Re: [MBZ] Opinion pls! on driver ed
Parents are probably the worst people to train their kids to drive, for one thing they have probably picked up a load of bad habits over the years and another problem is subconcious overlooking of mistakes. I guess the question is would people be happy to fly in a plane piloted by someone who was trained by their Mum/Dad/Uncle/etc vs a professional piloting instructor? - Original Message - From: Allan Streib [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Thursday, March 15, 2007 11:28 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Opinion pls! on What are the Odds post Loren Faeth [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: YES! Chuck is right. DT is worthless! PLEASE instruct your kids how to drive, independently of the PC garbage from the schools. Hm. My training was from a private driving school, not the public school program. In fact the public schools do not offer driver training in my community, which is why a private school or parental instruction are the only options. Insurance offers a discount for passing the school program, but none for parental instruction. Allan -- 1983 300D 1966 230 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Opinion pls! on driver ed
Instruction from a private standalone school is fine, but a private company contracted to a PUBLIC school can't teach anything. They have to abide by the public school policies/lawyers. Public school DT in the US is worthless, except to get that insurance discount. As bad as parents are, i'd wager all the parents on this list will make better driving instructors than what is at the local public indoctrination center, oops! I mean school. At 09:08 PM 3/14/2007, you wrote: Parents are probably the worst people to train their kids to drive, for one thing they have probably picked up a load of bad habits over the years and another problem is subconcious overlooking of mistakes. I guess the question is would people be happy to fly in a plane piloted by someone who was trained by their Mum/Dad/Uncle/etc vs a professional piloting instructor? - Original Message - From: Allan Streib [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Thursday, March 15, 2007 11:28 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Opinion pls! on What are the Odds post Loren Faeth [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: YES! Chuck is right. DT is worthless! PLEASE instruct your kids how to drive, independently of the PC garbage from the schools. Hm. My training was from a private driving school, not the public school program. In fact the public schools do not offer driver training in my community, which is why a private school or parental instruction are the only options. Insurance offers a discount for passing the school program, but none for parental instruction. Allan -- 1983 300D 1966 230 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com Loren Faeth
Re: [MBZ] Opinion pls! on driver ed
Yeah I remeber driver ed in school, a car full of kids and a teacher roped in to take us out. Can't remeber learning anything there, however a few one on one lessons with a pro driving instructor taught me a lot, that and riding a motorcycle for a few years. Then again I got my heavy vehicle license by taking the local cop for a spin in an empty truck. Anyway I am planning on getting my kids proper driver education when the time comes, even though my ego and driving record tell me I am a pretty good vehicle operator. - Original Message - From: Loren Faeth [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Thursday, March 15, 2007 1:05 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Opinion pls! on driver ed Instruction from a private standalone school is fine, but a private company contracted to a PUBLIC school can't teach anything. They have to abide by the public school policies/lawyers. Public school DT in the US is worthless, except to get that insurance discount. As bad as parents are, i'd wager all the parents on this list will make better driving instructors than what is at the local public indoctrination center, oops! I mean school.
Re: [MBZ] Opinion pls! on driver ed
Well, I learned to fly from my Dad. The official instructor only gave my hours, I didn't learn anything new from him. The instructor would have ground looped our plane, had Dad not saved the landing. He thought his multi-engine, instrument ratings were hot, but he was no match for conventional gear (real airplanes have tail wheels). I'll take a knowledgeable parent over a cocky 'instructor any day. On 3/14/07, Hendrik Riessen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Parents are probably the worst people to train their kids to drive, for one thing they have probably picked up a load of bad habits over the years and another problem is subconcious overlooking of mistakes. I guess the question is would people be happy to fly in a plane piloted by someone who was trained by their Mum/Dad/Uncle/etc vs a professional piloting instructor? -- OK Don, KD5NRO Norman, OK Even if you're on the right track, you'll get run over if you just sit there. Will Rogers '90 300D, '87 300SDL, '81 240D, '78 450SLC, '97 Ply Grand Voyager
Re: [MBZ] Opinion pls! on driver ed
Don, I agree, but in today's world the number of knowledgeable parents is diminishing and to save the kids it's important to have an alternative. And today, there ain't one If you know of parents who don't know how to train their kids to drive, volunteer to do it. You will save a life...!!! Take care, Chuck Phoenix AZ On Mar 14, 2007, at 9:14 PM, OK Don wrote: Well, I learned to fly from my Dad. The official instructor only gave my hours, I didn't learn anything new from him. The instructor would have ground looped our plane, had Dad not saved the landing. He thought his multi-engine, instrument ratings were hot, but he was no match for conventional gear (real airplanes have tail wheels). I'll take a knowledgeable parent over a cocky 'instructor any day. On 3/14/07, Hendrik Riessen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Parents are probably the worst people to train their kids to drive, for one thing they have probably picked up a load of bad habits over the years and another problem is subconcious overlooking of mistakes. I guess the question is would people be happy to fly in a plane piloted by someone who was trained by their Mum/Dad/Uncle/etc vs a professional piloting instructor? -- OK Don, KD5NRO Norman, OK Even if you're on the right track, you'll get run over if you just sit there. Will Rogers '90 300D, '87 300SDL, '81 240D, '78 450SLC, '97 Ply Grand Voyager ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Opinion pls! on driver ed
I have no problem with parents teaching the children to drive. If the standards for getting a liscense were as high as they should be there would be very few unqualified teachers. Mike - Original Message - From: Hendrik Riessen [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Wednesday, March 14, 2007 10:08 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Opinion pls! on driver ed Parents are probably the worst people to train their kids to drive, for one thing they have probably picked up a load of bad habits over the years and another problem is subconcious overlooking of mistakes. I guess the question is would people be happy to fly in a plane piloted by someone who was trained by their Mum/Dad/Uncle/etc vs a professional piloting instructor? - Original Message - From: Allan Streib [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Thursday, March 15, 2007 11:28 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Opinion pls! on What are the Odds post Loren Faeth [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: YES! Chuck is right. DT is worthless! PLEASE instruct your kids how to drive, independently of the PC garbage from the schools. Hm. My training was from a private driving school, not the public school program. In fact the public schools do not offer driver training in my community, which is why a private school or parental instruction are the only options. Insurance offers a discount for passing the school program, but none for parental instruction. Allan -- 1983 300D 1966 230 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Opinion pls! on driver ed
I think all kids should learn to drive in a muddy field with a car that has too much power. When ya can hold 'er at 70MPH all the way around the field, sideways, you have learned how to control the car in all sorts of skids and slides. That's how I learned. Mike - Original Message - From: Hendrik Riessen [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Wednesday, March 14, 2007 10:58 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Opinion pls! on driver ed Yeah I remeber driver ed in school, a car full of kids and a teacher roped in to take us out. Can't remeber learning anything there, however a few one on one lessons with a pro driving instructor taught me a lot, that and riding a motorcycle for a few years. Then again I got my heavy vehicle license by taking the local cop for a spin in an empty truck. Anyway I am planning on getting my kids proper driver education when the time comes, even though my ego and driving record tell me I am a pretty good vehicle operator. - Original Message - From: Loren Faeth [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Thursday, March 15, 2007 1:05 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Opinion pls! on driver ed Instruction from a private standalone school is fine, but a private company contracted to a PUBLIC school can't teach anything. They have to abide by the public school policies/lawyers. Public school DT in the US is worthless, except to get that insurance discount. As bad as parents are, i'd wager all the parents on this list will make better driving instructors than what is at the local public indoctrination center, oops! I mean school. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Opinion pls! on driver ed
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