Re: [MBZ] Oil (Dino)
It's snowing here, if he's back, he can lie on his back and make snow angels while cooling off the burn --- On Tue, Feb 19, 2013 at 8:55 PM, Max Dillon meadedil...@bellsouth.netwrote: Ya mon! Kaleb - Aspirin, Tylenol, Advil: which painkiller works for you will be your best friend to help you with the pain from the Radiation Burns. -- OK Don - with approx 2 snow on the ground - more than the total for the last two years! ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Oil (Dino)
On 20/02/2013 11:51 AM, OK Don wrote: It's snowing here, if he's back, he can lie on his back and make snow angels while cooling off the burn --- On Tue, Feb 19, 2013 at 8:55 PM, Max Dillon meadedil...@bellsouth.netwrote: Ya mon! Kaleb - Aspirin, Tylenol, Advil: which painkiller works for you will be your best friend to help you with the pain from the Radiation Burns. -- But frostbite won't likely make things much better. Randy ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Oil (Dino)
On Wed, Feb 20, 2013 at 3:54 PM, Randy Bennell rbenn...@bennell.ca wrote: On 20/02/2013 11:51 AM, OK Don wrote: It's snowing here, if he's back, he can lie on his back and make snow angels while cooling off the burn --- On Tue, Feb 19, 2013 at 8:55 PM, Max Dillon meadedil...@bellsouth.net** wrote: Ya mon! Kaleb - Aspirin, Tylenol, Advil: which painkiller works for you will be your best friend to help you with the pain from the Radiation Burns. -- But frostbite won't likely make things much better. Randy Nah, it's hovering around freezing - a little snow exposure would do no harm. -- OK Don 2001 ML320 2012 Passat TDI DSG 1957 C182A ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Oil (Dino)
What are you seeing? Could be the demographics, as you point out. More people here into alternative things and doing hippy stuff. BioD makes them happy and it is hipster-er to have a common man car on veg or hemp oil. Gas cars would be more executive and less hipster to drive. Diesel is simple, low cylinder count, instead of the V engines that take wallets full of cash to keep on the road. There are a number of S type cars with little russian or oriental ladies at the wheel. The upscale, tech end of town, instead of the former lumber yard neighborhoods. Microsoft wives instead of the younger crowd. clay On Feb 14, 2013, at 5:11 AM, Tim Crone wrote: Not a statistically significant example of vergassers over the age of 18 years. I can be certain that any Benz over the age of 21 is going to be a diesel. Maybe that says more about Seattle than Mercedes; plenty of old gasmobiles in North Carolina. Here diesels are the oddballs. Best, Tim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Oil (Dino)
Not a statistically significant example of vergassers over the age of 18 years. I can be certain that any Benz over the age of 21 is going to be a diesel. Maybe that says more about Seattle than Mercedes; plenty of old gasmobiles in North Carolina. Here diesels are the oddballs. Best, Tim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Oil (Dino)
What's with the sudden influx of old messages? Did the Red Lobster return from the islands? Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Oil (Dino)
Ya mon! Kaleb - Aspirin, Tylenol, Advil: which painkiller works for you will be your best friend to help you with the pain from the Radiation Burns. -- Max Dillon Charleston SC '95 E300, '87 300TD, '73 Balboa 20 Mitch Haley m...@voyager.net wrote: What's with the sudden influx of old messages? Did the Red Lobster return from the islands? Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Oil (Dino)
Is that also the v-twin motorcycle oil or am I learning about something new? A quick google check shows just the v-twin in 20w50. -Curt Date: Fri, 15 Feb 2013 21:28:52 -0800 From: clay monroe redgh...@comcast.net To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] Oil (Dino) Message-ID: 57023540-e74b-431c-9300-a633346cc...@comcast.net Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sadly, the bottles of 20-50 M1 sitting on the shelf in my garage beg to differ clay On Feb 14, 2013, at 7:06 PM, Curt Raymond wrote: I hate to be that guy but I can't stop myself. Mobil 1 20w50 = doesn't exist. I think you mean 15w50. I've been getting it in 5 quart jugs at Wal-Mart pretty reliably. The ONLY reason I'll go to Wal-Mart. My local Autozone and CarQuest will order in whatever I want, just have to ask. CarQuest even carries some RoyalPurple. Not all the weights but they'd order different weights if I wanted them. -Curt ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Oil (Dino)
Curt Raymond wrote: Is that also the v-twin motorcycle oil or am I learning about something new? A quick google check shows just the v-twin in 20w50. All I've ever seen is 20w50 bike oil and 15w-50 (red cap/label) car oil, and that's dating back to the introduction of the 15w-50 over 25 years ago. I still have a few quarts of 5w30 in the all steel cans, made when 5w30 was the only viscosity available. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Oil (Dino)
There is. I used to use it in my Virago. Dan On Feb 14, 2013, at 10:20 PM, Brian Toscano brian.tosc...@gmail.com wrote: I think there is a V-Twin 20w-50. On Thu, Feb 14, 2013 at 8:06 PM, Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com wrote: I hate to be that guy but I can't stop myself. Mobil 1 20w50 = doesn't exist. I think you mean 15w50. I've been getting it in 5 quart jugs at Wal-Mart pretty reliably. The ONLY reason I'll go to Wal-Mart. My local Autozone and CarQuest will order in whatever I want, just have to ask. CarQuest even carries some RoyalPurple. Not all the weights but they'd order different weights if I wanted them. -Curt Date: Thu, 14 Feb 2013 21:07:27 -0500 From: Tony Wirtel tony.wir...@gmail.com To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] Oil (Dino) Message-ID: cae0hj1xuotffmsgydrnubeezkupjg4bt7yjcfrg8nvz6pmz...@mail.gmail.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Curious as to the list's opinions on regular Dino oil for use in the 1992 300E. I have run two changes of Mobil1 to quiet the lifters, which it has done. I want to go back to a conventional oil for cost reasons. Not a lot of miles being put on it and a starving college student driving it. I am pretty sure that Tony was running conventional oil in it prior to my purchase as well (Tony?) Thanks, Dan Sent from my iPad Hi Dan- I ran M1 20w50 for a time but still had occasional tapping on startup after the car sat for 3-5 days so switched over to Movil Delvac 15w-40 (1300 maybe?) which was much cheaper and easier to consistently find. Prior to M1 I used to use Chevron Delo 400 but after one change the hot (summer stop-and-go hot) oil pressure at idle dropped to .5 bar right after the change I switched to 20w50 M1. I hated throwing away oil with less than 200 miles on it- but w/the M1 saw pretty consistent lowest readings of 1.1-1.2 bar (hot weather/ full AC/stop and go). But M1 supply was spotty at best so switched over to Delvac, with no change in lowest/worst case oil pressure. Now, the car used about 1 quart between changes so for that I'd use any 20w50 or 15w40- I think I gave you whatever I had when you got the car. Glad to hear she's still going- I had an uh oh moment when you sent the email saying one of the cars got totaled out. Did you ever get the AC back up? Tony Wirtel ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Oil (Dino)
