Re: [MBZ] OT - An Old Coupe
Yup - our 220D had that rubber foot pump. The outlet connector broke and soaked my foot one time. They still sold replacements at that time. On Fri, Apr 28, 2023 at 7:08 PM dan penoff.com via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > Or the ones in the older MBs that had the foot pump for the window washer… > > -D > > > On Apr 28, 2023, at 5:05 PM, Allan Streib via Mercedes < > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > > > > On Fri, Apr 28, 2023, at 20:01, Jim Cathey via Mercedes wrote: > > > >> > >> You do know about the 'high' speed setting where it cuts the travel in > >> half? Pretty critical > >> during passing maneuvers. I think the auxiliary electric vacuum pump > >> idea is the best fix. > > > > Sounds only slightly better than the VW window washer that ran off > pressure from the spare tire. Better hope you didn’t have a flat on a grimy > winter day. > > > > ___ > > http://www.okiebenz.com > > > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > -- OK Don "Quality of life is inversely proportional to the amount of clothing you are wearing." "Whenever you find yourself on the side of the majority, it is time to pause and reflect." Mark Twain “Basic research is what I’m doing when I don’t know what I am doing.” Werner Von Braun "In science if you know what you are doing you should not be doing it. In engineering if you do not know what you are doing you should not be doing it." -- Richard W. Hamming, The Art of Doing Science and Engineering 2013 F150, 18 mpg 2017 Subaru Legacy, 30 mpg 1957 C182A, 12 mpg - but at 150 mph! ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT - An Old Coupe
Or the ones in the older MBs that had the foot pump for the window washer… -D > On Apr 28, 2023, at 5:05 PM, Allan Streib via Mercedes > wrote: > > On Fri, Apr 28, 2023, at 20:01, Jim Cathey via Mercedes wrote: > >> >> You do know about the 'high' speed setting where it cuts the travel in >> half? Pretty critical >> during passing maneuvers. I think the auxiliary electric vacuum pump >> idea is the best fix. > > Sounds only slightly better than the VW window washer that ran off pressure > from the spare tire. Better hope you didn’t have a flat on a grimy winter day. > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT - An Old Coupe
On Fri, Apr 28, 2023, at 20:01, Jim Cathey via Mercedes wrote: > > You do know about the 'high' speed setting where it cuts the travel in > half? Pretty critical > during passing maneuvers. I think the auxiliary electric vacuum pump > idea is the best fix. Sounds only slightly better than the VW window washer that ran off pressure from the spare tire. Better hope you didn’t have a flat on a grimy winter day. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT - An Old Coupe
> Ah, vacuum wipers. My ‘62 Falcon ... commenced passing with my wipers barely > moving. You do know about the 'high' speed setting where it cuts the travel in half? Pretty critical during passing maneuvers. I think the auxiliary electric vacuum pump idea is the best fix. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT - An Old Coupe
Ah, vacuum wipers. My ‘62 Falcon had them as well. We were driving up north in AZ, winter of ‘83 I think, following a mid ‘40s bus of some sort that had been backyard converted to an RV. This monstrosity was putting along up the mountain belching out oily smelling diesel fumes as it was snowing/sleeting like mad. I was doing the crazy vacuum wiper dance where you let up off the foot feed to get a couple of good, aggressive wipes in, then mash on the foot feed to stay caught up. Being familiar with the highway, I knew a chance to pass the bus was coming up. I positioned myself and, seeing no oncoming vehicles, I downshifted to second and spun up all 170 cu in and commenced passing with my wipers barely moving. Half way around the RV it was time to shift to third. Letting up off the gas to shift allowed the wipers to come to life revealing an elk starting to cross the highway from my left. I shouted several salty phrases as I braced for impact, but the only impact was his massive snout wracking my side mirror. Upon finishing overtaking the bus, I looked over at SWMBO and was glaring at me giving me that look all you married guys know. She reached over, turned down the tube AM radio, and informed me she is never riding in this car again. After that trip she never did. The next week I bought my first manual 240D. AZBob Sent from my iPhone > On Apr 28, 2023, at 4:18 PM, OK Don via Mercedes > wrote: > > My 1951 VW bug had vacuum wipers - I found an electric 6v vacuum pump that > solved all the wiper issues. > > On Fri, Apr 28, 2023 at 11:26 AM Jim Cathey via Mercedes < > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > >>> These old cars had vacuum operated wipers and would slow down on hills >> etc. In this case the wipers just quit working at all. >> >> My 1960 Falcon has this system. They work well enough, but not when you >> floor it for passing. >> This car has a double-headed fuel pump. The same rubber diaphragm pumps >> fuel on one side >> and air on the other. (As a booster for manifold vacuum.) It is likely >> that the booster stopped >> working correctly. Probably a check valve stopped sealing correctly. If >> the diaphragm had split >> they'd have had worse problems. >> >> Or maybe a hose came loose, or the drive cable from the knob (?) to the >> vacuum motor came off? >> The system is simple, and while it doesn't work particularly well it's >> difficult to see how it would >> fail to work at all, unless the cause were simple. >> >> The very best supplement for this system is Rain-X. >> >> -- Jim >> >> >> ___ >> http://www.okiebenz.com >> >> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >> >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >> >> > > -- > OK Don > > "Quality of life is inversely proportional to the amount of clothing you > are wearing." > > "Whenever you find yourself on the side of the majority, it is time to > pause and reflect." Mark Twain > > “Basic research is what I’m doing when I don’t know what I am doing.” Werner > Von Braun > > "In science if you know what you are doing you should not be doing it. > In engineering if you do not know what you are doing you should not be > doing it." >-- Richard W. Hamming, The Art of Doing Science and Engineering > 2013 F150, 18 mpg > 2017 Subaru Legacy, 30 mpg > 1957 C182A, 12 mpg - but at 150 mph! > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT - An Old Coupe
