporting cars to Germany and that diesel 126s have no market there. They like the 3.0 and 5.6 engines best. It's well worth the trip to BN to read this magazine, free of course. RLE ** Make your summer sizzle with fast and easy recipes for the grill. (http://food.aol.com/grilling?ncid=emlcntusfood0005) -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20090625/d8188415/attachment.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.375 / Virus Database: 270.12.91/2201 - Release Date: 06/25/09 06:22:00 -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 95 E300, 92 500SEL, 92 300SD, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 300D, 91 300E, 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL x2, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 85 190D, 84 190D, 84 300D euro manny, 81 240D, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, http://www.okiebenz.com -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20090626/995e37c1/attachment.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20090626/2ec1b908/attachment.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] MB Classic
MB Classic, never heard of it Somehow, I don't picture you spending much time in a book store. RLE ** Make your summer sizzle with fast and easy recipes for the grill. (http://food.aol.com/grilling?ncid=emlcntusfood0005) -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20090626/1da03323/attachment.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] MB Classic
While paging through MB Classic at BN today, I came across a multipage picture article about the 126. Talks about what goes wrong, where the rust is, which one to buy, which has the most value, which engines are most popular with their advice. There is a big table showing serial numbers vs. years of production. There are also a few words about reimporting cars to Germany and that diesel 126s have no market there. They like the 3.0 and 5.6 engines best. It's well worth the trip to BN to read this magazine, free of course. RLE ** Make your summer sizzle with fast and easy recipes for the grill. (http://food.aol.com/grilling?ncid=emlcntusfood0005) -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20090625/d8188415/attachment.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] MB Classic Certificate
So, where and how do you get this email of the build record? -- OK Don, KD5NRO Norman, OK Even if you're on the right track, you'll get run over if you just sit there. Will Rogers '90 300D, '87 300SDL, '81 240D, '78 450SLC, '97 Ply Grand Voyager
Re: [MBZ] MB Classic Certificate
Don - its been a while since I did it, but I'd start with the MBUSA/Classic folks. Either web or call Irvine - Werner '83SD, '90D - Original Message - From: OK Don [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Friday, January 05, 2007 9:58 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] MB Classic Certificate So, where and how do you get this email of the build record? -- OK Don, KD5NRO Norman, OK Even if you're on the right track, you'll get run over if you just sit there. Will Rogers '90 300D, '87 300SDL, '81 240D, '78 450SLC, '97 Ply Grand Voyager
Re: [MBZ] MB Classic Certificate
Not sure what a build record is. I do have a paper copy of the factory data card. If this is the same as the build record I wonder whether they translate the various codes relating to color, engine and trans. no., options, etc. or is it just a serious of puzzling numbers in litttle boxes? On 1/4/07, Werner Fehlauer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Andrew - I don't know of any competitor to D-C that would have access to the build records. All I know is that in the past, I have received almost all the certificate data in plain text form via Email at no cost, from MBUSA. The certificate from the Classic Center is very suitable for framing, as opposed to an ordinary Email printout! Werner - Original Message - From: andrew strasfogel [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Thursday, January 04, 2007 12:30 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] MB Classic Certificate I suppose one could always try to but it cheaper from a competitor... NOT! I may order one before they realize their monopoly power to set the price just about anywhere they wanted to... ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] MB Classic Certificate
Andrew - when I used the tem build record, I meant the list of all the numbers associated with that particular car, including serial numbers, option codes, etc. And yes, they did decode the option numbers. Most of this data is in the original owner's manual insert, but that may be lost when the car goes though several owners. Werner - Original Message - From: andrew strasfogel [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Friday, January 05, 2007 10:45 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] MB Classic Certificate Not sure what a build record is. I do have a paper copy of the factory data card. If this is the same as the build record I wonder whether they translate the various codes relating to color, engine and trans. no., options, etc. or is it just a serious of puzzling numbers in litttle boxes?
