Re: [MBZ] Quick OT Internet Speed Question
Okay. Good info. Let me just ask this: Does anybody here successfully watch TV on their computer using the 1.5 Mbps? I'm talking about stuff from ABC.com or NBC.com, etc. Again, we have a pretty new iMac so the computer wouldn't be a weak link. Brian On Wed, Mar 12, 2008 at 9:34 PM, Alex Chamberlain [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, Mar 12, 2008 at 8:14 PM, Douglas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I don't know I have a feeling that once you go fast its hell to go slower!.. That certainly was the case when I upgraded from a 300 baud modem to 1200. I distinctly remember being amazed that the BBS posts I was reading were scrolling onto the screen faster than I could read them, and having to Ctrl-S/Ctrl-Q them. Alex Chamberlain '87 300D Turbo et al. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Quick OT Internet Speed Question
That certainly was the case when I upgraded from a 300 baud modem to 1200. I distinctly remember being amazed that the BBS posts I was reading were scrolling onto the screen faster than I could read them, and having to Ctrl-S/Ctrl-Q them. I went from a 300 baud acoustic coupler modem straight to a 2400. Then 9600, and finally, 28,800. No need for faster, the POTS lines out here won't even make it to that. (Oh, and I guess the next step was 1,700,000.) Still have all of it, too. (Heck, I still use the 28.8 to fetch e-mail [such as this list's traffic] whenever the microwave link decides to take a day off.) The most satisfying, in a sense, was the 9600 modem. It was used in a synchronous WAN connection using X.25, which was multiplexed and extremely efficient, working in a day when connectivity software was careful with bandwidth. In general it was almost like being at work. (No sound, pictures, or movies being sent around either.) Programs and data files tended to be small, usually tens to hundreds of kilobytes. The bloated browser-based ad-laden crap you use now can even make our wireless link seem slow at times. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Quick OT Internet Speed Question
Jim Cathey wrote: The bloated browser-based ad-laden crap you use now can even make our wireless link seem slow at times. I've found that with some of the Javascript flash heavy sights it is actually the computer's limits and not the connection. I've had flash ads go nuts and take up 100% CPU until I closed that tab in Firefox. On an older computer it is even worse (my computers are 2 years old). John ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Quick OT Internet Speed Question
On an older computer it is even worse (mine are 2 years old). Our _newest_ computers were made in 2000! (But top of the line gear when new, just like our cars!) -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Quick OT Internet Speed Question
Zoltan Finks wrote: We want to lower our bill from the cable company by switching from high speed internet to their lower level one. The lady says its 1.5 Hertz or something, as opposed to the 6 we're getting. She also said the slower is the speed of DSL. Would the lower speed be sufficient for our average use? How long would a, say, 5 meg file take to download? We're talking about a newer iMac. You would barely notice the difference. Especially on a 5mb file. Nowadays you are usually limited by the server (the other person) rather than by the pipe going into your house. John ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Quick OT Internet Speed Question
Should be fine, I have 1.5Mbps DSL and its plenty... At the worst you might have to hit pause and let it preload for awhile. As the others have said the bottleneck is almost never at your end its the supply side. -Curt Date: Thu, 13 Mar 2008 05:19:22 -0700 From: Zoltan Finks [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] Quick OT Internet Speed Question To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Okay. Good info. Let me just ask this: Does anybody here successfully watch TV on their computer using the 1.5 Mbps? I'm talking about stuff from ABC.com or NBC.com, etc. Again, we have a pretty new iMac so the computer wouldn't be a weak link. Brian - Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your homepage. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Quick OT Internet Speed Question
I watch shows on abc using my neighbors shared cable connection via a 300' wireless connection. Once and a while I cannot watch in HD, but most of the time it will load. Luther On Thu, 13 Mar 2008 06:19:22 -0600, Zoltan Finks [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Okay. Good info. Let me just ask this: Does anybody here successfully watch TV on their computer using the 1.5 Mbps? I'm talking about stuff from ABC.com or NBC.com, etc. Again, we have a pretty new iMac so the computer wouldn't be a weak link. Brian -- Luther KB5QHUAlma, Ark '87 300SDL (272,xxx mi) head case '85 Ford F250 6.9 diesel (x58,xxx mi) '82 300CD (166 kmi) '82 300D (74 kmi) getting donor engine-sold '85 300D (280,176) parts car sans engine ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Quick OT Internet Speed Question
On Thu, 13 Mar 2008 10:05:09 -0700 (PDT) Curt Raymond [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Should be fine, I have 1.5Mbps DSL and its plenty... At the worst you might have to hit pause and let it preload for awhile. As the others have said the bottleneck is almost never at your end its the supply side. For this one, the bottleneck is you side: http://adds.aviationweather.gov/satellite/displaySat.php?region=USisingle=mult_bigitype=vis It's the one that regularly peaks at 12 Mbps at work. Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Quick OT Internet Speed Question
