Re: [MBZ] OT: New toy update

[Curt Raymond via Mercedes]

Thanks Scott, I knew about surplus center but hadn't seen the other before.
-Curt


  From: Scott Ritchey 
 To: 'Curt Raymond' ; 'Mercedes Discussion List' 
 
 Sent: Monday, March 6, 2017 5:01 PM
 Subject: RE: [MBZ] OT: New toy update
   
A couple good online sources for hydraulic stuff are:
http://www.discounthydraulichose.com/
http://www.surpluscenter.com/Hydraulics/
They also have good reference information on threads and connections.

> -Original Message-
> From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of
> Curt Raymond via Mercedes
> Sent: Monday, March 06, 2017 9:24 AM
> To: Mercedes Discussion List 
> Cc: Curt Raymond 
> Subject: [MBZ] OT: New toy update
> 
> Took a couple hours on the new tractor yesterday. As a reminder the PO
> suggested that the PTO clutch was blowing the fuse, he said he measured it at
> 0 ohms.The hood was adjusted too far forward anyway so I pulled it off finding
> only 2 of the 4 bolts that should be there. The PTO clutch showed
> 3.5 ohms which is exactly in the middle of the 3-4 ohm range. I took a 12v 
> drill
> battery and applied power and could hear the clutch engage. The little jumper
> wires I had didn't get hot or show any sign of a short. There was a little 
> pigtail
> on the wire coming from the switch, I disconnected that and hooked the wire
> to the clutch, flip the switch and the clutch engaged as it should.Fire up the
> tractor and the clutch engaged but no hydraulics. Turns out theres ANOTHER
> clutch on the poorly mounted hydraulic pump. It looks like what happened
> was the pigtail used to go to that clutch also, got torn off and grounded to 
> the
> frame which caused the fuse to
> pop.http://i843.photobucket.com/albums/zz353/curtludwig/IMG_20170305_
> 123418901_zps1vtqcsvq.jpg
> 
> I ended up reworking the pigtail, it was assembled upside down. I'm not happy
> with the routing but I just wanted to see if I could get the hydraulics to
> function.http://i843.photobucket.com/albums/zz353/curtludwig/IMG_201703
> 05_145905672_zpsc9pg9bbs.jpg
> 
> Success! Lift goes up and down, bucket rolls. Everything I suspected about the
> hydraulic cylinders being too long is true, the lift arms are so long the 
> bucket
> won't rest flat on the ground. 2" shorter cylinders would fix the problem.
> I took a ride to Tractor Supply to buy some bolts since my local hardware 
> store
> was closed. While there I looked at the hydraulic assortment and realized that
> everything on the tractor is from Tractor Supply. So the builder just bought
> stuff that was "close". So I'll be measuring and buying stuff thats right 
> instead.
> Fortunately the rams all work so I should be able to sell them off to mitigate
> the cost.
> Used the loader to haul firewood, I'm not sure its any faster than just using 
> my
> garden cart but I wanted it to warm up and see if there were any engine
> troubles, there aren't other than the choke occasionally sets itself, the 
> tower
> where the steering wheel is needs to come apart anyway, the bolster for the
> steering shaft is boogered, shouldn't be hard to fix.
> Anyway the positive news for the day is I took a $1200 not-working loader and
> turned it into an $1800 mostly-working loader. Not bad for $1.00 worth of
> connectors.
> Pics for Rich:
> http://i843.photobucket.com/albums/zz353/curtludwig/IMG_20170304_1732
> 56490_zpsosknsvew.jpghttp://i843.photobucket.com/albums/zz353/curtludw
> ig/IMG_20170304_173251445_zpsdrn8uw3l.jpg
> http://i843.photobucket.com/albums/zz353/curtludwig/IMG_20170304_1732
> 43355_zpsh8txmooi.jpg
> 
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Re: [MBZ] OT: New toy update

[Curley McLain via Mercedes]

+1 for Surplus Center.  When I was building hydraulic power packs, I 
bought the pumps and controls from them.  It used to be called Burden's 
back in the day.  At one time they had bungler alarm stuff too.  It 
seems they have dropped that line.   IN later years, to replace the 2 
stage hyd. pumps, I bought them from Northern Hydraulic (now Northern 
Tool) because it was more convenient.



