Re: [MBZ] OT: when your crooked auctioneer wants to steal your $2 million car...

[Curley McLain via Mercedes]

How do you find out who the bonding company is?


tyee165 via Mercedes <mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com>
January 1, 2020 at 7:22 PM
Then you should have made a claim and the bonding company should have 
paid you. It is insurance.Sent from my Galaxy Tab® A
 Original message From: Curley McLain via Mercedes 
 Date: 2020-01-01 11:54 AM (GMT-06:00) To: 
tyee165 via Mercedes  Cc: Curley McLain 
<126die...@gmail.com> Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: when your crooked 
auctioneer wants to steal your $2
  million car... I'm sure he was/is bonded.> tyee165 via Mercedes 
<mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com>> January 1, 2020 at 9:52 AM> If there 
is a next time, look for an auctioneer who is bonded.Sent > from my 
Galaxy Tab® A>  Original message From: Curley McLain 
via Mercedes >  Date: 2019-12-31 2:36 PM 
(GMT-06:00) To: Mitch > Haley via Mercedes  Cc: 
Curley McLain > <126die...@gmail.com> Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: when your 
crooked > auctioneer wants to steal your $2>   million car... I 
consigned a bunch o stuff to an auctioneer.   I > asked what assurance 
I had that i'd receive the proceeds less > commission.  He has one of 
the big companies who come to the site to > auction stores, industrial 
equip, etc., so out of state. He gave me > this schpeil about how he 
was bound by law and honor etc, to pay me > and that there were dire 
consequences for an auctioneer who did not > pay the owner, Blah 
blah.   The stuff brought some amount.   Less > commission, I was owed 
over 18k.  Every time I asked about payment for > the first couple of 
weeks, it was "waiting for settlement."    After 2 > weeks, nobody was 
available to talk.   Then they quit answering my > calls at all.   I 
ended up with nothing.  Popos weren't interested, > feds said it was 
"inconsequential amount" etc.Auctioneers are only one > step above 
lawyers.   But all the others I dealt with were not going > to steal 
everything.  Yes, they have all kinds of tricks that always > work to 
their favor, but most are not outright thieves. Some of their > tricks 
work to the seller's benefit. Seller's benefit is also to the > 
benefit of the auctioneer.   I liked the BBC series, "the Irish RM" > 
where one character was "Larry the Liar" the auctioneer.Beware!> Mitch 
> Haley via Mercedes <mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com>> December 31, 2019 
> at 1:35 PM> When the big auctions houses are willing to be openly > 
crooked and > refuse to take bids on your high dollar car, > 
BringATrailer starts > looking pretty good...>> > 
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Re: [MBZ] OT: when your crooked auctioneer wants to steal your $2 million car...

[tyee165 via Mercedes]

Then I guess one should ask for the name of the bonding company and verify that 
the insurance is in place.Sent from my Galaxy Tab® A
 Original message From: Mitch Haley via Mercedes 
 Date: 2020-01-01  1:29 PM  (GMT-06:00) To: Mercedes 
Discussion List  Cc: Mitch Haley 
 Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: when your crooked auctioneer 
wants to steal your $2
  million car... > On January 1, 2020 at 10:52 AM tyee165 via Mercedes 
 wrote:> > > If there is a next time, look for an 
auctioneer who is bonded.Sent from my Galaxy Tab® AIME, when somebody who is 
commercially bonded is going down the tubes, they quit paying for the bonding 
before they start stealing from customers. Found that out with a couple of 
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Re: [MBZ] OT: when your crooked auctioneer wants to steal your $2 million car...

