Re: [MBZ] MB is making...

[Jaime Kopchinski via Mercedes]

Start-stop has been around for years in lots of different cars in the US,
including Mercedes.

As for the Nissian/Mercedes engine link, this is also old news.  Check this
out:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Infiniti_Q50

The M274 is used in lots of Mercedes right now, and its really excellent.

Jaime


On Wed, Dec 14, 2016 at 3:56 PM, Mountain Man via Mercedes <
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> Someone told me about a new 2017 Nissan/Mercedes.  The Nissan is made
> in England and 2017 is US debut but has been in UK and Europe since
> 2013 and 2016.  The interesting "new" system is the engine which shuts
> down whenever the car stops and then starts up again when the break
> petal is released.  Is this a "new" system or has this system been
> around for a while?  The Nissan car has a Mercedes 7-speed
> transmission which sounds interesting also?  The engine on / off seems
> nice for emissions but maybe? difficult for quick start from stop?
> okie-benz content: Are there Mercedes cars with this system?
> tin-man-mao
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Re: [MBZ] MB is making...

[Curt Raymond via Mercedes]

I believe the Pius Prius has done this for years as well. It reminds me of how 
golf carts work...

Curt

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  On Wed, Dec 14, 2016 at 9:59 PM, Max Dillon via 
Mercedes wrote:   I think Mercedes has offered that 
engine-off-at-stop in Yurp for years, I vaguely recall driving a rental in 
Italy that did that, not sure if it was Mercedes or some other marque.

Somebody posted an article here about current or next generation Mercedes 
engines.  One engine has a starter / alternator / regenerative braking / 
electric motor boost device.  All those features combined in one device.  All 
this in the name of carbon output reduction.  I don't remember what they called 
it, but I'm sure the bill for replacement is more than what I would pay for a 
used Mercedes.
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On December 14, 2016 6:45:11 PM EST, "Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes" 
 wrote:
>The engine stopping thing has been around a while on GM and Chrysler
>vehicles, probably ford too
>
>Sent from my iPhone
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>> On Dec 14, 2016, at 2:56 PM, Mountain Man via Mercedes
> wrote:
>> 
>> Someone told me about a new 2017 Nissan/Mercedes.  The Nissan is made
>> in England and 2017 is US debut but has been in UK and Europe since
>> 2013 and 2016.  The interesting "new" system is the engine which
>shuts
>> down whenever the car stops and then starts up again when the break
>> petal is released.  Is this a "new" system or has this system been
>> around for a while?  The Nissan car has a Mercedes 7-speed
>> transmission which sounds interesting also?  The engine on / off
>seems
>> nice for emissions but maybe? difficult for quick start from stop?
>> okie-benz content: Are there Mercedes cars with this system?
>> tin-man-mao
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Re: [MBZ] MB is making...

[Darren Marshall via Mercedes]

My 911 did the same, I think it's some kind of eco mode designed to save fuel.

Darren

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> On Dec 14, 2016, at 9:53 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> I do the same thing at meetings.
> 
> On Wed, Dec 14, 2016 at 10:10 PM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> 
>> I noticed this on some Benzes a coupla years ago when stopped next to them
>> at lights.  Engine dies after a few seconds then starts up in a coupla
>> seconds when the gas petal is pushed.   i recall a GLK and maybe a
>> Cheep-klasse.
>> 
>> What a horrific concept.
>> 
>> --FT
>> 
>> 
>>> On 12/14/16 9:59 PM, Max Dillon via Mercedes wrote:
>>> 
>>> I think Mercedes has offered that engine-off-at-stop in Yurp for years, I
>>> vaguely recall driving a rental in Italy that did that, not sure if it was
>>> Mercedes or some other marque.
>>> 
>>> Somebody posted an article here about current or next generation Mercedes
>>> engines.  One engine has a starter / alternator / regenerative braking /
>>> electric motor boost device.  All those features combined in one device.
>>> All this in the name of carbon output reduction.  I don't remember what
>>> they called it, but I'm sure the bill for replacement is more than what I
>>> would pay for a used Mercedes.
>>> 
>> 
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>> Winston Churchill:
>> “Never give in--never, never, never, never, in nothing great or small,
>> large or petty,
>> never give in except to convictions of honor and good sense.
>> Never yield to force; never yield to the apparently overwhelming might of
>> the enemy.”
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Re: [MBZ] MB is making...

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

I do the same thing at meetings.

On Wed, Dec 14, 2016 at 10:10 PM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> I noticed this on some Benzes a coupla years ago when stopped next to them
> at lights.  Engine dies after a few seconds then starts up in a coupla
> seconds when the gas petal is pushed.   i recall a GLK and maybe a
> Cheep-klasse.
>
> What a horrific concept.
>
> --FT
>
>
> On 12/14/16 9:59 PM, Max Dillon via Mercedes wrote:
>
>> I think Mercedes has offered that engine-off-at-stop in Yurp for years, I
>> vaguely recall driving a rental in Italy that did that, not sure if it was
>> Mercedes or some other marque.
>>
>> Somebody posted an article here about current or next generation Mercedes
>> engines.  One engine has a starter / alternator / regenerative braking /
>> electric motor boost device.  All those features combined in one device.
>> All this in the name of carbon output reduction.  I don't remember what
>> they called it, but I'm sure the bill for replacement is more than what I
>> would pay for a used Mercedes.
>>
>
> --
> --FT
> Winston Churchill:
> “Never give in--never, never, never, never, in nothing great or small,
> large or petty,
> never give in except to convictions of honor and good sense.
> Never yield to force; never yield to the apparently overwhelming might of
> the enemy.”
>
>
>
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Re: [MBZ] MB is making...

