Re: [MBZ] OT: Pilot asleep at controls of 747
Doubt it. Not for a business class passenger. Business and first class passengers are the ones that pay the bills. Kick me off the flight? You just dropped $2k in airfare. -D > On Feb 26, 2019, at 10:55 AM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes > wrote: > > That wouldn’t happen now days. They would pull back to the gate and throw you > off. > > Sent from my iPhone > >> On Feb 26, 2019, at 5:09 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes >> wrote: >> >> I was flying business class to Amsterdam on KLM, a regular gig when we went >> to the Middle East or Africa, as KLM and El Al were the only airlines we >> were allowed to fly for security reasons. Anyway, I’m on the upper deck of a >> 747-400 and my seat back breaks before we take off. We’ve already pushed >> back and are taxiing, so I alert the cabin crew to my predicament and >> they’re all worked up, trying to figure out where they’re going to seat me >> in an aircraft that is full. I told them I wasn’t going to coach (I was >> hoping for a first class bump!) They got on the intercom and conferred for a >> minute, then a crew member came and got me and took me into the crew’s >> bunkroom. Since it was a flight to Europe there was only one crew on board, >> meaning the crew’s bunkroom wasn’t being used. >> >> So I got to fly to Amsterdam in a really nice private, albeit cramped, room. >> Nice bed and small reclining chair to sit in. >> >> -D >> >> >>> On Feb 25, 2019, at 11:22 PM, G Mann via Mercedes >>> wrote: >>> >>> Aircrew is strictly limited to FAA ruled "duty time" for each day. FAA >>> mandates how much "duty time" can be done which is not just "flight time at >>> the controls". Every airline worldwide has to meet FAA regulations with few >>> exceptions in order to operate in airline flight corridors and controlled >>> flight altitudes. >>> >>> Common practice for long haul international or over ocean flights is to fly >>> with two full crews. Unknown to most passengers, large airliners have crew >>> rest areas which are not public access, with bunks and kitchen. >>> >>> As far as sleeping at the controls and falling against the "stick". >>> rules state if you occupy a command seat, you have to have shoulder harness >>> and seat belt on. Shoulder harness has auto retract and tension, so if you >>> fall forward, it will kick in and "arrest" you. >>> >>> I contend the most dangerous part of airline travel is the drive to the >>> airport. Your personal view may vary. >>> >>> On Mon, Feb 25, 2019 at 8:36 PM Karl Wittnebel via Mercedes < >>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: >>> The crews are each three people on the 380. So there are six officers aboard the long haul flights. On Qantas anyway. There is considerable variation in crew training and staffing levels between airlines. I am sure other airlines fly similar routes with less manpower. Sleeping at the stick is never going to be a good look. Reminds me of the Payne Stewart crash: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/1999_South_Dakota_Learjet_crash On Mon, Feb 25, 2019, 12:58 PM Larry Turner via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > What I think he said was: a full crew (#1) handled the plane during > landing/take-off while the other rested, then Crew #2 that was resting > handled the duties during the middle part of the flight. I think a > crew consists of 3 to 5 or more members depending on the plane. > >> On 2/25/2019 3:30 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote: >> So are you saying that in essence, the sleeping pilot is nothing to worry >> about? >> >> On Mon, Feb 25, 2019 at 11:49 AM Karl Wittnebel via Mercedes < >> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: >> >>> Sydney to LA on the a380 qantas run two complete flight crews. One > handles >>> takeoff and landing. The other handles the middle bit. Crew 1 sleeps in > the >>> middle. >>> >>> For takeoff and landing there is always an extra officer on the flight > deck >>> whose job is only to watch the other three and pick up any errors or >>> irregularities. A friend is a pilot with them. >>> >>> On Sun, Feb 24, 2019, 2:08 PM archer75--- via Mercedes < >>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: >>> On Sun, 24 Feb 2019 15:28:45 -0500 "arche...@embarqmail.com" wrote: > Pilot asleep at controls of 747. > > https://www.instagram.com/p/BuHB1AyHpUM/ > Gerry wrote: I don't see how airline pilots stay awake on long flights with the autopilots flying the plane. Do they take turns napping? Read books? > Play games? Seems like a boring job most of the time. --- This email has been checked for viruses by AVG. https://www.avg.com ___
Re: [MBZ] OT: Pilot asleep at controls of 747
That wouldn’t happen now days. They would pull back to the gate and throw you off. Sent from my iPhone > On Feb 26, 2019, at 5:09 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes > wrote: > > I was flying business class to Amsterdam on KLM, a regular gig when we went > to the Middle East or Africa, as KLM and El Al were the only airlines we were > allowed to fly for security reasons. Anyway, I’m on the upper deck of a > 747-400 and my seat back breaks before we take off. We’ve already pushed back > and are taxiing, so I alert the cabin crew to my predicament and they’re all > worked up, trying to figure out where they’re going to seat me in an aircraft > that is full. I told them I wasn’t going to coach (I was hoping for a first > class bump!) They got on the intercom and conferred for a minute, then a crew > member came and got me and took me into the crew’s bunkroom. Since it was a > flight to Europe there was only one crew on board, meaning the crew’s > bunkroom