Scott Ritchey via Mercedes 
March 6, 2017 at 4:01 PM
A couple good online sources for hydraulic stuff are:
http://www.discounthydraulichose.com/
http://www.surpluscenter.com/Hydraulics/
They also have good reference information on threads and connections.




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Re: [MBZ] OT: New toy update

[Scott Ritchey via Mercedes]

A couple good online sources for hydraulic stuff are:
http://www.discounthydraulichose.com/
http://www.surpluscenter.com/Hydraulics/
They also have good reference information on threads and connections.

> -Original Message-
> From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of
> Curt Raymond via Mercedes
> Sent: Monday, March 06, 2017 9:24 AM
> To: Mercedes Discussion List 
> Cc: Curt Raymond 
> Subject: [MBZ] OT: New toy update
> 
> Took a couple hours on the new tractor yesterday. As a reminder the PO
> suggested that the PTO clutch was blowing the fuse, he said he measured it at
> 0 ohms.The hood was adjusted too far forward anyway so I pulled it off finding
> only 2 of the 4 bolts that should be there. The PTO clutch showed
> 3.5 ohms which is exactly in the middle of the 3-4 ohm range. I took a 12v 
> drill
> battery and applied power and could hear the clutch engage. The little jumper
> wires I had didn't get hot or show any sign of a short. There was a little 
> pigtail
> on the wire coming from the switch, I disconnected that and hooked the wire
> to the clutch, flip the switch and the clutch engaged as it should.Fire up the
> tractor and the clutch engaged but no hydraulics. Turns out theres ANOTHER
> clutch on the poorly mounted hydraulic pump. It looks like what happened
> was the pigtail used to go to that clutch also, got torn off and grounded to 
> the
> frame which caused the fuse to
> pop.http://i843.photobucket.com/albums/zz353/curtludwig/IMG_20170305_
> 123418901_zps1vtqcsvq.jpg
> 
> I ended up reworking the pigtail, it was assembled upside down. I'm not happy
> with the routing but I just wanted to see if I could get the hydraulics to
> function.http://i843.photobucket.com/albums/zz353/curtludwig/IMG_201703
> 05_145905672_zpsc9pg9bbs.jpg
> 
> Success! Lift goes up and down, bucket rolls. Everything I suspected about the
> hydraulic cylinders being too long is true, the lift arms are so long the 
> bucket
> won't rest flat on the ground. 2" shorter cylinders would fix the problem.
> I took a ride to Tractor Supply to buy some bolts since my local hardware 
> store
> was closed. While there I looked at the hydraulic assortment and realized that
> everything on the tractor is from Tractor Supply. So the builder just bought
> stuff that was "close". So I'll be measuring and buying stuff thats right 
> instead.
> Fortunately the rams all work so I should be able to sell them off to mitigate
> the cost.
> Used the loader to haul firewood, I'm not sure its any faster than just using 
> my
> garden cart but I wanted it to warm up and see if there were any engine
> troubles, there aren't other than the choke occasionally sets itself, the 
> tower
> where the steering wheel is needs to come apart anyway, the bolster for the
> steering shaft is boogered, shouldn't be hard to fix.
> Anyway the positive news for the day is I took a $1200 not-working loader and
> turned it into an $1800 mostly-working loader. Not bad for $1.00 worth of
> connectors.
> Pics for Rich:
> http://i843.photobucket.com/albums/zz353/curtludwig/IMG_20170304_1732
> 56490_zpsosknsvew.jpghttp://i843.photobucket.com/albums/zz353/curtludw
> ig/IMG_20170304_173251445_zpsdrn8uw3l.jpg
> http://i843.photobucket.com/albums/zz353/curtludwig/IMG_20170304_1732
> 43355_zpsh8txmooi.jpg
> 
> -Curt
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Re: [MBZ] OT: New toy update

[Curley McLain via Mercedes]

Nice!


