Re: [MBZ] Need to call this Forum Everything BUT Mercedes Forum

2008-01-30 Thread Luther
Opera is one.

Luther

On Tue, 29 Jan 2008 16:50:44 -0600, Allan Streib [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 If you're going to read newsgroups or subscribe to mail lists, you
 really need to do yourself a favor and get a good mail client.
 Microsoft Outlook is not one.  Apple OS X Mail is not one.
 Thunderbird last I used it is not one.  Web clients are not either.

 You need to be able to sort by thread, author, subject, date at
 minimum.  Most can do that, though all but a few are very weak at
 keeping threads together if someone alters the
  Subject: line.

 You need to be able to killfile authors, subjects, and threads so
 you never see them again even if they are active.

 The really best mail readers that I know of are all text based, and
 tend to be arcane for a lot of people.  There must be one or two good
 GUI ones though --- unfortunately I don't know what they are.

 Allan





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Re: [MBZ] Need to call this Forum Everything BUT Mercedes Forum

2008-01-30 Thread Rick Knoble
 We do get off track but this is one aspect that makes the group
 interesting.
 
 Post a Mercedes related question  see how many responses you get.
 
 Tom
 www.kegkits.com

Absolutely. You can ask a question on most any topic on this forum and the 
correct answer, if there is one, will be posted in a day or two. And that 
INCLUDES MB questions. I was on the yahell groups MB diesel list in addition to 
this one and quit because of all the mis-information being handed out. I 
rebutted a lot of it at the time, but I just couldn't do it all. There are 
plenty of straight shooters on this list, both literally and figuratively. 

Rick Knoble 
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'87 190 DT

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[MBZ] Need to call this Forum Everything BUT Mercedes Forum

2008-01-29 Thread RICHARD FIne

I lurk here daily and I find very little posted here of any Mercedes value...
 
 
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Re: [MBZ] Need to call this Forum Everything BUT Mercedes Forum

2008-01-29 Thread George Larribeau
Does it need the OT tag if the word Mercedes is in the subject line but 
it's contents is not != Mercedes ??
What a kundrum 

George Larribeau
Dallas Texas



 And that would be great, if folks always bothered to add the OT 
 tag...which
 ironically is missing on this one



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Re: [MBZ] Need to call this Forum Everything BUT Mercedes Forum

2008-01-29 Thread Gary Hurst
we follow the talmudic model

On Jan 29, 2008 2:15 PM, RICHARD FIne [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


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Re: [MBZ] Need to call this Forum Everything BUT Mercedes Forum

2008-01-29 Thread E M
Like most clubs or groups, you get out what you put in.  The rule seems to
be holding true.

Ed
300E

On 29/01/2008, RICHARD FIne [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


 I lurk here daily and I find very little posted here of any Mercedes
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Re: [MBZ] Need to call this Forum Everything BUT Mercedes Forum

2008-01-29 Thread R A Bennell
There has been a lot of MB stuff too. Not always about repairs etc but quite a 
bit of what do you think sort of
thread. Won't get much about the car from me at this time of year as it is 
sitting tight in my garage waiting for
warmer weather. Won't drive it until at least April sometime and won't get to 
work on it until then either as it is
too cold. Sometimes a thought about future maintenance crops up but mostly my 
repair type queries will occur during
the warmer time of year.

Randy

-Original Message-
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Subject: Re: [MBZ] Need to call this Forum Everything BUT Mercedes
Forum


You are correct, not sure if that is just an observation or a value
statement.  But think of it as a community of people with one major
common interest who also like to discuss other things of interest, as
you might do at a car club meet or when you sit together for a beer or
while you are working on your car together.  Have some fun, learn
something about your Benz or other things, or use that key that says
Delete as much as you want or just ignore it altogether.

Not saying any of that in a mean way -- back some years ago when I was
part of a group of people who thought and worked a lot on what a
networked community needed to come into existence and thrive, the
immediacy and asynchronicity of email and discussion groups and that
internetubes thing was viewed as a necessary enabler of a community.
Not everyone would always participate, and not always in the prescribed
manner, but that was the great thing about a community.  And a lot of
that stuff has evolved in very interesting (and some not so interesting)
ways.  But you always have a choice to participate or not, as much or as
little as you want.  And if you don't like it (or even if you do), there
is a wondrous array of alternatives for you.

--R


RICHARD FIne wrote:
 I lurk here daily and I find very little posted here of any Mercedes value...


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Re: [MBZ] Need to call this Forum Everything BUT Mercedes Forum

2008-01-29 Thread Rich Thomas
You are correct, not sure if that is just an observation or a value 
statement.  But think of it as a community of people with one major 
common interest who also like to discuss other things of interest, as 
you might do at a car club meet or when you sit together for a beer or 
while you are working on your car together.  Have some fun, learn 
something about your Benz or other things, or use that key that says 
Delete as much as you want or just ignore it altogether.

