Re: [MBZ] Mercedes Competition?

[Rick Knoble via Mercedes]

Craig sez:

>‎Particularly those which are strobed at a >low rate -- when you scan your
>vision across the back of the car in the >distance, you see a line of red
>tail lights.

Yup. RLE (RIP) went round and round over that.
Older Cadillacs are particularly annoying. 

Rick
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Re: [MBZ] Mercedes Competition?

[Craig via Mercedes]

On Wed, 7 Feb 2018 08:38:51 -0800 Jim Cathey via Mercedes
 wrote:

> So far LED's on the road have _not_ been a blessing to the consumer!

Particularly those which are strobed at a low rate -- when you scan your
vision across the back of the car in the distance, you see a line of red
tail lights.


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] Mercedes Competition?

[Jim Cathey via Mercedes]

>
> Car design worldwide is in the doldrums...Looks like an ugly fish with its
> mouth wide open.


Notice that some taillights going by on the road now look like angry clown
mouths?  Hideous.
And they're as bright as brake lights.  So far LED's on the road have _not_
been a blessing
to the consumer!

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Re: [MBZ] Mercedes Competition?

[archer75--- via Mercedes]

Yabut their not going to sell their Maomobile in its current form, their going 
to hire European designers and engineers to redesign it for the world market as 
well as build other cars competitive with Merz  and BMW. 
Car design worldwide is in the doldrums. Ever notice the front end of a Toyota 
Camry? Looks like an ugly fish with its mouth wide open. That goes for many 
other models from Europe and the U.S. as well.
In general, the Chinese' European designers and engineers they are hiring can't 
do any worse than those working for the current major brands.
Gerry

Andrew Strasfogel wrote:

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> 
> On Tue, Feb 6, 2018 at 8:43 PM, OK Don via Mercedes 
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> 
> > They do need help with design . . .
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> > On Tue, Feb 6, 2018 at 7:31 PM, archer75--- via Mercedes <
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> > > Ming, director of Hongqi Design, announced that the First Automobile
> > Works
> > > (FAW) will set up research and development centers in Europe.
> > >
> > > "Hongqi is finding the most outstanding design resources around the world
> > > to make the historic sedan brand international," Zhang told Xinhua in an
> > > exclusive interview...
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Re: [MBZ] Mercedes Competition?

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On Tue, Feb 6, 2018 at 8:27 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes <
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> Like a flat pancake squooshed down with a spatula.
>
> Yeah, and the cars look dumb too.

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Re: [MBZ] Mercedes Competition?

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

Like a flat pancake squooshed down with a spatula.

On Tue, Feb 6, 2018 at 8:43 PM, OK Don via Mercedes 
wrote:

> They do need help with design . . .
>
> On Tue, Feb 6, 2018 at 7:31 PM, archer75--- via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>
> >
> > Renowned as the iconic vehicle used by the country's leaders on important
> > national events, the Hongqi sedan is about to go global.
> >
> > After completing a four-day business trip to Germany and Spain, Zhang
> > Ming, director of Hongqi Design, announced that the First Automobile
> Works
> > (FAW) will set up research and development centers in Europe.
> >
> > "Hongqi is finding the most outstanding design resources around the world
> > to make the historic sedan brand international," Zhang told Xinhua in an
> > exclusive interview...
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Re: [MBZ] Mercedes Competition?

[OK Don via Mercedes]

They do need help with design . . .

On Tue, Feb 6, 2018 at 7:31 PM, archer75--- via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

>
> Renowned as the iconic vehicle used by the country's leaders on important
> national events, the Hongqi sedan is about to go global.
>
> After completing a four-day business trip to Germany and Spain, Zhang
> Ming, director of Hongqi Design, announced that the First Automobile Works
> (FAW) will set up research and development centers in Europe.
>
> "Hongqi is finding the most outstanding design resources around the world
> to make the historic sedan brand international," Zhang told Xinhua in an
> exclusive interview...
>
> http://www.globaltimes.cn/content/1088431.shtml
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[MBZ] Mercedes Competition?

[archer75--- via Mercedes]

Renowned as the iconic vehicle used by the country's leaders on important 
national events, the Hongqi sedan is about to go global.

After completing a four-day business trip to Germany and Spain, Zhang Ming, 
director of Hongqi Design, announced that the First Automobile Works (FAW) will 
set up research and development centers in Europe.  

