Re: [MBZ] OT:illegal Yellow jacket nest in the roof soffit

2014-07-02 Thread Andrew Strasfogel
Mine are (so far) too docile and/or interested in foraging, whatever that
means.

Nonetheles, since these neighbors have set up camp above the deck near a
frequently used back door, I decided to hire a grown-up to dislodge
them.  I have few positive memories of those times when I disturbed yellow
jacket or hornet nests...


On Tue, Jul 1, 2014 at 8:57 PM, OK Don okd...@gmail.com wrote:

 Excellent! We need to collect them and drop them over the ISIS fighters ---


 On Tue, Jul 1, 2014 at 12:34 PM, Greg Fiorentino gf...@dslnorthwest.net
 wrote:

  Here's a good use for them:
 
 
 
 http://www.ibtimes.co.uk/nigeria-boko-haram-members-being-killed-by-mystical
  -bees-mysterious-snakes-possessed-by-ghosts-1454407
 
  or, if that link is messed up in transmission:
 
  http://tinyurl.com/lb9vy9x
 
  Greg
 
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  henifay wrote:
   End of the day if you're happy to coexist with nasty bite bite
  creatures...
 
  I try not to coexist with bite bite, but... in theory, they have place...
  someplace here on this terrestrial.  Similar to waste, pest
  (perhaps) can be conceived as resource out of place.  The smart might be
  challenged, but... perhaps smarts can figure how to make this
  *pest* a resource.  I ain't that smart, but it seems a plausible
 objective?
  Others on the planet live with bite bite and the purpose they serve might
  not be that bad - just stay away from bite bite.
  mao
 
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Re: [MBZ] OT:illegal Yellow jacket nest in the roof soffit

2014-07-02 Thread Mountain Man
Andrew wrote:
 ...I have few positive memories of those times when I disturbed yellow
 jacket or hornet nests...

Too true.
How about honey bee?
If you mess with them, the can bite bite also.
But we *love* their honey.
What do yellowjackets produce? ...I wonder...
mao

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Re: [MBZ] OT:illegal Yellow jacket nest in the roof soffit

2014-07-02 Thread Andrew Strasfogel
From Mother Earth News:

Most of us view yellow jackets as major pests. However, some of the
species help us by feeding on aphids, caterpillars and other garden pests,
while the rest play a beneficial role as nature's cleanup squad. We'd
probably be neck-deep in dead meat without their help. Still, it is hard to
be grateful to these critters when they are commandeering your forkful of
grilled chicken or delivering a painful sting. And unlike honeybees, these
yellow-and-black wasp relatives can sting repeatedly. That sting, plus
their meat and sweet diet, can add a certain element of tension to fruit
picking and fine dining in the out-of-doors.

Read more:
http://www.motherearthnews.com/organic-gardening/yellow-jackets-zmaz03amzgoe.aspx#ixzz36LUjKtzA


On Wed, Jul 2, 2014 at 4:29 PM, Mountain Man maontin@gmail.com wrote:

 Andrew wrote:
  ...I have few positive memories of those times when I disturbed yellow
  jacket or hornet nests...

 Too true.
 How about honey bee?
 If you mess with them, the can bite bite also.
 But we *love* their honey.
 What do yellowjackets produce? ...I wonder...
 mao

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Re: [MBZ] OT:illegal Yellow jacket nest in the roof soffit

2014-07-02 Thread Mountain Man
Andrew wrote:
 ...some of the
 species help us by feeding on aphids, caterpillars and other garden pests,
 while the rest play a beneficial role as nature's cleanup squad.


Nice.
Maybe your cleanup squad will help you develop:
...neck-deep in dead meat...
mao

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Re: [MBZ] OT:illegal Yellow jacket nest in the roof soffit

2014-07-02 Thread WILTON

More yellowjackets.  ;)

Wilton

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Andrew wrote:

...I have few positive memories of those times when I disturbed yellow
jacket or hornet nests...


Too true.
How about honey bee?
If you mess with them, the can bite bite also.
But we *love* their honey.
What do yellowjackets produce? ...I wonder...
mao

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Re: [MBZ] OT:illegal Yellow jacket nest in the roof soffit

2014-07-01 Thread Greg Fiorentino
Here's a good use for them:

http://www.ibtimes.co.uk/nigeria-boko-haram-members-being-killed-by-mystical
-bees-mysterious-snakes-possessed-by-ghosts-1454407

or, if that link is messed up in transmission:

http://tinyurl.com/lb9vy9x

Greg

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Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT:illegal Yellow jacket nest in the roof soffit

henifay wrote:
 End of the day if you're happy to coexist with nasty bite bite
creatures...