Rats, you're right. Its spendy stuff, last I checked it was $9/qt but that was when 15w50 was $6/qt... I used M1 5w40 in my motorcycles (both asian bikes) with excellent results. Loads of people told me I'd have troubles with clutch slippage but I haven't seen that. I guess if you use the energy conserving oil that can happen but that badge isn't on the 5w40. -Curt Date: Thu, 14 Feb 2013 20:20:22 -0700 From: Brian Toscano brian.tosc...@gmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] Oil (Dino) Message-ID: CACnCPhmmZyCw=pjxxy3q+ru4vpkok6hinkc58tljkf5ne39...@mail.gmail.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 I think there is a V-Twin 20w-50. On Thu, Feb 14, 2013 at 8:06 PM, Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com wrote: I hate to be that guy but I can't stop myself. Mobil 1 20w50 = doesn't exist. I think you mean 15w50. I've been getting it in 5 quart jugs at Wal-Mart pretty reliably. The ONLY reason I'll go to Wal-Mart. My local Autozone and CarQuest will order in whatever I want, just have to ask. CarQuest even carries some RoyalPurple. Not all the weights but they'd order different weights if I wanted them. -Curt ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Oil (Dino)
Curt Raymond wrote: I used M1 5w40 in my motorcycles (both asian bikes) with excellent results. Loads of people told me I'd have troubles with clutch slippage but I haven't seen that. I guess if you use the energy conserving oil that can happen but that badge isn't on the 5w40. Back in the 1980s I tried 15w50 in my CB200 when it became available. (M1 was initially 5w30) Couldn't break the clutch loose by rolling on the throttle, but if I launched it hard or shifted fast, the clutch could not pull the engine (all 16hp of it) down to match road speed. Dumping the clutch at a standing start would just let the engine rev until the bike caught up to the engine's speed. After my next oil change, it went back to normal behavior, in which dumping the clutch from standstill would result in wheelspin and a little wheelie, and shifting under power would result in the bike lunging forward instead of clutch slipping. I suppose it all depends on how strong the clutch is in relation to the engine, but 1980s Mobil One definitely reduced the friction in a wet clutch as compared to dino oils of the time. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Oil (Dino)
There were all sorts of anecdotal stories about synthetics and the havoc they wreaked on clutches in the Virago forum I belonged to. Mobil1 also made a lot of statements and disclaimers regarding the reason for the different type of oil for air cooled engines/bikes, and how the additives they had in the V series oil were critical to proper clutch operation. I used to buy it by the case (six bottles) from a place in Miami that sold all sorts of unusual lubricants. They would have it on special twice a year for $50/case shipped. Last time I looked at it here at a FLAPS it was over $10/quart. Dan On Feb 15, 2013, at 3:45 PM, Mitch Haley wrote: Curt Raymond wrote: I used M1 5w40 in my motorcycles (both asian bikes) with excellent results. Loads of people told me I'd have troubles with clutch slippage but I haven't seen that. I guess if you use the energy conserving oil that can happen but that badge isn't on the 5w40. Back in the 1980s I tried 15w50 in my CB200 when it became available. (M1 was initially 5w30) Couldn't break the clutch loose by rolling on the throttle, but if I launched it hard or shifted fast, the clutch could not pull the engine (all 16hp of it) down to match road speed. Dumping the clutch at a standing start would just let the engine rev until the bike caught up to the engine's speed. After my next oil change, it went back to normal behavior, in which dumping the clutch from standstill would result in wheelspin and a little wheelie, and shifting under power would result in the bike lunging forward instead of clutch slipping. I suppose it all depends on how strong the clutch is in relation to the engine, but 1980s Mobil One definitely reduced the friction in a wet clutch as compared to dino oils of the time. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Oil (Dino)
Regular Auto M1 (I forget which weight) worked just fine in the '84 R100 BMW I had years ago. On Fri, Feb 15, 2013 at 4:59 PM, Dan Penoff d...@penoff.com wrote: There were all sorts of anecdotal stories about synthetics and the havoc they wreaked on clutches in the Virago forum I belonged to. Mobil1 also made a lot of statements and disclaimers regarding the reason for the different type of oil for air cooled engines/bikes, and how the additives they had in the V series oil were critical to proper clutch operation. I used to buy it by the case (six bottles) from a place in Miami that sold all sorts of unusual lubricants. They would have it on special twice a year for $50/case shipped. Last time I looked at it here at a FLAPS it was over $10/quart. Dan -- OK Don 2001 ML320 2012 Passat TDI DSG 1957 C182A ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Oil (Dino)
I started my experimenting with my wife's '89 Kawi LTD 454. Although the engine is small at 32hp its no slouch and will break the rear tire free pretty much anytime you want. I can detect no appreciable clutch slip. With that success I tried it in my '82 Honda CB900F, thats a 90something HP bike IIRC and will gladly sit still and spin the rear tire to shreds all day long if you let it. Mobil 1 didn't change that. It did change the cold start characteristics (which was mostly what I was after) in that the bike got slightly easier to start when cold. Its still a bastard if its been sitting any amount of time, just slightly less so. -Curt Date: Fri, 15 Feb 2013 15:45:13 -0500 From: Mitch Haley m...@voyager.net To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] Oil (Dino) Message-ID: 511e9e59.5000...@voyager.net Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Curt Raymond wrote: I used M1 5w40 in my motorcycles (both asian bikes) with excellent results. Loads of people told me I'd have troubles with clutch slippage but I haven't seen that. I guess if you use the energy conserving oil that can happen but that badge isn't on the 5w40. Back in the 1980s I tried 15w50 in my CB200 when it became available. (M1 was initially 5w30) Couldn't break the clutch loose by rolling on the throttle, but if I launched it hard or shifted fast, the clutch could not pull the engine (all 16hp of it) down to match road speed. Dumping the clutch at a standing start would just let the engine rev until the bike caught up to the engine's speed. After my next oil change, it went back to normal behavior, in which dumping the clutch from standstill would result in wheelspin and a little wheelie, and shifting under power would result in the bike lunging forward instead of clutch slipping. I suppose it all depends on how strong the clutch is in relation to the engine, but 1980s Mobil One definitely reduced the friction in a wet clutch as compared to dino oils of the time. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Oil (Dino)
