Re: [MBZ] ML Towing
14.89/gallon since I bought it. It’s gotten as high as 19/gallon but the majority of the driving is surface streets. -D > On Jun 2, 2020, at 8:19 AM, Mitchell Haley EA via Mercedes > wrote: > > Mine's a 350. Should be called a 370. > What mpg does a 500 get, 14-16 or 16-18? > Mitch. > > On Tue, June 2, 2020 6:35 am, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote: >> ML320 or ML500? Mine's an ML500. >> > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] ML Towing
Mine's a 350. Should be called a 370. What mpg does a 500 get, 14-16 or 16-18? Mitch. On Tue, June 2, 2020 6:35 am, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote: > ML320 or ML500? Mine's an ML500. > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] ML Towing
ML320 or ML500? Mine’s an ML500. -D > On Jun 1, 2020, at 10:19 PM, Mitchell Haley EA via Mercedes > wrote: > > On Mon, June 1, 2020 8:35 pm, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote: >> Didn't seem to affect fuel economy, >> either. It still sucked. > > I get 18-20mpg in local rural driving, my best ever fill was driving to > Grand Rapids last year to pick up a clothes washer, 20.6mpg. > Driving to Cleveland and back with the tow dolly to pick up a car the week > after I bought the ML, I got about 19.5 with the cruise set at 65mph. > > Mitch. > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] ML Towing
On Mon, June 1, 2020 8:35 pm, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote: > Didn't seem to affect fuel economy, > either. It still sucked. I get 18-20mpg in local rural driving, my best ever fill was driving to Grand Rapids last year to pick up a clothes washer, 20.6mpg. Driving to Cleveland and back with the tow dolly to pick up a car the week after I bought the ML, I got about 19.5 with the cruise set at 65mph. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] ML Towing
W163 is rated at 5000lb by MBUSA, I don't know what the international rating is. Curt's hitch is rated conservatively at 3500lb. Draw-tite's hitch is rated at 5000lb. There doesn't seem to be any difference in the hitches, the Draw-tite comes with a couple of angle brackets which you're supposed to bolt to the rear crossmember and the longitudinal frame rails of the truck. AFAIK the 5000lb factory tow package doesn't have those frame reinforcements, but I could be wrong about that. I bought a Curt, and don't worry about hauling a 3000lb car on a 400lb dolly with no brakes. An 18' 7000lb trailer probably weighs 1800-2000lb. Add a 4000lb car and you're getting up there in weight. A 4800lb ML is kinda short wheelbase for a tow vehicle. I'd get a bit worried when the trailer starts to outweigh it. Any brake controller worth installing will have an inertia sensor and proportion the trailer brake force based on how hard the driver is braking. Mitch. On Mon, June 1, 2020 8:20 pm, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes wrote: > So basically you can put on a hitch (there are 3000 and > 5000lb versions) and wire a light connector into the tail lights and > you're good with Bob as your uncle. > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] ML Towing
When I needed to add trailer wiring to my volvo, I got a kit from eTrailer.com. Very easy, pre-wired harness and powered converter that plugs right into the stock taillight harness connections. No cutting or splicing wire. I'll never do it any other way again. Allan Dan Penoff via Mercedes writes: > There’s a really good thread on the Banzworld M163/4 forum about > wiring in trailer lighting on the ML using a cheap controller and > picking up the necessary connections i the left rear quarter. > > I did it on my ML500, took about 15 minutes to do and it works great. > > I have a 2” receiver on the ML that was on it when I got it. Haven’t towed > anything substantial yet, only a U-Haul trailer, but it didn’t seem to have > any issues with it. Didn’t seem to affect fuel economy, either. It still > sucked. > > -D ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] ML Towing
There’s a really good thread on the Banzworld M163/4 forum about wiring in trailer lighting on the ML using a cheap controller and picking up the necessary connections i the left rear quarter. I did it on my ML500, took about 15 minutes to do and it works great. I have a 2” receiver on the ML that was on it when I got it. Haven’t towed anything substantial yet, only a U-Haul trailer, but it didn’t seem to have any issues with it. Didn’t seem to affect fuel economy, either. It still sucked. -D > On Jun 1, 2020, at 8:20 PM, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes > wrote: > > There are guys on the ML FB group who tow all kinds of stuff with 163s > including trailer/car rigs. The 163 doesn’t have the nannies that get