Re: [MBZ] OT: sandblasting, and Sears is the new Harbor Freight
Tom Hargrave wrote: Sears has sold products that were made overseas for a lot longer than you realize. The hand tools, or at least most of the hand tools, are still made in USA, but the set I bought last year are not made to the same standard as the ones my dad bought in the 50's and 60's. The hand tools have had several manufacturers over the years, makes it fun when you want internal parts for a 50 year old ratchet so you can repair it instead of exchanging it. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: sandblasting, and Sears is the new Harbor Freight
Some of the HF tools are better quality than the Snears ones were 30 years ago For example: I have Pittsburgh combination wrenches that are better made and have thinner box walls than my Crapsman metric wrenches I bought in 1972. I always theorized that snears specified them with thick box walls so they could use poorer quality alloys and less temper and still keep the breakage % low enough. I often can't get the box end over boltheads in tight places because the box wall is so thick. Last time I tried to exchange a broken Crapsman tool, I was told they didn't honor the lifetime warranty The crapsman sockets were always good, but expensive, but I have not bought any for years. Don't know if they are still good. At 06:48 AM 7/29/2008, you wrote: Tom Hargrave wrote: Sears has sold products that were made overseas for a lot longer than you realize. The hand tools, or at least most of the hand tools, are still made in USA, but the set I bought last year are not made to the same standard as the ones my dad bought in the 50's and 60's. The hand tools have had several manufacturers over the years, makes it fun when you want internal parts for a 50 year old ratchet so you can repair it instead of exchanging it. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com Loren Faeth ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: sandblasting, and Sears is the new Harbor Freight
Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: sandblasting, and Sears is the new Harbor Freight To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Tom Hargrave wrote: Sears has sold products that were made overseas for a lot longer than you realize. Tom- After buying two different saws from Sears I've come to the conclusion that if I'd normally consider Sears I might as well get it from HF. IN GENERAL a lot cheaper, about the same quality, and a lot less gnashing of teeth when it breaks sooner than expected. That said I tend to buy keeper things from estate sales and such. Craigslist is a great source. Tony Wirtel ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: sandblasting, and Sears is the new Harbor Freight
Sears has never failed to exchange broken tools for me. Last year I exchanged a 6mm Allen wrench socket because the bit would keep falling out. I exchanged a 1/4 u-joint because it let the socket fall off if it bumped into something on it's way to the bolt head. They exchanged my 25 year old snap type torque wrench because the paper scale had slipped down and I couldn't read the torque setting. All with no questions, no examination of the old tool. Must vary by store? On Tue, Jul 29, 2008 at 7:43 AM, Loren Faeth [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Some of the HF tools are better quality than the Snears ones were 30 years ago For example: I have Pittsburgh combination wrenches that are better made and have thinner box walls than my Crapsman metric wrenches I bought in 1972. I always theorized that snears specified them with thick box walls so they could use poorer quality alloys and less temper and still keep the breakage % low enough. I often can't get the box end over boltheads in tight places because the box wall is so thick. Last time I tried to exchange a broken Crapsman tool, I was told they didn't honor the lifetime warranty The crapsman sockets were always good, but expensive, but I have not bought any for years. Don't know if they are still good. -- OK Don, KD5NRO Norman, OK There are three kinds of lies: lies, damn lies, and statistics. -Benjamin Disraeli and/or Mark Twain '90 300D (Rattled), '92 300D (Saber), ' '81 240D (Gramps), '97 Ply Grand Voyager (Vincent van-go) ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] OT: sandblasting, and Sears is the new Harbor Freight
Picked up a Craftsman sandblasting kit at Sears. Made in China. I use the quotes because certainly this would not have qualified for the Craftsman name 20 years ago. Maybe not even 10 years ago. Anyway -- I'm trying to rejuvinate a rusty gas tank. The interior is good. The exterior is rusty, but no perforations, I don't think it's very deep anywhere but bubbly under the paint or undercoat or whatever is on the tank. Tried scraping, wire brushing, naval jelly, and methylene chloride paint stripper. Nothing worked very well IMO. So I saw this sandplaster for $25 and thought that's cheaper than buying more paint stripper so I decided to give it a try. Seems to work very well, though the play sand I'm tried using is too wet right now. Should I use that white silica sand? Do I need to worry about blasting through the metal at all? I assume if it's rusted enough that I put a hole in it that it was not long for life anyway. But I've never sandblasted before so I'm not sure how quickly I could eat through the sheet metal. Allan -- 1983 300D ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: sandblasting, and Sears is the new Harbor Freight
Sears has sold products that were made overseas for a lot longer than you realize. Thanks, Tom Hargrave www.kegkits.com 256-656-1924 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Allan Streib Sent: Monday, July 28, 2008 9:00 PM To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: [MBZ] OT: sandblasting, and Sears is the new Harbor Freight Picked up a Craftsman sandblasting kit at Sears. Made in China. I use the quotes because certainly this would not have qualified for the Craftsman name 20 years ago. Maybe not even 10 years ago. Anyway -- I'm trying to rejuvinate a rusty gas tank. The interior is good. The exterior is rusty, but no perforations, I don't think it's very deep anywhere but bubbly under the paint or undercoat or whatever is on the tank. Tried scraping, wire brushing, naval jelly, and methylene chloride paint stripper. Nothing worked very well IMO. So I saw this sandplaster for $25 and thought that's cheaper than buying more paint stripper so I decided to give it a try. Seems to work very well, though the play sand I'm tried using is too wet right now. Should I use that white silica sand? Do I need to worry about blasting through the metal at all? I assume if it's rusted enough that I put a hole in it that it was not long for life anyway. But I've never sandblasted before so I'm not sure how quickly I could eat through the sheet metal. Allan -- 1983 300D ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.526 / Virus Database: 270.5.6/1577 - Release Date: 7/28/2008 6:55 AM No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.526 / Virus Database: 270.5.6/1577 - Release Date: 7/28/2008 6:55 AM ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: sandblasting, and Sears is the new Harbor Freight
On Mon, 28 Jul 2008 21:59:38 -0400 Allan Streib [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So I saw this sandplaster for $25 and thought that's cheaper than buying more paint stripper so I decided to give it a try. Seems to work very well, though the play sand I'm tried using is too wet right now. Should I use that white silica sand? You should be using a HEPA respirator no matter what type of sand you're using, but with silica sand it's most important due to the very small size of the grains. Do a search on sandblasting sand and see what's recommended. Do I need to worry about blasting through the metal at all? If it's not falling apart with rust you really don't have to worry. I assume if it's rusted enough that I put a hole in it that it was not long for life anyway. That would be my presumption, too. But I've never sandblasted before so I'm not sure how quickly I could eat through the sheet metal. You can get a tin can and practice on that. But use your respirator. Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
