Re: [MBZ] OT - tools to work on a Mercedes or four
I'm in Canada so the place I got mine won't exist on your side. They actually did open a test store in Omaha a few years back but decided against an expansion into the US - lots of competition down there. I should think someone like Harbour Freight or Tractor Supply etc.There must be people down there who sells the bits and pieces to repair or to build your own compresor. I don't recall what it cost but it was reasonable - all things considered - as I was a bit sqeamish about working near it when it was charged up. It came with advantages and disadvantages of course. The new tank is bigger so has more capacity but takes longer to pump up and if I only need it for something small, then it is a bit of a waste to pump it all the way but one needs the pressure so no choice. I don't leave it on all of the time as despite my best efforts it still leaks a little bit somewhere and will cycle on and off even if I am not using it. I also had to clean and paint it as it came in grey primer. My compressor is an old deVilbis (sp?) so I went to the modern colors for their new compressors - orange tank and black head where the old tank was sort of an army green color. The other issue that I encountered was of course that the flange (for lack of a better word) that sits on the tank top and mounts the motor, head etc was not identical and it would have required some work to make the individual parts fit the new tank. I solved that by cutting the one off of the old tank and mounted it on top of the one on the new tank. Fairly easy with a couple of pieces of angle iron and some bolts. I could send a photo if you are interested at all. Wouldn't have minded one of the vertical tanks to reduce floor usage in the garage but it would have been even more difficult to mount the existing motor etc on top of the tank. Randy -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of OK Don Sent: Thursday, January 31, 2008 7:36 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT - tools to work on a Mercedes or four Where did you find a new tank? I'm inclined to go that way, though I might go ahead and let it come up to pressure this weekend. On Jan 31, 2008 9:59 AM, R A Bennell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: My old compressor had a date stamp on the tank of 1947. It always made me nervous too. I tried to find out how to test it or what it would cost to have it tested without much success. I remember way back when, the govt sent around a fellow who tested just by banging with a hammer and listening to the sound. I am told that the proper way is with water. One needs to be able to pressurize the tank to something way beyond normal with water. If it has any faults, it will spring a leak but not explode apparently. My ultimate solution was to buy a new tank and transplant the compressor head and motor etc to the new tank. No problems since and I am careful to bleed off accumulated water regularly. Randy ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT - tools to work on a Mercedes or four
Still might be difficult. If I understand correctly, (which I admit I might not as I am not an engineer) one needs to test at significantly higher pressure than one intends to use regularly. So if the tank will normally see 150 to 200# pressure then the test should be 250-300#. That will be somewhat difficult to produce without specialized equipment. Randy -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of OK Don Sent: Thursday, January 31, 2008 9:17 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT - tools to work on a Mercedes or four Ah -- now that's do-able! Good idea. Thanks! On Jan 31, 2008 8:50 PM, dave walton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: No, but doing a pressure test with water is much less dangerous that testing with air. A failure will split the tank rather than explode it. Fill with water and pressurize with air if need be. The less air, the better. -Dave Walton -- OK Don, KD5NRO Norman, OK There are three kinds of lies: lies, damn lies, and statistics. -Benjamin Disraeli and/or Mark Twain '90 300D, '87 300SDL, '81 240D, '78 450SLC, '97 Ply Grand Voyager ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT - tools to work on a Mercedes or four
R A Bennell wrote: So if the tank will normally see 150 to 200# pressure then the test should be 250-300#. That will be somewhat difficult to produce without specialized equipment. I've got a hand pump (like a bicycle tire pump, but cost $200) that goes to 3-4k psi. You could probably achieve the same thing by using a grease gun. Drill and tap a pipe plug for a zerk fitting, fill the tank with water, screw in the plug, and start pumping with an old grease gun full of water. I guess you'd want a pressure gauge in there too. Here's my little hyperpump, I thought they were expensive in USA, sure wouldn't want to buy one down under (and no, I'm not putting water in it under any circumstances) http://www.potfire.com.au/products/fxpump.htm Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT - tools to work on a Mercedes or four