[tyee165 via Mercedes]

Then you should have made a claim and the bonding company should have paid you. 
It is insurance.Sent from my Galaxy Tab® A
 Original message From: Curley McLain via Mercedes 
 Date: 2020-01-01  11:54 AM  (GMT-06:00) To: tyee165 via 
Mercedes  Cc: Curley McLain <126die...@gmail.com> 
Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: when your crooked auctioneer wants to steal your $2
  million car... I'm sure he was/is bonded.> tyee165 via Mercedes 
<mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com>> January 1, 2020 at 9:52 AM> If there is a next 
time, look for an auctioneer who is bonded.Sent > from my Galaxy Tab® A> 
 Original message From: Curley McLain via Mercedes > 
 Date: 2019-12-31 2:36 PM (GMT-06:00) To: Mitch > Haley 
via Mercedes  Cc: Curley McLain > <126die...@gmail.com> 
Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: when your crooked > auctioneer wants to steal your $2>   
million car... I consigned a bunch o stuff to an auctioneer.   I > asked what 
assurance I had that i'd receive the proceeds less > commission.  He has one of 
the big companies who come to the site to > auction stores, industrial equip, 
etc., so out of state. He gave me > this schpeil about how he was bound by law 
and honor etc, to pay me > and that there were dire consequences for an 
auctioneer who did not > pay the owner, Blah blah.   The stuff brought some 
amount.   Less > commission, I was owed over 18k.  Every time I asked about 
payment for > the first couple of weeks, it was "waiting for settlement."    
After 2 > weeks, nobody was available to talk.   Then they quit answering my > 
calls at all.   I ended up with nothing.  Popos weren't interested, > feds said 
it was "inconsequential amount" etc.Auctioneers are only one > step above 
lawyers.   But all the others I dealt with were not going > to steal 
everything.  Yes, they have all kinds of tricks that always > work to their 
favor, but most are not outright thieves.  Some of their > tricks work to the 
seller's benefit. Seller's benefit is also to the > benefit of the auctioneer.  
 I liked the BBC series, "the Irish RM" > where one character was "Larry the 
Liar" the auctioneer.Beware!> Mitch > Haley via Mercedes 
<mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com>> December 31, 2019 > at 1:35 PM> When the big 
auctions houses are willing to be openly > crooked and > refuse to take bids on 
your high dollar car, > BringATrailer starts > looking pretty good...>> > 
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Re: [MBZ] OT: when your crooked auctioneer wants to steal your $2 million car...

[Mitch Haley via Mercedes]

> On January 1, 2020 at 10:52 AM tyee165 via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> 
> If there is a next time, look for an auctioneer who is bonded.Sent from my 
> Galaxy Tab® A

IME, when somebody who is commercially bonded is going down the tubes, they 
quit paying for the bonding before they start stealing from customers. Found 
that out with a couple of 200oz silver bars in the metal dealer's 'bonded 
storage'.

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Re: [MBZ] OT: when your crooked auctioneer wants to steal your $2 million car...

[Curley McLain via Mercedes]

I'm sure he was/is bonded.


tyee165 via Mercedes <mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com>
January 1, 2020 at 9:52 AM
If there is a next time, look for an auctioneer who is bonded.Sent 
from my Galaxy Tab® A
 Original message From: Curley McLain via Mercedes 
 Date: 2019-12-31 2:36 PM (GMT-06:00) To: Mitch 
Haley via Mercedes  Cc: Curley McLain 
<126die...@gmail.com> Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: when your crooked 
auctioneer wants to steal your $2
  million car... I consigned a bunch o stuff to an auctioneer.   I 
asked what assurance I had that i'd receive the proceeds less 
commission.  He has one of the big companies who come to the site to 
auction stores, industrial equip, etc., so out of state. He gave me 
this schpeil about how he was bound by law and honor etc, to pay me 
and that there were dire consequences for an auctioneer who did not 
pay the owner, Blah blah.   The stuff brought some amount.   Less 
commission, I was owed over 18k.  Every time I asked about payment for 
the first couple of weeks, it was "waiting for settlement."    After 2 
weeks, nobody was available to talk.   Then they quit answering my 
calls at all.   I ended up with nothing.  Popos weren't interested, 
feds said it was "inconsequential amount" etc.Auctioneers are only one 
step above lawyers.   But all the others I dealt with were not going 
to steal everything.  Yes, they have all kinds of tricks that always 
work to their favor, but most are not outright thieves.  Some of their 
tricks work to the seller's benefit. Seller's benefit is also to the 
benefit of the auctioneer.   I liked the BBC series, "the Irish RM" 
where one character was "Larry the Liar" the auctioneer.Beware!> Mitch 
Haley via Mercedes <mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com>> December 31, 2019 
at 1:35 PM> When the big auctions houses are willing to be openly 
crooked and > refuse to take bids on your high dollar car, 
BringATrailer starts > looking pretty good...>> 
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Re: [MBZ] OT: when your crooked auctioneer wants to steal your $2 million car...