"Hongqi is finding the most outstanding design resources around the world to 
make the historic sedan brand international," Zhang told Xinhua in an exclusive 
interview...

http://www.globaltimes.cn/content/1088431.shtml  

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Re: [MBZ] Mercedes Competition

[Curly McLain via Mercedes]

Friend bought one not long after they came out, and I drove it. It 
wasn't impressive. It had a stock American drive train and the 
handling was nothing special. He kept it for years and finally sold 
it. IIRC the body was unpainted stainless steel. Where do you find a 
bodyman who can do an invisible fix on a dent in unpainted stainless 
steel?

Gerry


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Re: [MBZ] Mercedes Competition

[G Mann via Mercedes]

My assessment exactly, with a few add ons.

Gull wing doors with non functioning side windows from a practical standpoint.
Stainless body not repairable by an ordinary body shop, except by
replacement. [very high cost due to limited production]
Nothing outstanding in either power or preformance.
Not really an attractive car that says "drive me, I'm Aston Martin fast".
Virtually impossible to access engine for routine maintenance.
High cost [for it's era].
You have to take off your disco boots to drive it... [snarky comment].

I wish the "new production" every success, however, I won't be
spending $40+K for a refurbished one.. or $100+K for a new one...
ever..

On Thu, Jan 28, 2016 at 10:59 PM, archer75--- via Mercedes
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> Friend bought one not long after they came out, and I drove it. It wasn't 
> impressive. It had a stock American drive train and the handling was nothing 
> special. He kept it for years and finally sold it. IIRC the body was 
> unpainted stainless steel. Where do you find a bodyman who can do an 
> invisible fix on a dent in unpainted stainless steel?
> Gerry
>
> G Mann wrote:
>> Well. that whole idea just flies up my nose
>> Anyone here ever driven one for an extended time? Really not that impressive.
>>
>> On Thu, Jan 28, 2016 at 6:45 PM, Dwight Giles via Mercedes
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>> >
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>> > On Jan 28, 2016 6:44 PM, "Rich Thomas via Mercedes" 
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Re: [MBZ] Mercedes Competition

[Curt Raymond via Mercedes]

IIRC the "body" was fiberglass with stainless panels over it...
I also seem to remember the engine was a GM v6 which considering the era meant 
something not terribly powerful.
-Curt
 

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My assessment exactly, with a few add ons.

Gull wing doors with non functioning side windows from a practical standpoint.
Stainless body not repairable by an ordinary body shop, except by
replacement. [very high cost due to limited production]
Nothing outstanding in either power or preformance.
Not really an attractive car that says "drive me, I'm Aston Martin fast".
Virtually impossible to access engine for routine maintenance.
High cost [for it's era].
You have to take off your disco boots to drive it... [snarky comment].

I wish the "new production" every success, however, I won't be
spending $40+K for a refurbished one.. or $100+K for a new one...
ever..

On Thu, Jan 28, 2016 at 10:59 PM, archer75--- via Mercedes
<mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> Friend bought one not long after they came out, and I drove it. It wasn't 
> impressive. It had a stock American drive train and the handling was nothing 
> special. He kept it for years and finally sold it. IIRC the body was 
> unpainted stainless steel. Where do you find a bodyman who can do an 
> invisible fix on a dent in unpainted stainless steel?
> Gerry
>
> G Mann wrote:
>> Well. that whole idea just flies up my nose
>> Anyone here ever driven one for an extended time? Really not that impressive.
>>
>> On Thu, Jan 28, 2016 at 6:45 PM, Dwight Giles via Mercedes
>> <mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>> > Yes maker & buyers
>> >
>> > Dwight Giles Jr.
>> > 1982 300CD
>> > 1990 300D
>> > Wickford RI
>> > On Jan 28, 2016 6:44 PM, "Rich Thomas via Mercedes" <mercedes@okiebenz.com>
>> > wrote:
>> >
>> >> Cocaine required
>> >>
>> >> --R
>> >>
>> >> On 1/28/16 6:16 PM, archer75--- via Mercedes wrote:
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Re: [MBZ] Mercedes Competition

[OK Don via Mercedes]

Wrong - "fiberglass chassis and underbody structure, along with a
brushed stainless
steel  body" and "The engine
is a Peugeot-Renault-Volvo (PRV) 2.85 litre V6
 which was designed and built under
special contract with the DMC Company. These PRV engines
 were a development of the 2.7
litre V6 in the Renault 30 , and
were built in the PRV Factory in Douvrin
, Northern France. The gearbox, also
designed by PRV, was built at the Renault facility near Caen
 in Normandy."

The guy three hangars north of me has one  - he says it has the typical
English electrical system and crap drive train. Other than that, it is cool
looking.