R A Bennell [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Call me chicken but I don't want to stand close enough to the tank to pump it up like that. I know it is not supposed to blow up but if it starts squirting water out of some pinhole, I don't want to be in the way. Initially it should come out at a pretty good pressure. I think they cut things like steel and stone with high pressure water. Ever get your fingers or feet in the way of the pressure washer wand? Yeah but I think you are talking about thousands of PSI, not hundreds, for that. Pressurized tanks make me a bit nervous too. Do you all tend to bleed the air out when you're not using them? I drain the water, but leave my tank pressurized all the time. The compressor kicks on every few days to recharge it if I'm not using it. I figure this is less stress on the tank than continually decharging/recharging the tank. Allan -- 1983 300D 1966 230 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT - tools to work on a Mercedes or four
Call me chicken but I don't want to stand close enough to the tank to pump it up like that. I know it is not supposed to blow up but if it starts squirting water out of some pinhole, I don't want to be in the way. Initially it should come out at a pretty good pressure. I think they cut things like steel and stone with high pressure water. Ever get your fingers or feet in the way of the pressure washer wand? Randy -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Mitch Haley Sent: Friday, February 01, 2008 10:33 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT - tools to work on a Mercedes or four R A Bennell wrote: So if the tank will normally see 150 to 200# pressure then the test should be 250-300#. That will be somewhat difficult to produce without specialized equipment. I've got a hand pump (like a bicycle tire pump, but cost $200) that goes to 3-4k psi. You could probably achieve the same thing by using a grease gun. Drill and tap a pipe plug for a zerk fitting, fill the tank with water, screw in the plug, and start pumping with an old grease gun full of water. I guess you'd want a pressure gauge in there too. Here's my little hyperpump, I thought they were expensive in USA, sure wouldn't want to buy one down under (and no, I'm not putting water in it under any circumstances) http://www.potfire.com.au/products/fxpump.htm Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT - tools to work on a Mercedes or four
My dad has a 3/8 pneumatic impact ratchet that's done lots of work in those places where a conventional inpact (butterfly?) won't fit. It's a name brand tool although I can't remember the brand, and he got it used from a friend about 20 years ago. It is still working well, but that $9.95 HF cheapie would be a good investment for me. Kevin in Hillsboro, OR 1983 300SD 266Kmi, Ursula ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT - tools to work on a Mercedes or four
Your dad was a dentist? I come from a long line of dentists. OK Don wrote: I see that Harbor Freight has a 3/8 air ratchet on sale for $9.99. Is there a chance that it would be useful? Also --- I inherited an old (1958) air compressor from my Dad. It ran in his dental office for most of the years, and was taken care of then, but has been sitting in the barn for the last six or seven years. It runs OK, but does blow a fair amount of rust at the low pressures I've let it build up. How do I determine whether the tank is safe to get to 150 psi other than turning it one and leaving the house for the rest of the day and praying? -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 94 E420, 92 300SD, 92 300D, 92 250D Turbo, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 300D, 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 89 260E, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 84 190D, 84 300D euro manny, 81 240D, 81 380SLC, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250 http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT - tools to work on a Mercedes or four