I try not to coexist with bite bite, but... in theory, they have place...
someplace here on this terrestrial.  Similar to waste, pest
(perhaps) can be conceived as resource out of place.  The smart might be
challenged, but... perhaps smarts can figure how to make this
*pest* a resource.  I ain't that smart, but it seems a plausible objective?
Others on the planet live with bite bite and the purpose they serve might
not be that bad - just stay away from bite bite.
mao

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Re: [MBZ] OT:illegal Yellow jacket nest in the roof soffit

2014-07-01 Thread Mountain Man
Greg wrote:
 Here's a good use for them:

Great!!! - thanks.
Just what I need for my boko haram neighbors who are more pesky than
yellowjackets.
...I don't got no neighbors...
Everyone drives by too fast to infest them with yellowjackets.
mao

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Re: [MBZ] OT:illegal Yellow jacket nest in the roof soffit

2014-07-01 Thread OK Don
Excellent! We need to collect them and drop them over the ISIS fighters ---


On Tue, Jul 1, 2014 at 12:34 PM, Greg Fiorentino gf...@dslnorthwest.net
wrote:

 Here's a good use for them:


 http://www.ibtimes.co.uk/nigeria-boko-haram-members-being-killed-by-mystical
 -bees-mysterious-snakes-possessed-by-ghosts-1454407

 or, if that link is messed up in transmission:

 http://tinyurl.com/lb9vy9x

 Greg

 -Original Message-
 From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of
 Mountain
 Man
 Sent: Monday, June 30, 2014 5:47 PM
 To: Mercedes Discussion List
 Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT:illegal Yellow jacket nest in the roof soffit

 henifay wrote:
  End of the day if you're happy to coexist with nasty bite bite
 creatures...

 I try not to coexist with bite bite, but... in theory, they have place...
 someplace here on this terrestrial.  Similar to waste, pest
 (perhaps) can be conceived as resource out of place.  The smart might be
 challenged, but... perhaps smarts can figure how to make this
 *pest* a resource.  I ain't that smart, but it seems a plausible objective?
 Others on the planet live with bite bite and the purpose they serve might
 not be that bad - just stay away from bite bite.
 mao

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Re: [MBZ] OT:illegal Yellow jacket nest in the roof soffit

2014-06-30 Thread Mountain Man
henifay wrote:
 End of the day if you're happy to coexist with nasty bite bite creatures...

I try not to coexist with bite bite, but... in theory, they have
place... someplace here on this terrestrial.  Similar to waste, pest
(perhaps) can be conceived as resource out of place.  The smart might
be challenged, but... perhaps smarts can figure how to make this
*pest* a resource.  I ain't that smart, but it seems a plausible
objective?  Others on the planet live with bite bite and the purpose
they serve might not be that bad - just stay away from bite bite.
mao

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Re: [MBZ] OT:illegal Yellow jacket nest in the roof soffit

2014-06-30 Thread Andrew Strasfogel
Yeah, my thoughts exactly. They forage all day for what?


On Mon, Jun 30, 2014 at 8:47 PM, Mountain Man maontin@gmail.com wrote:

 henifay wrote:
  End of the day if you're happy to coexist with nasty bite bite
 creatures...

 I try not to coexist with bite bite, but... in theory, they have
 place... someplace here on this terrestrial.  Similar to waste, pest
 (perhaps) can be conceived as resource out of place.  The smart might
 be challenged, but... perhaps smarts can figure how to make this
 *pest* a resource.  I ain't that smart, but it seems a plausible
 objective?  Others on the planet live with bite bite and the purpose
 they serve might not be that bad - just stay away from bite bite.
 mao

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Re: [MBZ] OT:illegal Yellow jacket nest in the roof soffit

2014-06-29 Thread Hendrik and Fay
Depends on which species, the European wasps are not native to the US or 
Oz and as such are a pest/illegal immigrant.
The reason they are there is that they find a nice hollow space and take 
up residence, kinda like squatters.
End of the day if you're happy to coexist with nasty bite bite 
creatures, fine but some people don't like the idea.
Like you said 'most creatures' but there are some that have no place, 
like the cane toad in parts of Oz, or rabbits or foxes in Oz.


Hendrik
who does not have cane toads where he lives

On 30/06/14 10:24, Mountain Man wrote:

Andrew wrote:

A nest of yellow jackets has appeared near the back door, under the eaves
through a small hole in the soffit.

*Why* are the yellow jackets there?
If we solve this issue, we might not need to explore war and
eradication of a potentially pertinent element of the diversity in our
planet?
...not meant entirely... but there is some sense in the usefulness of
most creatures.  i.e. they are out of place and you need to understand
why they are out of place so you don't foster another hive.  Anyone?
mao


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