"The original Ducellier alternator
 supplied with the early
production DMC-12s could not provide enough current to supply the car when
all lights and electrical options were on; as a result, the battery
 would gradually
discharge, leaving the driver stranded on the road."

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DeLorean_DMC-12

On Fri, Jan 29, 2016 at 11:24 AM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> IIRC the "body" was fiberglass with stainless panels over it...
> I also seem to remember the engine was a GM v6 which considering the era
> meant something not terribly powerful.
> -Curt
>
>


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Re: [MBZ] Mercedes Competition

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

Does anyone miss Renault cars?

On Fri, Jan 29, 2016 at 12:41 PM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

>
>
> > On January 29, 2016 at 12:24 PM Curt Raymond via Mercedes
> >  wrote:
> >
> >
> > IIRC the "body" was fiberglass with stainless panels over it...
> > I also seem to remember the engine was a GM v6 which considering the era
> meant
> > something not terribly powerful.
>
> Might as well have been the little GM six.
> Delorean used a 2.85L Renault V6, rated at 130hp SAE Net.
> IIRC, the carbureted 2.8L V6 in the 1980 Chevy Citation was rated at 125hp.
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Re: [MBZ] Mercedes Competition

[Mitch Haley via Mercedes]

> On January 29, 2016 at 12:24 PM Curt Raymond via Mercedes
>  wrote:
> 
> 
> IIRC the "body" was fiberglass with stainless panels over it...
> I also seem to remember the engine was a GM v6 which considering the era meant
> something not terribly powerful.

Might as well have been the little GM six. 
Delorean used a 2.85L Renault V6, rated at 130hp SAE Net. 
IIRC, the carbureted 2.8L V6 in the 1980 Chevy Citation was rated at 125hp. 

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Re: [MBZ] Mercedes Competition

[redghost--- via Mercedes]

one of the velocity channel shows had a DMC get fixed. They had a devil of a 
time getting the thing to hit 88mph on a round track 

clay 

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Subject: Re: [MBZ] Mercedes Competition 

IIRC the "body" was fiberglass with stainless panels over it... 
I also seem to remember the engine was a GM v6 which considering the era meant 
something not terribly powerful. 
-Curt 


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Cc: G Mann <g2ma...@gmail.com> 
Sent: Friday, January 29, 2016 9:16 AM 
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Mercedes Competition 

My assessment exactly, with a few add ons. 

Gull wing doors with non functioning side windows from a practical standpoint. 
Stainless body not repairable by an ordinary body shop, except by 
replacement. [very high cost due to limited production] 
Nothing outstanding in either power or preformance. 
Not really an attractive car that says "drive me, I'm Aston Martin fast". 
Virtually impossible to access engine for routine maintenance. 
High cost [for it's era]. 
You have to take off your disco boots to drive it... [snarky comment]. 

I wish the "new production" every success, however, I won't be 
spending $40+K for a refurbished one.. or $100+K for a new one... 
ever.. 

On Thu, Jan 28, 2016 at 10:59 PM, archer75--- via Mercedes 
<mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: 
> Friend bought one not long after they came out, and I drove it. It wasn't 
> impressive. It had a stock American drive train and the handling was nothing 
> special. He kept it for years and finally sold it. IIRC the body was 
> unpainted stainless steel. Where do you find a bodyman who can do an 
> invisible fix on a dent in unpainted stainless steel? 
> Gerry 
> 
> G Mann wrote: 
>> Well. that whole idea just flies up my nose 
>> Anyone here ever driven one for an extended time? Really not that 
>> impressive. 
>> 
>> On Thu, Jan 28, 2016 at 6:45 PM, Dwight Giles via Mercedes 
>> <mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: 
>> > Yes maker & buyers 
>> > 
>> > Dwight Giles Jr. 
>> > 1982 300CD 
>> > 1990 300D 
>> > Wickford RI 
>> > On Jan 28, 2016 6:44 PM, "Rich Thomas via Mercedes" 
>> > <mercedes@okiebenz.com> 
>> > wrote: 
>> > 
>> >> Cocaine required 
>> >> 
>> >> --R 
>> >> 
>> >> On 1/28/16 6:16 PM, archer75--- via Mercedes wrote: 
>> >> 
>> >>> DeLorean to go back into production after 35 years. 
>> >>> 
>> >>> http://www.naplesnews.com/news/watercooler/366763001.xhtml 
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Re: [MBZ] Mercedes Competition

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On Fri, 29 Jan 2016 08:10:08 -0600
Curly McLain via Mercedes  wrote:

> >Friend bought one not long after they came out, and I drove it. It 
> >wasn't impressive. It had a stock American drive train and the 
> >handling was nothing special. He kept it for years and finally sold 
> >it. IIRC the body was unpainted stainless steel. Where do you find a 
> >bodyman who can do an invisible fix on a dent in unpainted stainless 
> >steel?
> >Gerry
> 
> A really good restaurant supply

Yeah, never thought of that.
Gerry

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Does anyone miss Renault cars?