Curt Raymond via Mercedes 
March 6, 2017 at 8:24 AM
Took a couple hours on the new tractor yesterday. As a reminder the PO 
suggested that the PTO clutch was blowing the fuse, he said he 
measured it at 0 ohms.The hood was adjusted too far forward anyway so 
I pulled it off finding only 2 of the 4 bolts that should be there. 
The PTO clutch showed 3.5 ohms which is exactly in the middle of the 
3-4 ohm range. I took a 12v drill battery and applied power and could 
hear the clutch engage. The little jumper wires I had didn't get hot 
or show any sign of a short. There was a little pigtail on the wire 
coming from the switch, I disconnected that and hooked the wire to the 
clutch, flip the switch and the clutch engaged as it should.Fire up 
the tractor and the clutch engaged but no hydraulics. Turns out theres 
ANOTHER clutch on the poorly mounted hydraulic pump. It looks like 
what happened was the pigtail used to go to that clutch also, got torn 
off and grounded to the frame which caused the fuse to 
pop.http://i843.photobucket.com/albums/zz353/curtludwig/IMG_20170305_123418901_zps1vtqcsvq.jpg


I ended up reworking the pigtail, it was assembled upside down. I'm 
not happy with the routing but I just wanted to see if I could get the 
hydraulics to 
function.http://i843.photobucket.com/albums/zz353/curtludwig/IMG_20170305_145905672_zpsc9pg9bbs.jpg


Success! Lift goes up and down, bucket rolls. Everything I suspected 
about the hydraulic cylinders being too long is true, the lift arms 
are so long the bucket won't rest flat on the ground. 2" shorter 
cylinders would fix the problem.
I took a ride to Tractor Supply to buy some bolts since my local 
hardware store was closed. While there I looked at the hydraulic 
assortment and realized that everything on the tractor is from Tractor 
Supply. So the builder just bought stuff that was "close". So I'll be 
measuring and buying stuff thats right instead. Fortunately the rams 
all work so I should be able to sell them off to mitigate the cost.
Used the loader to haul firewood, I'm not sure its any faster than 
just using my garden cart but I wanted it to warm up and see if there 
were any engine troubles, there aren't other than the choke 
occasionally sets itself, the tower where the steering wheel is needs 
to come apart anyway, the bolster for the steering shaft is boogered, 
shouldn't be hard to fix.
Anyway the positive news for the day is I took a $1200 not-working 
loader and turned it into an $1800 mostly-working loader. Not bad for 
$1.00 worth of connectors.
Pics for 
Rich: http://i843.photobucket.com/albums/zz353/curtludwig/IMG_20170304_173256490_zpsosknsvew.jpghttp://i843.photobucket.com/albums/zz353/curtludwig/IMG_20170304_173251445_zpsdrn8uw3l.jpg

http://i843.photobucket.com/albums/zz353/curtludwig/IMG_20170304_173243355_zpsh8txmooi.jpg

-Curt


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Re: [MBZ] OT: New toy

[Randy Bennell via Mercedes]

Ok, I found the photos. Went to SPAM

RB

On 06/03/2017 8:07 AM, tyee165 via Mercedes wrote:

We need photos!


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 Original message From: Curt Raymond via Mercedes  
Date: 2017-03-04  5:53 PM  (GMT-06:00) To: Mercedes Discussion List  
Cc: Curt Raymond  Subject: [MBZ] OT: New toy
I've been looking at garden tractor loaders off and on for a couple years now. I even 
bought plans to build my own which of course was relegated to the "round tuit" 
pile.
Today I picked up a 1977 Cub Cadet 1650 (16hp, hydrostatic drive) with a loader 
on it. I originally thought it was a Johnson loader but I'm not so sure now. 
Its been modified in the past so who knows.
I paid $1200 which is about half what I would normally expect to pay for such a 
thing. The electric PTO clutch doesn't work so I can't engage the hydraulics to 
run the loader but it starts easily even in the teens and is able to slide the 
loader bucket along pretty well.I've been researching the PTO clutch and as 
with most things I won't really know whats up until I dig into it, the clutch 
itself is pretty simple and only about $150 if I find it needs replacement. The 
previous owner said it worked and then started blowing fuses, the wiring is a 
little hacked but not too bad so I'll pull it apart and see whats going on.
The hydraulics look like they were rigged by a blind man, I plan to replace 
some of the hoses with hard lines since they're too short to route better than 
they already are. I'd like to replace the single cylinder currently hooked up 
for the bucket with two cylinders on the lift arms. Getting that stupid looking 
big cylinder out of the way would allow the hood to open correctly.
Anyway its a fun new toy and as I told the neighbor it'll keep my out of the 
bars.
-Curt