wasn’t being used. > > So I got to fly to Amsterdam in a really nice private, albeit cramped, room. > Nice bed and small reclining chair to sit in. > > -D > > >> On Feb 25, 2019, at 11:22 PM, G Mann via Mercedes >> wrote: >> >> Aircrew is strictly limited to FAA ruled "duty time" for each day. FAA >> mandates how much "duty time" can be done which is not just "flight time at >> the controls". Every airline worldwide has to meet FAA regulations with few >> exceptions in order to operate in airline flight corridors and controlled >> flight altitudes. >> >> Common practice for long haul international or over ocean flights is to fly >> with two full crews. Unknown to most passengers, large airliners have crew >> rest areas which are not public access, with bunks and kitchen. >> >> As far as sleeping at the controls and falling against the "stick". >> rules state if you occupy a command seat, you have to have shoulder harness >> and seat belt on. Shoulder harness has auto retract and tension, so if you >> fall forward, it will kick in and "arrest" you. >> >> I contend the most dangerous part of airline travel is the drive to the >> airport. Your personal view may vary. >> >> On Mon, Feb 25, 2019 at 8:36 PM Karl Wittnebel via Mercedes < >> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: >> >>> The crews are each three people on the 380. So there are six officers >>> aboard the long haul flights. On Qantas anyway. >>> >>> There is considerable variation in crew training and staffing levels >>> between airlines. I am sure other airlines fly similar routes with less >>> manpower. >>> >>> Sleeping at the stick is never going to be a good look. Reminds me of the >>> Payne Stewart crash: >>> https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/1999_South_Dakota_Learjet_crash >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> On Mon, Feb 25, 2019, 12:58 PM Larry Turner via Mercedes < >>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: >>> What I think he said was: a full crew (#1) handled the plane during landing/take-off while the other rested, then Crew #2 that was resting handled the duties during the middle part of the flight. I think a crew consists of 3 to 5 or more members depending on the plane. > On 2/25/2019 3:30 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote: > So are you saying that in essence, the sleeping pilot is nothing to >>> worry > about? > > On Mon, Feb 25, 2019 at 11:49 AM Karl Wittnebel via Mercedes < > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > >> Sydney to LA on the a380 qantas run two complete flight crews. One handles >> takeoff and landing. The other handles the middle bit. Crew 1 sleeps >>> in the >> middle. >> >> For takeoff and landing there is always an extra officer on the flight deck >> whose job is only to watch the other three and pick up any errors or >> irregularities. A friend is a pilot with them. >> >> On Sun, Feb 24, 2019, 2:08 PM archer75--- via Mercedes < >> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: >> >>> On Sun, 24 Feb 2019 15:28:45 -0500 >>> "arche...@embarqmail.com" wrote: >>> Pilot asleep at controls of 747. https://www.instagram.com/p/BuHB1AyHpUM/ >>> Gerry wrote: >>> I don't see how airline pilots stay awake on long flights with the >>> autopilots flying the plane. Do they take turns napping? Read books? Play >>> games? Seems like a boring job most of the time. >>> >>> --- >>> This email has been checked for viruses by AVG. >>> https://www.avg.com >>> >>> >>> ___ >>> http://www.okiebenz.com >>> >>> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >>> >>> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >>> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >>> >>> >> ___ >> http://www.okiebenz.com >> >> To search list archives
Re: [MBZ] OT: Pilot asleep at controls of 747
Yup. I know that all too well. I actually enjoyed the bunkroom as it had all the amenities of home despite being a little cramped, and when the cabin crew ducked in to get a break they usually brought me food and drinks, too. -D > On Feb 26, 2019, at 10:19 AM, Andrew Strasfogel wrote: > > Broken seats are not all that uncommon and they MUST reseat you no matter > how trivial the flaw may seem. > > On Tue, Feb 26, 2019 at 6:10 AM Dan Penoff via Mercedes > mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com>> wrote: > I was flying business class to Amsterdam on KLM, a regular gig when we went > to the Middle East or Africa, as KLM and El Al were the only airlines we were > allowed to fly for security reasons. Anyway, I’m on the upper deck of a > 747-400 and my seat back breaks before we take off. We’ve already pushed back > and are taxiing, so I alert the cabin crew to my predicament and they’re all > worked up, trying to figure out where they’re going to seat me in an aircraft > that is full. I told them I wasn’t going to coach (I was hoping for a first > class bump!) They got on the intercom and conferred for a minute, then a crew > member came and got me and took me into the crew’s bunkroom. Since it was a > flight to Europe there was only one crew on board, meaning the crew’s > bunkroom wasn’t being used. > > So I got to fly to Amsterdam in a really nice private, albeit cramped, room. > Nice bed and small reclining chair to sit in. > > -D ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Pilot asleep at controls of 747
