Re: [MBZ] Peugeots

2022-07-21 Thread Dimitri Seretakis via Mercedes 
Yes the real Athens!

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> On Jul 21, 2022, at 7:44 PM, Allan Streib  wrote:
> 
> LOL for a second I was thinking Athens GA, and surely the cabs were all 
> Checkers, Crown Vics, or Caprices at that time. You mean the real Athens.
> 
>> On Thu, Jul 21, 2022, at 6:14 PM, Dimitri Seretakis wrote:
>> Growing up in Athens during the seventies and eighties, I saw a lot of 
>> Peugeot diesel taxis, along with W115, W123 and W124 Mercedes as well 
>> as Toyota Corona, VW Jetta, Opel Kadet etc.
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
 On Jul 21, 2022, at 6:05 PM, Allan Streib via Mercedes 
  wrote:
>>> 
>>> I wonder how many Peugeot diesels were ruined with waste oil conversions 
>>> and hood stacks?
>>> 
>>> 
 On Thu, Jul 21, 2022, at 4:36 PM, Kevin Kraly via Mercedes wrote:
 I had a neighbor years ago (late 1980’s)  in SoCal who had a fleet of 
 Peugeot 504 Diesels. He started with a 1979, then he acquired a 1978 
 and finally a 1976 station wagon manny tranny. They were very 
 comfortable and reliable. I wasn’t into Diesels at the time or I would 
 have tried to talk him into selling me one. I did like the body style. 
 They were much cheaper to purchase than a comparable 240D since he was 
 able to purchase the 1978 for $900 in 1987 with under 100K miles. 
 Kevin in Lexington, NC
 
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Re: [MBZ] Peugeots

2022-07-21 Thread Allan Streib via Mercedes 
LOL for a second I was thinking Athens GA, and surely the cabs were all 
Checkers, Crown Vics, or Caprices at that time. You mean the real Athens.

On Thu, Jul 21, 2022, at 6:14 PM, Dimitri Seretakis wrote:
> Growing up in Athens during the seventies and eighties, I saw a lot of 
> Peugeot diesel taxis, along with W115, W123 and W124 Mercedes as well 
> as Toyota Corona, VW Jetta, Opel Kadet etc.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>> On Jul 21, 2022, at 6:05 PM, Allan Streib via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> I wonder how many Peugeot diesels were ruined with waste oil conversions 
>> and hood stacks?
>> 
>> 
>>> On Thu, Jul 21, 2022, at 4:36 PM, Kevin Kraly via Mercedes wrote:
>>> I had a neighbor years ago (late 1980’s)  in SoCal who had a fleet of 
>>> Peugeot 504 Diesels. He started with a 1979, then he acquired a 1978 
>>> and finally a 1976 station wagon manny tranny. They were very 
>>> comfortable and reliable. I wasn’t into Diesels at the time or I would 
>>> have tried to talk him into selling me one. I did like the body style. 
>>> They were much cheaper to purchase than a comparable 240D since he was 
>>> able to purchase the 1978 for $900 in 1987 with under 100K miles. 
>>> Kevin in Lexington, NC
>>> 
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Re: [MBZ] Peugeots

2022-07-21 Thread Karl Wittnebel via Mercedes 
Growing up in Riyadh there were a million 504 diesels from Syria and Turkey
that would come down yearly for the Haj. Definitely a preferred vehicle,
which is really all the endorsement a car needs in retrospect. They would
load them like crazy. A wagon is always attractive but then you give up the
funky humped trunk silhouette. I never saw a wagon over there.

On Thu, Jul 21, 2022, 3:15 PM Dimitri Seretakis via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> Growing up in Athens during the seventies and eighties, I saw a lot of
> Peugeot diesel taxis, along with W115, W123 and W124 Mercedes as well as
> Toyota Corona, VW Jetta, Opel Kadet etc.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> > On Jul 21, 2022, at 6:05 PM, Allan Streib via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> > I wonder how many Peugeot diesels were ruined with waste oil
> conversions and hood stacks?
> >
> >
> >> On Thu, Jul 21, 2022, at 4:36 PM, Kevin Kraly via Mercedes wrote:
> >> I had a neighbor years ago (late 1980’s)  in SoCal who had a fleet of
> >> Peugeot 504 Diesels. He started with a 1979, then he acquired a 1978
> >> and finally a 1976 station wagon manny tranny. They were very
> >> comfortable and reliable. I wasn’t into Diesels at the time or I would
> >> have tried to talk him into selling me one. I did like the body style.
> >> They were much cheaper to purchase than a comparable 240D since he was
> >> able to purchase the 1978 for $900 in 1987 with under 100K miles.
> >> Kevin in Lexington, NC
> >>
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Re: [MBZ] Peugeots

2022-07-21 Thread Karl Wittnebel via Mercedes 
The 240 diesel was a dog. A buddy even turboed one and it still wouldnt get
out of its own way. 6 cylinders I think. Maybe 85hp.