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[MBZ] OT: New toy update

[Curt Raymond via Mercedes]

Took a couple hours on the new tractor yesterday. As a reminder the PO 
suggested that the PTO clutch was blowing the fuse, he said he measured it at 0 
ohms.The hood was adjusted too far forward anyway so I pulled it off finding 
only 2 of the 4 bolts that should be there. The PTO clutch showed 3.5 ohms 
which is exactly in the middle of the 3-4 ohm range. I took a 12v drill battery 
and applied power and could hear the clutch engage. The little jumper wires I 
had didn't get hot or show any sign of a short. There was a little pigtail on 
the wire coming from the switch, I disconnected that and hooked the wire to the 
clutch, flip the switch and the clutch engaged as it should.Fire up the tractor 
and the clutch engaged but no hydraulics. Turns out theres ANOTHER clutch on 
the poorly mounted hydraulic pump. It looks like what happened was the pigtail 
used to go to that clutch also, got torn off and grounded to the frame which 
caused the fuse to 
pop.http://i843.photobucket.com/albums/zz353/curtludwig/IMG_20170305_123418901_zps1vtqcsvq.jpg

I ended up reworking the pigtail, it was assembled upside down. I'm not happy 
with the routing but I just wanted to see if I could get the hydraulics to 
function.http://i843.photobucket.com/albums/zz353/curtludwig/IMG_20170305_145905672_zpsc9pg9bbs.jpg

Success! Lift goes up and down, bucket rolls. Everything I suspected about the 
hydraulic cylinders being too long is true, the lift arms are so long the 
bucket won't rest flat on the ground. 2" shorter cylinders would fix the 
problem.
I took a ride to Tractor Supply to buy some bolts since my local hardware store 
was closed. While there I looked at the hydraulic assortment and realized that 
everything on the tractor is from Tractor Supply. So the builder just bought 
stuff that was "close". So I'll be measuring and buying stuff thats right 
instead. Fortunately the rams all work so I should be able to sell them off to 
mitigate the cost.
Used the loader to haul firewood, I'm not sure its any faster than just using 
my garden cart but I wanted it to warm up and see if there were any engine 
troubles, there aren't other than the choke occasionally sets itself, the tower 
where the steering wheel is needs to come apart anyway, the bolster for the 
steering shaft is boogered, shouldn't be hard to fix.
Anyway the positive news for the day is I took a $1200 not-working loader and 
turned it into an $1800 mostly-working loader. Not bad for $1.00 worth of 
connectors.
Pics for Rich: 
http://i843.photobucket.com/albums/zz353/curtludwig/IMG_20170304_173256490_zpsosknsvew.jpghttp://i843.photobucket.com/albums/zz353/curtludwig/IMG_20170304_173251445_zpsdrn8uw3l.jpg
http://i843.photobucket.com/albums/zz353/curtludwig/IMG_20170304_173243355_zpsh8txmooi.jpg

-Curt
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Re: [MBZ] OT: New toy

[tyee165 via Mercedes]

We need photos!