[tyee165 via Mercedes]

If there is a next time, look for an auctioneer who is bonded.Sent from my 
Galaxy Tab® A
 Original message From: Curley McLain via Mercedes 
 Date: 2019-12-31  2:36 PM  (GMT-06:00) To: Mitch Haley 
via Mercedes  Cc: Curley McLain <126die...@gmail.com> 
Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: when your crooked auctioneer wants to steal your $2
  million car... I consigned a bunch o stuff to an auctioneer.   I asked what 
assurance I had that i'd receive the proceeds less commission.  He has one of 
the big companies who come to the site to auction stores, industrial equip, 
etc., so out of state. He gave me this schpeil about how he was bound by law 
and honor etc, to pay me and that there were dire consequences for an 
auctioneer who did not pay the owner, Blah blah.   The stuff brought some 
amount.   Less commission, I was owed over 18k.  Every time I asked about 
payment for the first couple of weeks, it was "waiting for settlement."    
After 2 weeks, nobody was available to talk.   Then they quit answering my 
calls at all.   I ended up with nothing.  Popos weren't interested, feds said 
it was "inconsequential amount" etc.Auctioneers are only one step above 
lawyers.   But all the others I dealt with were not going to steal everything.  
Yes, they have all kinds of tricks that always work to their favor, but most 
are not outright thieves.  Some of their tricks work to the seller's benefit. 
Seller's benefit is also to the benefit of the auctioneer.   I liked the BBC 
series, "the Irish RM" where one character was "Larry the Liar" the 
auctioneer.Beware!> Mitch Haley via Mercedes <mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com>> 
December 31, 2019 at 1:35 PM> When the big auctions houses are willing to be 
openly crooked and > refuse to take bids on your high dollar car, BringATrailer 
starts > looking pretty good...>> 
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Re: [MBZ] OT: when your crooked auctioneer wants to steal your $2 million car...

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

Not for that kind of money. Here the limit is $2500.

-D


> On Dec 31, 2019, at 3:47 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Small claims court helps resolve these kind of cases, I have been told.
> 
> On Tue, Dec 31, 2019, 3:37 PM Curley McLain via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> 
>> I consigned a bunch o stuff to an auctioneer.   I asked what assurance I
>> had that i'd receive the proceeds less commission.  He has one of the
>> big companies who come to the site to auction stores, industrial equip,
>> etc., so out of state. He gave me this schpeil about how he was bound by
>> law and honor etc, to pay me and that there were dire consequences for
>> an auctioneer who did not pay the owner, Blah blah.   The stuff brought
>> some amount.   Less commission, I was owed over 18k.  Every time I asked
>> about payment for the first couple of weeks, it was "waiting for
>> settlement."After 2 weeks, nobody was available to talk.   Then they
>> quit answering my calls at all.   I ended up with nothing.  Popos
>> weren't interested, feds said it was "inconsequential amount" etc.
>> 
>> Auctioneers are only one step above lawyers.   But all the others I
>> dealt with were not going to steal everything.  Yes, they have all kinds
>> of tricks that always work to their favor, but most are not outright
>> thieves.  Some of their tricks work to the seller's benefit. Seller's
>> benefit is also to the benefit of the auctioneer.   I liked the BBC
>> series, "the Irish RM" where one character was "Larry the Liar" the
>> auctioneer.
>> 
>> Beware!
>>> Mitch Haley via Mercedes 
>>> December 31, 2019 at 1:35 PM
>>> When the big auctions houses are willing to be openly crooked and
>>> refuse to take bids on your high dollar car, BringATrailer starts
>>> looking pretty good...
>>> 
>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1k3c6W7rXmA=450
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Re: [MBZ] OT: when your crooked auctioneer wants to steal your $2 million car...