I had a 240 wagon gasser before my 85 td. Honestly it was a better car in
many ways. Primarily because it was simpler and a 5 speed. Less maintenance
for sure. I put an ipd swaybar on it and it cornered great. It was also
possible for a 6'5" person to sleep flat in the back along one side, which
is not possible in the Merc unless you remove the seat bottoms instead of
tilting them.



On Thu, Jul 21, 2022, 11:17 AM dan penoff.com via Mercedes <
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> Much like the Volvo 240s, they did. Lots of them.
>
> -D
>
> > On Jul 21, 2022, at 10:28 AM, Karl Wittnebel via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> > Might have to find myself a 504. I seem to recall they had a diesel.
> >
> > On Mon, Jul 18, 2022, 8:22 AM David Bruckmann via Mercedes <
> > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> >> Not quite as long a run as the even tougher 504, of which more than
> three
> >> million were produced between 1968 and 2006!
> >>
> >> On Mon, Jul 18, 2022, David Bruckmann wrote:
> >>
> >>>
> >>> Although Citroens are dearest to me, I can tell you that there's a
> reason
> >>> Peugeot 504 and 505 models are still running around in Africa and South
> >>> America... VERY tough cars, although the engines can be hit and miss.
> >> Super
> >>> comfortable as well. And when you consider that the 505 debuted *43
> years
> >>> ago* and was in production for 18 years through 1997, all the more
> >>> remarkable.
> >>>
> >>> A scene from Bastille Day in San Francisco, Citroens and Peugeots in
> >>> attendance:
> >>>
> >>> -- next part --
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> >>>
> >>
> http://mail.okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20220718/f97a8a07/attachment.jpeg
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Re: [MBZ] Peugeots

2022-07-21 Thread Dimitri Seretakis via Mercedes 
Growing up in Athens during the seventies and eighties, I saw a lot of Peugeot 
diesel taxis, along with W115, W123 and W124 Mercedes as well as Toyota Corona, 
VW Jetta, Opel Kadet etc.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jul 21, 2022, at 6:05 PM, Allan Streib via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> I wonder how many Peugeot diesels were ruined with waste oil conversions and 
> hood stacks?
> 
> 
>> On Thu, Jul 21, 2022, at 4:36 PM, Kevin Kraly via Mercedes wrote:
>> I had a neighbor years ago (late 1980’s)  in SoCal who had a fleet of 
>> Peugeot 504 Diesels. He started with a 1979, then he acquired a 1978 
>> and finally a 1976 station wagon manny tranny. They were very 
>> comfortable and reliable. I wasn’t into Diesels at the time or I would 
>> have tried to talk him into selling me one. I did like the body style. 
>> They were much cheaper to purchase than a comparable 240D since he was 
>> able to purchase the 1978 for $900 in 1987 with under 100K miles. 
>> Kevin in Lexington, NC
>> 
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Re: [MBZ] Peugeots

2022-07-21 Thread Allan Streib via Mercedes 
I wonder how many Peugeot diesels were ruined with waste oil conversions and 
hood stacks?


On Thu, Jul 21, 2022, at 4:36 PM, Kevin Kraly via Mercedes wrote:
> I had a neighbor years ago (late 1980’s)  in SoCal who had a fleet of 
> Peugeot 504 Diesels. He started with a 1979, then he acquired a 1978 
> and finally a 1976 station wagon manny tranny. They were very 
> comfortable and reliable. I wasn’t into Diesels at the time or I would 
> have tried to talk him into selling me one. I did like the body style. 
> They were much cheaper to purchase than a comparable 240D since he was 
> able to purchase the 1978 for $900 in 1987 with under 100K miles. 
> Kevin in Lexington, NC
>

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Re: [MBZ] Peugeots

2022-07-21 Thread Kevin Kraly via Mercedes 
I had a neighbor years ago (late 1980’s)  in SoCal who had a fleet of Peugeot 
504 Diesels. He started with a 1979, then he acquired a 1978 and finally a 1976 
station wagon manny tranny. They were very comfortable and reliable. I wasn’t 
into Diesels at the time or I would have tried to talk him into selling me one. 
I did like the body style. They were much cheaper to purchase than a comparable 
240D since he was able to purchase the 1978 for $900 in 1987 with under 100K 
miles. 
Kevin in Lexington, NC

