Re: [MBZ] OT- More Vintage Stereo

2011-10-02 Thread Dan Penoff
If you mean the AL Model 9s, they are here in the Tampa area.

I can hook you up with the seller if you like. I am sure she still has them...

Dan

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On Oct 1, 2011, at 10:48 PM, Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net 
wrote:

 No, I meant where is that AL stuff you let go.
 
 --R
 
 On 10/1/11 7:38 PM, LWB250 wrote:
 Magnepans are planar speakers.  Flat mylar sheets with magnets and wires 
 glued to them, a very simplistic description.  Look like a monolith.
 
 The Soundcraftsman stuff is high end audio gear, some of the last made by 
 hand in the US of A before they went out of business.
 
 When I sold my house in Indiana my audio gear (relatively late model crap) 
 went with it.  I have decided to rebuild my audio system with vintage gear, 
 so I've been trolling CL and other places for the stuff.
 
 Dan
 
 
 
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 Sent: Saturday, October 1, 2011 7:01 PM
 Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT- More Vintage Stereo
 
 Where are these things?
 
 --R
 
 On 10/1/11 5:20 PM, Dan Penoff wrote:
 Scored a pair of Magnepan MG-IIb speakers today. Sale on eBay failed 
 because seller would not ship.
 
 Knowing what beasts these things are, I contacted the seller and offered 
 them $200 (opening bid on eBay was $250.)
 
 Had to drive over to King John's place to get them, but it was the second 
 owner and they had all the original boxes, packing, manuals, etc.
 
 Tomorrow I go to look at a Soundcraftsman setup with a 250 watt amp, 
 equalizer and tuner. The guy is a hard core audiophile with all sorts of 
 high end stuff, and is asking $365 for the lot.
 
 I am going to go and see if I can get him down to $300-$325, which is about 
 market price.
 
 Had to pass on a nice pair of Altec-Lansing Model 9s. They were just 
 professionally redone with new surrounds and are in very good condition. 
 Seller was at $225 for the pair, but got them down to $150.
 
 Unfortunately, I have limited funds and would rather have the 
 Soundcraftsman equipment...
 
 Dan
 
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[MBZ] OT- More Vintage Stereo

2011-10-01 Thread Dan Penoff
Scored a pair of Magnepan MG-IIb speakers today. Sale on eBay failed because 
seller would not ship.

Knowing what beasts these things are, I contacted the seller and offered them 
$200 (opening bid on eBay was $250.)

Had to drive over to King John's place to get them, but it was the second owner 
and they had all the original boxes, packing, manuals, etc.

Tomorrow I go to look at a Soundcraftsman setup with a 250 watt amp, equalizer 
and tuner. The guy is a hard core audiophile with all sorts of high end stuff, 
and is asking $365 for the lot. 

I am going to go and see if I can get him down to $300-$325, which is about 
market price.

Had to pass on a nice pair of Altec-Lansing Model 9s. They were just 
professionally redone with new surrounds and are in very good condition. Seller 
was at $225 for the pair, but got them down to $150.

Unfortunately, I have limited funds and would rather have the Soundcraftsman 
equipment...

Dan

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Re: [MBZ] OT- More Vintage Stereo

2011-10-01 Thread Rich Thomas

Where are these things?

--R

On 10/1/11 5:20 PM, Dan Penoff wrote:

Scored a pair of Magnepan MG-IIb speakers today. Sale on eBay failed because 
seller would not ship.

Knowing what beasts these things are, I contacted the seller and offered them 
$200 (opening bid on eBay was $250.)

Had to drive over to King John's place to get them, but it was the second owner 
and they had all the original boxes, packing, manuals, etc.

Tomorrow I go to look at a Soundcraftsman setup with a 250 watt amp, equalizer 
and tuner. The guy is a hard core audiophile with all sorts of high end stuff, 
and is asking $365 for the lot.

I am going to go and see if I can get him down to $300-$325, which is about 
market price.

Had to pass on a nice pair of Altec-Lansing Model 9s. They were just 
professionally redone with new surrounds and are in very good condition. Seller 
was at $225 for the pair, but got them down to $150.

Unfortunately, I have limited funds and would rather have the Soundcraftsman 
equipment...

Dan

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Re: [MBZ] OT- More Vintage Stereo

2011-10-01 Thread LWB250
Magnepans are planar speakers.  Flat mylar sheets with magnets and wires glued 
to them, a very simplistic description.  Look like a monolith.

The Soundcraftsman stuff is high end audio gear, some of the last made by hand 
in the US of A before they went out of business.

When I sold my house in Indiana my audio gear (relatively late model crap) went 
with it.  I have decided to rebuild my audio system with vintage gear, so I've 
been trolling CL and other places for the stuff.

Dan



From: Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net
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Sent: Saturday, October 1, 2011 7:01 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT- More Vintage Stereo

Where are these things?

--R

On 10/1/11 5:20 PM, Dan Penoff wrote:
 Scored a pair of Magnepan MG-IIb speakers today. Sale on eBay failed because 
 seller would not ship.

 Knowing what beasts these things are, I contacted the seller and offered them 
 $200 (opening bid on eBay was $250.)