Sadly, the bottles of 20-50 M1 sitting on the shelf in my garage beg to differ clay On Feb 14, 2013, at 7:06 PM, Curt Raymond wrote: I hate to be that guy but I can't stop myself. Mobil 1 20w50 = doesn't exist. I think you mean 15w50. I've been getting it in 5 quart jugs at Wal-Mart pretty reliably. The ONLY reason I'll go to Wal-Mart. My local Autozone and CarQuest will order in whatever I want, just have to ask. CarQuest even carries some RoyalPurple. Not all the weights but they'd order different weights if I wanted them. -Curt Date: Thu, 14 Feb 2013 21:07:27 -0500 From: Tony Wirtel tony.wir...@gmail.com To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] Oil (Dino) Message-ID: cae0hj1xuotffmsgydrnubeezkupjg4bt7yjcfrg8nvz6pmz...@mail.gmail.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Curious as to the list's opinions on regular Dino oil for use in the 1992 300E. I have run two changes of Mobil1 to quiet the lifters, which it has done. I want to go back to a conventional oil for cost reasons. Not a lot of miles being put on it and a starving college student driving it. I am pretty sure that Tony was running conventional oil in it prior to my purchase as well (Tony?) Thanks, Dan Sent from my iPad Hi Dan- I ran M1 20w50 for a time but still had occasional tapping on startup after the car sat for 3-5 days so switched over to Movil Delvac 15w-40 (1300 maybe?) which was much cheaper and easier to consistently find. Prior to M1 I used to use Chevron Delo 400 but after one change the hot (summer stop-and-go hot) oil pressure at idle dropped to .5 bar right after the change I switched to 20w50 M1. I hated throwing away oil with less than 200 miles on it- but w/the M1 saw pretty consistent lowest readings of 1.1-1.2 bar (hot weather/ full AC/stop and go). But M1 supply was spotty at best so switched over to Delvac, with no change in lowest/worst case oil pressure. Now, the car used about 1 quart between changes so for that I'd use any 20w50 or 15w40- I think I gave you whatever I had when you got the car. Glad to hear she's still going- I had an uh oh moment when you sent the email saying one of the cars got totaled out. Did you ever get the AC back up? Tony Wirtel ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Oil (Dino)
Why? You like pouring money away? Whats the factory recommended change interval for the car? Most cars from the '90s went to at least a 5,000 mile change interval. Changing at 3,000 miles on those cars is just a waste of money. My '84 190D is on a 12,000 mile interval as supported by oil analysis, it could probably go to 15 or even 17k but this gets me to about three times every 2 years which makes it pretty easy. My Ford Ranger we use 5w30 (as directed by Ford) and change at 10k. Factory interval is 7500 I think. I should do analysis on that but it doesn't get a lot of highway miles so I like to get the crud out, again that works out to about twice a year which makes it easy. A guy at work has a Mercury Marauder in which he was using M1 5w30 at 2500 mile intervals, the factory interval I think is 5k. I asked him if I could have the oil oil. He wanted to know why, I told him I was going to put it in the Ranger and run it another 7500 miles. He's up to the factory interval now which, considering he doesn't drive the car in the winter or in the rain is probably about good. -Curt Date: Wed, 13 Feb 2013 13:13:50 -0500 From: Dan Penoff d...@penoff.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] Oil (Dino) Message-ID: 58401359-afc4-48cf-b649-611d35b0c...@penoff.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii I don't do longer change intervals, even with M1. Dan ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Oil (Dino)
Just to clarify, I have been changing the 300E at 5,000 mile intervals, not 3,000. I had 3,000 on the brain from doing diesels. I am going to stretch it out to 10,000 for now. I may pull a sample and have a friend of mine in the industrial engine business do an analysis on it, as he has access to a lab. Dan On Feb 14, 2013, at 1:29 PM, Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com wrote: Why? You like pouring money away? Whats the factory recommended change interval for the car? Most cars from the '90s went to at least a 5,000 mile change interval. Changing at 3,000 miles on those cars is just a waste of money. My '84 190D is on a 12,000 mile interval as supported by oil analysis, it could probably go to 15 or even 17k but this gets me to about three times every 2 years which makes it pretty easy. My Ford Ranger we use 5w30 (as directed by Ford) and change at 10k. Factory interval is 7500 I think. I should do analysis on that but it doesn't get a lot of highway miles so I like to get the crud out, again that works out to about twice a year which makes it easy. A guy at work has a Mercury Marauder in which he was using M1 5w30 at 2500 mile intervals, the factory interval I think is 5k. I asked him if I could have the oil oil. He wanted to know why, I told him I was going to put it in the Ranger and run it another 7500 miles. He's up to the factory interval now which, considering he doesn't drive the car in the winter or in the rain is probably about good. -Curt Date: Wed, 13 Feb 2013 13:13:50 -0500 From: Dan Penoff d...@penoff.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] Oil (Dino) Message-ID: 58401359-afc4-48cf-b649-611d35b0c...@penoff.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii I don't do longer change intervals, even with M1. Dan ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Oil (Dino)
Why not go to youroil.net and spend $60 for 3 suction bottles and analysis. The kit comes with nice prepaid boxes, you pull a sample, send it out and in a few days get a nice pdf from Larry. You're gonna have to find a clean drain pan, crawl under the car, clean away the schmutz from the drain, go find a new drain pan because you dropped schmutz into the pan you were going to use, pull a little sample, get the plug back in, go get the speedy-dri to clean up all the oil you got on the ground. Go wash up and be sure to run plenty of cold water on the burn from the hot oil (gotta pull the sample hot for it to be valid), I'm sure the redness will go away soon. Then your friend might sit on the sample 3 maybe 4 weeks because maybe he's busy this month. Meanwhile you don't know if your oil is just fine or ruining your engine... ;) -Curt Date: Thu, 14 Feb 2013 14:05:43 -0500 From: Dan Penoff d...@penoff.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] Oil (Dino) Message-ID: db0e2d54-df3e-4848-ba6a-ce4d2dc69...@penoff.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Just to clarify, I have been changing the 300E at 5,000 mile intervals, not 3,000. I had 3,000 on the brain from doing diesels. I am going to stretch it out to 10,000 for now. I may pull a sample and have a friend of mine in the industrial engine business do an analysis on it, as he has access to a lab. Dan On Feb 14, 2013, at 1:29 PM, Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com wrote: Why? You like pouring money away? Whats the factory recommended change interval for the car? Most cars from the '90s went to at least a 5,000 mile change interval. Changing at 3,000 miles on those cars is just a waste of money. My '84 190D is on a 12,000 mile interval as supported by oil analysis, it could probably go to 15 or even 17k but this gets me to about three times every 2 years which makes it pretty easy. My Ford Ranger we use 5w30 (as directed by Ford) and change at 10k. Factory interval is 7500 I think. I should do analysis on that but it doesn't get a lot of highway miles so I like to get the crud out, again that works out to about twice a year which makes it easy. A guy at work has a Mercury Marauder in which he was using M1 5w30 at 2500 mile intervals, the factory interval I think is 5k. I asked him if I could have the oil oil. He wanted to know why, I told him I was going to put it in the Ranger and run it another 7500 miles. He's up to the factory interval now which, considering he doesn't drive the car in the winter or in the rain is probably about good. -Curt ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Oil (Dino)
