Re: [MBZ] Mercedes-Benz Sprinter OM642 & OM651 BlueTEC Diesel Issues & Problems | Stephens Service Center - Sacramento's Best Mercedes-Benz Service & Repairs

2021-07-06 Thread Rick Knoble via Mercedes
> I wonder if the computers are smart enough to prevent running if the DPF and 
> EGR are removed

Yes. I don't know about MB, but I know someone who had a shop "tune" a BMW 
diesel (for off road use, wink, wink) and they eliminated ALL the emissions 
control crap. Obviously, this in not in EPA compliance, and could result in 
fines, etc. if the vehicle is driven on the road. I would suspect there are 
shops the can tune a Mercedes as well.


Rick
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Re: [MBZ] Mercedes-Benz Sprinter OM642 & OM651 BlueTEC Diesel Issues & Problems | Stephens Service Center - Sacramento's Best Mercedes-Benz Service & Repairs

2021-07-06 Thread Allan Streib via Mercedes
I wonder if the computers are smart enough to prevent running if the DPF and 
EGR are removed. Of course you would not be able to pass emissions testing if 
your state does that, not to mention risking a large fine.

There's apparently a small contingent of owner/operators who are restoring and 
working 80's and 90's vintage semi trucks to avoid the maintenance headaches of 
the modern engines and emissions gear. For certain loads, they can charge 
enough to offset the lower fuel economy. From what I understand they can't be 
driven in California though.

Allan

On Tue, Jul 6, 2021, at 8:46 AM, Dimitri Seretakis via Mercedes wrote:
> Wow. Andrew, perhaps you should consider not selling your 300TD. 
> No way I’m buying any bluetec junk after reading this. Bottom line is that 
> there is always a hidden downside to the utopia of clean burning vehicles or 
> “zero emission” vehicles such as electric cars. 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> > On Jul 5, 2021, at 5:17 PM, Allan Streib via Mercedes 
> >  wrote:
> > 
> > Thanks for posting that, I think. Pretty much convinces me to never buy a 
> > used Blutec or at least not one with very many miles on it.
> > 
> > Allan
> > 
> >> On Mon, Jul 5, 2021, at 3:59 PM, Kevin Kraly via Mercedes wrote:
> >> Here is the link to the awesome write up on how Bluetec emissions work, 
> >> common issues and how to help prevent them. This also pertains to the 2.1L 
> >> OM651 4 cylinder Diesel engine as in Andrew’s GL250.
> >> 
> 
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Re: [MBZ] Mercedes-Benz Sprinter OM642 & OM651 BlueTEC Diesel Issues & Problems | Stephens Service Center - Sacramento's Best Mercedes-Benz Service & Repairs

2021-07-06 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
Well I love them both

On Tue, Jul 6, 2021, 8:47 AM Dimitri Seretakis via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> Wow. Andrew, perhaps you should consider not selling your 300TD.
> No way I’m buying any bluetec junk after reading this. Bottom line is that
> there is always a hidden downside to the utopia of clean burning vehicles
> or “zero emission” vehicles such as electric cars.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> > On Jul 5, 2021, at 5:17 PM, Allan Streib via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> > Thanks for posting that, I think. Pretty much convinces me to never buy
> a used Blutec or at least not one with very many miles on it.
> >
> > Allan
> >
> >> On Mon, Jul 5, 2021, at 3:59 PM, Kevin Kraly via Mercedes wrote:
> >> Here is the link to the awesome write up on how Bluetec emissions work,
> common issues and how to help prevent them. This also pertains to the 2.1L
> OM651 4 cylinder Diesel engine as in Andrew’s GL250.
> >>
> >> http://www.stephensservice.com/bluetec-diesel-issuesproblems/
> >>
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Re: [MBZ] Mercedes-Benz Sprinter OM642 & OM651 BlueTEC Diesel Issues & Problems | Stephens Service Center - Sacramento's Best Mercedes-Benz Service & Repairs

2021-07-06 Thread Dimitri Seretakis via Mercedes
Wow. Andrew, perhaps you should consider not selling your 300TD. 
No way I’m buying any bluetec junk after reading this. Bottom line is that 
there is always a hidden downside to the utopia of clean burning vehicles or 
“zero emission” vehicles such as electric cars. 

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jul 5, 2021, at 5:17 PM, Allan Streib via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> Thanks for posting that, I think. Pretty much convinces me to never buy a 
> used Blutec or at least not one with very many miles on it.
> 
> Allan
> 
>> On Mon, Jul 5, 2021, at 3:59 PM, Kevin Kraly via Mercedes wrote:
>> Here is the link to the awesome write up on how Bluetec emissions work, 
>> common issues and how to help prevent them. This also pertains to the 2.1L 
>> OM651 4 cylinder Diesel engine as in Andrew’s GL250.
>> 
>> http://www.stephensservice.com/bluetec-diesel-issuesproblems/
>> 
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Re: [MBZ] Mercedes-Benz Sprinter OM642 & OM651 BlueTEC Diesel Issues & Problems | Stephens Service Center - Sacramento's Best Mercedes-Benz Service & Repairs

2021-07-05 Thread Allan Streib via Mercedes
Thanks for posting that, I think. Pretty much convinces me to never buy a used 
Blutec or at least not one with very many miles on it.

Allan

On Mon, Jul 5, 2021, at 3:59 PM, Kevin Kraly via Mercedes wrote:
> Here is the link to the awesome write up on how Bluetec emissions work, 
> common issues and how to help prevent them. This also pertains to the 2.1L 
> OM651 4 cylinder Diesel engine as in Andrew’s GL250.
> 
> http://www.stephensservice.com/bluetec-diesel-issuesproblems/
> 
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[MBZ] Mercedes-Benz Sprinter OM642 & OM651 BlueTEC Diesel Issues & Problems | Stephens Service Center - Sacramento's Best Mercedes-Benz Service & Repairs

2021-07-05 Thread Kevin Kraly via Mercedes
Here is the link to the awesome write up on how Bluetec emissions work, common 
issues and how to help prevent them. This also pertains to the 2.1L OM651 4 
cylinder Diesel engine as in Andrew’s GL250.

http://www.stephensservice.com/bluetec-diesel-issuesproblems/


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