Sent from my Galaxy Tab® A
 Original message From: Curt Raymond via Mercedes 
 Date: 2017-03-04  5:53 PM  (GMT-06:00) To: Mercedes 
Discussion List  Cc: Curt Raymond  
Subject: [MBZ] OT: New toy 
I've been looking at garden tractor loaders off and on for a couple years now. 
I even bought plans to build my own which of course was relegated to the "round 
tuit" pile.
Today I picked up a 1977 Cub Cadet 1650 (16hp, hydrostatic drive) with a loader 
on it. I originally thought it was a Johnson loader but I'm not so sure now. 
Its been modified in the past so who knows.
I paid $1200 which is about half what I would normally expect to pay for such a 
thing. The electric PTO clutch doesn't work so I can't engage the hydraulics to 
run the loader but it starts easily even in the teens and is able to slide the 
loader bucket along pretty well.I've been researching the PTO clutch and as 
with most things I won't really know whats up until I dig into it, the clutch 
itself is pretty simple and only about $150 if I find it needs replacement. The 
previous owner said it worked and then started blowing fuses, the wiring is a 
little hacked but not too bad so I'll pull it apart and see whats going on.
The hydraulics look like they were rigged by a blind man, I plan to replace 
some of the hoses with hard lines since they're too short to route better than 
they already are. I'd like to replace the single cylinder currently hooked up 
for the bucket with two cylinders on the lift arms. Getting that stupid looking 
big cylinder out of the way would allow the hood to open correctly.
Anyway its a fun new toy and as I told the neighbor it'll keep my out of the 
bars.
-Curt

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Re: [MBZ] OT: New toy

[Max Dillon via Mercedes]

Good one!

I was listening to a TED talk by a blind man a couple weeks ago, he gradually 
lost his sight in his childhood.  Fascinating story, quite inspiring.
-- 
Max Dillon
Charleston SC
'87 300TD
'95 E300

On March 4, 2017 9:21:30 PM EST, Kevin Kraly via Mercedes 
 wrote:
>The hydraulics look like they had been rigged by A DUMB  blind man. I
>hope that tractor works out well for you. 
>Kevin in Oregon would do a great job of rigging hydraulics for a blind
>man
>
>Sent from my cell   
>
>> On Mar 4, 2017, at 5:12 PM, Curley McLain via Mercedes
> wrote:
>> 
>> Nice.  A month or so ago I was drooling over a little kubota with cat
>1 3 point.   too much money and no real need.  it was just the basic
>tractor.  no mower, no loader.  $2400.  On the plus, it was a kubota
>and it is Diesel.
>> 
>>> Curt Raymond via Mercedes 
>>> March 4, 2017 at 5:53 PM
>>> I've been looking at garden tractor loaders off and on for a couple
>years now. I even bought plans to build my own which of course was
>relegated to the "round tuit" pile.
>>> Today I picked up a 1977 Cub Cadet 1650 (16hp, hydrostatic drive)
>with a loader on it. I originally thought it was a Johnson loader but
>I'm not so sure now. Its been modified in the past so who knows.
>>> I paid $1200 which is about half what I would normally expect to pay
>for such a thing. The electric PTO clutch doesn't work so I can't
>engage the hydraulics to run the loader but it starts easily even in
>the teens and is able to slide the loader bucket along pretty well.I've
>been researching the PTO clutch and as with most things I won't really
>know whats up until I dig into it, the clutch itself is pretty simple
>and only about $150 if I find it needs replacement. The previous owner
>said it worked and then started blowing fuses, the wiring is a little
>hacked but not too bad so I'll pull it apart and see whats going on.
>>> The hydraulics look like they were rigged by a blind man, I plan to
>replace some of the hoses with hard lines since they're too short to
>route better than they already are. I'd like to replace the single
>cylinder currently hooked up for the bucket with two cylinders on the
>lift arms. Getting that stupid looking big cylinder out of the way
>would allow the hood to open correctly.
>>> Anyway its a fun new toy and as I told the neighbor it'll keep my
>out of the bars.
>>> -Curt
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Re: [MBZ] OT: New toy

[Kevin Kraly via Mercedes]

The hydraulics look like they had been rigged by A DUMB  blind man. I hope that 
tractor works out well for you. 
Kevin in Oregon would do a great job of rigging hydraulics for a blind man

