Re: WA state safety testing (Was: Re: [MBZ] Re: Who's bright idea was this...)
BiL got a jeep cherokee for free that he is making into a rock crawler. It was hit in the back and the hitch took most of the damage. Being unibody, the insurance folks total the car. BiL gets the car, and proceeds to make it better. Goes to register, and no mention is made of needing or where to go to even bother to get a safety inspection. I suspect they no longer do the inspection On Saturday, July 9, 2005, at 10:08 PM, B Dike wrote: Have the car tested at the Renton test center off I-405. they know how to test diesels. Sit in the car yourself and make sure you carefully set the throttle during the idle test. Some guys put a block under the throttle pedal. Do not use the Bellevue emission testing center, they hate diesels. --- David Brodbeck [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -- Clay Seattle Bioburner 1972 220D - Gump 1995 E300D - Cleo 1987 300SDL - POS - DOA
Re: [MBZ] Re: Who's bright idea was this...
Patrol sort of stopped doing inspections unless there is a safety need (salvage titles) or they hate your state. Mostly all they want is for you to register the car and have title. At least that was the routine when the POS SDL was headed here in 2003. On Thursday, July 7, 2005, at 12:10 PM, David Brodbeck wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: How often do you get regular inspections? In Washington state we only have emissions inspections on a regular basis, and then only in some counties. A full inspection is only done in certain instances, and that by the State Patrol only. I'm gonna ask, since I might be moving out there soon...would my non-working parking brake cause my car to fail inspection in WA? I'm not sure yet whether I'll bring it or sell it before I go, but if I decide to bring it that would be a concern. ___ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] For new parts see www.buymbparts.com For repairs see www.oldworldauto.com To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- Clay Seattle Bioburner 1972 220D - Gump 1995 E300D - Cleo 1987 300SDL - POS - DOA
Re: WA state emissions testing (Was: Re: [MBZ] Re: Who's bright idea was this...)
redghost wrote: Bend over because the folks running the testing facility are morons when it comes to diesel. Run some BioD for a tank or two to reduce emissions, and toss some purge or stuff in as well. Then, when you get it tested, make sure they calibrate the computer and probe. Sometimes they get 90% followed by 2% when you go back through five minutes later Thanks for the advice. I'm still not sure if I'll bring the car or not. I may sell it before I go. My roommate is moving with me, and taking two cars would be a bit awkward. Also, my car's got a bit of rust on it, so its value would essentially drop to zero as soon as I took it somewhere where the roads aren't salted.
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Maybe I should clarify my gripe... tintint law itself isn't a problem. The way that it is being enforced I disagree with. Some states have cards with text of varying level of contrast on them. Based on which line is readable you can tell the tint level (or at least legal or not... been a while since I read about that). The law went into effect with no notice, and no grace period. Nobody has the machines to certify, etc. Nobody can get their regular inspection sticker now because the regular inspection sticker can't be given out if the tint sticker is given out, etc. Basically its overkill for the level the problem is... John
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The tint law has been in effect in NC for years. It is largely ignored by the officers, however. My 300TD was a Georgia car, with windows that were darn near black. I drove it that way for a year, with a state inspection sticker on the window, and was not stopped. But I decided not to press my luck, and removed the tint. That was a *JOB* btw. I'm not a law enforcement officer either, but understand their point in spades. For the folks who want a cooler car in the parking lot, get a cover. JMO Richard --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Fighting crime?, like folks driving too aggresively and cutting off people and speeding through school zones endangering kids, and other CRIME? Put yourself in their shoes and make a traffic stop on some jackass driving like an idiot with 4 or 5 others idiots in the car who just about ran over YOUR mother. Then walk up next to that car without being able to see in and see the dangers inside. Some type of reasonable compromise should be reachable. A limit on the amount of tint is reasonable. Ken (not a law enforcement officer) In a message dated 7/7/2005 7:24:32 AM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: From: John Robbins [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [MBZ] Who's bright idea was this... To: Mercedes mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Shouldn't they be busy fighting CRIME grrr... http://www.tintcenter.com/news/187.html John ___ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] For new parts see www.buymbparts.com For repairs see www.oldworldauto.com To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
Re: [MBZ] Re: Who's bright idea was this...