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

I noticed this on some Benzes a coupla years ago when stopped next to 
them at lights.  Engine dies after a few seconds then starts up in a 
coupla seconds when the gas petal is pushed.   i recall a GLK and maybe 
a Cheep-klasse.


What a horrific concept.

--FT


On 12/14/16 9:59 PM, Max Dillon via Mercedes wrote:

I think Mercedes has offered that engine-off-at-stop in Yurp for years, I 
vaguely recall driving a rental in Italy that did that, not sure if it was 
Mercedes or some other marque.

Somebody posted an article here about current or next generation Mercedes 
engines.  One engine has a starter / alternator / regenerative braking / 
electric motor boost device.  All those features combined in one device.  All 
this in the name of carbon output reduction.  I don't remember what they called 
it, but I'm sure the bill for replacement is more than what I would pay for a 
used Mercedes.


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“Never give in--never, never, never, never, in nothing great or small, large or 
petty,
never give in except to convictions of honor and good sense.
Never yield to force; never yield to the apparently overwhelming might of the 
enemy.”


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Re: [MBZ] MB is making...

[Max Dillon via Mercedes]

I think Mercedes has offered that engine-off-at-stop in Yurp for years, I 
vaguely recall driving a rental in Italy that did that, not sure if it was 
Mercedes or some other marque.

Somebody posted an article here about current or next generation Mercedes 
engines.  One engine has a starter / alternator / regenerative braking / 
electric motor boost device.  All those features combined in one device.  All 
this in the name of carbon output reduction.  I don't remember what they called 
it, but I'm sure the bill for replacement is more than what I would pay for a 
used Mercedes.
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Charleston SC
'87 300TD
'95 E300

On December 14, 2016 6:45:11 PM EST, "Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes" 
 wrote:
>The engine stopping thing has been around a while on GM and Chrysler
>vehicles, probably ford too
>
>Sent from my iPhone
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>> On Dec 14, 2016, at 2:56 PM, Mountain Man via Mercedes
> wrote:
>> 
>> Someone told me about a new 2017 Nissan/Mercedes.  The Nissan is made
>> in England and 2017 is US debut but has been in UK and Europe since
>> 2013 and 2016.  The interesting "new" system is the engine which
>shuts
>> down whenever the car stops and then starts up again when the break
>> petal is released.  Is this a "new" system or has this system been
>> around for a while?  The Nissan car has a Mercedes 7-speed
>> transmission which sounds interesting also?  The engine on / off
>seems
>> nice for emissions but maybe? difficult for quick start from stop?
>> okie-benz content: Are there Mercedes cars with this system?
>> tin-man-mao
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Re: [MBZ] MB is making...

[Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes]

The engine stopping thing has been around a while on GM and Chrysler vehicles, 
probably ford too

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> On Dec 14, 2016, at 2:56 PM, Mountain Man via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Someone told me about a new 2017 Nissan/Mercedes.  The Nissan is made
> in England and 2017 is US debut but has been in UK and Europe since
> 2013 and 2016.  The interesting "new" system is the engine which shuts
> down whenever the car stops and then starts up again when the break
> petal is released.  Is this a "new" system or has this system been
> around for a while?  The Nissan car has a Mercedes 7-speed
> transmission which sounds interesting also?  The engine on / off seems
> nice for emissions but maybe? difficult for quick start from stop?
> okie-benz content: Are there Mercedes cars with this system?
> tin-man-mao
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Re: [MBZ] MB is making...

[Dan--- via Mercedes]

Not new.

I drove a Jeep at the 2015 Chowdah Q that did this.  You come to a stop, after 
a few seconds the engine shuts off. As soon as you put your foot on the gas to 
take off, the engine cranks and away you go.

Made me crazy. I hated it, but it worked. I could only think that I hoped they 
re-engineered the starter since it's going to get a major workout.

Dan

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> On Dec 14, 2016, at 3:56 PM, Mountain Man via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Someone told me about a new 2017 Nissan/Mercedes.  The Nissan is made
> in England and 2017 is US debut but has been in UK and Europe since
> 2013 and 2016.  The interesting "new" system is the engine which shuts
> down whenever the car stops and then starts up again when the break
> petal is released.  Is this a "new" system or has this system been
> around for a while?  The Nissan car has a Mercedes 7-speed
> transmission which sounds interesting also?  The engine on / off seems
> nice for emissions but maybe? difficult for quick start from stop?
> okie-benz content: Are there Mercedes cars with this system?
> tin-man-mao
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[Mountain Man via Mercedes]

Someone told me about a new 2017 Nissan/Mercedes.  The Nissan is made
in England and 2017 is US debut but has been in UK and Europe since
2013 and 2016.  The interesting "new" system is the engine which shuts
down whenever the car stops and then starts up again when the break
petal is released.  Is this a "new" system or has this system been
around for a while?  The Nissan car has a Mercedes 7-speed
transmission which sounds interesting also?  The engine on / off seems
nice for emissions but maybe? difficult for quick start from stop?
okie-benz content: Are there Mercedes cars with this system?
tin-man-mao

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