Re: [MBZ] OT: Buying a car in WA
Simply put you can't make those kind of blanket statements with any kind of assuredness. Here in MA driving without plates will get you pulled over, the car towed and impounded and a hefty fine. MA also doesn't recognize temp plates from ANY state. When I bought Hammie I was going to get NJ temp plates to drive home on but my insurance company wouldn't insure me. I checked with the state and sure enough they're illegal. I asked about other states and technically speaking the state doesn't recognize them. In practice I've seen lots of cars with temp plates so I guess thats something they don't really enforce. -Curt Date: Sat, 14 Jan 2006 20:09:07 -0600 From: Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: Buying a car in WA To: Mercedes Discussion List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed this was discussed in great length, simply put, you are fine. If you do get pulled over just show the cop your bill of sale. David Brodbeck wrote: Is it necessary to have a temporary permit to drive a newly-purchased car home, in WA? In MI, where I used to live, it's legal to drive without a plate to the first place of storage, but I can't find any info on whether that's legal here. ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE, 85 300D, 84 250 LWB, 83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 81 240D, 76 450SEL, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 69 250 http://www.striplin.net - Yahoo! Photos Got holiday prints? See all the ways to get quality prints in your hands ASAP. - Yahoo! Photos Showcase holiday pictures in hardcover Photo Books. You design it and well bind it! From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Mon Jan 16 01:42:09 2006 Received: from mxa.windwireless.net ([199.164.167.40]) by server5.arterytc5.net with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1EyJNp-0006TV-4y for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Mon, 16 Jan 2006 01:42:09 + Received: from dogear.com (IP-206-63-94-251.progress.wi-fi.windwireless.net [206.63.94.251] (may be forged)) by mxa.windwireless.net (8.12.9/8.12.9) with ESMTP id k0G1gSfv030096 for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Sun, 15 Jan 2006 17:42:28 -0800 Date: Sun, 15 Jan 2006 17:42:07 -0800 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v552) From: Jim Cathey [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In-Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message-Id: [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.552) X-Virus-Scan: smtp-vilter X-SMTP-Vilter-Version: 1.1.0rc2 X-SMTP-Vilter-Backend: Clam AntiVirus Daemon (clamd) X-SMTP-Vilter-Status: clean X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-2.0rc4 (mxa.windwireless.net [199.164.167.40]); Sun, 15 Jan 2006 17:42:28 -0800 (PST) X-Antivirus-Scanner: Clean mail though you should still use an Antivirus Subject: Re: [MBZ] I need your opinions on this HF oil extractor! X-BeenThere: [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.6 Precedence: list Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List [EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Id: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes_striplin.net.striplin.net List-Unsubscribe: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net, mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Archive: http://striplin.net/pipermail/mercedes_striplin.net List-Post: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Help: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Subscribe: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net, mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 16 Jan 2006 01:42:09 - Regardless of all the hype, it still is perfectly OK to pull the drain plug when changing oil. At least then you can use one of the washers that comes with your new oil filter. Of course not having to lift the front of the car is easier, and if your car has a belly pan a topsider is _very_ superior. -- Jim
Re: [MBZ] OT: Buying a car in WA
MA also doesn't recognize temp plates from ANY state. When I bought Hammie I was going to get NJ temp plates to drive home on but my insurance company wouldn't insure me. I checked with the state and sure enough they're illegal. I asked about other states and technically speaking the state doesn't recognize them. In practice I've seen lots of cars with temp plates so I guess thats something they don't really enforce. I'm sure that if one were to take it to the Supremes the faith-and-credit clause of the constitution would win the day. That is, so long as _your_ state is OK with the type of temporary licensing you did then any state you are traveling through is required to be. And good luck with that fight! In practice I'm sure they have arranged it to be so painful and fogged with FUD that everybody pays _extra_ fees just to avoid trouble. WA's trip permit seems very sensible. Good for three days or so, at a relatively modest fee. Certainly nothing anybody would want to do for very long, the regular license is cheaper by far (per hour). -- Jim
[MBZ] OT: Buying a car in WA
Is it necessary to have a temporary permit to drive a newly-purchased car home, in WA? In MI, where I used to live, it's legal to drive without a plate to the first place of storage, but I can't find any info on whether that's legal here.