On Thu, 7 Jul 2005 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Fighting crime?, like folks driving too aggresively and cutting off people and speeding through school zones endangering kids, and other CRIME? Put yourself in their shoes and make a traffic stop on some jackass driving like an idiot with 4 or 5 others idiots in the car who just about ran over YOUR mother. Then walk up next to that car without being able to see in and see the dangers Well said. I wish cops would go after the type of people you described more than just speeders. I also agree that it is reasonable to have a tint limit... inside. Some type of reasonable compromise should be reachable. A limit on the amount of tint is reasonable. Yes. But it should not be so poorly implemented. It is pretty easy to tell if tint is illegally dark... ticket and move on. Yearly certification is not IMO the way it should be done and what I was griping about. John
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I don't think it's as easy to really be fair about the amount of tint that is legal. I think at night it is more difficult than during the day. Obviously the cost to equip each officer with the light standard device would be prohibitive too. Were I in your legislature I would have included the test in the regular inspection. If you want to make money doing the regular inspection, you must invest in the new device. Then, everyone is doing the same thing. I also believe that this subject didn't come up in the legislature because they were bored and looking for something to make a new law about. No doubt the LE lobby made it a priority for thier efforts. Why? Probably because it was getting out of hand. Without being too much of a bleeding heart, I can't imagine stopping some of the jerks I see on our roadways in the middle of the night, in the middle of nowhere, with back up even only 5 minutes away. That takes guts. Give them every chance to go home to their families after each shift. How often do you get regular inspections? In Washington state we only have emissions inspections on a regular basis, and then only in some counties. A full inspection is only done in certain instances, and that by the State Patrol only. Is your regular inspection done by any business who gets a license to? Ken In a message dated 7/7/2005 10:13:42 AM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: From: John Robbins [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] Re: Who's bright idea was this... To: Mercedes mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed On Thu, 7 Jul 2005 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Fighting crime?, like folks driving too aggresively and cutting off people and speeding through school zones endangering kids, and other CRIME? Put yourself in their shoes and make a traffic stop on some jackass driving like an idiot with 4 or 5 others idiots in the car who just about ran over YOUR mother. Then walk up next to that car without being able to see in and see the dangers Well said. I wish cops would go after the type of people you described more than just speeders. I also agree that it is reasonable to have a tint limit... inside. Some type of reasonable compromise should be reachable. A limit on the amount of tint is reasonable. Yes. But it should not be so poorly implemented. It is pretty easy to tell if tint is illegally dark... ticket and move on. Yearly certification is not IMO the way it should be done and what I was griping about. John
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[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: How often do you get regular inspections? In Washington state we only have emissions inspections on a regular basis, and then only in some counties. A full inspection is only done in certain instances, and that by the State Patrol only. I'm gonna ask, since I might be moving out there soon...would my non-working parking brake cause my car to fail inspection in WA? I'm not sure yet whether I'll bring it or sell it before I go, but if I decide to bring it that would be a concern.
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On Thu, 7 Jul 2005 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I don't think it's as easy to really be fair about the amount of tint that is legal. I think at night it is more difficult than during the day. Obviously the cost to equip each officer with the light standard device would be prohibitive too. At night I think if there is any tint its going to be pretty hard to see in... I still think its possible to use the business card light dectector method as its cheap and should be accurate enough. Were I in your legislature I would have included the test in the regular inspection. If you want to make money doing the regular inspection, you must invest in the new device. Then, everyone is doing the same thing. Thats what they did... only problem is nobody makes money on the inspections... see below. I also believe that this subject didn't come up in the legislature because they were bored and looking for something to make a new law about. No doubt the LE lobby made it a priority for thier efforts. Why? Probably because it was getting out of hand. Without being too much of a bleeding heart, I can't imagine stopping some of the jerks I see on our roadways in the middle of the night, in the middle of nowhere, with back up even only 5 minutes away. That takes guts. Give them every chance to go home to their families after each shift. I'm not LE, but my Mom and Step-dad are... the topic has never come up at dinner, but I've never heard them gripe about tinted windows... I'm not saying it wasn't a problem, or couldn't be a problem... How often do you get regular inspections? In Washington state we only have emissions inspections on a regular basis, and then only in some counties. A full inspection is only done in certain instances, and that by the State Patrol only. Is your regular inspection done by any business who gets a license to? Our inspections are yearly, all counties, mandatory, etc. Cost $5. They consist of checking the windshield for cracks in the line of sight, all exterior lights function properly, horn works, and windshield wipers work. Done by any business that gets the license... John
WA state emissions testing (Was: Re: [MBZ] Re: Who's bright idea was this...)
Kevin wrote: On Thu, Jul 07, 2005 at 04:35:01PM -0400, David Brodbeck wrote: Good to know. What about emissions? How strict are they on tampering? Would a missing ALDA cap be a disqualification? From what I recall, emissions testing on diesels varies by county. The county that seattle is in (King?) required testing from what I recall, but they were more interested in opacity than anything. I'd wager that a missing cap isn't something that will cause problems provided they don't have a reason to go hunting. My 190D, being a 2.2 five speed, doesn't have an ALDA, and was registered in a county that did not do emissions testing on diesels. You should probably tell the list where you are planning on moving so that someone from that county can give you more specific details. It'd be King county.
[MBZ] Re: Who's bright idea was this...
If you got inspected, and if they checked it, yes they would make you fix it. I've only taken one vehicle through the process and it was pretty basic. They checked the Vin # on the post and the vin stamped under the hood. Thanks for stopping by, have a nice day. That's not to say on a slow day they might not check more, but it was a simple process that I observed. I wouldn't worry too much about it. The reason I needed inspected was the car had been part of a bankruptcy proceeding and didn't have a proper title. When I brought a car in from out of state, twice now, there was no inspection at all. Since the titles were in order they simply transferred them to a WA state title in the office with no other problems. Ken In a message dated 7/7/2005 2:05:59 PM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: From: David Brodbeck [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] Re: Who's bright idea was this... To: Mercedes mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: How often do you get regular inspections? In Washington state we only have emissions inspections on a regular basis, and then only in some counties. A full inspection is only done in certain instances, and that by the State Patrol only. I'm gonna ask, since I might be moving out there soon...would my non-working parking brake cause my car to fail inspection in WA? I'm not sure yet whether I'll bring it or sell it before I go, but if I decide to bring it that would be a concern.
