Re: [MBZ] OT: value of Citroen DS Wagon?
On Jan 16, 2008, at 3:46 PM, Mitch Haley wrote: > > You had my (high) interest until I got to the "automatic gearbox". > The SM was my dream car when I was ten years old. Actually I > wouldn't mind having all three of that doctor's cars. I would > mind having to pay for them, unfortunately. All the cars I've > bought in my life don't add up to $20k. > > Mitch. > If it were a 5 speed car, it would have already been sold, that I am sure. I will say, for a slushbox it is not that bad. The doctor had a neat collection, three Citroens, a '69.5 DS21, the 72 SM, and a '89 CX Prestige, plus the 6.3 and the Rolls. He also had three Subaru SVXs. Nice driving car, the SVX; I was quite impressed. He was a real gentleman, brilliant, compassionate, and always had a way to brighten things up when all looked grim. Mathieu ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: value of Citroen DS Wagon?
On Jan 16, 2008, at 4:48 PM, Zach wrote: > > No sure whether its a 19 or 21, I didnt get that close. Will check it > out again on saturday. Yes, its a full wagon. Those are neat cars. Cool looking too. For comps, look at UK sites, but keep in mind the prices will be higher than what can be realized in the US. For example a comparable SM to what I have will sell for in excess of 15k pounds in the UK. > > Is there any way to gauge the condition of the hydraulics without it > running? I know it sounds like a dumb question but I am wondering if > there is some common sign like leaking struts or a particular color > hydraulic fluid... > Without having the system raised, good luck. The fluid is green and is known as LHM assuming the correct stuff has been used. Look around the ram part of the struts for leaks. Also check the reservoir. If it still has most of its fluid in it, that is a good sign. There should be a sight glass on the side. >> From 20 feet it looked solid, but there was alos a lot of snow on the > thing! I will crawl under it next time.. Good luck with it, but beware the tin worm. They do evil things to those cars. Mathieu ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: value of Citroen DS Wagon?
No sure whether its a 19 or 21, I didnt get that close. Will check it out again on saturday. Yes, its a full wagon. Is there any way to gauge the condition of the hydraulics without it running? I know it sounds like a dumb question but I am wondering if there is some common sign like leaking struts or a particular color hydraulic fluid... >From 20 feet it looked solid, but there was alos a lot of snow on the thing! I will crawl under it next time.. --- "Mathieu J. Cama" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> schrieb: > Zach,, > > Are you talking about a DS19, DS21, or something else? Full wagon, I > assume? I believe they were named safari wagons? > > Well, they are uncommon especially here in the States. Problem areas > include, but are not limited to: > > Hydraulic system for the suspension which also feed the brakes and > power steering. Not a bad system by design, but they often suffered > at > the hands of unskilled technicians. > > Electrical systems. Think early lucas, but at least ground is the > correct polarity. > > Rust, rust, and more rust! Think w114 coupe daily driven in the > north-east. > > If it has a semi-automatic gearbox, think MB hydrak! Ugh! > > Seriously, they are neat cars, drive and ride like nothing else. The > 4 > cylinder is a simple motor. Parts are not too hard to come across > once > you have an in with a few suppliers. Beware of inferior aftermarket > quality parts. There are times when you will need to ship bits in > from > overseas though. Napa carries little more than oil filters for these > cars! > > As for price, they run the gamut. I saw a clean DS21 wagon go on EBay > > about two years ago for under $4k, low mileage, almost no rust, > stored > indoors for a few years. > > Last comment on them, I enjoy driving a Citroen more than I enjoy > working on it. > > Mathieu > > 1972 Citroen SM, 16k original miles, for sale on consignment > www.oldworldauto.com > > > > > On Jan 16, 2008, at 2:25 PM, Zach wrote: > > > > > Off topic... As if that is possible on this list... > > > > Anyone know what a non-running project Citroen DS station wagon is > > worth? Looks pretty complete and clean, last tabbed in 1990... > > > > Anyone know what the problem areas are? > > > > -Zach > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: value of Citroen DS Wagon?
"Mathieu J. Cama" wrote: > > 1972 Citroen SM, 16k original miles, for sale on consignment > www.oldworldauto.com You had my (high) interest until I got to the "automatic gearbox". The SM was my dream car when I was ten years old. Actually I wouldn't mind having all three of that doctor's cars. I would mind having to pay for them, unfortunately. All the cars I've bought in my life don't add up to $20k. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: value of Citroen DS Wagon?
Zach,, Are you talking about a DS19, DS21, or something else? Full wagon, I assume? I believe they were named safari wagons? Well, they are uncommon especially here in the States. Problem areas include, but are not limited to: Hydraulic system for the suspension which also feed the brakes and power steering. Not a bad system by design, but they often suffered at the hands of unskilled technicians. Electrical systems. Think early lucas, but at least ground is the correct polarity. Rust, rust, and more rust! Think w114 coupe daily driven in the north-east. If it has a semi-automatic gearbox, think MB hydrak! Ugh! Seriously, they are neat cars, drive and ride like nothing else. The 4 cylinder is a simple motor. Parts are not too hard to come across once you have an in with a few suppliers. Beware of inferior aftermarket quality parts. There are times when you will need to ship bits in from overseas though. Napa carries little more than oil filters for these cars! As for price, they run the gamut. I saw a clean DS21 wagon go on EBay about two years ago for under $4k, low mileage, almost no rust, stored indoors for a few years. Last comment on them, I enjoy driving a Citroen more than I enjoy working on it. Mathieu 1972 Citroen SM, 16k original miles, for sale on consignment www.oldworldauto.com On Jan 16, 2008, at 2:25 PM, Zach wrote: > > Off topic... As if that is possible on this list... > > Anyone know what a non-running project Citroen DS station wagon is > worth? Looks pretty complete and clean, last tabbed in 1990... > > Anyone know what the problem areas are? > > -Zach ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: value of Citroen DS Wagon?
I know next to nothing about those rigs, but I think they're super cool. If you do end up grabbing it, let me know, 'cause I'd love a chance to check one out. On Jan 16, 2008 11:25 AM, Zach <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Off topic... As if that is possible on this list... > > Anyone know what a non-running project Citroen DS station wagon is > worth? Looks pretty complete and clean, last tabbed in 1990... > > Anyone know what the problem areas are? > > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] OT: value of Citroen DS Wagon?
Off topic... As if that is possible on this list... Anyone know what a non-running project Citroen DS station wagon is worth? Looks pretty complete and clean, last tabbed in 1990... Anyone know what the problem areas are? -Zach ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