There's something painful about reading 3/8 air ratchet and dentist in the same post... From: Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Date: Thu, 31 Jan 2008 09:38:12 -0600 To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT - tools to work on a Mercedes or four Your dad was a dentist? I come from a long line of dentists. OK Don wrote: I see that Harbor Freight has a 3/8 air ratchet on sale for $9.99. Is there a chance that it would be useful? Also --- I inherited an old (1958) air compressor from my Dad. It ran in his dental office for most of the years, and was taken care of then, but has been sitting in the barn for the last six or seven years. It runs OK, but does blow a fair amount of rust at the low pressures I've let it build up. How do I determine whether the tank is safe to get to 150 psi other than turning it one and leaving the house for the rest of the day and praying? -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 94 E420, 92 300SD, 92 300D, 92 250D Turbo, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 300D, 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 89 260E, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 84 190D, 84 300D euro manny, 81 240D, 81 380SLC, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250 http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT - tools to work on a Mercedes or four
My old compressor had a date stamp on the tank of 1947. It always made me nervous too. I tried to find out how to test it or what it would cost to have it tested without much success. I remember way back when, the govt sent around a fellow who tested just by banging with a hammer and listening to the sound. I am told that the proper way is with water. One needs to be able to pressurize the tank to something way beyond normal with water. If it has any faults, it will spring a leak but not explode apparently. My ultimate solution was to buy a new tank and transplant the compressor head and motor etc to the new tank. No problems since and I am careful to bleed off accumulated water regularly. Randy -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of OK Don Sent: Wednesday, January 30, 2008 10:23 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: [MBZ] OT - tools to work on a Mercedes or four I see that Harbor Freight has a 3/8 air ratchet on sale for $9.99. Is there a chance that it would be useful? Also --- I inherited an old (1958) air compressor from my Dad. It ran in his dental office for most of the years, and was taken care of then, but has been sitting in the barn for the last six or seven years. It runs OK, but does blow a fair amount of rust at the low pressures I've let it build up. How do I determine whether the tank is safe to get to 150 psi other than turning it one and leaving the house for the rest of the day and praying? -- OK Don, KD5NRO Norman, OK There are three kinds of lies: lies, damn lies, and statistics. -Benjamin Disraeli and/or Mark Twain '90 300D, '87 300SDL, '81 240D, '78 450SLC, '97 Ply Grand Voyager ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT - tools to work on a Mercedes or four
Where did you find a new tank? I'm inclined to go that way, though I might go ahead and let it come up to pressure this weekend. On Jan 31, 2008 9:59 AM, R A Bennell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: My old compressor had a date stamp on the tank of 1947. It always made me nervous too. I tried to find out how to test it or what it would cost to have it tested without much success. I remember way back when, the govt sent around a fellow who tested just by banging with a hammer and listening to the sound. I am told that the proper way is with water. One needs to be able to pressurize the tank to something way beyond normal with water. If it has any faults, it will spring a leak but not explode apparently. My ultimate solution was to buy a new tank and transplant the compressor head and motor etc to the new tank. No problems since and I am careful to bleed off accumulated water regularly. Randy -- OK Don, KD5NRO Norman, OK There are three kinds of lies: lies, damn lies, and statistics. -Benjamin Disraeli and/or Mark Twain '90 300D, '87 300SDL, '81 240D, '78 450SLC, '97 Ply Grand Voyager ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT - tools to work on a Mercedes or four
Hmmm -- doesn't seem strange to me - Dad would pull little kid's teeth where ever they were by pulling out a pair of ignition pliers from his pocket, and doing it right there. They were so surprised, that it was over before they could get upset. So dentist and tool don't bother me -- though I can see how might look that way to others - On Jan 31, 2008 9:42 AM, Timothy Robinson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: There's something painful about reading 3/8 air ratchet and dentist in the same post... -- OK Don, KD5NRO Norman, OK There are three kinds of lies: lies, damn lies, and statistics. -Benjamin Disraeli and/or Mark Twain '90 300D, '87 300SDL, '81 240D, '78 450SLC, '97 Ply Grand Voyager ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT - tools to work on a Mercedes or four
