Re: [MBZ] More thinkings on the $900E500 limp mode issue -- SBC??? YAAASSSSS!!!!

2021-04-06 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes
 Get it going good and snag somebody's stimulus check (and then some) with it?
-Curt

On Tuesday, April 6, 2021, 10:47:11 AM EDT, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes 
 wrote:  
 
 Well. Spoke to the stealer this morning and the service rep says the 
accumulator will be covered under the SBC warranty.  There would be a 
charge for scanning it but if it is indeed the SBC (which it is) then 
there will be no charge for the diagnostic.  AND. [drum roll] he 
told me to call Mercedes roadside assistance and they would pick the car 
up for free and bring it in!

He also said it is possible that the SB fault would be causing the limp 
mode, which is what I started thinking.  I should probably look at the 
RR air strut issue, it is throwing a code but no problems with it, I 
think it might just be a sensor or connector.

Hot damn this could work out really well.  Fixed for free and will 
probably get a wash out of it too!  I guess I would need to go fetch it 
with the trailer after they deal with it since I don't have plates for 
it yet, but that isn't a biggie.

This could work out really well.  I might even spring for a detailer 
come clean it, it is a pretty nice car and for $900 in it I will not 
begrudge a few $$ to get it looking nice. I'm not sure what I would do 
with it, don't really need it but the 500 is a LOT of fun to drive.  I 
guess I could sell it and make some good bank.

--FT

On 4/5/21 10:50 PM, Buggered Benzmail wrote:
> Gotcha. I already know the problem is clearly part of the SBC, I just don’t 
> know if they will see it as a covered part even though it is clearly part of 
> the system
>
> --FT
> Sent from iPhone
>
>> On Apr 5, 2021, at 8:10 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes  
>> wrote:
>>
>> I’m just saying… when I spoke to my dealer about checking the SBC on the 
>> eldest son’s E320 CDI they said that they would charge me a diagnostic fee 
>> if the issue wasn’t warranty related to the SBC.
>>
>> -D
>>
>>
>>> On Apr 5, 2021, at 7:54 PM, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes 
>>>  wrote:
>>>
>>> So if I’m gonna get charged $100 or something for a scan then I might as 
>>> well just buy the part and install it myself. I’ll see what they say 
>>> tomorrow. Thanks...
>>>
>>> --FT
>>> Sent from iPhone
>>>
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Re: [MBZ] More thinkings on the $900E500 limp mode issue -- SBC??? YAAASSSSS!!!!

2021-04-06 Thread Dwight Giles via Mercedes
Great. Why we buy Mercedes.

Dwight Giles Jr.
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On Tue, Apr 6, 2021, 10:47 AM Floyd Thursby via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> Well. Spoke to the stealer this morning and the service rep says the
> accumulator will be covered under the SBC warranty.  There would be a
> charge for scanning it but if it is indeed the SBC (which it is) then
> there will be no charge for the diagnostic.  AND. [drum roll] he
> told me to call Mercedes roadside assistance and they would pick the car
> up for free and bring it in!
>
> He also said it is possible that the SB fault would be causing the limp
> mode, which is what I started thinking.  I should probably look at the
> RR air strut issue, it is throwing a code but no problems with it, I
> think it might just be a sensor or connector.
>
> Hot damn this could work out really well.  Fixed for free and will
> probably get a wash out of it too!  I guess I would need to go fetch it
> with the trailer after they deal with it since I don't have plates for
> it yet, but that isn't a biggie.
>
> This could work out really well.  I might even spring for a detailer
> come clean it, it is a pretty nice car and for $900 in it I will not
> begrudge a few $$ to get it looking nice. I'm not sure what I would do
> with it, don't really need it but the 500 is a LOT of fun to drive.  I
> guess I could sell it and make some good bank.
>
> --FT
>
> On 4/5/21 10:50 PM, Buggered Benzmail wrote:
> > Gotcha. I already know the problem is clearly part of the SBC, I just
> don’t know if they will see it as a covered part even though it is clearly
> part of the system
> >
> > --FT
> > Sent from iPhone
> >
> >> On Apr 5, 2021, at 8:10 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> I’m just saying… when I spoke to my dealer about checking the SBC on
> the eldest son’s E320 CDI they said that they would charge me a diagnostic
> fee if the issue wasn’t warranty related to the SBC.
> >>
> >> -D
> >>
> >>
> >>> On Apr 5, 2021, at 7:54 PM, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> So if I’m gonna get charged $100 or something for a scan then I might
> as well just buy the part and install it myself. I’ll see what they say
> tomorrow. Thanks...
> >>>
> >>> --FT
> >>> Sent from iPhone
> >>>
> > On Apr 5, 2021, at 6:38 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
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Re: [MBZ] More thinkings on the $900E500 limp mode issue -- SBC??? YAAASSSSS!!!!