Broken seats are not all that uncommon and they MUST reseat you no matter how trivial the flaw may seem. On Tue, Feb 26, 2019 at 6:10 AM Dan Penoff via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > I was flying business class to Amsterdam on KLM, a regular gig when we > went to the Middle East or Africa, as KLM and El Al were the only airlines > we were allowed to fly for security reasons. Anyway, I’m on the upper deck > of a 747-400 and my seat back breaks before we take off. We’ve already > pushed back and are taxiing, so I alert the cabin crew to my predicament > and they’re all worked up, trying to figure out where they’re going to seat > me in an aircraft that is full. I told them I wasn’t going to coach (I was > hoping for a first class bump!) They got on the intercom and conferred for > a minute, then a crew member came and got me and took me into the crew’s > bunkroom. Since it was a flight to Europe there was only one crew on board, > meaning the crew’s bunkroom wasn’t being used. > > So I got to fly to Amsterdam in a really nice private, albeit cramped, > room. Nice bed and small reclining chair to sit in. > > -D > > > > On Feb 25, 2019, at 11:22 PM, G Mann via Mercedes > wrote: > > > > Aircrew is strictly limited to FAA ruled "duty time" for each day. FAA > > mandates how much "duty time" can be done which is not just "flight time > at > > the controls". Every airline worldwide has to meet FAA regulations with > few > > exceptions in order to operate in airline flight corridors and controlled > > flight altitudes. > > > > Common practice for long haul international or over ocean flights is to > fly > > with two full crews. Unknown to most passengers, large airliners have > crew > > rest areas which are not public access, with bunks and kitchen. > > > > As far as sleeping at the controls and falling against the "stick". > > rules state if you occupy a command seat, you have to have shoulder > harness > > and seat belt on. Shoulder harness has auto retract and tension, so if > you > > fall forward, it will kick in and "arrest" you. > > > > I contend the most dangerous part of airline travel is the drive to the > > airport. Your personal view may vary. > > > > On Mon, Feb 25, 2019 at 8:36 PM Karl Wittnebel via Mercedes < > > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > > > >> The crews are each three people on the 380. So there are six officers > >> aboard the long haul flights. On Qantas anyway. > >> > >> There is considerable variation in crew training and staffing levels > >> between airlines. I am sure other airlines fly similar routes with less > >> manpower. > >> > >> Sleeping at the stick is never going to be a good look. Reminds me of > the > >> Payne Stewart crash: > >> https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/1999_South_Dakota_Learjet_crash > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> On Mon, Feb 25, 2019, 12:58 PM Larry Turner via Mercedes < > >> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > >> > >>> What I think he said was: a full crew (#1) handled the plane during > >>> landing/take-off while the other rested, then Crew #2 that was resting > >>> handled the duties during the middle part of the flight. I think a > >>> crew consists of 3 to 5 or more members depending on the plane. > >>> > >>> On 2/25/2019 3:30 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote: > So are you saying that in essence, the sleeping pilot is nothing to > >> worry > about? > > On Mon, Feb 25, 2019 at 11:49 AM Karl Wittnebel via Mercedes < > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > > > Sydney to LA on the a380 qantas run two complete flight crews. One > >>> handles > > takeoff and landing. The other handles the middle bit. Crew 1 sleeps > >> in > >>> the > > middle. > > > > For takeoff and landing there is always an extra officer on the > flight > >>> deck > > whose job is only to watch the other three and pick up any errors or > > irregularities. A friend is a pilot with them. > > > > On Sun, Feb 24, 2019, 2:08 PM archer75--- via Mercedes < > > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > > > >> On Sun, 24 Feb 2019 15:28:45 -0500 > >> "arche...@embarqmail.com" wrote: > >> > >>> Pilot asleep at controls of 747. > >>> > >>> https://www.instagram.com/p/BuHB1AyHpUM/ > >>> > >> Gerry wrote: > >> I don't see how airline pilots stay awake on long flights with the > >> autopilots flying the plane. Do they take turns napping? Read books? > >>> Play > >> games? Seems like a boring job most of the time. > >> > >> --- > >> This email has been checked for viruses by AVG. > >> https://www.avg.com > >> > >> > >> ___ > >> http://www.okiebenz.com > >> > >> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > >> > >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > >> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > >> > >> > >
Re: [MBZ] OT: Pilot asleep at controls of 747
I was flying business class to Amsterdam on KLM, a regular gig when we went to the Middle East or Africa, as KLM and El Al were the only airlines we were allowed to fly for security reasons. Anyway, I’m on the upper deck of a 747-400 and my seat back breaks before we take off. We’ve already pushed back and are taxiing, so I alert the cabin crew to my predicament and they’re all worked up, trying to figure out where they’re going to seat me in an aircraft that is full. I told them I wasn’t going to coach (I was hoping for a first class bump!) They got on the intercom and conferred for a minute, then a crew member came and got me and took me into the crew’s bunkroom. Since it was a flight to Europe there was only one crew on board, meaning the crew’s bunkroom wasn’t being used. So I got to fly to Amsterdam in a really nice private, albeit cramped, room. Nice bed and small reclining chair to sit in. -D > On Feb 25, 2019, at 11:22 PM, G Mann via Mercedes > wrote: > > Aircrew is strictly limited to FAA ruled "duty time" for each day. FAA > mandates how much "duty time" can be done which is not just "flight time at > the controls". Every airline worldwide has to meet FAA regulations with few > exceptions in order to operate in airline flight corridors and controlled > flight altitudes. > > Common practice for long haul international or over ocean flights is to fly > with two full crews. Unknown to most passengers, large airliners have crew > rest areas which are not public access, with bunks and kitchen. > > As far as sleeping at the controls and falling against the "stick". > rules state if you occupy a command seat, you have to have shoulder harness > and seat belt on. Shoulder harness has auto retract and tension, so if you > fall forward, it will kick in and "arrest" you. > > I contend the most dangerous part of airline travel is the drive to the > airport. Your personal view may vary. > > On Mon, Feb 25, 2019 at 8:36 PM Karl Wittnebel via Mercedes < > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > >> The crews are each three people on the 380. So there are six officers >> aboard the long haul flights. On Qantas anyway. >> >> There is considerable variation in crew training and staffing levels >> between airlines. I am sure other airlines fly similar routes with less >> manpower. >> >> Sleeping at the stick is never going to be a good look. Reminds me of the >> Payne Stewart crash: >> https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/1999_South_Dakota_Learjet_crash >> >> >> >> >> On Mon, Feb 25, 2019, 12:58 PM Larry Turner via Mercedes < >> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: >> >>> What I think he said was: a full crew (#1) handled the plane during >>> landing/take-off while the other rested, then Crew #2 that was resting >>> handled the duties during the middle part of the flight. I think a >>> crew consists of 3 to 5 or more members depending on the plane. >>> >>> On 2/25/2019 3:30 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote: So are you saying that in essence, the sleeping pilot is nothing to >> worry about? On Mon, Feb 25, 2019 at 11:49 AM Karl Wittnebel via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > Sydney to LA on the a380 qantas run two complete flight crews. One >>> handles > takeoff and landing. The other handles the middle bit. Crew 1 sleeps >> in >>> the > middle. > > For takeoff and landing there is always an extra officer on the flight >>> deck > whose job is only to watch the other three and pick up any errors or > irregularities. A friend is a pilot with them. > > On Sun, Feb 24, 2019, 2:08 PM archer75--- via Mercedes < > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > >> On Sun, 24 Feb 2019 15:28:45 -0500 >> "arche...@embarqmail.com" wrote: >> >>> Pilot asleep at controls of 747. >>> >>> https://www.instagram.com/p/BuHB1AyHpUM/ >>> >> Gerry wrote: >> I don't see how airline pilots stay awake on long flights with the >> autopilots flying the plane. Do they take turns napping? Read books? >>> Play >> games? Seems like a boring job most of the time. >> >> --- >> This email has been checked for viruses by AVG. >> https://www.avg.com >> >> >> ___ >> http://www.okiebenz.com >> >> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >> >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >> >> > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/
Re: [MBZ] OT: Pilot asleep at controls of 747
Aircrew is strictly limited to FAA ruled "duty time" for each day. FAA mandates how much "duty time" can be done which is not just "flight time at the controls". Every airline worldwide has to meet FAA regulations with few exceptions in order to operate in airline flight corridors and controlled flight altitudes. Common practice for long haul international or over ocean flights is to fly with two full crews. Unknown to most passengers, large airliners have crew rest areas which are not public access, with bunks and kitchen. As far as sleeping at the controls and falling against the "stick". rules state if you occupy a command seat, you have to have shoulder harness and seat belt on. Shoulder harness has auto retract and tension, so if you fall forward, it will kick in and "arrest" you. I contend the most dangerous part of airline travel is the drive to the airport. Your personal view may vary. On Mon, Feb 25, 2019 at 8:36 PM Karl Wittnebel via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > The crews are each three people on the 380. So there are six officers > aboard the long haul flights. On Qantas anyway. > > There is considerable variation in crew training and staffing levels > between airlines. I am sure other airlines fly similar routes with less > manpower. > > Sleeping at the stick is never going to be a good look. Reminds me of the > Payne Stewart crash: > https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/1999_South_Dakota_Learjet_crash > > > > > On Mon, Feb 25, 2019, 12:58 PM Larry Turner via Mercedes < > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > > > What I think he said was: a full crew (#1) handled the plane during > > landing/take-off while the other rested, then Crew #2 that was resting > > handled the duties during the middle part of the flight. I think a > > crew consists of 3 to 5 or more members depending on the plane. > > > > On 2/25/2019 3:30 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote: > > > So are you saying that in essence, the sleeping pilot is nothing to > worry > > > about? > > > > > > On Mon, Feb 25, 2019 at 11:49 AM Karl Wittnebel via Mercedes < > > > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > > > > > >> Sydney to LA on the a380 qantas run two complete flight crews. One > > handles > > >> takeoff and landing. The other handles the middle bit. Crew 1 sleeps > in > > the > > >> middle. > > >> > > >> For takeoff and landing there is always an extra officer on the flight > > deck > > >> whose job is only to watch the other three and pick up any errors or > > >> irregularities. A friend is a pilot with them. > > >> > > >> On Sun, Feb 24, 2019, 2:08 PM archer75--- via Mercedes < > > >> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > > >> > > >>> On Sun, 24 Feb 2019 15:28:45 -0500 > > >>> "arche...