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> On Jul 21, 2022, at 1:29 PM, Karl Wittnebel via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Might have to find myself a 504. I seem to recall they had a diesel.
> 
>> On Mon, Jul 18, 2022, 8:22 AM David Bruckmann via Mercedes <
>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>> 
>> Not quite as long a run as the even tougher 504, of which more than three
>> million were produced between 1968 and 2006!
>> 
>>> On Mon, Jul 18, 2022, David Bruckmann wrote:
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Although Citroens are dearest to me, I can tell you that there's a reason
>>> Peugeot 504 and 505 models are still running around in Africa and South
>>> America... VERY tough cars, although the engines can be hit and miss.
>> Super
>>> comfortable as well. And when you consider that the 505 debuted *43 years
>>> ago* and was in production for 18 years through 1997, all the more
>>> remarkable.
>>> 
>>> A scene from Bastille Day in San Francisco, Citroens and Peugeots in
>>> attendance:
>>> 
>>> -- next part --
>>> A non-text attachment was scrubbed...
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>>> Type: image/jpeg
>>> Size: 287246 bytes
>>> Desc: not available
>>> URL: <
>>> 
>> http://mail.okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20220718/f97a8a07/attachment.jpeg
 
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Re: [MBZ] Peugeots

2022-07-21 Thread Allan Streib via Mercedes 
The only French cars I ever saw in the midwest were the 1980s-era Renault-based 
Alliance and Encore that were made by AMC but sold as Renaults. While these 
cars got some good reviews at the time, they were underpowered and didn't sell 
well. I remember them as market failures.

Seeing a Peugeot of any vintage around here is extremely uncommon.


On Thu, Jul 21, 2022, at 1:16 PM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes wrote:
> Much like the Volvo 240s, they did. Lots of them.
>
> -D
>
>> On Jul 21, 2022, at 10:28 AM, Karl Wittnebel via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> Might have to find myself a 504. I seem to recall they had a diesel.
>> 
>> On Mon, Jul 18, 2022, 8:22 AM David Bruckmann via Mercedes <
>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>> 
>>> Not quite as long a run as the even tougher 504, of which more than three
>>> million were produced between 1968 and 2006!
>>> 
>>> On Mon, Jul 18, 2022, David Bruckmann wrote:
>>> 
 
 Although Citroens are dearest to me, I can tell you that there's a reason
 Peugeot 504 and 505 models are still running around in Africa and South
 America... VERY tough cars, although the engines can be hit and miss.
>>> Super
 comfortable as well. And when you consider that the 505 debuted *43 years
 ago* and was in production for 18 years through 1997, all the more
 remarkable.
 
 A scene from Bastille Day in San Francisco, Citroens and Peugeots in
 attendance:
 
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Re: [MBZ] Peugeots

2022-07-21 Thread dan penoff.com via Mercedes 
Much like the Volvo 240s, they did. Lots of them.

-D

> On Jul 21, 2022, at 10:28 AM, Karl Wittnebel via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Might have to find myself a 504. I seem to recall they had a diesel.
> 
> On Mon, Jul 18, 2022, 8:22 AM David Bruckmann via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> 
>> Not quite as long a run as the even tougher 504, of which more than three
>> million were produced between 1968 and 2006!
>> 
>> On Mon, Jul 18, 2022, David Bruckmann wrote:
>> 
>>> 
>>> Although Citroens are dearest to me, I can tell you that there's a reason
>>> Peugeot 504 and 505 models are still running around in Africa and South
>>> America... VERY tough cars, although the engines can be hit and miss.
>> Super
>>> comfortable as well. And when you consider that the 505 debuted *43 years
>>> ago* and was in production for 18 years through 1997, all the more
>>> remarkable.
>>> 
>>> A scene from Bastille Day in San Francisco, Citroens and Peugeots in
>>> attendance:
>>> 
>>> -- next part --
>>> A non-text attachment was scrubbed...
>>> Name: C785467C-B913-4879-8278-19BB4443E549.jpeg
>>> Type: image/jpeg
>>> Size: 287246 bytes
>>> Desc: not available
>>> URL: <
>>> 
>> http://mail.okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20220718/f97a8a07/attachment.jpeg
 
>>> 
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Re: [MBZ] Peugeots

2022-07-21 Thread Karl Wittnebel via Mercedes 
Might have to find myself a 504. I seem to recall they had a diesel.