Because I have an extraction unit with clean sample bottles/tubes and prepaid mailers. One of the tools I used regularly for over 20 years in the generator business. I just fill out the data sheet that goes with the sample and he'll get the results emailed to him within 72 hours of the sample arriving at the lab. It goes to these guys, who I have used for years: http://www.polarislabs.com/ Thanks for the suggestion, however. Dan On Feb 14, 2013, at 6:03 PM, Curt Raymond wrote: Why not go to youroil.net and spend $60 for 3 suction bottles and analysis. The kit comes with nice prepaid boxes, you pull a sample, send it out and in a few days get a nice pdf from Larry. You're gonna have to find a clean drain pan, crawl under the car, clean away the schmutz from the drain, go find a new drain pan because you dropped schmutz into the pan you were going to use, pull a little sample, get the plug back in, go get the speedy-dri to clean up all the oil you got on the ground. Go wash up and be sure to run plenty of cold water on the burn from the hot oil (gotta pull the sample hot for it to be valid), I'm sure the redness will go away soon. Then your friend might sit on the sample 3 maybe 4 weeks because maybe he's busy this month. Meanwhile you don't know if your oil is just fine or ruining your engine... ;) -Curt ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Oil (Dino)
Curious as to the list's opinions on regular Dino oil for use in the 1992 300E. I have run two changes of Mobil1 to quiet the lifters, which it has done. I want to go back to a conventional oil for cost reasons. Not a lot of miles being put on it and a starving college student driving it. I am pretty sure that Tony was running conventional oil in it prior to my purchase as well (Tony?) Thanks, Dan Sent from my iPad Hi Dan- I ran M1 20w50 for a time but still had occasional tapping on startup after the car sat for 3-5 days so switched over to Movil Delvac 15w-40 (1300 maybe?) which was much cheaper and easier to consistently find. Prior to M1 I used to use Chevron Delo 400 but after one change the hot (summer stop-and-go hot) oil pressure at idle dropped to .5 bar right after the change I switched to 20w50 M1. I hated throwing away oil with less than 200 miles on it- but w/the M1 saw pretty consistent lowest readings of 1.1-1.2 bar (hot weather/ full AC/stop and go). But M1 supply was spotty at best so switched over to Delvac, with no change in lowest/worst case oil pressure. Now, the car used about 1 quart between changes so for that I'd use any 20w50 or 15w40- I think I gave you whatever I had when you got the car. Glad to hear she's still going- I had an uh oh moment when you sent the email saying one of the cars got totaled out. Did you ever get the AC back up? Tony Wirtel ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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I hate to be that guy but I can't stop myself. Mobil 1 20w50 = doesn't exist. I think you mean 15w50. I've been getting it in 5 quart jugs at Wal-Mart pretty reliably. The ONLY reason I'll go to Wal-Mart. My local Autozone and CarQuest will order in whatever I want, just have to ask. CarQuest even carries some RoyalPurple. Not all the weights but they'd order different weights if I wanted them. -Curt Date: Thu, 14 Feb 2013 21:07:27 -0500 From: Tony Wirtel tony.wir...@gmail.com To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] Oil (Dino) Message-ID: cae0hj1xuotffmsgydrnubeezkupjg4bt7yjcfrg8nvz6pmz...@mail.gmail.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Curious as to the list's opinions on regular Dino oil for use in the 1992 300E. I have run two changes of Mobil1 to quiet the lifters, which it has done. I want to go back to a conventional oil for cost reasons. Not a lot of miles being put on it and a starving college student driving it. I am pretty sure that Tony was running conventional oil in it prior to my purchase as well (Tony?) Thanks, Dan Sent from my iPad Hi Dan- I ran M1 20w50 for a time but still had occasional tapping on startup after the car sat for 3-5 days so switched over to Movil Delvac 15w-40 (1300 maybe?) which was much cheaper and easier to consistently find. Prior to M1 I used to use Chevron Delo 400 but after one change the hot (summer stop-and-go hot) oil pressure at idle dropped to .5 bar right after the change I switched to 20w50 M1. I hated throwing away oil with less than 200 miles on it- but w/the M1 saw pretty consistent lowest readings of 1.1-1.2 bar (hot weather/ full AC/stop and go). But M1 supply was spotty at best so switched over to Delvac, with no change in lowest/worst case oil pressure. Now, the car used about 1 quart between changes so for that I'd use any 20w50 or 15w40- I think I gave you whatever I had when you got the car. Glad to hear she's still going- I had an uh oh moment when you sent the email saying one of the cars got totaled out. Did you ever get the AC back up? Tony Wirtel ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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I think there is a V-Twin 20w-50. On Thu, Feb 14, 2013 at 8:06 PM, Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com wrote: I hate to be that guy but I can't stop myself. Mobil 1 20w50 = doesn't exist. I think you mean 15w50. I've been getting it in 5 quart jugs at Wal-Mart pretty reliably. The ONLY reason I'll go to Wal-Mart. My local Autozone and CarQuest will order in whatever I want, just have to ask. CarQuest even carries some RoyalPurple. Not all the weights but they'd order different weights if I wanted them. -Curt Date: Thu, 14 Feb 2013 21:07:27 -0500 From: Tony Wirtel tony.wir...@gmail.com To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] Oil (Dino) Message-ID: cae0hj1xuotffmsgydrnubeezkupjg4bt7yjcfrg8nvz6pmz...@mail.gmail.