Re: [MBZ] Mechnical interest/aptitude is not inherited

2020-10-15 Thread Frederick Moir via Mercedes
Yesterday I couldn't even spell enjiener, today I are one

On Thu, Oct 15, 2020 at 1:12 PM Karl Wittnebel via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> Engineers are born not made
>
> On Wed, Oct 14, 2020, 8:43 AM Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>
> > On the other hand, my son self-taught on how to transplant a 6 liter
> > engine + megasquirt into his Mazda Miata.  I can barely change the oil
> and
> > only attempt "light" repairs/maintenance.
> >
> > On Tue, Oct 13, 2020 at 10:47 PM Rick Knoble via Mercedes <
> > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> > > The computer on those cars does what it can to help when they are
> > > overheated. As far as non-mechanically inclined children go, they drive
> > > Toyota's. I got tired of semi classic, but rusty benzes getting
> > destroyed.
> > >
> > >
> > > Rick
> > >
> > > From: mercedes@okiebenz.com
> > > Sent: October 13, 2020 7:55 PM
> > > To: mercedes@okiebenz.com
> > > Reply-to: mercedes@okiebenz.com
> > > Cc: astr...@indiana.edu
> > > Subject: [MBZ] Mechnical interest/aptitude is not inherited
> > >
> > > Oldest boy was driving the Focus home tonight. Temperature got hot. He
> > > continued to drive. Temperature got hotter. He stopped and put what
> > > water he had in the reservoir (maybe a quart). He noted steam escaping
> > > from the left hand side of the engine. He got back in and drove home.
> > >
> > > I go out to try to refill the coolant, and now it's just pouring out
> > > around the flange of the thermostat housing.
> > >
> > > I swear I eyeballed the reservoir tank when I replaced the alternator a
> > > few weeks ago and it was fine.
> > >
> > > Hoping it's just a failed gasket. The zetec engine supposedly has some
> > > protection that will shut down cylinders to pump air through the engine
> > > if it's getting too hot. Hopefully that still works.
> > >
> > > I was rebuilding engines at age 16. This kid hardly understands how an
> > > engine works and doesn't seem interested to learn. Which is fine, not
> > > everyone is into that stuff, but it's a little weird how different he
> > > and I are.
> > >
> > > Allan
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Re: [MBZ] Mechnical interest/aptitude is not inherited

2020-10-15 Thread Karl Wittnebel via Mercedes
Engineers are born not made

On Wed, Oct 14, 2020, 8:43 AM Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> On the other hand, my son self-taught on how to transplant a 6 liter
> engine + megasquirt into his Mazda Miata.  I can barely change the oil and
> only attempt "light" repairs/maintenance.
>
> On Tue, Oct 13, 2020 at 10:47 PM Rick Knoble via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>
> > The computer on those cars does what it can to help when they are
> > overheated. As far as non-mechanically inclined children go, they drive
> > Toyota's. I got tired of semi classic, but rusty benzes getting
> destroyed.
> >
> >
> > Rick
> >
> > From: mercedes@okiebenz.com
> > Sent: October 13, 2020 7:55 PM
> > To: mercedes@okiebenz.com
> > Reply-to: mercedes@okiebenz.com
> > Cc: astr...@indiana.edu
> > Subject: [MBZ] Mechnical interest/aptitude is not inherited
> >
> > Oldest boy was driving the Focus home tonight. Temperature got hot. He
> > continued to drive. Temperature got hotter. He stopped and put what
> > water he had in the reservoir (maybe a quart). He noted steam escaping
> > from the left hand side of the engine. He got back in and drove home.
> >
> > I go out to try to refill the coolant, and now it's just pouring out
> > around the flange of the thermostat housing.
> >
> > I swear I eyeballed the reservoir tank when I replaced the alternator a
> > few weeks ago and it was fine.
> >
> > Hoping it's just a failed gasket. The zetec engine supposedly has some
> > protection that will shut down cylinders to pump air through the engine
> > if it's getting too hot. Hopefully that still works.
> >
> > I was rebuilding engines at age 16. This kid hardly understands how an
> > engine works and doesn't seem interested to learn. Which is fine, not
> > everyone is into that stuff, but it's a little weird how different he
> > and I are.
> >
> > Allan
> >
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Re: [MBZ] Mechnical interest/aptitude is not inherited

2020-10-14 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
On the other hand, my son self-taught on how to transplant a 6 liter
engine + megasquirt into his Mazda Miata.  I can barely change the oil and
only attempt "light" repairs/maintenance.