On Mon, Jul 18, 2022, 8:22 AM David Bruckmann via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> Not quite as long a run as the even tougher 504, of which more than three
> million were produced between 1968 and 2006!
>
> On Mon, Jul 18, 2022, David Bruckmann wrote:
>
> >
> > Although Citroens are dearest to me, I can tell you that there's a reason
> > Peugeot 504 and 505 models are still running around in Africa and South
> > America... VERY tough cars, although the engines can be hit and miss.
> Super
> > comfortable as well. And when you consider that the 505 debuted *43 years
> > ago* and was in production for 18 years through 1997, all the more
> > remarkable.
> >
> > A scene from Bastille Day in San Francisco, Citroens and Peugeots in
> > attendance:
> >
> > -- next part --
> > A non-text attachment was scrubbed...
> > Name: C785467C-B913-4879-8278-19BB4443E549.jpeg
> > Type: image/jpeg
> > Size: 287246 bytes
> > Desc: not available
> > URL: <
> >
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Re: [MBZ] Peugeots

2022-07-18 Thread David Bruckmann via Mercedes 
Not quite as long a run as the even tougher 504, of which more than three
million were produced between 1968 and 2006!

On Mon, Jul 18, 2022, David Bruckmann wrote:

>
> Although Citroens are dearest to me, I can tell you that there's a reason
> Peugeot 504 and 505 models are still running around in Africa and South
> America... VERY tough cars, although the engines can be hit and miss. Super
> comfortable as well. And when you consider that the 505 debuted *43 years
> ago* and was in production for 18 years through 1997, all the more
> remarkable.
>
> A scene from Bastille Day in San Francisco, Citroens and Peugeots in
> attendance:
>
> -- next part --
> A non-text attachment was scrubbed...
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> Size: 287246 bytes
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> >
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Re: [MBZ] Peugeots

2022-07-18 Thread Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes 
Thank you. Thank you very much. 

--FT
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> On Jul 18, 2022, at 9:43 AM, Rick Knoble via Mercedes  
> wrote:
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> I believe Floyd to have that title.
> 
> 
> Rick
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> 
> Looks like Okie Acres East over there.
> 
> AZBob
> 
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>> On Jul 17, 2022, at 9:48 PM, RICK HAWKINS via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> Folks
>> 
>> I drove Peugeots for 20 years
>> 
>> Here’s the best of the last ones I have
>> https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/1454623288319140/
>> 
>> 706-540-3285 after 2 Pm if you need one
>> 
>> I have 4 or 5 left …. Bring a trailer
>> 
>> All have good engines and were running when parked
>> 
>> Xx rick
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Re: [MBZ] Peugeots

2022-07-18 Thread Rick Knoble via Mercedes 
I believe Floyd to have that title.


Rick

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Looks like Okie Acres East over there.

AZBob

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> On Jul 17, 2022, at 9:48 PM, RICK HAWKINS via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
>
> Folks
>
> I drove Peugeots for 20 years
>
> Here’s the best of the last ones I have
> https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/1454623288319140/
>
> 706-540-3285 after 2 Pm if you need one
>
> I have 4 or 5 left …. Bring a trailer
>
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Re: [MBZ] Peugeots

2022-07-18 Thread Bob Rentfro via Mercedes 
Looks like Okie Acres East over there. 

AZBob

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> On Jul 17, 2022, at 9:48 PM, RICK HAWKINS via Mercedes 
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> Folks
> 
> I drove Peugeots for 20 years
> 
> Here’s the best of the last ones I have
> https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/1454623288319140/
> 
> 706-540-3285 after 2 Pm if you need one
> 
> I have 4 or 5 left …. Bring a trailer
> 
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[MBZ] Peugeots

2022-07-17 Thread RICK HAWKINS via Mercedes 
Folks

I drove Peugeots for 20 years

Here’s the best of the last ones I have
https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/1454623288319140/

706-540-3285 after 2 Pm if you need one

I have 4 or 5 left …. Bring a trailer

All have good engines and were running when parked

Xx rick

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[MBZ] peugeots

2009-01-17 Thread Rick Hawkins Java 

Folks,

I noticed the discussions on Peugeots. We drive 2 of the 300td and 2  
Peugeot 505 sw8 cars (gas ZDJL engines.) I've mostly driven peugeots  
since 1985 and about 6 years ago i started running some Mercedes  
diesels mostly on WVO. In my opinion a 505 peugeot is a much lighter  
feeling car than a 300td, has nicer seats, better climate control etc  
than a Benz. Most of the electrics, and fuel injection systems are  
Bosch, so no surprises there. Late model (86-92) peugeots are  
extremely reliable when well maintained. As for parts availability,  
it's a bit sketchy on certain odd things such as SW antenna grommets  
but for the most part, there are a lot of parts and a lot of parts  
cars. This list, peugeo...@yahoogroups.com  is the Peugeot equivalent  
of the MB list.


I guess you have to subscribe at yahoo groups.

 I wheel and deal some Peugeot parts and project cars, myself.




thanks,

xx rick
Rick Hawkins

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