Sent from my cell   

> On Mar 4, 2017, at 5:12 PM, Curley McLain via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Nice.  A month or so ago I was drooling over a little kubota with cat 1 3 
> point.   too much money and no real need.  it was just the basic tractor.  no 
> mower, no loader.  $2400.  On the plus, it was a kubota and it is Diesel.
> 
>> Curt Raymond via Mercedes 
>> March 4, 2017 at 5:53 PM
>> I've been looking at garden tractor loaders off and on for a couple years 
>> now. I even bought plans to build my own which of course was relegated to 
>> the "round tuit" pile.
>> Today I picked up a 1977 Cub Cadet 1650 (16hp, hydrostatic drive) with a 
>> loader on it. I originally thought it was a Johnson loader but I'm not so 
>> sure now. Its been modified in the past so who knows.
>> I paid $1200 which is about half what I would normally expect to pay for 
>> such a thing. The electric PTO clutch doesn't work so I can't engage the 
>> hydraulics to run the loader but it starts easily even in the teens and is 
>> able to slide the loader bucket along pretty well.I've been researching the 
>> PTO clutch and as with most things I won't really know whats up until I dig 
>> into it, the clutch itself is pretty simple and only about $150 if I find it 
>> needs replacement. The previous owner said it worked and then started 
>> blowing fuses, the wiring is a little hacked but not too bad so I'll pull it 
>> apart and see whats going on.
>> The hydraulics look like they were rigged by a blind man, I plan to replace 
>> some of the hoses with hard lines since they're too short to route better 
>> than they already are. I'd like to replace the single cylinder currently 
>> hooked up for the bucket with two cylinders on the lift arms. Getting that 
>> stupid looking big cylinder out of the way would allow the hood to open 
>> correctly.
>> Anyway its a fun new toy and as I told the neighbor it'll keep my out of the 
>> bars.
>> -Curt
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Re: [MBZ] OT: New toy

[Curt Raymond via Mercedes]

I *think* its a copy of a Johnson loader, homemade or possibly a small shop. 
Well enough done anyway.
The wheels have Craftsman weights on them. I intend to fluid fill the tires, 
maybe relocate the hydraulic fluid reservoir and put a bht (big heavy thing) 
back there.
-Curt

  From: Dan Penoff via Mercedes 
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Cc: Dan Penoff 
 Sent: Saturday, March 4, 2017 7:40 PM
 Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: New toy
   
That front end loader almost looks homemade.  Do you have some weights for the 
back or wheel weights?  I could see it being pretty easy to flip that thing if 
you overloaded it.

Nice.  I loves a nice old tractor.  Makes me think about the old Wheel Horse….

-D


> On Mar 4, 2017, at 6:55 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> Forgot the pictures:
> http://i843.photobucket.com/albums/zz353/curtludwig/IMG_20170304_173256490_zpsosknsvew.jpg
> http://i843.photobucket.com/albums/zz353/curtludwig/IMG_20170304_173251445_zpsdrn8uw3l.jpg
> http://i843.photobucket.com/albums/zz353/curtludwig/IMG_20170304_173243355_zpsh8txmooi.jpg
> 
> For scale it hung out of the back of the pickup about a foot so its probably 
> 8 or 9 feet long from the tip of the bucket to the end of the hydraulic 
> reservoir.
> -Curt
> 
>      From: Curt Raymond 
> To: Mercedes Discussion List  
> Sent: Saturday, March 4, 2017 6:53 PM
> Subject: OT: New toy
> 
> I've been looking at garden tractor loaders off and on for a couple years 
> now. I even bought plans to build my own which of course was relegated to the 
> "round tuit" pile.
> Today I picked up a 1977 Cub Cadet 1650 (16hp, hydrostatic drive) with a 
> loader on it. I originally thought it was a Johnson loader but I'm not so 
> sure now. Its been modified in the past so who knows.
> I paid $1200 which is about half what I would normally expect to pay for such 
> a thing. The electric PTO clutch doesn't work so I can't engage the 
> hydraulics to run the loader but it starts easily even in the teens and is 
> able to slide the loader bucket along pretty well.I've been researching the 
> PTO clutch and as with most things I won't really know whats up until I dig 
> into it, the clutch itself is pretty simple and only about $150 if I find it 
> needs replacement. The previous owner said it worked and then started blowing 
> fuses, the wiring is a little hacked but not too bad so I'll pull it apart 
> and see whats going on.
> The hydraulics look like they were rigged by a blind man, I plan to replace 
> some of the hoses with hard lines since they're too short to route better 
> than they already are. I'd like to replace the single cylinder currently 
> hooked up for the bucket with two cylinders on the lift arms. Getting that 
> stupid looking big cylinder out of the way would allow the hood to open 
> correctly.
> Anyway its a fun new toy and as I told the neighbor it'll keep my out of the 
> bars.
> -Curt
> 
> 
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Re: [MBZ] OT: New toy