No more than I miss a simca.

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Re: [MBZ] Mercedes Competition

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I take that as a No.

On Fri, Jan 29, 2016 at 2:02 PM, OK Don via Mercedes 
wrote:

> HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
>
> On Fri, Jan 29, 2016 at 11:42 AM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>
> > Does anyone miss Renault cars?
> >
> >
> > --
> >
> OK Don
>
> *“Travel is fatal to prejudice, bigotry and narrow-mindedness, and many of
> our people need it sorely on these accounts.”* – Mark Twain
>
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> learn by observation. The rest of them have to pee on the electric fence
> for themselves."
>
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Re: [MBZ] Mercedes Competition

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Any tears for the 1975 - 89 Chevy Chevette?

I purchased one new in late 1975 for $3600, and sold it in 1982 for $300
prior to purchasing my very first Mercedes - a 1973 280.  As they say, the
rest is (boring) history.

Time Magazine rated it among the 50 most cars!

http://content.time.com/time/specials/2007/article/0,28804,1658545_1658533_1658523,00.html


On Fri, Jan 29, 2016 at 2:15 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> Like the Dauphine my Dad got as a program car when he was an executive VP
> at General Motors?
>
> HAHAHAHAHAHAHA
>
> Or the Opel Kadette he got from them for my Mom?
>
> 
>
> Dan who escaped the GM program cars with a 1970 Ford Maverick 2 door
>
> Sent from my iPad
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> > On Jan 29, 2016, at 2:02 PM, OK Don via Mercedes 
> wrote:
> >
> > HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
> >
> > On Fri, Jan 29, 2016 at 11:42 AM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes <
> > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> >> Does anyone miss Renault cars?
> >>
> >>
> >> --
> > OK Don
> >
> > *“Travel is fatal to prejudice, bigotry and narrow-mindedness, and many
> of
> > our people need it sorely on these accounts.”* – Mark Twain
> >
> > "There are three kinds of men: The ones that learns by reading. The few
> who
> > learn by observation. The rest of them have to pee on the electric fence
> > for themselves."
> >
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> > 2013 F150, 18 mpg
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Re: [MBZ] Mercedes Competition

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On Wheeler Dealers they purchased a 1976 AMC Pacer for $3500 and
then tricked it out for another $15K,  IIRC.  They ended up 8K in the hole
after donating it to a charity auction...

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>>
>
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Re: [MBZ] Mercedes Competition

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Like the Dauphine my Dad got as a program car when he was an executive VP at 
General Motors?

HAHAHAHAHAHAHA

Or the Opel Kadette he got from them for my Mom?



Dan who escaped the GM program cars with a 1970 Ford Maverick 2 door

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> 
> HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
> 
> On Fri, Jan 29, 2016 at 11:42 AM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> 
>> Does anyone miss Renault cars?
>> 
>> 
>> --
> OK Don
> 
> *“Travel is fatal to prejudice, bigotry and narrow-mindedness, and many of
> our people need it sorely on these accounts.”* – Mark Twain
> 
> "There are three kinds of men: The ones that learns by reading. The few who
> learn by observation. The rest of them have to pee on the electric fence
> for themselves."
> 
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Re: [MBZ] Mercedes Competition

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Any tears for the 1975 - 89 Chevy Chevette?

I purchased one new in late 1975 for $3600, and sold it in 1982 for $300
prior to purchasing my very first Mercedes - a 1973 280.  As they say, the
rest is (boring) history.

Time Magazine rated it among the 50 most cars!

http://content.time.com/time/specials/2007/article/0,28804,1658545_1658533_1658523,00.html


A shove-it?

What do you think it was that changed the name of that GM division to 
Shove-roll-lay?  Oh, and the car first became a Shove-it for obvious 
reasons.


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Re: [MBZ] Mercedes Competition

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HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

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mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> Does anyone miss Renault cars?
>
>
> --
>
OK Don

*“Travel is fatal to prejudice, bigotry and narrow-mindedness, and many of
our people need it sorely on these accounts.”* – Mark Twain

"There are three kinds of men: The ones that learns by reading. The few who
learn by observation. The rest of them have to pee on the electric fence
for themselves."