@embarqmail.com" wrote: > > >>> > > Pilot asleep at controls of 747. > > > > https://www.instagram.com/p/BuHB1AyHpUM/ > > > > >>> Gerry wrote: > > >>> I don't see how airline pilots stay awake on long flights with the > > >>> autopilots flying the plane. Do they take turns napping? Read books? > > Play > > >>> games? Seems like a boring job most of the time. > > >>> > > >>> --- > > >>> This email has been checked for viruses by AVG. > > >>> https://www.avg.com > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> ___ > > >>> http://www.okiebenz.com > > >>> > > >>> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > >>> > > >>> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > > >>> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > >>> > > >>> > > >> ___ > > >> http://www.okiebenz.com > > >> > > >> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > >> > > >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > > >> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > >> > > >> > > > ___ > > > http://www.okiebenz.com > > > > > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > > > > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > > > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > > > > > > > > ___ > > http://www.okiebenz.com > > > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Pilot asleep at controls of 747
The crews are each three people on the 380. So there are six officers aboard the long haul flights. On Qantas anyway. There is considerable variation in crew training and staffing levels between airlines. I am sure other airlines fly similar routes with less manpower. Sleeping at the stick is never going to be a good look. Reminds me of the Payne Stewart crash: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/1999_South_Dakota_Learjet_crash On Mon, Feb 25, 2019, 12:58 PM Larry Turner via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > What I think he said was: a full crew (#1) handled the plane during > landing/take-off while the other rested, then Crew #2 that was resting > handled the duties during the middle part of the flight. I think a > crew consists of 3 to 5 or more members depending on the plane. > > On 2/25/2019 3:30 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote: > > So are you saying that in essence, the sleeping pilot is nothing to worry > > about? > > > > On Mon, Feb 25, 2019 at 11:49 AM Karl Wittnebel via Mercedes < > > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > > > >> Sydney to LA on the a380 qantas run two complete flight crews. One > handles > >> takeoff and landing. The other handles the middle bit. Crew 1 sleeps in > the > >> middle. > >> > >> For takeoff and landing there is always an extra officer on the flight > deck > >> whose job is only to watch the other three and pick up any errors or > >> irregularities. A friend is a pilot with them. > >> > >> On Sun, Feb 24, 2019, 2:08 PM archer75--- via Mercedes < > >> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > >> > >>> On Sun, 24 Feb 2019 15:28:45 -0500 > >>> "arche...@embarqmail.com" wrote: > >>> > Pilot asleep at controls of 747. > > https://www.instagram.com/p/BuHB1AyHpUM/ > > >>> Gerry wrote: > >>> I don't see how airline pilots stay awake on long flights with the > >>> autopilots flying the plane. Do they take turns napping? Read books? > Play > >>> games? Seems like a boring job most of the time. > >>> > >>> --- > >>> This email has been checked for viruses by AVG. > >>> https://www.avg.com > >>> > >>> > >>> ___ > >>> http://www.okiebenz.com > >>> > >>> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > >>> > >>> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > >>> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > >>> > >>> > >> ___ > >> http://www.okiebenz.com > >> > >> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > >> > >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > >> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > >> > >> > > ___ > > http://www.okiebenz.com > > > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Pilot asleep at controls of 747
God point. Sleep is contagious. Yet - these things fly themselves. On Mon, Feb 25, 2019 at 8:06 PM archer75--- via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > It does if the other pilot goes to sleep as well. I've read about two > instances of that happening to major airline pilots; one plane flew out > over the Pacific, and the other either overflew, or woke up before they > overflew, their destination on a flight from the West Coast to somewhere in > Minnesota IIRC. > Gerry > ... > Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote: > > > I read the message. Again - Does the photo show something to be concerned > > about or not? > > > > On Mon, Feb 25, 2019 at 3:58 PM Larry Turner via Mercedes < > > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > > > > > What I think he said was: a full crew (#1) handled the plane during > > > landing/take-off while the other rested, then Crew #2 that was resting > > > handled the duties during the middle part of the flight. I think a > > > crew consists of 3 to 5 or more members depending on the plane. > > > > > > On 2/25/2019 3:30 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote: > > > > So are you saying that in essence, the sleeping pilot is nothing to > worry > > > > about? > > > > > > > > On Mon, Feb 25, 2019 at 11:49 AM Karl Wittnebel via Mercedes < > > > > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > > > > > > > >> Sydney to LA on the a380 qantas run two complete flight crews. One > > > handles > > > >> takeoff and landing. The other handles the middle bit. Crew 1 > sleeps in > > > the > > > >> middle. > > > >> > > > >> For takeoff and landing there is always an extra officer on the > flight > > > deck > > > >> whose job is only to watch the other three and pick up any errors or > > > >> irregularities. A friend is a pilot with them. > > > >> > > > >> On Sun, Feb 24, 2019, 2:08 PM archer75--- via Mercedes < > > > >> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > > > >> > > > >>> On Sun, 24 Feb 2019 15:28:45 -0500 > > > >>> "arche...