 Had to drive over to King John's place to get them, but it was the second 
 owner and they had all the original boxes, packing, manuals, etc.

 Tomorrow I go to look at a Soundcraftsman setup with a 250 watt amp, 
 equalizer and tuner. The guy is a hard core audiophile with all sorts of high 
 end stuff, and is asking $365 for the lot.

 I am going to go and see if I can get him down to $300-$325, which is about 
 market price.

 Had to pass on a nice pair of Altec-Lansing Model 9s. They were just 
 professionally redone with new surrounds and are in very good condition. 
 Seller was at $225 for the pair, but got them down to $150.

 Unfortunately, I have limited funds and would rather have the Soundcraftsman 
 equipment...

 Dan

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Re: [MBZ] OT- More Vintage Stereo

2011-10-01 Thread Rich Thomas

No, I meant where is that AL stuff you let go.

--R

On 10/1/11 7:38 PM, LWB250 wrote:

Magnepans are planar speakers.  Flat mylar sheets with magnets and wires glued 
to them, a very simplistic description.  Look like a monolith.

The Soundcraftsman stuff is high end audio gear, some of the last made by hand 
in the US of A before they went out of business.

When I sold my house in Indiana my audio gear (relatively late model crap) went 
with it.  I have decided to rebuild my audio system with vintage gear, so I've 
been trolling CL and other places for the stuff.

Dan



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Sent: Saturday, October 1, 2011 7:01 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT- More Vintage Stereo

Where are these things?

--R

On 10/1/11 5:20 PM, Dan Penoff wrote:

Scored a pair of Magnepan MG-IIb speakers today. Sale on eBay failed because 
seller would not ship.

Knowing what beasts these things are, I contacted the seller and offered them 
$200 (opening bid on eBay was $250.)

Had to drive over to King John's place to get them, but it was the second owner 
and they had all the original boxes, packing, manuals, etc.

Tomorrow I go to look at a Soundcraftsman setup with a 250 watt amp, equalizer 
and tuner. The guy is a hard core audiophile with all sorts of high end stuff, 
and is asking $365 for the lot.

I am going to go and see if I can get him down to $300-$325, which is about 
market price.

Had to pass on a nice pair of Altec-Lansing Model 9s. They were just 
professionally redone with new surrounds and are in very good condition. Seller 
was at $225 for the pair, but got them down to $150.

Unfortunately, I have limited funds and would rather have the Soundcraftsman 
equipment...

Dan

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[MBZ] OT - More Vintage Stereo

2011-09-28 Thread Dan Penoff
Saw a pair of Altec Lansing model 9s on the local CL today. Seller wants $225, 
will probably come down a little.

Cabinets are very good, had surrounds professionally done recently.

Does this sound like a good deal?

Got a pair of Magnepan MG-II speaker s over in Orlando for $249. original owner 
with docs and boxes.

Hmmm.

Dan

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Re: [MBZ] OT - More Vintage Stereo

2011-09-28 Thread Fmiser
 Dan Penoff wrote:

 Got a pair of Magnepan MG-II speaker s over in Orlando for
 $249. original owner with docs and boxes.

Have you fired up the Fisher with the Magnepans you already have
yet?

--  Philip

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Re: [MBZ] OT - More Vintage Stereo

2011-09-28 Thread Dan Penoff
Yes, I have.

I was suitably impressed, however, it was a temporary setup in my Apartpit and 
they were more or less in the middle of the room.

Not the ideal setup, but enough for me to get a good idea of how they sounded - 
very, very nice. Imaging was amazing, although they seemed to be very 
directional, which I sort of expected.

The Fisher seemed to handle them well, but it has yet to be tuned and recapped 
for optimum operation.

I was able to score the ones in Orlando for $200.

Original owner, original boxes, paperwork, everything. These are a little 
newer, as they are the MG-2s, mine being MG-1s.

So now I have enough Magnepans for surround sound!

Dan

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On Sep 28, 2011, at 1:33 PM, Fmiser fmi...@gmail.com wrote:

 Dan Penoff wrote:
 
 Got a pair of Magnepan MG-II speaker s over in Orlando for
 $249. original owner with docs and boxes.
 
 Have you fired up the Fisher with the Magnepans you already have
 yet?
 
 --  Philip
 
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Re: [MBZ] OT - More Vintage Stereo

2011-09-28 Thread Alex Chamberlain
On Sep 28, 2011 1:46 PM, Dan Penoff lwb...@yahoo.com wrote:


 So now I have enough Magnepans for surround sound!


I know you're kidding, but there is some pretty cool audiophile stuff being
released in 5.1 these days on DVD-audio, SACD, and Blu-Ray.

For example the new Dark Side of the Moon box set includes Blu-Ray discs
with not only the 5.1 surround remix that came out on SACD a few years back
but also the quadrophonic mix from the '70s, previously available only on
impossible-to-find vinyl!

Problem is finding a decent sounding surround receiver, most are cheap
consumer home- theater crap...

Alex
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Re: [MBZ] OT - More Vintage Stereo

2011-09-28 Thread Allan Streib
Dan Penoff lwb...@yahoo.com writes:

 So now I have enough Magnepans for surround sound!