That's the procedure they use for testing Scuba cylinders. It's called a Hydrostatic test. Immerse the cylinder in water and measure the additional displacement when the tank is pressurized as a test of the expansion properties of the metal. Old metal becomes brittle and does not expand as easily. They over pressurize the tank in the process to see if it bursts. They pressurize with water because it contracts less under pressure so that when a tank bursts, the damage to the test rig from the sudden release of pressure is minimal. -Dave Walton On Jan 31, 2008 10:59 AM, R A Bennell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: My old compressor had a date stamp on the tank of 1947. It always made me nervous too. I tried to find out how to test it or what it would cost to have it tested without much success. I remember way back when, the govt sent around a fellow who tested just by banging with a hammer and listening to the sound. I am told that the proper way is with water. One needs to be able to pressurize the tank to something way beyond normal with water. If it has any faults, it will spring a leak but not explode apparently. My ultimate solution was to buy a new tank and transplant the compressor head and motor etc to the new tank. No problems since and I am careful to bleed off accumulated water regularly. Randy -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of OK Don Sent: Wednesday, January 30, 2008 10:23 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: [MBZ] OT - tools to work on a Mercedes or four I see that Harbor Freight has a 3/8 air ratchet on sale for $9.99. Is there a chance that it would be useful? Also --- I inherited an old (1958) air compressor from my Dad. It ran in his dental office for most of the years, and was taken care of then, but has been sitting in the barn for the last six or seven years. It runs OK, but does blow a fair amount of rust at the low pressures I've let it build up. How do I determine whether the tank is safe to get to 150 psi other than turning it one and leaving the house for the rest of the day and praying? -- OK Don, KD5NRO Norman, OK There are three kinds of lies: lies, damn lies, and statistics. -Benjamin Disraeli and/or Mark Twain '90 300D, '87 300SDL, '81 240D, '78 450SLC, '97 Ply Grand Voyager ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT - tools to work on a Mercedes or four
Doesn't sound like a home project for a relatively large tank On Jan 31, 2008 7:58 PM, dave walton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: That's the procedure they use for testing Scuba cylinders. It's called a Hydrostatic test. Immerse the cylinder in water and measure the additional displacement when the tank is pressurized as a test of the expansion properties of the metal. Old metal becomes brittle and does not expand as easily. They over pressurize the tank in the process to see if it bursts. They pressurize with water because it contracts less under pressure so that when a tank bursts, the damage to the test rig from the sudden release of pressure is minimal. -Dave Walton -- OK Don, KD5NRO Norman, OK There are three kinds of lies: lies, damn lies, and statistics. -Benjamin Disraeli and/or Mark Twain '90 300D, '87 300SDL, '81 240D, '78 450SLC, '97 Ply Grand Voyager ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT - tools to work on a Mercedes or four
The impact provides the needed torque to break the nut or bolt, then backs it out very fast. Same working action as a half inch impact wrench used at tire shops, but considerably less torque. The size makes it very easy and comfortable to use one handed. Strong enough to pull head nuts off, but not strong enough to pull lug nuts off. Mechanic friend of mine turned me on to them when I used to help him rebuild VW air cooled engines on weekend. Seriously speeds up tearing an engine down to line boar. On 1/31/08, Luther [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Butterfly impact? Is there a torque or longevity benefit or is it just a comfort thing for you? Luther On Wed, 30 Jan 2008 22:29:35 -0600, Richard Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You set it outside run it up and let it set all day. 150 psi is not going to blow anything up, but I would not want to be standing in front of the relief valve or drain plug if it blew out. As for the ratchet I have one, but I find I use my 3/8 butterfly impact a lot more than the ratchet. The only time I use the ratchet is for a long bolt that I cant get the butterfly too. The ratchet is slow, and not strong enough to break anything loose with air pressure alone. -- Luther KB5QHUAlma, Ark '87 300SDL (272,xxx mi) head case '85 Ford F250 6.9 diesel (x58,xxx mi) '82 300CD (166 kmi) '82 300D (74 kmi) getting donor engine-sold '85 300D (280,176) parts car sans engine ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- OK Richard 1987 300D 193k with miles and miles to go!!! Midwest City, Oklahoma ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT - tools to work on a Mercedes or four