WILL ROGERS, *The Manly Wisdom of Will Rogers*
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Re: [MBZ] Mercedes Competition

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What could go wrong?

--R

On 1/29/16 12:39 PM, OK Don via Mercedes wrote:

The engine
is a Peugeot-Renault-Volvo (PRV) 2.85 litre V6



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Re: [MBZ] Mercedes Competition

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I found it quite utilitarian, and problem free for 6 years (except for
surprisingly costly brake work).  With the maintenance savings I  was able
to  Move Up to a (used) Mercedes.

On Fri, Jan 29, 2016 at 2:32 PM, Curly McLain via Mercedes <
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> Any tears for the 1975 - 89 Chevy Chevette?
>>
>> I purchased one new in late 1975 for $3600, and sold it in 1982 for $300
>> prior to purchasing my very first Mercedes - a 1973 280.  As they say, the
>> rest is (boring) history.
>>
>> Time Magazine rated it among the 50 most cars!
>>
>>
>> http://content.time.com/time/specials/2007/article/0,28804,1658545_1658533_1658523,00.html
>>
>
> A shove-it?
>
> What do you think it was that changed the name of that GM division to
> Shove-roll-lay?  Oh, and the car first became a Shove-it for obvious
> reasons.
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Re: [MBZ] Mercedes Competition

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On Fri, 29 Jan 2016 13:32:06 -0600 Curly McLain via Mercedes
 wrote:

> >Any tears for the 1975 - 89 Chevy Chevette?
> >
> >I purchased one new in late 1975 for $3600, and sold it in 1982 for
> >$300 prior to purchasing my very first Mercedes - a 1973 280.  As they
> >say, the rest is (boring) history.
> >
> >Time Magazine rated it among the 50 most cars!
> >
> >http://content.time.com/time/specials/2007/article/0,28804,1658545_1658533_1658523,00.html


I have a '78 Chevette engine in my propane-fired generator set.

It is a good engine.


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] Mercedes Competition

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Back years ago wasn't there some sort of Renault that got imported and 
co-badged with Dodge or something?  anyway, this girl who was a friend 
of my wife was getting married in NJ or someplace, and another friend 
and her husband wanted to go.  They had a new Renault or whatever it was 
and offered to take it.  OK.  At some point I got pressed into driving, 
what a POS that thing was.  Small, no power, handled like a beach ball, 
since there were 4 of us and luggage it was down on the suspension stops 
so rode like a log wagon.


--R

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Like the Dauphine my Dad got as a program car when he was an executive VP at 
General Motors?

HAHAHAHAHAHAHA

Or the Opel Kadette he got from them for my Mom?



Dan who escaped the GM program cars with a 1970 Ford Maverick 2 door

Sent from my iPad


On Jan 29, 2016, at 2:02 PM, OK Don via Mercedes  wrote:

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

On Fri, Jan 29, 2016 at 11:42 AM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:


Does anyone miss Renault cars?


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Re: [MBZ] Mercedes Competition

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I had read that they will have an exemption (not sure which one) to make
them street legal.

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> Well. that whole idea just flies up my nose
>
> Anyone here ever driven one for an extended time? Really not that
> impressive.
>
> On Thu, Jan 28, 2016 at 6:45 PM, Dwight Giles via Mercedes
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> >
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> > wrote:
> >
> >> Cocaine required
> >>
> >> --R
> >>
> >> On 1/28/16 6:16 PM, archer75--- via Mercedes wrote:
> >>
> >>>   DeLorean to go back into production after 35 years.
> >>>
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Friend bought one not long after they came out, and I drove it. It wasn't 
impressive. It had a stock American drive train and the handling was nothing 
special. He kept it for years and finally sold it. IIRC the body was unpainted 
stainless steel. Where do you find a bodyman who can do an invisible fix on a 
dent in unpainted stainless steel?
Gerry

G Mann wrote:
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> Anyone here ever driven one for an extended time? Really not that impressive.
> 
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> >>
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 DeLorean to go back into production after 35 years.

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Cocaine required

--R

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  DeLorean to go back into production after 35 years.

http://www.naplesnews.com/news/watercooler/366763001.xhtml

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Yes maker & buyers

Dwight Giles Jr.
1982 300CD
1990 300D
Wickford RI
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Well. that whole idea just flies up my nose

Anyone here ever driven one for an extended time? Really not that impressive.

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