My 1951 VW bug had vacuum wipers - I found an electric 6v vacuum pump that solved all the wiper issues. On Fri, Apr 28, 2023 at 11:26 AM Jim Cathey via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > > These old cars had vacuum operated wipers and would slow down on hills > etc. In this case the wipers just quit working at all. > > My 1960 Falcon has this system. They work well enough, but not when you > floor it for passing. > This car has a double-headed fuel pump. The same rubber diaphragm pumps > fuel on one side > and air on the other. (As a booster for manifold vacuum.) It is likely > that the booster stopped > working correctly. Probably a check valve stopped sealing correctly. If > the diaphragm had split > they'd have had worse problems. > > Or maybe a hose came loose, or the drive cable from the knob (?) to the > vacuum motor came off? > The system is simple, and while it doesn't work particularly well it's > difficult to see how it would > fail to work at all, unless the cause were simple. > > The very best supplement for this system is Rain-X. > > -- Jim > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > -- OK Don "Quality of life is inversely proportional to the amount of clothing you are wearing." "Whenever you find yourself on the side of the majority, it is time to pause and reflect." Mark Twain “Basic research is what I’m doing when I don’t know what I am doing.” Werner Von Braun "In science if you know what you are doing you should not be doing it. In engineering if you do not know what you are doing you should not be doing it." -- Richard W. Hamming, The Art of Doing Science and Engineering 2013 F150, 18 mpg 2017 Subaru Legacy, 30 mpg 1957 C182A, 12 mpg - but at 150 mph! ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT - An Old Coupe
> These old cars had vacuum operated wipers and would slow down on hills etc. > In this case the wipers just quit working at all. My 1960 Falcon has this system. They work well enough, but not when you floor it for passing. This car has a double-headed fuel pump. The same rubber diaphragm pumps fuel on one side and air on the other. (As a booster for manifold vacuum.) It is likely that the booster stopped working correctly. Probably a check valve stopped sealing correctly. If the diaphragm had split they'd have had worse problems. Or maybe a hose came loose, or the drive cable from the knob (?) to the vacuum motor came off? The system is simple, and while it doesn't work particularly well it's difficult to see how it would fail to work at all, unless the cause were simple. The very best supplement for this system is Rain-X. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT - An Old Coupe
I skimmed over the ad copy -- yeah a flat head Ford V8 will have all kinds of options for parts and upgrades. No fears there. I'd probably also convert the electrical system to 12V and put in an alternator. That will save you a few HP and give you a lot of options for radios, improved lights, etc. There is something to be said for keeping it all original if it's a show car but if you're going to drive it there are practical matters to consider. On Thu, Apr 27, 2023, at 15:46, Randy Bennell via Mercedes wrote: > Don't recall the exact details but a mechanic that my son used to work > with had a hot rod with a flat head Ford V8. They put in on the dyno at > the shop and he was making more than 200 HP. I think factory horsepower > was originally 65 and by about 1950 they were up to about 100 HP. > > Randy > > > On 27/04/2023 3:38 PM, Allan Streib via Mercedes wrote: >> Pretty cool, no idea what they are worth but seems expensive for something >> that doesn't run. >> >> Photos look old also, almost looks like scanned photographic prints or >> slides. No interior views. >> >> Should be easy enough to work on, engine and transmission has got to be dead >> simple and I bet parts are still obtainable. Get it running, maybe put in an >> AC system from Vintage Air, and you have a nice cruiser. >> >> >> On Thu, Apr 27, 2023, at 15:14, dan penoff.com via Mercedes wrote: >>> Now this is a car I would love to have: >>> >>> https://tampa.craigslist.org/pnl/cto/d/ozona-1946-ford-coupe/7615059157.html >>> >>> -D >>> ___ > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT - An Old Coupe