@embarqmail.com" wrote: > > > >>> > > > Pilot asleep at controls of 747. > > > > > > https://www.instagram.com/p/BuHB1AyHpUM/ > > > > > > >>> Gerry wrote: > > > >>> I don't see how airline pilots stay awake on long flights with the > > > >>> autopilots flying the plane. Do they take turns napping? Read > books? > > > Play > > > >>> games? Seems like a boring job most of the time. > > > >>> > > > >>> --- > > > >>> This email has been checked for viruses by AVG. > > > >>> https://www.avg.com > > > >>> > > > >>> > > > >>> ___ > > > >>> http://www.okiebenz.com > > > >>> > > > >>> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > > >>> > > > >>> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > > > >>> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > >>> > > > >>> > > > >> ___ > > > >> http://www.okiebenz.com > > > >> > > > >> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > > >> > > > >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > > > >> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > >> > > > >> > > > > ___ > > > > http://www.okiebenz.com > > > > > > > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > > > > > > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > > > > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ___ > > > http://www.okiebenz.com > > > > > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > > > > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > > > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > > > > > > ___ > > http://www.okiebenz.com > > > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > > > -- > arche...@embarqmail.com > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Pilot asleep at controls of 747
It does if the other pilot goes to sleep as well. I've read about two instances of that happening to major airline pilots; one plane flew out over the Pacific, and the other either overflew, or woke up before they overflew, their destination on a flight from the West Coast to somewhere in Minnesota IIRC. Gerry ... Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote: > I read the message. Again - Does the photo show something to be concerned > about or not? > > On Mon, Feb 25, 2019 at 3:58 PM Larry Turner via Mercedes < > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > > > What I think he said was: a full crew (#1) handled the plane during > > landing/take-off while the other rested, then Crew #2 that was resting > > handled the duties during the middle part of the flight. I think a > > crew consists of 3 to 5 or more members depending on the plane. > > > > On 2/25/2019 3:30 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote: > > > So are you saying that in essence, the sleeping pilot is nothing to worry > > > about? > > > > > > On Mon, Feb 25, 2019 at 11:49 AM Karl Wittnebel via Mercedes < > > > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > > > > > >> Sydney to LA on the a380 qantas run two complete flight crews. One > > handles > > >> takeoff and landing. The other handles the middle bit. Crew 1 sleeps in > > the > > >> middle. > > >> > > >> For takeoff and landing there is always an extra officer on the flight > > deck > > >> whose job is only to watch the other three and pick up any errors or > > >> irregularities. A friend is a pilot with them. > > >> > > >> On Sun, Feb 24, 2019, 2:08 PM archer75--- via Mercedes < > > >> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > > >> > > >>> On Sun, 24 Feb 2019 15:28:45 -0500 > > >>> "arche...@embarqmail.com" wrote: > > >>> > > Pilot asleep at controls of 747. > > > > https://www.instagram.com/p/BuHB1AyHpUM/ > > > > >>> Gerry wrote: > > >>> I don't see how airline pilots stay awake on long flights with the > > >>> autopilots flying the plane. Do they take turns napping? Read books? > > Play > > >>> games? Seems like a boring job most of the time. > > >>> > > >>> --- > > >>> This email has been checked for viruses by AVG. > > >>> https://www.avg.com > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> ___ > > >>> http://www.okiebenz.com > > >>> > > >>> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > >>> > > >>> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > > >>> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > >>> > > >>> > > >> ___ > > >> http://www.okiebenz.com > > >> > > >> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > >> > > >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > > >> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > >> > > >> > > > ___ > > > http://www.okiebenz.com > > > > > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > > > > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > > > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > > > > > > > > ___ > > http://www.okiebenz.com > > > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > -- arche...@embarqmail.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Pilot asleep at controls of 747