2021-04-06 Thread Floyd Thursby via Mercedes
Well. Spoke to the stealer this morning and the service rep says the 
accumulator will be covered under the SBC warranty.  There would be a 
charge for scanning it but if it is indeed the SBC (which it is) then 
there will be no charge for the diagnostic.  AND. [drum roll] he 
told me to call Mercedes roadside assistance and they would pick the car 
up for free and bring it in!


He also said it is possible that the SB fault would be causing the limp 
mode, which is what I started thinking.  I should probably look at the 
RR air strut issue, it is throwing a code but no problems with it, I 
think it might just be a sensor or connector.


Hot damn this could work out really well.  Fixed for free and will 
probably get a wash out of it too!  I guess I would need to go fetch it 
with the trailer after they deal with it since I don't have plates for 
it yet, but that isn't a biggie.


This could work out really well.  I might even spring for a detailer 
come clean it, it is a pretty nice car and for $900 in it I will not 
begrudge a few $$ to get it looking nice. I'm not sure what I would do 
with it, don't really need it but the 500 is a LOT of fun to drive.  I 
guess I could sell it and make some good bank.


--FT

On 4/5/21 10:50 PM, Buggered Benzmail wrote:

Gotcha. I already know the problem is clearly part of the SBC, I just don’t 
know if they will see it as a covered part even though it is clearly part of 
the system

--FT
Sent from iPhone


On Apr 5, 2021, at 8:10 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes  
wrote:

I’m just saying… when I spoke to my dealer about checking the SBC on the 
eldest son’s E320 CDI they said that they would charge me a diagnostic fee if 
the issue wasn’t warranty related to the SBC.

-D



On Apr 5, 2021, at 7:54 PM, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes 
 wrote:

So if I’m gonna get charged $100 or something for a scan then I might as well 
just buy the part and install it myself. I’ll see what they say tomorrow. 
Thanks...

--FT
Sent from iPhone


On Apr 5, 2021, at 6:38 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes  
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Re: [MBZ] More thinkings on the $900E500 limp mode issue -- SBC???

2021-04-05 Thread Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes
Gotcha. I already know the problem is clearly part of the SBC, I just don’t 
know if they will see it as a covered part even though it is clearly part of 
the system 

--FT
Sent from iPhone

> On Apr 5, 2021, at 8:10 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> I’m just saying… when I spoke to my dealer about checking the SBC on the 
> eldest son’s E320 CDI they said that they would charge me a diagnostic fee if 
> the issue wasn’t warranty related to the SBC.
> 
> -D
> 
> 
>> On Apr 5, 2021, at 7:54 PM, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> So if I’m gonna get charged $100 or something for a scan then I might as 
>> well just buy the part and install it myself. I’ll see what they say 
>> tomorrow. Thanks...
>> 
>> --FT
>> Sent from iPhone
>> 
 On Apr 5, 2021, at 6:38 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes 
  wrote:
>>> 
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Re: [MBZ] More thinkings on the $900E500 limp mode issue -- SBC???

