[MBZ] Om617 fitting into W126

2008-08-23 Thread Peter Merle
How difficult will it be to get a manual tranny Om617 ( non -turbo ) to fit
into a W126 ? Here in SA we did not get the 300SD 's and furthur the 300SD
only came in auto tranny. I have a spare OM617 non turbo and gearbox thay I
was thinking of fitting into a 280SE body.

Peter
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Re: [MBZ] Om617 fitting into W126

2008-08-23 Thread Mitch Haley
Peter Merle wrote:
 How difficult will it be to get a manual tranny Om617 ( non -turbo ) to fit
 into a W126 ? Here in SA we did not get the 300SD 's and furthur the 300SD
 only came in auto tranny. I have a spare OM617 non turbo and gearbox thay I
 was thinking of fitting into a 280SE body.

I'm thinking you'd need 300SD front motor mounts (maybe from Rusty), gearshift 
linkages and clutch pedal/cylinder assembly (are those common 126 items in SA?),
a crossmember that puts the tranny mount under the back of the tranny, and a 
driveshaft of the appropriate length. Those last two items might require 
modification/fabrication. Oh, and it might be easiest to use radiator and hoses 
and exhaust parts for a real 300SD so that all the plumbing fits right. (I'd 
probably just have a local fabricator handle the exhaust as a custom job)

Mitch.

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Re: [MBZ] Om617 fitting into W126

2008-08-23 Thread Peter Merle
Will the W123 / or the W126 280SE manual tranny linkages work? 280Se manuals
I believe are available here.
PEter

2008/8/23 Mitch Haley [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 Peter Merle wrote:
  How difficult will it be to get a manual tranny Om617 ( non -turbo ) to
 fit
  into a W126 ? Here in SA we did not get the 300SD 's and furthur the
 300SD
  only came in auto tranny. I have a spare OM617 non turbo and gearbox thay
 I
  was thinking of fitting into a 280SE body.

 I'm thinking you'd need 300SD front motor mounts (maybe from Rusty),
 gearshift
 linkages and clutch pedal/cylinder assembly (are those common 126 items in
 SA?),
 a crossmember that puts the tranny mount under the back of the tranny, and
 a
 driveshaft of the appropriate length. Those last two items might require
 modification/fabrication. Oh, and it might be easiest to use radiator and
 hoses
 and exhaust parts for a real 300SD so that all the plumbing fits right.
 (I'd
 probably just have a local fabricator handle the exhaust as a custom job)

 Mitch.

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Re: [MBZ] Om617 fitting into W126

2008-08-23 Thread Jim Cathey
 Will the W123 / or the W126 280SE manual tranny linkages work? 280Se 
 manuals
 I believe are available here.

Not sure 123 stuff would work without fabrication.  The 280SE
version ought to work just fine.  Mercedes is pretty good that
way.

The 126 speedometer is electronic, your 617 arrangement is
unlikely to be.  You'll need to convert it somehow.  (Tailshaft
housing?)  The 617 tachometer is also different than the 280SE's,
you'll need both it and its amplifier.  Painting correct shift
marks onto its face is optional.

The differential you have may not have the optimum ratio for
a NA 617.  The SD's here were all turbos and as such performed
respectably.  A NA version would be much more sedate, perhaps
too much so if the rear end ratio is very wrong.

The auto tranny cruise control amplifier will have the wrong
feedback values, it'll probably surge.  Ours in the 190D does,
but it's still largely usable.  You just have to avoid gentle
downgrades, or override it with the pedal at those times.

It's a project!

-- Jim


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Re: [MBZ] Om617 fitting into W126

2008-08-23 Thread Trampas
I am not sure but I would love to do it myself. 

My 420SEL has a worn out camshaft and really needs a new head. I do have a
OM617 with automatic but would love a manual OM617 turbo in the car. I
wonder if Kaleb has the parts... 

Trampas

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Subject: [MBZ] Om617 fitting into W126

How difficult will it be to get a manual tranny Om617 ( non -turbo ) to fit
into a W126 ? Here in SA we did not get the 300SD 's and furthur the 300SD
only came in auto tranny. I have a spare OM617 non turbo and gearbox thay I
was thinking of fitting into a 280SE body.

Peter
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Re: [MBZ] Om617 fitting into W126

2008-08-23 Thread Rolf
Peter Merle wrote:
 How difficult will it be to get a manual tranny Om617 ( non -turbo ) to fit
 into a W126 ? Here in SA we did not get the 300SD 's and furthur the 300SD
 only came in auto tranny. I have a spare OM617 non turbo and gearbox thay I
 was thinking of fitting into a 280SE body.

 Peter
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I believe everything except the engine mounts will swap fine. You may 
need to change the driveshaft. One of the guys on the mercedesshop.com 
has a SD with a stick.

-Rolf

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