Not saying any of that in a mean way -- back some years ago when I was 
part of a group of people who thought and worked a lot on what a 
networked community needed to come into existence and thrive, the 
immediacy and asynchronicity of email and discussion groups and that 
internetubes thing was viewed as a necessary enabler of a community.  
Not everyone would always participate, and not always in the prescribed 
manner, but that was the great thing about a community.  And a lot of 
that stuff has evolved in very interesting (and some not so interesting) 
ways.  But you always have a choice to participate or not, as much or as 
little as you want.  And if you don't like it (or even if you do), there 
is a wondrous array of alternatives for you.

--R


RICHARD FIne wrote:
 I lurk here daily and I find very little posted here of any Mercedes value...
  
  
 Rick
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Re: [MBZ] Need to call this Forum Everything BUT Mercedes Forum

2008-01-29 Thread Walt Lasher
I get 10 to 20 list a day. I check the first one and the last one and if
there is too much OT I will delete all the other ones. 
Now this is an injustice to the legitimate entries. 
People who want to find a good answer for a Mercedes question are lost in
the maze.
I don't think I have read more than a dozen questions in the last year and
certainly haven't contributed to any discussions due to this OT problem. 
As someone said a while back, it is an open form and anything goes (that was
about the time I stopped reading all the questions) but IMHO I believe we
need to go back to the original form of Mercedes questions or at least
questions pertaining to cars.

Walt Lasher
Seattle
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Re: [MBZ] Need to call this Forum Everything BUT Mercedes Forum

2008-01-29 Thread Tom Hargrave
We do get off track but this is one aspect that makes the group
interesting.

Post a Mercedes related question  see how many responses you get.

Tom
www.kegkits.com

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To: mercedes@okiebenz.com
CC: 
Subject: [MBZ] Need to call this Forum Everything BUT Mercedes Forum


I lurk here daily and I find very little posted here of any Mercedes
value...
 
 
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Re: [MBZ] Need to call this Forum Everything BUT Mercedes Forum

2008-01-29 Thread dave walton
Create a filter to dump Subject lines beginning with [MBZ] OT and
Re: [MBZ] OT and you will miss the bulk of it.

-Dave Walton


On Jan 29, 2008 2:41 PM, Rich Thomas
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 You are correct, not sure if that is just an observation or a value
 statement.  But think of it as a community of people with one major
 common interest who also like to discuss other things of interest, as
 you might do at a car club meet or when you sit together for a beer or
 while you are working on your car together.  Have some fun, learn
 something about your Benz or other things, or use that key that says
 Delete as much as you want or just ignore it altogether.

 Not saying any of that in a mean way -- back some years ago when I was
 part of a group of people who thought and worked a lot on what a
 networked community needed to come into existence and thrive, the
 immediacy and asynchronicity of email and discussion groups and that
 internetubes thing was viewed as a necessary enabler of a community.
 Not everyone would always participate, and not always in the prescribed
 manner, but that was the great thing about a community.  And a lot of
 that stuff has evolved in very interesting (and some not so interesting)
 ways.  But you always have a choice to participate or not, as much or as
 little as you want.  And if you don't like it (or even if you do), there
 is a wondrous array of alternatives for you.

 --R



 RICHARD FIne wrote:
  I lurk here daily and I find very little posted here of any Mercedes 
  value...
 
 
  Rick
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Re: [MBZ] Need to call this Forum Everything BUT Mercedes Forum

2008-01-29 Thread Zeitgeist
And that would be great, if folks always bothered to add the OT tag...which
ironically is missing on this one


On Jan 29, 2008 11:45 AM, dave walton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Create a filter to dump Subject lines beginning with [MBZ] OT and
 Re: [MBZ] OT and you will miss the bulk of it.


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Re: [MBZ] Need to call this Forum Everything BUT Mercedes Forum

2008-01-29 Thread Rusty Cullens
I thought it was the Maimonidean one?


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Sent: Tuesday, January 29, 2008 3:26 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Need to call this Forum Everything BUT Mercedes Forum


 we follow the talmudic model
 
 On Jan 29, 2008 2:15 PM, RICHARD FIne [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 

 I lurk here daily and I find very little posted here of any Mercedes
 value...


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Re: [MBZ] Need to call this Forum Everything BUT Mercedes Forum

2008-01-29 Thread Tom Hargrave
I just sort by subject  delete accordingly.

And there have been many more than a dozen questions posted over the
last year - I've answered more than a dozen myself in the last 3 months.

Tom
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From: Walt Lasher [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Received: 1/29/08 5:08 PM
To: Mercedes List Mercedes@okiebenz.com
CC: 
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Need to call this Forum Everything BUT Mercedes
Forum

I get 10 to 20 list a day. I check the first one and the last one and if
there is too much OT I will delete all the other ones. 
Now this is an injustice to the legitimate entries. 
People who want to find a good answer for a Mercedes question are lost
in
the maze.
I don't think I have read more than a dozen questions in the last year
and
certainly haven't contributed to any discussions due to this OT
problem. 
As someone said a while back, it is an open form and anything goes (that
was
about the time I stopped reading all the questions) but IMHO I believe
we
need to go back to the original form of Mercedes questions or at least
questions pertaining to cars.