We want to lower our bill from the cable company by switching from high speed internet to their lower level one. The lady says its 1.5 Hertz or something, as opposed to the 6 we're getting. She also said the slower is the speed of DSL. Would the lower speed be sufficient for our average use? How long would a, say, 5 meg file take to download? We're talking about a newer iMac. Brian ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Quick OT Internet Speed Question
Zoltan Finks wrote: We want to lower our bill from the cable company by switching from high speed internet to their lower level one. The lady says its 1.5 Hertz or something, as opposed to the 6 we're getting. She also said the slower is the speed of DSL. Would the lower speed be sufficient for our average use? How long would a, say, 5 meg file take to download? We're talking about a newer iMac. You would barely notice the difference. Especially on a 5mb file. Nowadays you are usually limited by the server (the other person) rather than by the pipe going into your house. John ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Quick OT Internet Speed Question
The lady says its 1.5 Hertz or something, as opposed to the 6 we're getting. She also said the slower is the speed of DSL. Mbps, I think. Would the lower speed be sufficient for our average use? How long would a, say, 5 meg file take to download? We're talking about a newer iMac. It can depend. Streaming data rate is one thing, latency (request-response time) is another. That number is almost never pusblished. But lots of folks are quite happy with about 1.5 Mbps. We are. Our service provider meter says we are getting 1.7 Mbps right now, or about 226 kBytes/sec. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Quick OT Internet Speed Question
Zoltan Finks wrote: We want to lower our bill from the cable company by switching from high speed internet to their lower level one. The lady says its 1.5 Hertz or something, as opposed to the 6 we're getting. She also said the slower is the speed of DSL. The old standard used to be a T1 line which is 1.5mb per second. When my EVDO service is working well, I get 800k to 1.1 meg, with bursts to 1.4 or 1.5 meg. I get the idea my local cell tower is served by a single T1 and I've got decent performance when I'm not sharing the tower with anybody else running a data connection. I can download 5-7mb per minute, which seems plenty fast for the stuff I download. Youtube videos download at about 150% of playing speed, so the file is fully cached before I'm done watching it. If you decide to downgrade, run a few tests at speedtest.net or someplace similar, then run it again after the downgrade and see what the difference is. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Quick OT Internet Speed Question
I don't know I have a feeling that once you go fast its hell to go slower!.. Douglas - Original Message - From: Mitch Haley [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Wednesday, March 12, 2008 7:52 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Quick OT Internet Speed Question Zoltan Finks wrote: We want to lower our bill from the cable company by switching from high speed internet to their lower level one. The lady says its 1.5 Hertz or something, as opposed to the 6 we're getting. She also said the slower is the speed of DSL. The old standard used to be a T1 line which is 1.5mb per second. When my EVDO service is working well, I get 800k to 1.1 meg, with bursts to 1.4 or 1.5 meg. I get the idea my local cell tower is served by a single T1 and I've got decent performance when I'm not sharing the tower with anybody else running a data connection. I can download 5-7mb per minute, which seems plenty fast for the stuff I download. Youtube videos download at about 150% of playing speed, so the file is fully cached before I'm done watching it. If you decide to downgrade, run a few tests at speedtest.net or someplace similar, then run it again after the downgrade and see what the difference is. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Quick OT Internet Speed Question
On Wed, 12 Mar 2008 20:14:50 -0700 Douglas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I don't know I have a feeling that once you go fast its hell to go slower!.. I do that every evening when I come home from work. At work, I regularly see 12 megabits/second (Mbps) on fast servers. Downloading software yesterday, I was seeing 0.75 - 1 megabyte/second. Here at home we have the 1.5 Mbps DSL service (recently upgraded from 256 kilobits/s) which actually tests out at 1.1 - 1.3 Mbps because of our distance from the Central Office. Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Quick OT Internet Speed Question
On Wed, Mar 12, 2008 at 8:14 PM, Douglas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I don't know I have a feeling that once you go fast its hell to go slower!.. That certainly was the case when I upgraded from a 300 baud modem to 1200. I distinctly remember being amazed that the BBS posts I was reading were scrolling onto the screen faster than I could read them, and having to Ctrl-S/Ctrl-Q them. Alex Chamberlain '87 300D Turbo et al. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