No, but doing a pressure test with water is much less dangerous that testing with air. A failure will split the tank rather than explode it. Fill with water and pressurize with air if need be. The less air, the better. -Dave Walton On Jan 31, 2008 9:13 PM, OK Don [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Doesn't sound like a home project for a relatively large tank On Jan 31, 2008 7:58 PM, dave walton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: That's the procedure they use for testing Scuba cylinders. It's called a Hydrostatic test. Immerse the cylinder in water and measure the additional displacement when the tank is pressurized as a test of the expansion properties of the metal. Old metal becomes brittle and does not expand as easily. They over pressurize the tank in the process to see if it bursts. They pressurize with water because it contracts less under pressure so that when a tank bursts, the damage to the test rig from the sudden release of pressure is minimal. -Dave Walton -- OK Don, KD5NRO Norman, OK There are three kinds of lies: lies, damn lies, and statistics. -Benjamin Disraeli and/or Mark Twain '90 300D, '87 300SDL, '81 240D, '78 450SLC, '97 Ply Grand Voyager ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT - tools to work on a Mercedes or four
Ah -- now that's do-able! Good idea. Thanks! On Jan 31, 2008 8:50 PM, dave walton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: No, but doing a pressure test with water is much less dangerous that testing with air. A failure will split the tank rather than explode it. Fill with water and pressurize with air if need be. The less air, the better. -Dave Walton -- OK Don, KD5NRO Norman, OK There are three kinds of lies: lies, damn lies, and statistics. -Benjamin Disraeli and/or Mark Twain '90 300D, '87 300SDL, '81 240D, '78 450SLC, '97 Ply Grand Voyager ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] OT - tools to work on a Mercedes or four
I see that Harbor Freight has a 3/8 air ratchet on sale for $9.99. Is there a chance that it would be useful? Also --- I inherited an old (1958) air compressor from my Dad. It ran in his dental office for most of the years, and was taken care of then, but has been sitting in the barn for the last six or seven years. It runs OK, but does blow a fair amount of rust at the low pressures I've let it build up. How do I determine whether the tank is safe to get to 150 psi other than turning it one and leaving the house for the rest of the day and praying? -- OK Don, KD5NRO Norman, OK There are three kinds of lies: lies, damn lies, and statistics. -Benjamin Disraeli and/or Mark Twain '90 300D, '87 300SDL, '81 240D, '78 450SLC, '97 Ply Grand Voyager ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT - tools to work on a Mercedes or four
On Jan 30, 2008, at 11:22 PM, OK Don wrote: I see that Harbor Freight has a 3/8 air ratchet on sale for $9.99. Is there a chance that it would be useful? Useful for what? Maybe as a doorstop? A weight to hold your service manuals open? ;-) Also --- I inherited an old (1958) air compressor from my Dad. It ran in his dental office for most of the years, and was taken care of then, but has been sitting in the barn for the last six or seven years. It runs OK, but does blow a fair amount of rust at the low pressures I've let it build up. How do I determine whether the tank is safe to get to 150 psi other than turning it one and leaving the house for the rest of the day and praying? Sounds like the inside of the tank is rusted from water condensing. Anything come out of the drain valve? If the compressor is good and seems to have life I'd be inclined to replace the tank, based on this description, assuming you can find a suitable one. Allan ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT - tools to work on a Mercedes or four
You set it outside run it up and let it set all day. 150 psi is not going to blow anything up, but I would not want to be standing in front of the relief valve or drain plug if it blew out. As for the ratchet I have one, but I find I use my 3/8 butterfly impact a lot more than the ratchet. The only time I use the ratchet is for a long bolt that I cant get the butterfly too. The ratchet is slow, and not strong enough to break anything loose with air pressure alone. On 1/30/08, OK Don [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I see that Harbor Freight has a 3/8 air ratchet on sale for $9.99. Is there a chance that it would be useful? Also --- I inherited an old (1958) air compressor from my Dad. It ran in his dental office for most of the years, and was taken care of then, but has been sitting in the barn for the last six or seven years. It runs OK, but does blow a fair amount of rust at the low pressures I've let it build up. How do I determine whether the tank is safe to get to 150 psi other than turning it one and leaving the house for the rest of the day and praying? -- OK Don, KD5NRO Norman, OK There are three kinds of lies: lies, damn lies, and statistics. -Benjamin Disraeli and/or Mark Twain '90 300D, '87 300SDL, '81 240D, '78 450SLC, '97 Ply Grand Voyager ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- OK Richard 1987 300D 193k with miles and miles to go!!! Midwest City, Oklahoma ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT - tools to work on a Mercedes or four