You mean quadraphonic, need to be period-correct!

-- 
1983 300D
1979 300SD

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Re: [MBZ] OT - More Vintage Stereo

2011-09-28 Thread Rich Thomas
A friend of mine in college had a quadrophonic system set up in his dorm 
room, with 4 Heil Air Motion Transformer speakers (large floor-standing 
square things about 30in tall) in each corner of the room, some sort of 
high-end turntable, and a big Pioneer quad amp/decoder pushing them.  He 
bought a bunch of vinyl quad records.  The equipment mostly filled the 
room.  When he cranked it up it was incredible, though the quad effects 
seemed mostly minimal, unlike DD5.1 etc. these days.


--R

On 9/28/11 5:12 PM, Alex Chamberlain wrote:

On Sep 28, 2011 1:46 PM, Dan Penofflwb...@yahoo.com  wrote:

So now I have enough Magnepans for surround sound!


I know you're kidding, but there is some pretty cool audiophile stuff being
released in 5.1 these days on DVD-audio, SACD, and Blu-Ray.

For example the new Dark Side of the Moon box set includes Blu-Ray discs
with not only the 5.1 surround remix that came out on SACD a few years back
but also the quadrophonic mix from the '70s, previously available only on
impossible-to-find vinyl!

Problem is finding a decent sounding surround receiver, most are cheap
consumer home- theater crap...

Alex
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Re: [MBZ] OT - More Vintage Stereo

2011-09-28 Thread LWB250
Best friend in high school's dad was a prosumer audiophile, and had a quad 
8-track setup in their family room.  Only quad 8-track we ever found was the 
Eagles, but I believe his dad had others that were less interesting genres.  I 
can recall listening to Victim of Love in quad when we skipped out for lunch 
and went to his house...

Dan




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Sent: Wednesday, September 28, 2011 5:32 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT - More Vintage Stereo

A friend of mine in college had a quadrophonic system set up in his dorm 
room, with 4 Heil Air Motion Transformer speakers (large floor-standing 
square things about 30in tall) in each corner of the room, some sort of 
high-end turntable, and a big Pioneer quad amp/decoder pushing them.  He 
bought a bunch of vinyl quad records.  The equipment mostly filled the 
room.  When he cranked it up it was incredible, though the quad effects 
seemed mostly minimal, unlike DD5.1 etc. these days.

--R

On 9/28/11 5:12 PM, Alex Chamberlain wrote:
 On Sep 28, 2011 1:46 PM, Dan Penofflwb...@yahoo.com  wrote:
 So now I have enough Magnepans for surround sound!

 I know you're kidding, but there is some pretty cool audiophile stuff being
 released in 5.1 these days on DVD-audio, SACD, and Blu-Ray.

 For example the new Dark Side of the Moon box set includes Blu-Ray discs
 with not only the 5.1 surround remix that came out on SACD a few years back
 but also the quadrophonic mix from the '70s, previously available only on
 impossible-to-find vinyl!

 Problem is finding a decent sounding surround receiver, most are cheap
 consumer home- theater crap...

 Alex
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Re: [MBZ] OT - More Vintage Stereo

2011-09-28 Thread LWB250
True.

Amazingly, I have seen a number of quad receivers of various flavors on the 
local CL.  Nothing I would ever touch, but interesting that the stuff is still 
out there.

Dan



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Sent: Wednesday, September 28, 2011 5:25 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT - More Vintage Stereo

Dan Penoff lwb...@yahoo.com writes:

 So now I have enough Magnepans for surround sound!

You mean quadraphonic, need to be period-correct!

-- 
1983 300D
1979 300SD

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Re: [MBZ] OT - More Vintage Stereo

2011-09-28 Thread LWB250
This has been the bane of my vintage search.  I want to find a fairly high 
powered (+50W) receiver, but there just hasn't been anything on the market of 
late.  All the late model SS stuff is junk, IMHO, but there just doesn't seem 
to be anything even remotely old in the market that I can find (and I'm talking 
local, as I don't want to do the eBay thing.)

Just missed a heck of a Marantz power amp the other day.  Saw the listing, but 
it was a really bizarre one, so I skipped over it.  Saw it again and realized 
what they had and called right away.  Amp was gone, but the rack mount cassette 
deck was still for sale. Yuck. And this was one of the old Marantz amps with 
the big meters and knobs on the front (rack mount, too.)

Darn.

Dan


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Sent: Wednesday, September 28, 2011 5:12 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT - More Vintage Stereo

On Sep 28, 2011 1:46 PM, Dan Penoff lwb...@yahoo.com wrote:


 So now I have enough Magnepans for surround sound!


I know you're kidding, but there is some pretty cool audiophile stuff being
released in 5.1 these days on DVD-audio, SACD, and Blu-Ray.

For example the new Dark Side of the Moon box set includes Blu-Ray discs
with not only the 5.1 surround remix that came out on SACD a few years back
but also the quadrophonic mix from the '70s, previously available only on
impossible-to-find vinyl!

Problem is finding a decent sounding surround receiver, most are cheap
consumer home- theater crap...

Alex
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