Only if he slumps forward against the controls. On Mon, Feb 25, 2019 at 3:40 PM Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > I read the message. Again - Does the photo show something to be concerned > about or not? > > On Mon, Feb 25, 2019 at 3:58 PM Larry Turner via Mercedes < > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > > > What I think he said was: a full crew (#1) handled the plane during > > landing/take-off while the other rested, then Crew #2 that was resting > > handled the duties during the middle part of the flight. I think a > > crew consists of 3 to 5 or more members depending on the plane. > > > > On 2/25/2019 3:30 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote: > > > So are you saying that in essence, the sleeping pilot is nothing to > worry > > > about? > > > > > > On Mon, Feb 25, 2019 at 11:49 AM Karl Wittnebel via Mercedes < > > > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > > > > > >> Sydney to LA on the a380 qantas run two complete flight crews. One > > handles > > >> takeoff and landing. The other handles the middle bit. Crew 1 sleeps > in > > the > > >> middle. > > >> > > >> For takeoff and landing there is always an extra officer on the flight > > deck > > >> whose job is only to watch the other three and pick up any errors or > > >> irregularities. A friend is a pilot with them. > > >> > > >> On Sun, Feb 24, 2019, 2:08 PM archer75--- via Mercedes < > > >> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > > >> > > >>> On Sun, 24 Feb 2019 15:28:45 -0500 > > >>> "arche...@embarqmail.com" wrote: > > >>> > > Pilot asleep at controls of 747. > > > > https://www.instagram.com/p/BuHB1AyHpUM/ > > > > >>> Gerry wrote: > > >>> I don't see how airline pilots stay awake on long flights with the > > >>> autopilots flying the plane. Do they take turns napping? Read books? > > Play > > >>> games? Seems like a boring job most of the time. > > >>> > > >>> --- > > >>> This email has been checked for viruses by AVG. > > >>> https://www.avg.com > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> ___ > > >>> http://www.okiebenz.com > > >>> > > >>> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > >>> > > >>> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > > >>> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > >>> > > >>> > > >> ___ > > >> http://www.okiebenz.com > > >> > > >> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > >> > > >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > > >> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > >> > > >> > > > ___ > > > http://www.okiebenz.com > > > > > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > > > > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > > > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > > > > > > > > ___ > > http://www.okiebenz.com > > > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > -- OK Don *“Travel is fatal to prejudice, bigotry and narrow-mindedness, and many of our people need it sorely on these accounts.”* – Mark Twain "There are three kinds of men: The ones that learns by reading. The few who learn by observation. The rest of them have to pee on the electric fence for themselves." WILL ROGERS, *The Manly Wisdom of Will Rogers* 2013 F150, 18 mpg 2017 Subaru Legacy, 30 mpg 1957 C182A, 12 mpg - but at 150 mph! ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Pilot asleep at controls of 747
I read the message. Again - Does the photo show something to be concerned about or not? On Mon, Feb 25, 2019 at 3:58 PM Larry Turner via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > What I think he said was: a full crew (#1) handled the plane during > landing/take-off while the other rested, then Crew #2 that was resting > handled the duties during the middle part of the flight. I think a > crew consists of 3 to 5 or more members depending on the plane. > > On 2/25/2019 3:30 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote: > > So are you saying that in essence, the sleeping pilot is nothing to worry > > about? > > > > On Mon, Feb 25, 2019 at 11:49 AM Karl Wittnebel via Mercedes < > > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > > > >> Sydney to LA on the a380 qantas run two complete flight crews. One > handles > >> takeoff and landing. The other handles the middle bit. Crew 1 sleeps in > the > >> middle. > >> > >> For takeoff and landing there is always an extra officer on the flight > deck > >> whose job is only to watch the other three and pick up any errors or > >> irregularities. A friend is a pilot with them. > >> > >> On Sun, Feb 24, 2019, 2:08 PM archer75--- via Mercedes < > >> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > >> > >>> On Sun, 24 Feb 2019 15:28:45 -0500 > >>> "arche...@embarqmail.com" wrote: > >>> > Pilot asleep at controls of 747. > > https://www.instagram.com/p/BuHB1AyHpUM/ > > >>> Gerry wrote: > >>> I don't see how airline pilots stay awake on long flights with the > >>> autopilots flying the plane. Do they take turns napping? Read books? > Play > >>> games? Seems like a boring job most of the time. > >>> > >>> --- > >>> This email has been checked for viruses by AVG. > >>> https://www.avg.com > >>> > >>> > >>> ___ > >>> http://www.okiebenz.com > >>> > >>> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > >>> > >>> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > >>> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > >>> > >>> > >> ___ > >> http://www.okiebenz.com > >> > >> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > >> > >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > >> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > >> > >> > > ___ > > http://www.okiebenz.com > > > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Pilot asleep at controls of 747