Walt Lasher
Seattle
W140 S350/300SD
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Re: [MBZ] Need to call this Forum Everything BUT Mercedes Forum

2008-01-29 Thread Allan Streib
If you're going to read newsgroups or subscribe to mail lists, you
really need to do yourself a favor and get a good mail client.
Microsoft Outlook is not one.  Apple OS X Mail is not one.
Thunderbird last I used it is not one.  Web clients are not either.

You need to be able to sort by thread, author, subject, date at
minimum.  Most can do that, though all but a few are very weak at
keeping threads together if someone alters the
 Subject: line.

You need to be able to killfile authors, subjects, and threads so
you never see them again even if they are active.

The really best mail readers that I know of are all text based, and
tend to be arcane for a lot of people.  There must be one or two good
GUI ones though --- unfortunately I don't know what they are. 

Allan


-- 
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1966 230

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Re: [MBZ] Need to call this Forum Everything BUT Mercedes Forum

2008-01-29 Thread Peter T . Arnold
I've been using Fort AGENT for about 10 years, it's 100% in my small
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On Tue, 29 Jan 2008 17:50:44 -0500, you wrote:

If you're going to read newsgroups or subscribe to mail lists, you
really need to do yourself a favor and get a good mail client.
Microsoft Outlook is not one.  Apple OS X Mail is not one.
Thunderbird last I used it is not one.  Web clients are not either.

You need to be able to sort by thread, author, subject, date at
minimum.  Most can do that, though all but a few are very weak at
keeping threads together if someone alters the
 Subject: line.

You need to be able to killfile authors, subjects, and threads so
you never see them again even if they are active.

The really best mail readers that I know of are all text based, and
tend to be arcane for a lot of people.  There must be one or two good
GUI ones though --- unfortunately I don't know what they are. 

Allan

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Re: [MBZ] Need to call this Forum Everything BUT Mercedes Forum

2008-01-29 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
Rick, thanks for your comment.  Perhaps a better post would be to ask a 
question or answer somebody's question rather than to make such a 
non-post.  Just a thought.

RICHARD FIne wrote:
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Re: [MBZ] Need to call this Forum Everything BUT Mercedes Forum

2008-01-29 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
Well then post something about cars rather than posting complaints. 
That is the quickest way to get more on topic stuff.

Walt Lasher wrote:
 I get 10 to 20 list a day. I check the first one and the last one and if
 there is too much OT I will delete all the other ones. 
 Now this is an injustice to the legitimate entries. 
 People who want to find a good answer for a Mercedes question are lost in
 the maze.
 I don't think I have read more than a dozen questions in the last year and
 certainly haven't contributed to any discussions due to this OT problem. 
 As someone said a while back, it is an open form and anything goes (that was
 about the time I stopped reading all the questions) but IMHO I believe we
 need to go back to the original form of Mercedes questions or at least
 questions pertaining to cars.
 
 Walt Lasher
 Seattle
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Re: [MBZ] Need to call this Forum Everything BUT Mercedes Forum

2008-01-29 Thread Hendrik Fay
Well perhaps instead of lurking you could post some MB relevant stuff.
Most internet lists are the same, unless they are ruled with an iron 
fist and those are usually boring and lifeless.

Hendrik

RICHARD FIne wrote:
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Re: [MBZ] Need to call this Forum Everything BUT Mercedes Forum

2008-01-29 Thread Mitch Haley


Hendrik  Fay wrote:
 
 Well perhaps instead of lurking you could post some MB relevant stuff.

Especially Casey. How's the intercooled OM603 doing?
Now we can talk about that without making Marshall groan. 
Mitch.

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Re: [MBZ] Need to call this Forum Everything BUT Mercedes Forum

2008-01-29 Thread Wonko the Sane
There are no more answers to be had, so no need to post questions --
Marshall took all unarchived knowledge with him when he left.

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Re: [MBZ] Need to call this Forum Everything BUT Mercedes Forum

2008-01-29 Thread archer

I click the subject heading in Outlook Express.  That groups the 
submissions according to the subjects title.  I then open one of the subject 
titles to see if it interests me.  If not, I delete everything with that 
title.  it only takes a few minutes and I seldom miss anything I'm 
interested in.

Simply because of the large volume of OT compared to repair questions, I 
would suggest that those with repair questions head their subject line with 
the word REPAIR in capital letters, or some similar word.  Clicking on 
Subject at the top of the subject column would then group the repair 
questions and answers together and all the remaining OT could be discarded 
if the member was not interested.
Gerry
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From: Walt Lasher [EMAIL PROTECTED]
I get 10 to 20 list a day. I check the first one and the last one and if
 there is too much OT I will delete all the other ones.
 Now this is an injustice to the legitimate entries.
 People who want to find a good answer for a Mercedes question are lost in
 the maze.
 I don't think I have read more than a dozen questions in the last year and
 certainly haven't contributed to any discussions due to this OT problem.
 As someone said a while back, it is an open form and anything goes (that 
 was
 about the time I stopped reading all the questions) but IMHO I believe we
 need to go back to the original form of Mercedes questions or at least
 questions pertaining to cars.
 Walt Lasher


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