Re: [MBZ] MB Classic Certificate
Mine was a European delivery to Belgium in Sept. 1969, so there was no metal US-version dealer ID plate to go with the owner's manual, and the data card was long gone (as was the fitted luggage - drat!). On 1/5/07, Werner Fehlauer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Andrew - when I used the tem build record, I meant the list of all the numbers associated with that particular car, including serial numbers, option codes, etc. And yes, they did decode the option numbers. Most of this data is in the original owner's manual insert, but that may be lost when the car goes though several owners. Werner - Original Message - From: andrew strasfogel [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Friday, January 05, 2007 10:45 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] MB Classic Certificate Not sure what a build record is. I do have a paper copy of the factory data card. If this is the same as the build record I wonder whether they translate the various codes relating to color, engine and trans. no., options, etc. or is it just a serious of puzzling numbers in litttle boxes? ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] MB Classic Certificate
Anybody ever seen what these certificates look like? http://www.mbusa.com/heritage/certificates.do Would be really cool to have one, but I'm not spending $125 on it anytime soon... John '79 300SD
Re: [MBZ] MB Classic Certificate
John - yes, those are very ornate certificates, but IMO a bit steep in price. I've seen them in ads, and also at the Classic Center in Irvine and at Montvale HQ. A lot of the info that they put on the certificate is available a considerably less cost, just not as pretty - like the original build sheets, etc., and via E-mail. Werner '83SD (soon to be a classic, when the 2008 cars are offered) - Original Message - From: John Robbins [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Thursday, January 04, 2007 11:23 AM Subject: [MBZ] MB Classic Certificate Anybody ever seen what these certificates look like? http://www.mbusa.com/heritage/certificates.do Would be really cool to have one, but I'm not spending $125 on it anytime soon... John '79 300SD ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] MB Classic Certificate
I suppose one could always try to but it cheaper from a competitor... NOT! I may order one before they realize their monopoly power to set the price just about anywhere they wanted to... On 1/4/07, Werner Fehlauer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: John - yes, those are very ornate certificates, but IMO a bit steep in price. I've seen them in ads, and also at the Classic Center in Irvine and at Montvale HQ. A lot of the info that they put on the certificate is available a considerably less cost, just not as pretty - like the original build sheets, etc., and via E-mail. Werner '83SD (soon to be a classic, when the 2008 cars are offered) - Original Message - From: John Robbins [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Thursday, January 04, 2007 11:23 AM Subject: [MBZ] MB Classic Certificate Anybody ever seen what these certificates look like? http://www.mbusa.com/heritage/certificates.do Would be really cool to have one, but I'm not spending $125 on it anytime soon... John '79 300SD ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] MB Classic Certificate
Andrew - I don't know of any competitor to D-C that would have access to the build records. All I know is that in the past, I have received almost all the certificate data in plain text form via Email at no cost, from MBUSA. The certificate from the Classic Center is very suitable for framing, as opposed to an ordinary Email printout! Werner - Original Message - From: andrew strasfogel [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Thursday, January 04, 2007 12:30 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] MB Classic Certificate I suppose one could always try to but it cheaper from a competitor... NOT! I may order one before they realize their monopoly power to set the price just about anywhere they wanted to...
Re: [MBZ] MB Classic Magazine
unfortunately, that's the last issue in English. I am ASSUMING that they will
continue to print it in German.
Chris
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Here's a link to a MB Classic magazine published byMB. You may need to
cut/paste the url in pieces to get it to work - Sorry.
Good luck -
Sincerely,
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I'm getting ice cold air on the passenger side (both the passenger side
center vent and the outboard one) and ROASTING hot air (I'd guess 30
above ambient) on the driver side (both the center and the outboard)...
It does this even when the temps on both sides are punched down to LO
I'm betting duovalve. How hard and how much? (its a E300td) I'e read a
snip or two here and there about relubing it, but is this a permanent fix
or just a band-aid?
If it's any help I can pull the sensor values tomorrow morning... I'm sure
everything is WAY hot after ~2 hrs driving...
Thanks Much
-j.
1999 E300td (199k mi +1k mi/wk)
1985 300Dt (220k mi)
1984 300SD (RIP @246k mi)
[MBZ] MB Classic Magazine
http://www.mercedes-benz.com/content/mbcom/international/
international_website/en/com/international_home/home/heritage_new/multimedia/classic_magazine_01.html
Here's a link to a MB Classic magazine published byMB. You may need to
cut/paste the url in pieces to get it to work - Sorry.
Good luck -
Sincerely,
Larry T ('74 911, '67 MGB, 91 300D Turbo)
A Blood Test for your oil - www.youroil.net
For Test Results http://members.rennlist.com/oil
Weber Carb Stuff http://members.rennlist.com/webercarbs
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