Re: [MBZ] OT Ain't this sumpin -- 1985 Baker-Zaiker 1 of 12, $30, 000
The Clarkson thing looks like a 40 year American car, but in reality it's a Mitsuoka Le-Seyde. That's Mitsuoka, as in Viewt. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT Ain't this sumpin -- 1985 Baker-Zaiker 1 of 12, $30, 000
Yes, the addition of the candelabra on the front fenders I found to be quite tasteful, along the lines of “Grey Poupon” sort of stuff. -D > On Dec 17, 2023, at 11:22 AM, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes > wrote: > > I remember him driving that thing. The lamps on the fenders were a nice touch > > —FT > > Sent from my iPad > >> On Dec 17, 2023, at 12:30 AM, M. Mitchell Marmel via Mercedes >> wrote: >> >> https://www.themix.org.uk/travel-and-lifestyle/thegranddraw-enter-for-a-chance-to-win-this-car-49165.html >> >> I'm just sayin'. >> >> -MMM- >> ___ >> http://www.okiebenz.com >> >> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >> >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >> > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT Ain't this sumpin -- 1985 Baker-Zaiker 1 of 12, $30, 000
I remember him driving that thing. The lamps on the fenders were a nice touch —FT Sent from my iPad > On Dec 17, 2023, at 12:30 AM, M. Mitchell Marmel via Mercedes > wrote: > > https://www.themix.org.uk/travel-and-lifestyle/thegranddraw-enter-for-a-chance-to-win-this-car-49165.html > > I'm just sayin'. > > -MMM- > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT Ain't this sumpin -- 1985 Baker-Zaiker 1 of 12, $30, 000
And they’ve only raised 27,000 pounds for it, so that says something about value. -D > On Dec 17, 2023, at 12:30 AM, M. Mitchell Marmel via Mercedes > wrote: > > https://www.themix.org.uk/travel-and-lifestyle/thegranddraw-enter-for-a-chance-to-win-this-car-49165.html > > I'm just sayin'. > > -MMM- > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT Ain't this sumpin -- 1985 Baker-Zaiker 1 of 12, $30, 000
https://www.themix.org.uk/travel-and-lifestyle/thegranddraw-enter-for-a-chance-to-win-this-car-49165.html I'm just sayin'. -MMM- ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT Ain't this sumpin -- 1985 Baker-Zaiker 1 of 12, $30, 000
On 2023-12-16 10:23, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes wrote: Dad's pride and joy https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/863682232111851 I assume one of these would be worth more, but likewise a very limited audience. Far more limited than the Avanti audience (also Studebaker content). https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:1984_Excalibur_Series_IV_Phaeton_(5409795985).jpg https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Excalibur_%28automobile%29 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT Ain't this sumpin -- 1985 Baker-Zaiker 1 of 12, $30, 000
What it really means is Grandpa blew a boatload of money on a one-off car that has limited, if any, value in the modern marketplace, despite him constantly telling everyone how expensive a car it was, rare/unique, etc., etc., etc. so he could rationalize having it. I can’t count the times I’ve heard stories like this from heirs. It’s usually when they’re trying to liquidate all of Grandpa’s or Dad’s stuff after they passed, and the heirs have no interest in the stuff whatsoever. I used to see a lot of R107s on the market around here some years back, which is where I had some of these experiences, as well as seeing and participating in them online, too.: Heirs: "Dad always said the car was worth something like $50-$60k.” (Reality being maybe $30k on a good day, for a point of reference.) Me: “Yes, but we don’t know what Dad was basing that amount on. The current market (showing comps) is $25k.” Heirs: “But he said it was worth that much! I‘m pretty sure that’s what he had it insured for, too.” Me: “Got a copy of the policy?” Heirs: “Uh, no, but that’s what he always said!” Lather, rinse, repeat. They go down this road with so many different people, ultimately getting to the point where they give in and it goes for a reasonable price, or they just park it in a garage somewhere. Occasionally there will be a rational family member who does some due diligence, but that’s the exception rather than the norm, or so it seems. Occasionally they get ugly, like you’re trying to rip them off (which is a reasonable concern for someone who doesn’t know the cars or market) and all you can do is walk away. When I’m working a deal like this, I try to make a big deal about how I care for my cars, and that they’re like members of the family, yadda, yadda, yadda. There is some truth to that, but my point is that in a lot of these cases, there’s emotion involved. Find a way to channel that and you improve your chance of success exponentially. That, and learning the provenance of these cars can be kind of cool at times. I think about the 1962 300SE I bought in San Francisco. I tracked down the owner’s daughter and had a good hour-long phone conversation with her about her Dad and the car. It was pretty cool. -D > On Dec 16, 2023, at 3:33 PM, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes > wrote: > > But it’s only 1of 12! Very rare! For good reason… > > If I drove it i would need to buy a leisure suit and white belt and white > shoes and a plaid hat with narrow brim. And a Members Only jacket and large > sunglasses > > --FT > Sent from iFōn > >> On Dec 16, 2023, at 10:48 AM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes >> wrote: >> >> Dad always talked about how much the car is worth - this would be a major >> “tell” that it had little or no value... > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT Ain't this sumpin -- 1985 Baker-Zaiker 1 of 12, $30, 000
But it’s only 1of 12! Very rare! For good reason… If I drove it i would need to buy a leisure suit and white belt and white shoes and a plaid hat with narrow brim. And a Members Only jacket and large sunglasses --FT Sent from iFōn > On Dec 16, 2023, at 10:48 AM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes > wrote: > > Dad always talked about how much the car is worth - this would be a major > “tell” that it had little or no value... ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT Ain't this sumpin -- 1985 Baker-Zaiker 1 of 12, $30, 000
And one of the most butt-ugly hand-built cars I've ever seen. Looks like the front half of the passenger cabin from a 1980s Lincoln that had the front end, swoopy fenders and a trunk stuck to it. And let me guess - Dad always talked about how much the car is worth - this would be a major “tell” that it had little or no value... -D > On Dec 16, 2023, at 10:23 AM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes > wrote: > > Dad's pride and joy > > https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/863682232111851 > > -- > --FT > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