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Curious as to the list's opinions on regular Dino oil for use in the 1992 300E. I have run two changes of Mobil1 to quiet the lifters, which it has done. I want to go back to a conventional oil for cost reasons. Not a lot of miles being put on it and a starving college student driving it. I am pretty sure that Tony was running conventional oil in it prior to my purchase as well (Tony?) Thanks, Dan Sent from my iPad Hi Dan- I ran M1 20w50 for a time but still had occasional tapping on startup after the car sat for 3-5 days so switched over to Movil Delvac 15w-40 (1300 maybe?) which was much cheaper and easier to consistently find. Prior to M1 I used to use Chevron Delo 400 but after one change the hot (summer stop-and-go hot) oil pressure at idle dropped to .5 bar right after the change I switched to 20w50 M1. I hated throwing away oil with less than 200 miles on it- but w/the M1 saw pretty consistent lowest readings of 1.1-1.2 bar (hot weather/ full AC/stop and go). But M1 supply was spotty at best so switched over to Delvac, with no change in lowest/worst case oil pressure. Now, the car used about 1 quart between changes so for that I'd use any 20w50 or 15w40- I think I gave you whatever I had when you got the car. Glad to hear she's still going- I had an uh oh moment when you sent the email saying one of the cars got totaled out. Did you ever get the AC back up? Tony Wirtel ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Oil (Dino)
I think there is a V-Twin 20w-50. castrol 20w-50 has been around for at least 40 years. It used to be good. I don't think much of castrol products for the past 20 years. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Oil (Dino)
Curious as to the list's opinions on regular Dino oil for use in the 1992 300E. I have run two changes of Mobil1 to quiet the lifters, which it has done. I want to go back to a conventional oil for cost reasons. Not a lot of miles being put on it and a starving college student driving it. I am pretty sure that Tony was running conventional oil in it prior to my purchase as well (Tony?) Thanks, Dan Sent from my iPad ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Oil (Dino)
How does the cost per mile work out when you consider the longer change interval with Mobil 1? Gerry From: Dan Penoff d...@penoff.com Curious as to the list's opinions on regular Dino oil for use in the 1992 300E. I have run two changes of Mobil1 to quiet the lifters, which it has done. I want to go back to a conventional oil for cost reasons. Not a lot of miles being put on it and a starving college student driving it. I am pretty sure that Tony was running conventional oil in it prior to my purchase as well (Tony?) Thanks, Dan Sent from my iPad ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2012.0.2238 / Virus Database: 2639/5601 - Release Date: 02/13/13 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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I don't do longer change intervals, even with M1. Dan On Feb 13, 2013, at 1:12 PM, Gerry Archer arche...@embarqmail.com wrote: How does the cost per mile work out when you consider the longer change interval with Mobil 1? Gerry From: Dan Penoff d...@penoff.com Curious as to the list's opinions on regular Dino oil for use in the 1992 300E. I have run two changes of Mobil1 to quiet the lifters, which it has done. I want to go back to a conventional oil for cost reasons. Not a lot of miles being put on it and a starving college student driving it. I am pretty sure that Tony was running conventional oil in it prior to my purchase as well (Tony?) Thanks, Dan Sent from my iPad ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2012.0.2238 / Virus Database: 2639/5601 - Release Date: 02/13/13 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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I would use the delvac 1300 Sent from my iPhone On Feb 13, 2013, at 11:56 AM, Dan Penoff d...@penoff.com wrote: Curious as to the list's opinions on regular Dino oil for use in the 1992 300E. I have run two changes of Mobil1 to quiet the lifters, which it has done. I want to go back to a conventional oil for cost reasons. Not a lot of miles being put on it and a starving college student driving it. I am pretty sure that Tony was running conventional oil in it prior to my purchase as well (Tony?) Thanks, Dan Sent from my iPad ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Oil (Dino)
Only three negatives I can see: lifter noise may return, can't do extended oil change intervals, and slight increase in engine wear. Lifter noise is no big deal, no damage is being done. -- Max Dillon Charleston SC '95 E300, '87 300TD, '73 Balboa 20 Dan Penoff d...@penoff.com wrote: Curious as to the list's opinions on regular Dino oil for use in the 1992 300E. I have run two changes of Mobil1 to quiet the lifters, which it has done. I want to go back to a conventional oil for cost reasons. Not a lot of miles being put on it and a starving college student driving it. I am pretty sure that Tony was running conventional oil in it prior to my purchase as well (Tony?) Thanks, Dan Sent from my iPad ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Oil (Dino)
Save your used Mobil 1 for me? I'll be in Tampa again later this summer. -- Max Dillon Charleston SC '95 E300, '87 300TD, '73 Balboa 20 Dan Penoff d...@penoff.com wrote: I don't do longer change intervals, even with M1. Dan On Feb 13, 2013, at 1:12 PM, Gerry Archer arche...@embarqmail.com wrote: How does the cost per mile work out when you consider the longer change interval with Mobil 1? Gerry From: Dan Penoff d...@penoff.com Curious as to the list's opinions on regular Dino oil for use in the 1992 300E. I have run two changes of Mobil1 to quiet the lifters, which it has done. I want to go back to a conventional oil for cost reasons. Not a lot of miles being put on it and a starving college student driving it. I am pretty sure that Tony was running conventional oil in it prior to my purchase as well (Tony?) Thanks, Dan Sent from my iPad ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2012.0.2238 / Virus Database: 2639/5601 - Release Date: 02/13/13 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Yeah, that or Rotella T. Diesel oil is the new conventional oil for older cars. On Wed, Feb 13, 2013 at 1:27 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin ka...@striplin.netwrote: I would use the delvac 1300 Sent from my iPhone On Feb 13, 2013, at 11:56 AM, Dan Penoff d...@penoff.com wrote: Curious as to the list's opinions on regular Dino oil for use in the 1992 300E. I have run two changes of Mobil1 to quiet the lifters, which it has done. I want to go back to a conventional oil for cost reasons. Not a lot of miles being put on it and a starving college student driving it. I am pretty sure that Tony was running conventional oil in it prior to my purchase as well (Tony?) Thanks, Dan Sent from my iPad ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Jaime Kopchinski http://www.jaimekop.com/ ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Oil (Dino)