No water came out of the drain - Sounds like the inside of the tank is rusted from water condensing. Anything come out of the drain valve? If the compressor is good and seems to have life I'd be inclined to replace the tank, based on this description, assuming you can find a suitable one. Allan -- OK Don, KD5NRO Norman, OK There are three kinds of lies: lies, damn lies, and statistics. -Benjamin Disraeli and/or Mark Twain '90 300D, '87 300SDL, '81 240D, '78 450SLC, '97 Ply Grand Voyager ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT - tools to work on a Mercedes or four
I was thinking of those longer bolts, and those times when there's a lot of them to turn. My arthritic wrists aren't what they used to be. I wouldn't expect it break anything loose, just do the repetitive work. What is a butterfly impact, and what will it do that a fly swatter won't? As for the ratchet I have one, but I find I use my 3/8 butterfly impact a lot more than the ratchet. The only time I use the ratchet is for a long bolt that I cant get the butterfly too. The ratchet is slow, and not strong enough to break anything loose with air pressure alone. -- OK Don, KD5NRO Norman, OK There are three kinds of lies: lies, damn lies, and statistics. -Benjamin Disraeli and/or Mark Twain '90 300D, '87 300SDL, '81 240D, '78 450SLC, '97 Ply Grand Voyager ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT - tools to work on a Mercedes or four
A butterfly is an impact wrench but it about the size of 2 packs of cigaretts back to back with a butterfly switch on top. You push the right side it goes clockwise, left is counter clockwise. Very fast after it breaks the bolt loose with the impact hammer. I have both and would be more than happy to let you borrow both and try them before you buy, or just borrow them when you need them. The only time I use them is when I am working on a car, and that is not very often anymore. On 1/30/08, OK Don [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I was thinking of those longer bolts, and those times when there's a lot of them to turn. My arthritic wrists aren't what they used to be. I wouldn't expect it break anything loose, just do the repetitive work. What is a butterfly impact, and what will it do that a fly swatter won't? As for the ratchet I have one, but I find I use my 3/8 butterfly impact a lot more than the ratchet. The only time I use the ratchet is for a long bolt that I cant get the butterfly too. The ratchet is slow, and not strong enough to break anything loose with air pressure alone. -- OK Don, KD5NRO Norman, OK There are three kinds of lies: lies, damn lies, and statistics. -Benjamin Disraeli and/or Mark Twain '90 300D, '87 300SDL, '81 240D, '78 450SLC, '97 Ply Grand Voyager ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- OK Richard 1987 300D 193k with miles and miles to go!!! Midwest City, Oklahoma ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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You obviously don't have enough old Mercedes's (what is the plural of Mercedes?) then if you ask, some of us can help you though. The only time I use them is when I am working on a car, and that is not very often anymore. -- OK Don, KD5NRO Norman, OK There are three kinds of lies: lies, damn lies, and statistics. -Benjamin Disraeli and/or Mark Twain '90 300D, '87 300SDL, '81 240D, '78 450SLC, '97 Ply Grand Voyager ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Butterfly impact? Is there a torque or longevity benefit or is it just a comfort thing for you? Luther On Wed, 30 Jan 2008 22:29:35 -0600, Richard Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You set it outside run it up and let it set all day. 150 psi is not going to blow anything up, but I would not want to be standing in front of the relief valve or drain plug if it blew out. As for the ratchet I have one, but I find I use my 3/8 butterfly impact a lot more than the ratchet. The only time I use the ratchet is for a long bolt that I cant get the butterfly too. The ratchet is slow, and not strong enough to break anything loose with air pressure alone. -- Luther KB5QHUAlma, Ark '87 300SDL (272,xxx mi) head case '85 Ford F250 6.9 diesel (x58,xxx mi) '82 300CD (166 kmi) '82 300D (74 kmi) getting donor engine-sold '85 300D (280,176) parts car sans engine ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
