Re: [MBZ] OT-Standalone hard drive

2008-04-30 Thread Redghost
I got a cheap chinese external case on ebay for $10 and dropped a 80  
gig ATA laptop drive in it.  It is USB 2.0 and needs two ports to  
supply power as well as data.  Works just fine.  Seems a bit  
expensive for that wallyworld drive and I have no idea what the OS is  
for.

clay




On 30 Apr 2008, at 03:06, archer wrote:

> A major hard drive mfg is selling a standalone unit that supposedly  
> works
> like an internal hard drive complete with its own OS.  It requires  
> two USB
> jacks and cords, it's fairly small and compact, has (160 gig  
> capacity?),
> sells for about $150, and seems to be targetted at travelers.  I  
> noticed
> them at Walmart.  Anyone tried them yet?
> Thanks,
> Gerry
>

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Re: [MBZ] OT-Standalone hard drive

2008-04-30 Thread Peter Frederick
Many drive cases use a two-tailed plug -- USB ports are limited to  
500mA, and you may need more, hence the two plugs for 1A.

Peter


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Re: [MBZ] OT-Standalone hard drive

2008-04-30 Thread archer
>> archer wrote:
>> > A major hard drive mfg is selling a standalone unit that supposedly
>> works
>> > like an internal hard drive complete with its own OS.  It requires two
>> USB
>> > jacks and cords, it's fairly small and compact, has (160 gig 
>> > capacity?),
>> > sells for about $150, and seems to be targetted at travelers.  I 
>> > noticed
>> > them at Walmart.  Anyone tried them yet?
--
>> Sounds vaguely like a Network Area Storage (NAS).  Do you have brand or 
>> model numbers?
>> John
-- 
> I would have said NAS as well, but it requires two USB connections to the
> computer? That doesn't sound quite right. Unless this "OS" the drive is
> running is using the USB as a paired send and receive. Seen some Cisco 
> gear
> that would take several varied connections, 56K, ISDN, Frac T and then
> combine them up to increase the overall speed. That could be an 
> interesting
> item if they have some how bound two USB controllers together to increase
> the throughput to the system.
>
> I agree, want Manufacturer and Model Numbers, need to do some research.
> EdB

The instructions said the second cable was needed only if an OS was 
installed and it was used like an internal harddrive.
I just now checked Seagates and Walmarts websites.  Neither listed that hard 
drive.  Seagate may be test marketing it in out-of-the-way Walmarts like the 
ones out here in the backwoods.
Gerry 


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Re: [MBZ] OT-Standalone hard drive

2008-04-30 Thread archer


From: "John Robbins" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Mercedes Discussion List" 
Sent: Wednesday, April 30, 2008 9:49 AM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT-Standalone hard drive


> archer wrote:
>> A major hard drive mfg is selling a standalone unit that supposedly works
>> like an internal hard drive complete with its own OS.  It requires two 
>> USB
>> jacks and cords, it's fairly small and compact, has (160 gig capacity?),
>> sells for about $150, and seems to be targetted at travelers.  I noticed
>> them at Walmart.  Anyone tried them yet?

> Sounds vaguely like a Network Area Storage (NAS).  Do you have brand or
> model numbers?
> John
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I just stopped and read the box at Walmart, John.  Believe it was a Seagate.
Gerry 


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Re: [MBZ] OT-Standalone hard drive

2008-04-30 Thread Peter Frederick
Yup.  Flash drives with a stripped down OS running minimal versions of common 
buisness software.  Don't know the utility of the software as it will not run 
on a Mac, but flash drives are great, I have a couple and use them to transfer 
things like software updates and other large files between my computers.  I 
don't know what the max size is these days, but 16 GB ones are reasonable (less 
that $50 retail), larger ones are probably more.

Peter


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Re: [MBZ] OT-Standalone hard drive

2008-04-30 Thread John Robbins
Ed Booher wrote:
> I would have said NAS as well, but it requires two USB connections to the
> computer? That doesn't sound quite right. Unless this "OS" the drive is
> running is using the USB as a paired send and receive. Seen some Cisco gear
> that would take several varied connections, 56K, ISDN, Frac T and then
> combine them up to increase the overall speed. That could be an interesting
> item if they have some how bound two USB controllers together to increase
> the throughput to the system.

Maybe the two USB connections are for hooking up additional external 
hard drives?

Also, a friend recently bought a 2.5" based external harddrive, and it 
has lots of built-in tools and functionality on the hard drive (like 
those stupid U3 flash drives).  It would install a CD-ROM drive and use 
the autostart facility in windows to launch their toolset.  You could 
also access the HDD traditionally...  Since it was based on a 2.5" 
laptop hard drive, it only requires 1 amp at 5V to run.  The USB spec 
gives a max of 500mA per USB port, so the provided cable has one USB 
connection to the computer and a "dummy" branch off of that cable to get 
the other 500mA off the second port (only the VCC and ground pins are 
hooked up, no data lines).  Usually you don't need to do that though.

Now that I've remembered all that... the second is probably what it is. 
  Is it a Maxtor unit?  It was from Wal-mart and thats what he purchsed.

Gerry, its junk IMO, and I would just get a normal external hard drive.

John


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Re: [MBZ] OT-Standalone hard drive

2008-04-30 Thread Ed Booher
On Wed, Apr 30, 2008 at 9:49 AM, John Robbins <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> archer wrote:
> > A major hard drive mfg is selling a standalone unit that supposedly
> works
> > like an internal hard drive complete with its own OS.  It requires two
> USB
> > jacks and cords, it's fairly small and compact, has (160 gig capacity?),
> > sells for about $150, and seems to be targetted at travelers.  I noticed
> > them at Walmart.  Anyone tried them yet?
>
> Sounds vaguely like a Network Area Storage (NAS).  Do you have brand or
> model numbers?
>
> John


I would have said NAS as well, but it requires two USB connections to the
computer? That doesn't sound quite right. Unless this "OS" the drive is
running is using the USB as a paired send and receive. Seen some Cisco gear
that would take several varied connections, 56K, ISDN, Frac T and then
combine them up to increase the overall speed. That could be an interesting
item if they have some how bound two USB controllers together to increase
the throughput to the system.

I agree, want Manufacturer and Model Numbers, need to do some research.

EdB

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Re: [MBZ] OT-Standalone hard drive

2008-04-30 Thread John Robbins
archer wrote:
> A major hard drive mfg is selling a standalone unit that supposedly works 
> like an internal hard drive complete with its own OS.  It requires two USB 
> jacks and cords, it's fairly small and compact, has (160 gig capacity?), 
> sells for about $150, and seems to be targetted at travelers.  I noticed 
> them at Walmart.  Anyone tried them yet?

Sounds vaguely like a Network Area Storage (NAS).  Do you have brand or 
model numbers?

John


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[MBZ] OT-Standalone hard drive

2008-04-30 Thread archer
A major hard drive mfg is selling a standalone unit that supposedly works 
like an internal hard drive complete with its own OS.  It requires two USB 
jacks and cords, it's fairly small and compact, has (160 gig capacity?), 
sells for about $150, and seems to be targetted at travelers.  I noticed 
them at Walmart.  Anyone tried them yet?
Thanks,
Gerry 


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