In a gasser? I thought Delvac was only used in diesels? Dan On Feb 13, 2013, at 1:27 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin ka...@striplin.net wrote: I would use the delvac 1300 Sent from my iPhone On Feb 13, 2013, at 11:56 AM, Dan Penoff d...@penoff.com wrote: Curious as to the list's opinions on regular Dino oil for use in the 1992 300E. I have run two changes of Mobil1 to quiet the lifters, which it has done. I want to go back to a conventional oil for cost reasons. Not a lot of miles being put on it and a starving college student driving it. I am pretty sure that Tony was running conventional oil in it prior to my purchase as well (Tony?) Thanks, Dan Sent from my iPad ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Its fine for gas engines also. (Its on the label). They will have reasonable amounts of ZDDP. On Wed, Feb 13, 2013 at 2:27 PM, Dan Penoff d...@penoff.com wrote: In a gasser? I thought Delvac was only used in diesels? Dan On Feb 13, 2013, at 1:27 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin ka...@striplin.net wrote: I would use the delvac 1300 Sent from my iPhone On Feb 13, 2013, at 11:56 AM, Dan Penoff d...@penoff.com wrote: Curious as to the list's opinions on regular Dino oil for use in the 1992 300E. I have run two changes of Mobil1 to quiet the lifters, which it has done. I want to go back to a conventional oil for cost reasons. Not a lot of miles being put on it and a starving college student driving it. I am pretty sure that Tony was running conventional oil in it prior to my purchase as well (Tony?) Thanks, Dan Sent from my iPad ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Jaime Kopchinski http://www.jaimekop.com/ ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Really? What is the rationale? I am curious about this. What about some of this high mileage stuff that the major oil companies hype? I know Rotella very well, as it was a standard for all kinds of stationary diesels, but we never put it in a gasser. Dan On Feb 13, 2013, at 2:23 PM, Jaime Kopchinski jaime...@gmail.com wrote: Yeah, that or Rotella T. Diesel oil is the new conventional oil for older cars. On Wed, Feb 13, 2013 at 1:27 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin ka...@striplin.netwrote: I would use the delvac 1300 Sent from my iPhone On Feb 13, 2013, at 11:56 AM, Dan Penoff d...@penoff.com wrote: Curious as to the list's opinions on regular Dino oil for use in the 1992 300E. I have run two changes of Mobil1 to quiet the lifters, which it has done. I want to go back to a conventional oil for cost reasons. Not a lot of miles being put on it and a starving college student driving it. I am pretty sure that Tony was running conventional oil in it prior to my purchase as well (Tony?) Thanks, Dan Sent from my iPad ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Jaime Kopchinski http://www.jaimekop.com/ ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Oil (Dino)
So for those of you who are doing Mobil1 in a gasser, what kind if change intervals are you running. 5000? 7500? Thanks, Dan On Feb 13, 2013, at 2:08 PM, Max Dillon meadedil...@bellsouth.net wrote: Only three negatives I can see: lifter noise may return, can't do extended oil change intervals, and slight increase in engine wear. Lifter noise is no big deal, no damage is being done. -- Max Dillon Charleston SC '95 E300, '87 300TD, '73 Balboa 20 Dan Penoff d...@penoff.com wrote: Curious as to the list's opinions on regular Dino oil for use in the 1992 300E. I have run two changes of Mobil1 to quiet the lifters, which it has done. I want to go back to a conventional oil for cost reasons. Not a lot of miles being put on it and a starving college student driving it. I am pretty sure that Tony was running conventional oil in it prior to my purchase as well (Tony?) Thanks, Dan Sent from my iPad ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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I use it in everything except my cdi which requires that expensive esp oil Sent from my iPhone On Feb 13, 2013, at 1:23 PM, Jaime Kopchinski jaime...@gmail.com wrote: Yeah, that or Rotella T. Diesel oil is the new conventional oil for older cars. On Wed, Feb 13, 2013 at 1:27 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin ka...@striplin.netwrote: I would use the delvac 1300 Sent from my iPhone On Feb 13, 2013, at 11:56 AM, Dan Penoff d...@penoff.com wrote: Curious as to the list's opinions on regular Dino oil for use in the 1992 300E. I have run two changes of Mobil1 to quiet the lifters, which it has done. I want to go back to a conventional oil for cost reasons. Not a lot of miles being put on it and a starving college student driving it. I am pretty sure that Tony was running conventional oil in it prior to my purchase as well (Tony?) Thanks, Dan Sent from my iPad ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Jaime Kopchinski http://www.jaimekop.com/ ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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It's geared toward diesels but its perfect in a gasser, probably overkill but that was I just have to stock one oil Sent from my iPhone On Feb 13, 2013, at 1:27 PM, Dan Penoff d...@penoff.com wrote: In a gasser? I thought Delvac was only used in diesels? Dan On Feb 13, 2013, at 1:27 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin ka...@striplin.net wrote: I would use the delvac 1300 Sent from my iPhone On Feb 13, 2013, at 11:56 AM, Dan Penoff d...@penoff.com wrote: Curious as to the list's opinions on regular Dino oil for use in the 1992 300E. I have run two changes of Mobil1 to quiet the lifters, which it has done. I want to go back to a conventional oil for cost reasons. Not a lot of miles being put on it and a starving college student driving it. I am pretty sure that Tony was running conventional oil in it prior to my purchase as well (Tony?) Thanks, Dan Sent from my iPad ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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I would say 10-15k or more. On the fss system like my 99 e430 you use m1 and it starts off at 10k and adjusts up or down depending on driving. I have not tracked the miles on that one just change it when it tells me to Sent from my iPhone On Feb 13, 2013, at 1:38 PM, Dan Penoff d...@penoff.com wrote: So for those of you who are doing Mobil1 in a gasser, what kind if change intervals are you running. 5000? 7500? Thanks, Dan On Feb 13, 2013, at 2:08 PM, Max Dillon meadedil...@bellsouth.net wrote: Only three negatives I can see: lifter noise may return, can't do extended oil change intervals, and slight increase in engine wear. Lifter noise is no big deal, no damage is being done. -- Max Dillon Charleston SC '95 E300, '87 300TD, '73 Balboa 20 Dan Penoff d...@penoff.com wrote: Curious as to the list's opinions on regular Dino oil for use in the 1992 300E. I have run two changes of Mobil1 to quiet the lifters, which it has done. I want to go back to a conventional oil for cost reasons. Not a lot of miles being put on it and a starving college student driving it. I am pretty sure that Tony was running conventional oil in it prior to my purchase as well (Tony?) Thanks, Dan Sent from my iPad ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: I would say 10-15k or more. On the fss system like my 99 e430 you use m1 and it starts off at 10k and adjusts up or down depending on driving. I have not tracked the miles on that one just change it when it tells me to Yes, on my 1999 e320 the FSS starts out at 10,000 and then adjusts. Somebody convinced me last year that it was simply odometer based, but it's gone beyond that. It even extended a few hundred miles when it displayed the add oil message and I added a quart of new oil. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Your 300E has a M103 or M104? I don't remember if the cutoff is 1992 or 1993. Jaime On Wed, Feb 13, 2013 at 2:38 PM, Dan Penoff d...@penoff.com wrote: So for those of you who are doing Mobil1 in a gasser, what kind if change intervals are you running. 5000? 7500? Thanks, Dan On Feb 13, 2013, at 2:08 PM, Max Dillon meadedil...@bellsouth.net wrote: Only three negatives I can see: lifter noise may return, can't do extended oil change intervals, and slight increase in engine wear. Lifter noise is no big deal, no damage is being done. -- Max Dillon Charleston SC '95 E300, '87 300TD, '73 Balboa 20 Dan Penoff d...@penoff.com wrote: Curious as to the list's opinions on regular Dino oil for use in the 1992 300E. I have run two changes of Mobil1 to quiet the lifters, which it has done. I want to go back to a conventional oil for cost reasons. Not a lot of miles being put on it and a starving college student driving it. I am pretty sure that Tony was running conventional oil in it prior to my purchase as well (Tony?) Thanks, Dan Sent from my iPad ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Jaime Kopchinski http://www.jaimekop.com/ ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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It factors in starts and stops engine starts, idle time etc Sent from my iPhone On Feb 13, 2013, at 2:06 PM, Mitch Haley m...@voyager.net wrote: Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: I would say 10-15k or more. On the fss system like my 99 e430 you use m1 and it starts off at 10k and adjusts up or down depending on driving. I have not tracked the miles on that one just change it when it tells me to Yes, on my 1999 e320 the FSS starts out at 10,000 and then adjusts. Somebody convinced me last year that it was simply odometer based, but it's gone beyond that. It even extended a few hundred miles when it displayed the add oil message and I added a quart of new oil. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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The 104 came in the 300e in 93 Sent from my iPhone On Feb 13, 2013, at 2:12 PM, Jaime Kopchinski jaime...@gmail.com wrote: Your 300E has a M103 or M104? I don't remember if the cutoff is 1992 or 1993. Jaime On Wed, Feb 13, 2013 at 2:38 PM, Dan Penoff d...@penoff.com wrote: So for those of you who are doing Mobil1 in a gasser, what kind if change intervals are you running. 5000? 7500? Thanks, Dan On Feb 13, 2013, at 2:08 PM, Max Dillon meadedil...@bellsouth.net wrote: Only three negatives I can see: lifter noise may return, can't do extended oil change intervals, and slight increase in engine wear. Lifter noise is no big deal, no damage is being done. -- Max Dillon Charleston SC '95 E300, '87 300TD, '73 Balboa 20 Dan Penoff d...@penoff.com wrote: Curious as to the list's opinions on regular Dino oil for use in the 1992 300E. I have run two changes of Mobil1 to quiet the lifters, which it has done. I want to go back to a conventional oil for cost reasons. Not a lot of miles being put on it and a starving college student driving it. I am pretty sure that Tony was running conventional oil in it prior to my purchase as well (Tony?) Thanks, Dan Sent from my iPad ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Jaime Kopchinski http://www.jaimekop.com/ ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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M103, I believe. Dan On Feb 13, 2013, at 3:12 PM, Jaime Kopchinski jaime...@gmail.com wrote: Your 300E has a M103 or M104? I don't remember if the cutoff is 1992 or 1993. Jaime On Wed, Feb 13, 2013 at 2:38 PM, Dan Penoff d...@penoff.com wrote: So for those of you who are doing Mobil1 in a gasser, what kind if change intervals are you running. 5000? 7500? Thanks, Dan On Feb 13, 2013, at 2:08 PM, Max Dillon meadedil...@bellsouth.net wrote: Only three negatives I can see: lifter noise may return, can't do extended oil change intervals, and slight increase in engine wear. Lifter noise is no big deal, no damage is being done. -- Max Dillon Charleston SC '95 E300, '87 300TD, '73 Balboa 20 Dan Penoff d...@penoff.com wrote: Curious as to the list's opinions on regular Dino oil for use in the 1992 300E. I have run two changes of Mobil1 to quiet the lifters, which it has done. I want to go back to a conventional oil for cost reasons. Not a lot of miles being put on it and a starving college student driving it. I am pretty sure that Tony was running conventional oil in it prior to my purchase as well (Tony?) Thanks, Dan Sent from my iPad ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Jaime Kopchinski http://www.jaimekop.com/ ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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On Feb 13, 2013 12:19 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin ka...@striplin.net wrote: The 104 came in the 300e in 93 I always remember that the engine change came a year before the badge change to E320, because there is some goofball on the PeachParts forums who insists that his '93 was mislabeled at the factory and should be a 320E. Alex ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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The guy is a moron Sent from my iPhone On Feb 13, 2013, at 3:14 PM, Alex Chamberlain apchamberl...@gmail.com wrote: On Feb 13, 2013 12:19 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin ka...@striplin.net wrote: The 104 came in the 300e in 93 I always remember that the engine change came a year before the badge change to E320, because there is some goofball on the PeachParts forums who insists that his '93 was mislabeled at the factory and should be a 320E. Alex ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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So are you guys saying that an extended interval on the 300E could realistically be 10k? I just checked and we have been doing 7500. I thought it was more like 5k, but I don't do much in the way of work on the car - the youngster does it for the most part unless it's something major. Dan Sent from my iPad On Feb 13, 2013, at 3:06 PM, Mitch Haley m...@voyager.net wrote: Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: I would say 10-15k or more. On the fss system like my 99 e430 you use m1 and it starts off at 10k and adjusts up or down depending on driving. I have not tracked the miles on that one just change it when it tells me to Yes, on my 1999 e320 the FSS starts out at 10,000 and then adjusts. Somebody convinced me last year that it was simply odometer based, but it's gone beyond that. It even extended a few hundred miles when it displayed the add oil message and I added a quart of new oil. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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12,000 + miles, based on analysis by Larry. On Wed, Feb 13, 2013 at 1:38 PM, Dan Penoff d...@penoff.com wrote: So for those of you who are doing Mobil1 in a gasser, what kind if change intervals are you running. 5000? 