[Curley McLain via Mercedes]

Nice.  A month or so ago I was drooling over a little kubota with cat 1 
3 point.   too much money and no real need.  it was just the basic 
tractor.  no mower, no loader.  $2400.  On the plus, it was a kubota and 
it is Diesel.



Curt Raymond via Mercedes 
March 4, 2017 at 5:53 PM
I've been looking at garden tractor loaders off and on for a couple 
years now. I even bought plans to build my own which of course was 
relegated to the "round tuit" pile.
Today I picked up a 1977 Cub Cadet 1650 (16hp, hydrostatic drive) with 
a loader on it. I originally thought it was a Johnson loader but I'm 
not so sure now. Its been modified in the past so who knows.
I paid $1200 which is about half what I would normally expect to pay 
for such a thing. The electric PTO clutch doesn't work so I can't 
engage the hydraulics to run the loader but it starts easily even in 
the teens and is able to slide the loader bucket along pretty 
well.I've been researching the PTO clutch and as with most things I 
won't really know whats up until I dig into it, the clutch itself is 
pretty simple and only about $150 if I find it needs replacement. The 
previous owner said it worked and then started blowing fuses, the 
wiring is a little hacked but not too bad so I'll pull it apart and 
see whats going on.
The hydraulics look like they were rigged by a blind man, I plan to 
replace some of the hoses with hard lines since they're too short to 
route better than they already are. I'd like to replace the single 
cylinder currently hooked up for the bucket with two cylinders on the 
lift arms. Getting that stupid looking big cylinder out of the way 
would allow the hood to open correctly.
Anyway its a fun new toy and as I told the neighbor it'll keep my out 
of the bars.

-Curt


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Re: [MBZ] OT: New toy

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

That front end loader almost looks homemade.  Do you have some weights for the 
back or wheel weights?  I could see it being pretty easy to flip that thing if 
you overloaded it.

Nice.  I loves a nice old tractor.  Makes me think about the old Wheel Horse….

-D


> On Mar 4, 2017, at 6:55 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> Forgot the pictures:
> http://i843.photobucket.com/albums/zz353/curtludwig/IMG_20170304_173256490_zpsosknsvew.jpg
> http://i843.photobucket.com/albums/zz353/curtludwig/IMG_20170304_173251445_zpsdrn8uw3l.jpg
> http://i843.photobucket.com/albums/zz353/curtludwig/IMG_20170304_173243355_zpsh8txmooi.jpg
> 
> For scale it hung out of the back of the pickup about a foot so its probably 
> 8 or 9 feet long from the tip of the bucket to the end of the hydraulic 
> reservoir.
> -Curt
> 
>  From: Curt Raymond 
> To: Mercedes Discussion List  
> Sent: Saturday, March 4, 2017 6:53 PM
> Subject: OT: New toy
> 
> I've been looking at garden tractor loaders off and on for a couple years 
> now. I even bought plans to build my own which of course was relegated to the 
> "round tuit" pile.
> Today I picked up a 1977 Cub Cadet 1650 (16hp, hydrostatic drive) with a 
> loader on it. I originally thought it was a Johnson loader but I'm not so 
> sure now. Its been modified in the past so who knows.
> I paid $1200 which is about half what I would normally expect to pay for such 
> a thing. The electric PTO clutch doesn't work so I can't engage the 
> hydraulics to run the loader but it starts easily even in the teens and is 
> able to slide the loader bucket along pretty well.I've been researching the 
> PTO clutch and as with most things I won't really know whats up until I dig 
> into it, the clutch itself is pretty simple and only about $150 if I find it 
> needs replacement. The previous owner said it worked and then started blowing 
> fuses, the wiring is a little hacked but not too bad so I'll pull it apart 
> and see whats going on.
> The hydraulics look like they were rigged by a blind man, I plan to replace 
> some of the hoses with hard lines since they're too short to route better 
> than they already are. I'd like to replace the single cylinder currently 
> hooked up for the bucket with two cylinders on the lift arms. Getting that 
> stupid looking big cylinder out of the way would allow the hood to open 
> correctly.
> Anyway its a fun new toy and as I told the neighbor it'll keep my out of the 
> bars.
> -Curt
> 
> 
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Re: [MBZ] OT: New toy

