Re: [MBZ] Max's new ride?

2009-09-29 Thread Dillon, Meade M CIV SPAWARSYSCEN-ATLANTIC, 53310
I still haven't been able to get a look at the car.  My window of
opportunity yesterday didn't match the owner's, so probably Wed. after
work I'm going to take a look.

What's the definitive test for coolant leaking from head gasket?  If the
car is burning coolant that would show up in engine oil analysis, right?
If leaking out the side of the block/head joint, should be residue
right?  Is there an instant test for coolant in oil other than milky
color?  Can I see enough of the block/head joint or is it buried under
stuff.  Is there a common failure point of head gasket that I should
look at first?

Max

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[mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Rich Thomas
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Subject: [MBZ] Max's new ride?

So what is the verdict on the new ride?

--R

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Re: [MBZ] Max's new ride?

2009-09-29 Thread harry watkins
Max, a combustion gas sniffer is available that will detect gas in the 
coolant system, (~$40).  That may address some of your issues.


Harry



I still haven't been able to get a look at the car.  My window of
opportunity yesterday didn't match the owner's, so probably Wed. after
work I'm going to take a look.

What's the definitive test for coolant leaking from head gasket?  If the
car is burning coolant that would show up in engine oil analysis, right?
If leaking out the side of the block/head joint, should be residue
right?  Is there an instant test for coolant in oil other than milky
color?  Can I see enough of the block/head joint or is it buried under
stuff.  Is there a common failure point of head gasket that I should
look at first?

Max



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Re: [MBZ] Max's new ride?

2009-09-29 Thread R A Bennell
Does that work with diesel or only gasoline?

Randy

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Max, a combustion gas sniffer is available that will detect gas in the 
coolant system, (~$40).  That may address some of your issues.

Harry


I still haven't been able to get a look at the car.  My window of
 opportunity yesterday didn't match the owner's, so probably Wed. after
 work I'm going to take a look.

 What's the definitive test for coolant leaking from head gasket?  If the
 car is burning coolant that would show up in engine oil analysis, right?
 If leaking out the side of the block/head joint, should be residue
 right?  Is there an instant test for coolant in oil other than milky
 color?  Can I see enough of the block/head joint or is it buried under
 stuff.  Is there a common failure point of head gasket that I should
 look at first?

 Max


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Re: [MBZ] Max's new ride?

2009-09-29 Thread Dillon, Meade M CIV SPAWARSYSCEN-ATLANTIC, 53310
Napa sells a block tester for ~$42, looks like it detects the CO2 from
combustion which would be common to either fuel source.

Max 

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Subject: Re: [MBZ] Max's new ride?

Does that work with diesel or only gasoline?

Randy

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Subject: Re: [MBZ] Max's new ride?


Max, a combustion gas sniffer is available that will detect gas in the
coolant system, (~$40).  That may address some of your issues.

Harry


I still haven't been able to get a look at the car.  My window of  
opportunity yesterday didn't match the owner's, so probably Wed. after

work I'm going to take a look.

 What's the definitive test for coolant leaking from head gasket?  If 
 the car is burning coolant that would show up in engine oil analysis,
right?
 If leaking out the side of the block/head joint, should be residue 
 right?  Is there an instant test for coolant in oil other than milky 
 color?  Can I see enough of the block/head joint or is it buried under

 stuff.  Is there a common failure point of head gasket that I should 
 look at first?

 Max


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Re: [MBZ] Max's new ride?

2009-09-29 Thread Dillon, Meade M CIV SPAWARSYSCEN-ATLANTIC, 53310
Here's a website I found:

http://blockchek.com/

Now I need to find a free/cheap way to use one for an hour or two...


Max 

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Sent: Tuesday, September 29, 2009 12:33 PM
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Subject: Re: [MBZ] Max's new ride?

Napa sells a block tester for ~$42, looks like it detects the CO2 from
combustion which would be common to either fuel source.

Max 

-Original Message-
From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com
[mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of R A Bennell
Sent: Tuesday, September 29, 2009 11:56 AM
To: Mercedes Discussion List
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Max's new ride?

Does that work with diesel or only gasoline?

Randy

-Original Message-
From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com
[mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com]on Behalf Of harry watkins
Sent: Tuesday, September 29, 2009 8:16 AM
To: Mercedes Discussion List
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Max's new ride?


Max, a combustion gas sniffer is available that will detect gas in the
coolant system, (~$40).  That may address some of your issues.

Harry


I still haven't been able to get a look at the car.  My window of 
opportunity yesterday didn't match the owner's, so probably Wed. after

work I'm going to take a look.

 What's the definitive test for coolant leaking from head gasket?  If 
 the car is burning coolant that would show up in engine oil analysis,
right?
 If leaking out the side of the block/head joint, should be residue 
 right?  Is there an instant test for coolant in oil other than milky 
 color?  Can I see enough of the block/head joint or is it buried under

 stuff.  Is there a common failure point of head gasket that I should 
 look at first?

 Max


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Re: [MBZ] Max's new ride?

2009-09-29 Thread Mitch Haley

OK Don wrote:


Now - it refers to needing full circulation of coolant, and shows plugging
the tester into the radiator neck. The later MBs don't have a radiator neck
- the cooant resevoir is a seperate unit, and I'm not so sure that regular
circulation occurs in the resevoir. Is this tool likely to give valid
results with a 124, 126, 107, etc.???


I'm thinking that if any notable quantity of gas gets into the coolant, the only 
place for it to escape is through the 'radiator' cap, so it would have to 
eventually make its way to the device.


I suppose this is the 'test solution', we used to detect exhaled CO2 with it in 
sixth grade science class. The green indication for diesel is probably due to 
the weak concentration of CO2 in the exhaust of an idling diesel.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bromothymol_blue

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Re: [MBZ] Max's new ride?

2009-09-29 Thread Craig McCluskey
On Tue, 29 Sep 2009 12:38:52 -0400 Dillon, Meade M CIV
SPAWARSYSCEN-ATLANTIC, 53310 meade.m.dil...@navy.mil wrote:

 Here's a website I found:
 
 http://blockchek.com/
 
 Now I need to find a free/cheap way to use one for an hour or two...

The AT-1000, a free standing, resealable, clam shell case which includes,

* Universal Block Tester
* Bulb
* Complete Tester
* 16 Ounces of Fluid
* Complete Instructions

looks like it should not be too expensive. Unfortunately, the website does
not list any prices.



Craig 

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[MBZ] Max's new ride?

2009-09-28 Thread Rich Thomas

So what is the verdict on the new ride?

--R

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Re: [MBZ] Max's new ride?

2009-09-28 Thread Mountain Man
--R wrote:
 So what is the verdict on the new ride?

He bought it? - it was in your neighborhood, wasn't it?
What was it?
mao

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