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AFAIK, you can never drive here in WA without either some visible plates or a temp permit. You must also be able to provide proof of insurance should you be pulled over. On 1/14/06, David Brodbeck [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Is it necessary to have a temporary permit to drive a newly-purchased car home, in WA? In MI, where I used to live, it's legal to drive without a plate to the first place of storage, but I can't find any info on whether that's legal here. Casey Olympia, WA Biodiesel: I drive in a persistent vegetative state '87 300TD intercooler (211k) '84 300D (207k) Gashuffer: '89 Vanagon Wolfsburg Edition (186K)
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This state also requires plates, both front and back. On 1/14/06, Zeitgeist [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: AFAIK, you can never drive here in WA without either some visible plates or a temp permit. You must also be able to provide proof of insurance should you be pulled over. Casey Olympia, WA Biodiesel: I drive in a persistent vegetative state '87 300TD intercooler (211k) '84 300D (207k) Gashuffer: '89 Vanagon Wolfsburg Edition (186K)
Re: [MBZ] OT: Buying a car in WA
this was discussed in great length, simply put, you are fine. If you do get pulled over just show the cop your bill of sale. David Brodbeck wrote: Is it necessary to have a temporary permit to drive a newly-purchased car home, in WA? In MI, where I used to live, it's legal to drive without a plate to the first place of storage, but I can't find any info on whether that's legal here. ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE, 85 300D, 84 250 LWB, 83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 81 240D, 76 450SEL, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 69 250 http://www.striplin.net
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If you drive anything in WA that isn't the way they want it, be prepared to be pulled over and have your entire life gone through. Not worth it, get whatever transit goodies that you need to be legal and they'll most likely leave you alone. -Robert Brodbeck wrote: Is it necessary to have a temporary permit to drive a newly-purchased car home, in WA? In MI, where I used to live, it's legal to drive without a plate to the first place of storage, but I can't find any info on whether that's legal here. ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net
Re: [MBZ] OT: Buying a car in WA
A Trip Permit is required but is good only in the State of WA. Other States issue a permit that is valid in all States. I was advised to stop in OR and obtain another permit as I headed South to CA. At least that is the way it was 4 years ago. WA always needs to be a little different. On 1/14/06, Robert Tara Ludwick [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If you drive anything in WA that isn't the way they want it, be prepared to be pulled over and have your entire life gone through. Not worth it, get whatever transit goodies that you need to be legal and they'll most likely leave you alone. -Robert Brodbeck wrote: Is it necessary to have a temporary permit to drive a newly-purchased car home, in WA? In MI, where I used to live, it's legal to drive without a plate to the first place of storage, but I can't find any info on whether that's legal here. ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- John Freer Palm Springs, CA 1992 500 SEL 140K Stardust 1985 380SL 145K Blue Belle
Re: [MBZ] OT: Buying a car in WA
Is it necessary to have a temporary permit to drive a newly-purchased car home, in WA? In MI, where I used to live, it's legal to drive without a plate to the first place of storage, but I can't find any info on whether that's legal here. When in doubt, follow the money. WA sells temporary permits, so ipso facto it's not legal to drive without a license of some sort. But so far as I know you only need the temp permits for something that doesn't already have some valid license in some state. That is, a driver that you just bought is fine. Some resurrected hulk, or say, a Mog from Germany, and you need the temp permit. -- Jim
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Robert Tara Ludwick wrote: If you drive anything in WA that isn't the way they want it, be prepared to be pulled over and have your entire life gone through. Not worth it, get whatever transit goodies that you need to be legal and they'll most likely leave you alone. The reason I asked is it's frustratingly difficult to find out what *is* required to be legal. The DOL website has almost nothing; they seem to assume you'll be buying from a dealer. I can't find anything on the website about whether a temporary permit is required or even available. In Michigan temporary permits were available but weren't needed for the initial trip to where you were going to store the car, only after.
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Jim Cathey wrote: That is, a driver that you just bought is fine. Some resurrected hulk, or say, a Mog from Germany, and you need the temp permit. But won't the previous owner take off their plates when I buy the car? Or do they stay with the car, here?