What I think he said was: a full crew (#1) handled the plane during landing/take-off while the other rested, then Crew #2 that was resting handled the duties during the middle part of the flight. I think a crew consists of 3 to 5 or more members depending on the plane. On 2/25/2019 3:30 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote: So are you saying that in essence, the sleeping pilot is nothing to worry about? On Mon, Feb 25, 2019 at 11:49 AM Karl Wittnebel via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: Sydney to LA on the a380 qantas run two complete flight crews. One handles takeoff and landing. The other handles the middle bit. Crew 1 sleeps in the middle. For takeoff and landing there is always an extra officer on the flight deck whose job is only to watch the other three and pick up any errors or irregularities. A friend is a pilot with them. On Sun, Feb 24, 2019, 2:08 PM archer75--- via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: On Sun, 24 Feb 2019 15:28:45 -0500 "arche...@embarqmail.com" wrote: Pilot asleep at controls of 747. https://www.instagram.com/p/BuHB1AyHpUM/ Gerry wrote: I don't see how airline pilots stay awake on long flights with the autopilots flying the plane. Do they take turns napping? Read books? Play games? Seems like a boring job most of the time. --- This email has been checked for viruses by AVG. https://www.avg.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Pilot asleep at controls of 747
So are you saying that in essence, the sleeping pilot is nothing to worry about? On Mon, Feb 25, 2019 at 11:49 AM Karl Wittnebel via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > Sydney to LA on the a380 qantas run two complete flight crews. One handles > takeoff and landing. The other handles the middle bit. Crew 1 sleeps in the > middle. > > For takeoff and landing there is always an extra officer on the flight deck > whose job is only to watch the other three and pick up any errors or > irregularities. A friend is a pilot with them. > > On Sun, Feb 24, 2019, 2:08 PM archer75--- via Mercedes < > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > > > On Sun, 24 Feb 2019 15:28:45 -0500 > > "arche...@embarqmail.com" wrote: > > > > > Pilot asleep at controls of 747. > > > > > > https://www.instagram.com/p/BuHB1AyHpUM/ > > > > > Gerry wrote: > > I don't see how airline pilots stay awake on long flights with the > > autopilots flying the plane. Do they take turns napping? Read books? Play > > games? Seems like a boring job most of the time. > > > > --- > > This email has been checked for viruses by AVG. > > https://www.avg.com > > > > > > ___ > > http://www.okiebenz.com > > > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Pilot asleep at controls of 747
Sydney to LA on the a380 qantas run two complete flight crews. One handles takeoff and landing. The other handles the middle bit. Crew 1 sleeps in the middle. For takeoff and landing there is always an extra officer on the flight deck whose job is only to watch the other three and pick up any errors or irregularities. A friend is a pilot with them. On Sun, Feb 24, 2019, 2:08 PM archer75--- via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > On Sun, 24 Feb 2019 15:28:45 -0500 > "arche...@embarqmail.com" wrote: > > > Pilot asleep at controls of 747. > > > > https://www.instagram.com/p/BuHB1AyHpUM/ > > > Gerry wrote: > I don't see how airline pilots stay awake on long flights with the > autopilots flying the plane. Do they take turns napping? Read books? Play > games? Seems like a boring job most of the time. > > --- > This email has been checked for viruses by AVG. > https://www.avg.com > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Pilot asleep at controls of 747
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rQbj9uvYL8I https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WMhYl74vw2c --FT On 2/24/19 6:13 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote: Yeah, excitement is NEVER something to hope for. On Sun, Feb 24, 2019 at 5:08 PM archer75--- via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: On Sun, 24 Feb 2019 15:28:45 -0500 "arche...@embarqmail.com" wrote: Pilot asleep at controls of 747. https://www.instagram.com/p/BuHB1AyHpUM/ Gerry wrote: I don't see how airline pilots stay awake on long flights with the autopilots flying the plane. Do they take turns napping? Read books? Play games? Seems like a boring job most of the time. --- This email has been checked for viruses by AVG. https://www.avg.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- --FT ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Pilot asleep at controls of 747
Yeah, excitement is NEVER something to hope for. On Sun, Feb 24, 2019 at 5:08 PM archer75--- via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > On Sun, 24 Feb 2019 15:28:45 -0500 > "arche...@embarqmail.com" wrote: > > > Pilot asleep at controls of 747. > > > > https://www.instagram.com/p/BuHB1AyHpUM/ > > > Gerry wrote: > I don't see how airline pilots stay awake on long flights with the > autopilots flying the plane. Do they take turns napping? Read books? Play > games? Seems like a boring job most of the time. > > --- > This email has been checked for viruses by AVG. > https://www.avg.com > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] OT: Pilot asleep at controls of 747
On Sun, 24 Feb 2019 15:28:45 -0500 "arche...@embarqmail.com" wrote: > Pilot asleep at controls of 747. > > https://www.instagram.com/p/BuHB1AyHpUM/ > Gerry wrote: I don't see how airline pilots stay awake on long flights with the autopilots flying the plane. Do they take turns napping? Read books? Play games? Seems like a boring job most of the time. --- This email has been checked for viruses by AVG. https://www.avg.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