[Curt Raymond via Mercedes]

Forgot the pictures:
http://i843.photobucket.com/albums/zz353/curtludwig/IMG_20170304_173256490_zpsosknsvew.jpg
http://i843.photobucket.com/albums/zz353/curtludwig/IMG_20170304_173251445_zpsdrn8uw3l.jpg
http://i843.photobucket.com/albums/zz353/curtludwig/IMG_20170304_173243355_zpsh8txmooi.jpg

For scale it hung out of the back of the pickup about a foot so its probably 8 
or 9 feet long from the tip of the bucket to the end of the hydraulic reservoir.
-Curt

  From: Curt Raymond 
 To: Mercedes Discussion List  
 Sent: Saturday, March 4, 2017 6:53 PM
 Subject: OT: New toy
   
I've been looking at garden tractor loaders off and on for a couple years now. 
I even bought plans to build my own which of course was relegated to the "round 
tuit" pile.
Today I picked up a 1977 Cub Cadet 1650 (16hp, hydrostatic drive) with a loader 
on it. I originally thought it was a Johnson loader but I'm not so sure now. 
Its been modified in the past so who knows.
I paid $1200 which is about half what I would normally expect to pay for such a 
thing. The electric PTO clutch doesn't work so I can't engage the hydraulics to 
run the loader but it starts easily even in the teens and is able to slide the 
loader bucket along pretty well.I've been researching the PTO clutch and as 
with most things I won't really know whats up until I dig into it, the clutch 
itself is pretty simple and only about $150 if I find it needs replacement. The 
previous owner said it worked and then started blowing fuses, the wiring is a 
little hacked but not too bad so I'll pull it apart and see whats going on.
The hydraulics look like they were rigged by a blind man, I plan to replace 
some of the hoses with hard lines since they're too short to route better than 
they already are. I'd like to replace the single cylinder currently hooked up 
for the bucket with two cylinders on the lift arms. Getting that stupid looking 
big cylinder out of the way would allow the hood to open correctly.
Anyway its a fun new toy and as I told the neighbor it'll keep my out of the 
bars.
-Curt



   
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[MBZ] OT: New toy

[Curt Raymond via Mercedes]

I've been looking at garden tractor loaders off and on for a couple years now. 
I even bought plans to build my own which of course was relegated to the "round 
tuit" pile.
Today I picked up a 1977 Cub Cadet 1650 (16hp, hydrostatic drive) with a loader 
on it. I originally thought it was a Johnson loader but I'm not so sure now. 
Its been modified in the past so who knows.
I paid $1200 which is about half what I would normally expect to pay for such a 
thing. The electric PTO clutch doesn't work so I can't engage the hydraulics to 
run the loader but it starts easily even in the teens and is able to slide the 
loader bucket along pretty well.I've been researching the PTO clutch and as 
with most things I won't really know whats up until I dig into it, the clutch 
itself is pretty simple and only about $150 if I find it needs replacement. The 
previous owner said it worked and then started blowing fuses, the wiring is a 
little hacked but not too bad so I'll pull it apart and see whats going on.
The hydraulics look like they were rigged by a blind man, I plan to replace 
some of the hoses with hard lines since they're too short to route better than 
they already are. I'd like to replace the single cylinder currently hooked up 
for the bucket with two cylinders on the lift arms. Getting that stupid looking 
big cylinder out of the way would allow the hood to open correctly.
Anyway its a fun new toy and as I told the neighbor it'll keep my out of the 
bars.
-Curt

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