The ad says it has always been kept in a climate controlled garage. If that is true, it should be OK. Randy On 27/04/2023 3:43 PM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes wrote: Exactly. And yes, I noticed that the pictures are dated. Based on the description, they must be at least four years old, as they said that Dad passed that long ago. I hate it when people don’t use current photos, and it’s something I always ask about unless it’s obvious, as I’ve been disappointed more than once with ads that had nice photos but they were taken some time ago and the reality is the car is very different as far as condition. -D On Apr 27, 2023, at 1:38 PM, Allan Streib via Mercedes wrote: Pretty cool, no idea what they are worth but seems expensive for something that doesn't run. Photos look old also, almost looks like scanned photographic prints or slides. No interior views. Should be easy enough to work on, engine and transmission has got to be dead simple and I bet parts are still obtainable. Get it running, maybe put in an AC system from Vintage Air, and you have a nice cruiser. On Thu, Apr 27, 2023, at 15:14, dan penoff.com via Mercedes wrote: Now this is a car I would love to have: https://tampa.craigslist.org/pnl/cto/d/ozona-1946-ford-coupe/7615059157.html -D ___ ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT - An Old Coupe
Don't recall the exact details but a mechanic that my son used to work with had a hot rod with a flat head Ford V8. They put in on the dyno at the shop and he was making more than 200 HP. I think factory horsepower was originally 65 and by about 1950 they were up to about 100 HP. Randy On 27/04/2023 3:38 PM, Allan Streib via Mercedes wrote: Pretty cool, no idea what they are worth but seems expensive for something that doesn't run. Photos look old also, almost looks like scanned photographic prints or slides. No interior views. Should be easy enough to work on, engine and transmission has got to be dead simple and I bet parts are still obtainable. Get it running, maybe put in an AC system from Vintage Air, and you have a nice cruiser. On Thu, Apr 27, 2023, at 15:14, dan penoff.com via Mercedes wrote: Now this is a car I would love to have: https://tampa.craigslist.org/pnl/cto/d/ozona-1946-ford-coupe/7615059157.html -D ___ ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT - An Old Coupe
Exactly. And yes, I noticed that the pictures are dated. Based on the description, they must be at least four years old, as they said that Dad passed that long ago. I hate it when people don’t use current photos, and it’s something I always ask about unless it’s obvious, as I’ve been disappointed more than once with ads that had nice photos but they were taken some time ago and the reality is the car is very different as far as condition. -D > On Apr 27, 2023, at 1:38 PM, Allan Streib via Mercedes > wrote: > > Pretty cool, no idea what they are worth but seems expensive for something > that doesn't run. > > Photos look old also, almost looks like scanned photographic prints or > slides. No interior views. > > Should be easy enough to work on, engine and transmission has got to be dead > simple and I bet parts are still obtainable. Get it running, maybe put in an > AC system from Vintage Air, and you have a nice cruiser. > > > On Thu, Apr 27, 2023, at 15:14, dan penoff.com via Mercedes wrote: >> Now this is a car I would love to have: >> >> https://tampa.craigslist.org/pnl/cto/d/ozona-1946-ford-coupe/7615059157.html >> >> -D >> ___ >> http://www.okiebenz.com >> >> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >> >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT - An Old Coupe
I have a bit of a story about a car like that as well. A Realtor that I knew had a car that looked a lot like that - even that colour. I don't know if it was the same year as the one in the ad but it was certainly very similar. He and his wife went to a car show in Regina which is about 5 hours west of Winnipeg. They started home and it started to rain. These old cars had vacuum operated wipers and would slow down on hills etc. In this case the wipers just quit working at all. They needed to get home so they tied cord to the wipers and ran the cord back through the vent windows. Bob drove and Myrna pulled the cords back and forth. They kept the windshield clear enough to get home but by the time they got home, they had worn the paint off of the A pillars where the cords had slid back and forth. Randy On 27/04/2023 3:14 PM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes wrote: Now this is a car I would love to have: https://tampa.craigslist.org/pnl/cto/d/ozona-1946-ford-coupe/7615059157.html -D ___ ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT - An Old Coupe
Pretty cool, no idea what they are worth but seems expensive for something that doesn't run. Photos look old also, almost looks like scanned photographic prints or slides. No interior views. Should be easy enough to work on, engine and transmission has got to be dead simple and I bet parts are still obtainable. Get it running, maybe put in an AC system from Vintage Air, and you have a nice cruiser. On Thu, Apr 27, 2023, at 15:14, dan penoff.com via Mercedes wrote: > Now this is a car I would love to have: > > https://tampa.craigslist.org/pnl/cto/d/ozona-1946-ford-coupe/7615059157.html > > -D > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT - An Old Coupe
I like it but I wouldn't really want to own it. There are many things like that. I enjoy seeing them but I wouldn't really want to own them unless I was wealthy enough to build a collection like Jay Leno. Another example is a Corvette. I have always liked the way they look but they are too impractical for the most part. I am happy with my 4 door pickup truck for the most part and I have the old MB for a hobby car. Randy On 27/04/2023 3:14 PM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes wrote: Now this is a car I would love to have: https://tampa.craigslist.org/pnl/cto/d/ozona-1946-ford-coupe/7615059157.html -D ___ ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] OT - An Old Coupe
Now this is a car I would love to have: https://tampa.craigslist.org/pnl/cto/d/ozona-1946-ford-coupe/7615059157.html -D ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