Re: [MBZ] OT: Buying a car in WA
Tell us where the car is currently. If the car is purchased here in WA, unless they're vanity plates, they'll stay with the car. Other states may pull them, but not typically here in WA. On 1/14/06, David Brodbeck [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Jim Cathey wrote: That is, a driver that you just bought is fine. Some resurrected hulk, or say, a Mog from Germany, and you need the temp permit. But won't the previous owner take off their plates when I buy the car? Or do they stay with the car, here? Casey Olympia, WA Biodiesel: I drive in a persistent vegetative state '87 300TD intercooler (211k) '84 300D (207k) Gashuffer: '89 Vanagon Wolfsburg Edition (186K)
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Zeitgeist wrote: Tell us where the car is currently. If the car is purchased here in WA, unless they're vanity plates, they'll stay with the car. Other states may pull them, but not typically here in WA. It's currently in WA. Michigan, where I used to live, required the seller to pull the plates and keep them, hence my confusion I suppose.
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But won't the previous owner take off their plates when I buy the car? Or do they stay with the car, here? Here in WA, plates stay with the car. (Unless 'special', like vanity plates or WW2 veterans, etc.) -- Jim
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Most states you just go to the motor vehicle dept with copy of your current insurance card( it's good on new purchase for 10 days, if you really want to impress them, get the new cars VIN# and get it on your insurance ahead of time and have them fax you a card for the car, it makes things go very smooth. I've done this buying a few vehicles in different states ) and buy a drive away permit. It's been a few years since I lived in WA and had to deal with the gestapo there, but those cops had absolutely no sense of humor. When I moved up there, first day before even getting the furniture unloaded, i got pulled over for out of state tags and run through a serious ringer ( and heavily fined for having out of state plates because they ran utility records and found I had power in my name in WA...heck, I hadn't even moved in yet ) . You don't want to attract those guys attention. Probably have to call the vehicle dept direct to get the info , doesn't hurt to call twice and talk to two different people so you can figure out what they are forgetting to tell you. Robert David Brodbeck wrote: Robert Tara Ludwick wrote: If you drive anything in WA that isn't the way they want it, be prepared to be pulled over and have your entire life gone through. Not worth it, get whatever transit goodies that you need to be legal and they'll most likely leave you alone. The reason I asked is it's frustratingly difficult to find out what *is* required to be legal. The DOL website has almost nothing; they seem to assume you'll be buying from a dealer. I can't find anything on the website about whether a temporary permit is required or even available. In Michigan temporary permits were available but weren't needed for the initial trip to where you were going to store the car, only after. ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net
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Even if the plates stay with the car, best to take care of temp registration for your own protection, if the PO has a stack of parking tickets or worse on that tag, you'll be taking an unscheduled vacation. -Robert David Brodbeck wrote: Zeitgeist wrote: Tell us where the car is currently. If the car is purchased here in WA, unless they're vanity plates, they'll stay with the car. Other states may pull them, but not typically here in WA. It's currently in WA. Michigan, where I used to live, required the seller to pull the plates and keep them, hence my confusion I suppose. ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net
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The problem with getting the insurance ahead of time is that if you show up and the car is a POS and you dont buy it, then you have to cancel the insurance. In OK and many other states Im sure if you buy insurance on a car then cancel it within 6 months or so, the state will suspend your license. Then in order to unsuspend it you have to send them proof you either didnt buy the car or sold it. Its a pain. Its supposed to stop people from buying cars, getting insurance to obtain a tag, then cancel the insurance after they have the tag. It ends up getting more innocent people though. Robert Tara Ludwick wrote: Most states you just go to the motor vehicle dept with copy of your current insurance card( it's good on new purchase for 10 days, if you really want to impress them, get the new cars VIN# and get it on your insurance ahead of time and have them fax you a card for the car, it makes things go very smooth. I've done this buying a few vehicles in different states ) and buy a drive away permit. It's been a few years since I lived in WA and had to deal with the gestapo there, but those cops had absolutely no sense of humor. When I moved up there, first day before even getting the furniture unloaded, i got pulled over for out of state tags and run through a serious ringer ( and heavily fined for having out of state plates because they ran utility records and found I had power in my name in WA...heck, I hadn't even moved in yet ) . You don't want to attract those guys attention. Probably have to call the vehicle dept direct to get the info , doesn't hurt to call twice and talk to two different people so you can figure out what they are forgetting to tell you. -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE, 85 300D, 84 250 LWB, 83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 81 240D, 76 450SEL, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 69 250 http://www.striplin.net