On Tue, Oct 13, 2020 at 10:47 PM Rick Knoble via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> The computer on those cars does what it can to help when they are
> overheated. As far as non-mechanically inclined children go, they drive
> Toyota's. I got tired of semi classic, but rusty benzes getting destroyed.
>
>
> Rick
>
> From: mercedes@okiebenz.com
> Sent: October 13, 2020 7:55 PM
> To: mercedes@okiebenz.com
> Reply-to: mercedes@okiebenz.com
> Cc: astr...@indiana.edu
> Subject: [MBZ] Mechnical interest/aptitude is not inherited
>
> Oldest boy was driving the Focus home tonight. Temperature got hot. He
> continued to drive. Temperature got hotter. He stopped and put what
> water he had in the reservoir (maybe a quart). He noted steam escaping
> from the left hand side of the engine. He got back in and drove home.
>
> I go out to try to refill the coolant, and now it's just pouring out
> around the flange of the thermostat housing.
>
> I swear I eyeballed the reservoir tank when I replaced the alternator a
> few weeks ago and it was fine.
>
> Hoping it's just a failed gasket. The zetec engine supposedly has some
> protection that will shut down cylinders to pump air through the engine
> if it's getting too hot. Hopefully that still works.
>
> I was rebuilding engines at age 16. This kid hardly understands how an
> engine works and doesn't seem interested to learn. Which is fine, not
> everyone is into that stuff, but it's a little weird how different he
> and I are.
>
> Allan
>
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Re: [MBZ] Mechnical interest/aptitude is not inherited

2020-10-13 Thread Rick Knoble via Mercedes
The computer on those cars does what it can to help when they are overheated. 
As far as non-mechanically inclined children go, they drive Toyota's. I got 
tired of semi classic, but rusty benzes getting destroyed.


Rick

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Subject: [MBZ] Mechnical interest/aptitude is not inherited

Oldest boy was driving the Focus home tonight. Temperature got hot. He
continued to drive. Temperature got hotter. He stopped and put what
water he had in the reservoir (maybe a quart). He noted steam escaping
from the left hand side of the engine. He got back in and drove home.

I go out to try to refill the coolant, and now it's just pouring out
around the flange of the thermostat housing.

I swear I eyeballed the reservoir tank when I replaced the alternator a
few weeks ago and it was fine.

Hoping it's just a failed gasket. The zetec engine supposedly has some
protection that will shut down cylinders to pump air through the engine
if it's getting too hot. Hopefully that still works.

I was rebuilding engines at age 16. This kid hardly understands how an
engine works and doesn't seem interested to learn. Which is fine, not
everyone is into that stuff, but it's a little weird how different he
and I are.

Allan

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Re: [MBZ] Mechnical interest/aptitude is not inherited

2020-10-13 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
Accept it, Allen.

I’ve got two boys (men, really), one of which has no interest in cars or even 
maintaining then, it’s just transportation from point A to point B. However, 
when tasked, he’s actually done his own repairs, but that was during a fairly 
short period of time a few years ago and has not occurred since. Not sure what 
the impetus was, but it apparently passed and has not returned.

My youngest isn’t so much into cars, but he understands the value of 
maintaining his and is very good about conducting routine maintenance and even 
repairs when they’ve been necessary. He has a good grasp of how internal 
combustion engines operate and could probably figure most things out with a 
combination of research and tinkering.

It’s clearly not something that’s a part of their DNA.

I don’t fret about it too much. I just offer to assist when necessary and 
gladly offer insight and advice whenever they’re looking over my shoulder when 
they pass by in the garage and I’m working. Our generation was a lot different 
in so many ways, I just accept it as a generational thing and do my best to 
kindle anything in the way of interest when it pops up.

-D


> On Oct 13, 2020, at 8:54 PM, Allan Streib via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Oldest boy was driving the Focus home tonight. Temperature got hot. He
> continued to drive. Temperature got hotter. He stopped and put what
> water he had in the reservoir (maybe a quart). He noted steam escaping
> from the left hand side of the engine. He got back in and drove home.
> 
> I go out to try to refill the coolant, and now it's just pouring out
> around the flange of the thermostat housing.
> 
> I swear I eyeballed the reservoir tank when I replaced the alternator a
> few weeks ago and it was fine.
> 
> Hoping it's just a failed gasket. The zetec engine supposedly has some
> protection that will shut down cylinders to pump air through the engine
> if it's getting too hot. Hopefully that still works.
> 
> I was rebuilding engines at age 16. This kid hardly understands how an
> engine works and doesn't seem interested to learn. Which is fine, not
> everyone is into that stuff, but it's a little weird how different he
> and I are.
> 
> Allan
> 
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[MBZ] Mechnical interest/aptitude is not inherited

2020-10-13 Thread Allan Streib via Mercedes
Oldest boy was driving the Focus home tonight. Temperature got hot. He
continued to drive. Temperature got hotter. He stopped and put what
water he had in the reservoir (maybe a quart). He noted steam escaping
from the left hand side of the engine. He got back in and drove home.

I go out to try to refill the coolant, and now it's just pouring out
around the flange of the thermostat housing.

I swear I eyeballed the reservoir tank when I replaced the alternator a
few weeks ago and it was fine.

Hoping it's just a failed gasket. The zetec engine supposedly has some
protection that will shut down cylinders to pump air through the engine
if it's getting too hot. Hopefully that still works.

I was rebuilding engines at age 16. This kid hardly understands how an
engine works and doesn't seem interested to learn. Which is fine, not
everyone is into that stuff, but it's a little weird how different he
and I are.

Allan

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