7500? Thanks, Dan -- OK Don 2001 ML320 2012 Passat TDI DSG 1997 Plymouth Grand Voyager 1957 C182A ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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My thoughts would be the same as with green coolant. AS long as you swap it out religiously, you are probably ok. I have been thinking recently about the models I see on the road for our Tri-star cars. Not a statistically significant example of vergassers over the age of 18 years. I can be certain that any Benz over the age of 21 is going to be a diesel. There are a few really nice looking W126 that are of the 420/560 engines, but most are SD with an occasional SDL. The rare SEC will pop up. IF you see a 201, it is usually 190D, as the 2.3 is busted, or it is newer 2.6. Still see the 300E around, but the C series from the early 90's is becoming rarer and looks like it is a few miles from hitting the knackers or PnP clay 1974 450sl - Frosch - Two tone green 1972 220D - Gump - She is green, simple and ran 1995 E300D - Cleo - Used by the Queen of Denial POS 1987 SDL - Beware Nigerian Scammers On Feb 13, 2013, at 9:56 AM, Dan Penoff wrote: Curious as to the list's opinions on regular Dino oil for use in the 1992 300E. I have run two changes of Mobil1 to quiet the lifters, which it has done. I want to go back to a conventional oil for cost reasons. Not a lot of miles being put on it and a starving college student driving it. I am pretty sure that Tony was running conventional oil in it prior to my purchase as well (Tony?) Thanks, Dan Sent from my iPad ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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I run the diesel oil in Froggy. She is having issue with oil pressure and a thicker oil in her hot engine seems to make her happier. On Feb 13, 2013, at 11:27 AM, Dan Penoff wrote: In a gasser? I thought Delvac was only used in diesels? Dan On Feb 13, 2013, at 1:27 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin ka...@striplin.net wrote: I would use the delvac 1300 Sent from my iPhone On Feb 13, 2013, at 11:56 AM, Dan Penoff d...@penoff.com wrote: Curious as to the list's opinions on regular Dino oil for use in the 1992 300E. I have run two changes of Mobil1 to quiet the lifters, which it has done. I want to go back to a conventional oil for cost reasons. Not a lot of miles being put on it and a starving college student driving it. I am pretty sure that Tony was running conventional oil in it prior to my purchase as well (Tony?) Thanks, Dan Sent from my iPad ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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10k miles. -- Max Dillon Charleston SC '95 E300, '87 300TD, '73 Balboa 20 Dan Penoff d...@penoff.com wrote: So for those of you who are doing Mobil1 in a gasser, what kind if change intervals are you running. 5000? 7500? Thanks, Dan On Feb 13, 2013, at 2:08 PM, Max Dillon meadedil...@bellsouth.net wrote: Only three negatives I can see: lifter noise may return, can't do extended oil change intervals, and slight increase in engine wear. Lifter noise is no big deal, no damage is being done. -- Max Dillon Charleston SC '95 E300, '87 300TD, '73 Balboa 20 Dan Penoff d...@penoff.com wrote: Curious as to the list's opinions on regular Dino oil for use in the 1992 300E. I have run two changes of Mobil1 to quiet the lifters, which it has done. I want to go back to a conventional oil for cost reasons. Not a lot of miles being put on it and a starving college student driving it. I am pretty sure that Tony was running conventional oil in it prior to my purchase as well (Tony?) Thanks, Dan Sent from my iPad ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Dan Penoff wrote: So are you guys saying that an extended interval on the 300E could realistically be 10k? The V6, with fleece filter and 0W40 oil, sure. I had a couple of gallons of 5W40 on hand when I bought the e320 which was due for a change, so I used that, but it's not exactly 'right' for that engine. Has lots of ZDDP and TBN though. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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My ML is running around 10K intervals. Luther KB5QHUForest Park, IL '98 ML320 Max (161,xxx mi) On 2/13/2013 1:52 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: I would say 10-15k or more. On the fss system like my 99 e430 you use m1 and it starts off at 10k and adjusts up or down depending on driving. I have not tracked the miles on that one just change it when it tells me to Sent from my iPhone On Feb 13, 2013, at 1:38 PM, Dan Penoff d...@penoff.com wrote: So for those of you who are doing Mobil1 in a gasser, what kind if change intervals are you running. 5000? 7500? Thanks, Dan On Feb 13, 2013, at 2:08 PM, Max Dillon meadedil...@bellsouth.net wrote: Only three negatives I can see: lifter noise may return, can't do extended oil change intervals, and slight increase in engine wear. Lifter noise is no big deal, no damage is being done. -- Max Dillon Charleston SC '95 E300, '87 300TD, '73 Balboa 20 Dan Penoff d...@penoff.com wrote: Curious as to the list's opinions on regular Dino oil for use in the 1992 300E. I have run two changes of Mobil1 to quiet the lifters, which it has done. I want to go back to a conventional oil for cost reasons. Not a lot of miles being put on it and a starving college student driving it. I am pretty sure that Tony was running conventional oil in it prior to my purchase as well (Tony?) Thanks, Dan Sent from my iPad ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Oil (Dino)
I would use Chevron Delo 15w-40 or Mobil Delvac 1300 15w-40. Never really cared for Rotella. On Wednesday, February 13, 2013, Benz Hogs wrote: My ML is running around 10K intervals. Luther KB5QHUForest Park, IL '98 ML320 Max (161,xxx mi) On 2/13/2013 1:52 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: I would say 10-15k or more. On the fss system like my 99 e430 you use m1 and it starts off at 10k and adjusts up or down depending on driving. I have not tracked the miles on that one just change it when it tells me to Sent from my iPhone On Feb 13, 2013, at 1:38 PM, Dan Penoff d...@penoff.com wrote: So for those of you who are doing Mobil1 in a gasser, what kind if change intervals are you running. 5000? 7500? Thanks, Dan On Feb 13, 2013, at 2:08 PM, Max Dillon meadedil...@bellsouth.net wrote: Only three negatives I can see: lifter noise may return, can't do extended oil change intervals, and slight increase in engine wear. Lifter noise is no big deal, no damage is being done. -- Max Dillon Charleston SC '95 E300, '87 300TD, '73 Balboa 20 Dan Penoff d...@penoff.com wrote: Curious as to the list's opinions on regular Dino oil for use in the 1992 300E. I have run two changes of Mobil1 to quiet the lifters, which it has done. I want to go back to a conventional oil for cost reasons. Not a lot of miles being put on it and a starving college student driving it. I am pretty sure that Tony was running conventional oil in it prior to my purchase as well (Tony?) Thanks, Dan Sent from my iPad __**_ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/**archive/http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/**mailman/listinfo/mercedes_**okiebenz.comhttp://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