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Not if you have a bill of sale. Robert Tara Ludwick wrote: Even if the plates stay with the car, best to take care of temp registration for your own protection, if the PO has a stack of parking tickets or worse on that tag, you'll be taking an unscheduled vacation. -Robert David Brodbeck wrote: Zeitgeist wrote: Tell us where the car is currently. If the car is purchased here in WA, unless they're vanity plates, they'll stay with the car. Other states may pull them, but not typically here in WA. It's currently in WA. Michigan, where I used to live, required the seller to pull the plates and keep them, hence my confusion I suppose. ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE, 85 300D, 84 250 LWB, 83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 81 240D, 76 450SEL, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 69 250 http://www.striplin.net
Re: [MBZ] OT: Buying a car in WA
In OK and many other states Im sure if you buy insurance on a car then cancel it within 6 months or so, the state will suspend your license. Well, we do this every few months or so when we switch our active set of cars around. -- Jim
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good morning...just spoke with the state patrol office and was told: 1.if the car has a current tag, nothing more needed unless purchased as a wreck 2. insurance is technically required, but it depends on the trooper who stops you if this is inforced on the drive home (bill of sale and proximity to the story being told very important) -- Original message -- From: Robert Tara Ludwick [EMAIL PROTECTED] Even if the plates stay with the car, best to take care of temp registration for your own protection, if the PO has a stack of parking tickets or worse on that tag, you'll be taking an unscheduled vacation. -Robert David Brodbeck wrote: Zeitgeist wrote: Tell us where the car is currently. If the car is purchased here in WA, unless they're vanity plates, they'll stay with the car. Other states may pull them, but not typically here in WA. It's currently in WA. Michigan, where I used to live, required the seller to pull the plates and keep them, hence my confusion I suppose. ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sun Jan 15 18:50:55 2006 Received: from xproxy.gmail.com ([66.249.82.195]) by server5.arterytc5.net with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1EyCxr-0001OH-5s for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Sun, 15 Jan 2006 18:50:55 + Received: by xproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id s11so973354wxc for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Sun, 15 Jan 2006 10:50:52 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=H0LGmlN3gr8P6lOf7Q2UOVHq+3pfrrZ/2lBwRXNlEyC5Av+sC4/M42LkMdeIfCeAiDDc6wwMCuA4e7883jw8QsAdYkXBrTGIovCdgUTqod+ojBC7kI/p+aE7nTs0u79a/pJeIPlHSU3EYCakekJOiGm7JTHcIvwzC863n5/11mU= Received: by 10.70.128.17 with SMTP id a17mr6684106wxd; Sun, 15 Jan 2006 10:50:52 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.70.123.14 with HTTP; Sun, 15 Jan 2006 10:50:52 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Sun, 15 Jan 2006 12:50:52 -0600 From: OK Don [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List [EMAIL PROTECTED] In-Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline References: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-Antivirus-Scanner: Clean mail though you should still use an Antivirus Subject: Re: [MBZ] Q for the Mac guys X-BeenThere: [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.6 Precedence: list Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List [EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Id: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes_striplin.net.striplin.net List-Unsubscribe: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net, mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Archive: http://striplin.net/pipermail/mercedes_striplin.net List-Post: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Help: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Subscribe: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net, mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 15 Jan 2006 18:50:56 - The toughbook series has a good reputation, though it's pricey. I perfer the Compaq/HP commercial line - the EVO Nxxx series. On 1/15/06, Fmiser [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: rumor has it that Loren wrote: Gateways seem to be disasters, Dells , as you say have problems, and I know of problems with sony and toshiba too. Nobody I know uses thinkpa= ds, and they are no longer IBM. Bummer Doesn't leave much to choose from except no-names This old dell weighs about 28 pounds. Probably why it is a survivor. What about Panasonic? Philip, with a just-died Thinkpad and a new-for-me Toughbook ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- OK Don, KD5NRO Norman, OK '90 300D 243K, '87 300SDL 290K, '81 240D 173K, '78 450SLC 67K, '97 Ply Grand Voyager 78K
Re: [MBZ] OT: Buying a car in WA
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: good morning...just spoke with the state patrol office and was told: 1.if the car has a current tag, nothing more needed unless purchased as a wreck 2. insurance is technically required, but it depends on the trooper who stops you if this is inforced on the drive home (bill of sale and proximity to the story being told very important) Thanks. That makes a lot of sense. Getting insurance isn't really a big problem; I have eSurance so I can just add the car and print out a binder if I'm pretty sure I'm going to pick it up. It was mainly the tags I was concerned about.