unhappy > with towing, 164s want a $2000 nanny setup to make the other nannies happy. > So basically you can put on a hitch (there are 3000 and 5000lb versions) and > wire a light connector into the tail lights and you’re good with Bob as your > uncle. > > I put a hitch on the fmr wife’s 164 ML for a bike rack, that was easy enough, > but to actually tow was a big deal with the aforementioned cost. > > This 99 ML320 has a hitch on it and a connector wired up, when I get the > tranny sorted it could be a tow car I guess. Not sure yet what version hitch > it has, I should look. The 5k version has these extra frame braces at the > ends. I think all the holes are already drilled in the frame. The 05 ML500 > will get one when I get the title sorted out. > > --FT > Sent from iPhone > >> On Jun 1, 2020, at 8:08 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes >> wrote: >> >> Do any of you guys who have ML's do any towing with it? What can they tow? >> Could one pull a 18' car trailer with, say, and 210 or something similar on >> it? What do you have to do to get trailer wiring/trailer brake controller >> hooked up to one of these? Just curious. >> >> >> ___ >> http://www.okiebenz.com >> >> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >> >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >> > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] ML Towing brake controller
Oh and I put a brake controller on my truck, it is some kind of accelerometer deal I guess, it was kind of a pain to wire up, wires to the battery then to the controller and back to the big plug. I guess the same thing would work on the ML, it’s nothing special. My suburban has the trailer package with a connector to plug into the controller, you can move the controller between vehicles and just plug it in. --FT Sent from iPhone > On Jun 1, 2020, at 8:08 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes > wrote: > > Do any of you guys who have ML's do any towing with it? What can they tow? > Could one pull a 18' car trailer with, say, and 210 or something similar on > it? What do you have to do to get trailer wiring/trailer brake controller > hooked up to one of these? Just curious. > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] ML Towing
There are guys on the ML FB group who tow all kinds of stuff with 163s including trailer/car rigs. The 163 doesn’t have the nannies that get unhappy with towing, 164s want a $2000 nanny setup to make the other nannies happy. So basically you can put on a hitch (there are 3000 and 5000lb versions) and wire a light connector into the tail lights and you’re good with Bob as your uncle. I put a hitch on the fmr wife’s 164 ML for a bike rack, that was easy enough, but to actually tow was a big deal with the aforementioned cost. This 99 ML320 has a hitch on it and a connector wired up, when I get the tranny sorted it could be a tow car I guess. Not sure yet what version hitch it has, I should look. The 5k version has these extra frame braces at the ends. I think all the holes are already drilled in the frame. The 05 ML500 will get one when I get the title sorted out. --FT Sent from iPhone > On Jun 1, 2020, at 8:08 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes > wrote: > > Do any of you guys who have ML's do any towing with it? What can they tow? > Could one pull a 18' car trailer with, say, and 210 or something similar on > it? What do you have to do to get trailer wiring/trailer brake controller > hooked up to one of these? Just curious. > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] ML Towing
Do any of you guys who have ML's do any towing with it? What can they tow? Could one pull a 18' car trailer with, say, and 210 or something similar on it? What do you have to do to get trailer wiring/trailer brake controller hooked up to one of these? Just curious. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] ML towing
...I've seen a ML diesel pull a W111 on a car trailer long distance without any problems. 3.0 or 3.5?... RLE ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] ML towing
It would be 3.2 right? On 7/9/2012 4:08 PM, relng...@aol.com wrote: ...I've seen a ML diesel pull a W111 on a car trailer long distance without any problems. 3.0 or 3.5?... RLE ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2012.0.2195 / Virus Database: 2437/5121 - Release Date: 07/09/12 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] ML towing
It was one of the recent ones... On Mon, Jul 9, 2012 at 5:08 PM, relng...@aol.com wrote: ...I've seen a ML diesel pull a W111 on a car trailer long distance without any problems. 3.0 or 3.5?... RLE ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Jaime Kopchinski http://www.jaimekop.com/ ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