2021-04-05 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
I’m just saying… when I spoke to my dealer about checking the SBC on the eldest 
son’s E320 CDI they said that they would charge me a diagnostic fee if the 
issue wasn’t warranty related to the SBC.

-D


> On Apr 5, 2021, at 7:54 PM, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> So if I’m gonna get charged $100 or something for a scan then I might as well 
> just buy the part and install it myself. I’ll see what they say tomorrow. 
> Thanks...
> 
> --FT
> Sent from iPhone
> 
>> On Apr 5, 2021, at 6:38 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes  
>> wrote:
>> 
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Re: [MBZ] More thinkings on the $900E500 limp mode issue -- SBC???

2021-04-05 Thread Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes
So if I’m gonna get charged $100 or something for a scan then I might as well 
just buy the part and install it myself. I’ll see what they say tomorrow. 
Thanks...

--FT
Sent from iPhone

> On Apr 5, 2021, at 6:38 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes  
> wrote:
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Re: [MBZ] More thinkings on the $900E500 limp mode issue -- SBC???

2021-04-05 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
Thye won’t be able to tell you until they can get it into a bay and check it 
out. You’ll probably get dinged with a diagnostic charge no matter what, but if 
the SBC is whacked, everything else is covered.

-D

> On Apr 5, 2021, at 5:22 PM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> So some further research shows that a fault in the SBC system *might* throw 
> the car into limp mode.  It has a pressure reservoir fault.  And spirited 
> acceleration along with an SBC fault might also do limp mode.  That happened 
> when I was driving the car and the trans was shifting fine and I jumped on it 
> and BANG! limp mode.  The Brake Nanny protecting me!
> 
> I tried calling the stealer this afternoon and got no answer after waiting 
> about 15min on hold.  So I called MBUSA and after about 10min got hold of 
> Theresa who was very nice and looked up the car, determining it has not had 
> any dealer interaction since 07 (imagine that), and nothing on the SBC. SBC 
> is also warranteed until Jan 2029 so I have 8 more years on that!  She did 
> not know what parts of the SBC were covered, there did not seem to be any 
> distinction on that.  She suggested I get hold of the stealer service dept to 
> find out what they say.  So I'll do that tomorrow.  If they can deal with it 
> under the warranty I will drag the car over there on the trailer and dump it 
> on them.
> 
> If they give me a runaround I'll just get the part ($72 @ FCPEuro) and 
> replace it and see if that clears the SBC fault and the limp mode.  I'm kinda 
> thinking this might be the issue since the trans wasn't working, then it was, 
> then it wasn't then it was... and that needs to be replaced anyway.
> 
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[MBZ] More thinkings on the $900E500 limp mode issue -- SBC???

2021-04-05 Thread Floyd Thursby via Mercedes
So some further research shows that a fault in the SBC system *might* 
throw the car into limp mode.  It has a pressure reservoir fault.  And 
spirited acceleration along with an SBC fault might also do limp mode.  
That happened when I was driving the car and the trans was shifting fine 
and I jumped on it and BANG! limp mode.  The Brake Nanny protecting me!


I tried calling the stealer this afternoon and got no answer after 
waiting about 15min on hold.  So I called MBUSA and after about 10min 
got hold of Theresa who was very nice and looked up the car, determining 
it has not had any dealer interaction since 07 (imagine that), and 
nothing on the SBC. SBC is also warranteed until Jan 2029 so I have 8 
more years on that!  She did not know what parts of the SBC were 
covered, there did not seem to be any distinction on that.  She 
suggested I get hold of the stealer service dept to find out what they 
say.  So I'll do that tomorrow.  If they can deal with it under the 
warranty I will drag the car over there on the trailer and dump it on them.


If they give me a runaround I'll just get the part ($72 @ FCPEuro) and 
replace it and see if that clears the SBC fault and the limp mode.  I'm 
kinda thinking this might be the issue since the trans wasn't working, 
then it was, then it wasn't then it was... and that needs to be replaced 
anyway.


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