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

Small claims court helps resolve these kind of cases, I have been told.

On Tue, Dec 31, 2019, 3:37 PM Curley McLain via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> I consigned a bunch o stuff to an auctioneer.   I asked what assurance I
> had that i'd receive the proceeds less commission.  He has one of the
> big companies who come to the site to auction stores, industrial equip,
> etc., so out of state. He gave me this schpeil about how he was bound by
> law and honor etc, to pay me and that there were dire consequences for
> an auctioneer who did not pay the owner, Blah blah.   The stuff brought
> some amount.   Less commission, I was owed over 18k.  Every time I asked
> about payment for the first couple of weeks, it was "waiting for
> settlement."After 2 weeks, nobody was available to talk.   Then they
> quit answering my calls at all.   I ended up with nothing.  Popos
> weren't interested, feds said it was "inconsequential amount" etc.
>
> Auctioneers are only one step above lawyers.   But all the others I
> dealt with were not going to steal everything.  Yes, they have all kinds
> of tricks that always work to their favor, but most are not outright
> thieves.  Some of their tricks work to the seller's benefit. Seller's
> benefit is also to the benefit of the auctioneer.   I liked the BBC
> series, "the Irish RM" where one character was "Larry the Liar" the
> auctioneer.
>
> Beware!
> > Mitch Haley via Mercedes 
> > December 31, 2019 at 1:35 PM
> > When the big auctions houses are willing to be openly crooked and
> > refuse to take bids on your high dollar car, BringATrailer starts
> > looking pretty good...
> >
> > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1k3c6W7rXmA=450
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Re: [MBZ] OT: when your crooked auctioneer wants to steal your $2 million car...

[Curley McLain via Mercedes]

I consigned a bunch o stuff to an auctioneer.   I asked what assurance I 
had that i'd receive the proceeds less commission.  He has one of the 
big companies who come to the site to auction stores, industrial equip, 
etc., so out of state. He gave me this schpeil about how he was bound by 
law and honor etc, to pay me and that there were dire consequences for 
an auctioneer who did not pay the owner, Blah blah.   The stuff brought 
some amount.   Less commission, I was owed over 18k.  Every time I asked 
about payment for the first couple of weeks, it was "waiting for 
settlement."    After 2 weeks, nobody was available to talk.   Then they 
quit answering my calls at all.   I ended up with nothing.  Popos 
weren't interested, feds said it was "inconsequential amount" etc.


Auctioneers are only one step above lawyers.   But all the others I 
dealt with were not going to steal everything.  Yes, they have all kinds 
of tricks that always work to their favor, but most are not outright 
thieves.  Some of their tricks work to the seller's benefit. Seller's 
benefit is also to the benefit of the auctioneer.   I liked the BBC 
series, "the Irish RM" where one character was "Larry the Liar" the 
auctioneer.


Beware!

Mitch Haley via Mercedes 
December 31, 2019 at 1:35 PM
When the big auctions houses are willing to be openly crooked and 
refuse to take bids on your high dollar car, BringATrailer starts 
looking pretty good...


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1k3c6W7rXmA=450


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[MBZ] OT: when your crooked auctioneer wants to steal your $2 million car...

[Mitch Haley via Mercedes]

When the big auctions houses are willing to be openly crooked and refuse to 
take bids on your high dollar car, BringATrailer starts looking pretty good...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1k3c6W7rXmA=450

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