Re: [MBZ] Removal of center vent servo in 1983 300TD w/o taking apart the dash
andrew strasfogel wrote: I can't seem to find the article on the procedure describing how small-handed individuals could R/R a broken center dash vent servo in a 123 300D, CD or TD without needing to completely take apart the entire dash. IIRC, this involves removing the glove box and being prepared to have one or both hands scraped raw. Just found this on the MBCA forum today (but dated 7/30/05) from Paul Persico: >> vacuum actuators can be removed without removing the dash. << The center nozzle actuator can be accessed by removing the glove box, the right center nozzle and the rubber hood that supplies the center nozzles. The defroster nozzle flap actuator is somewhat more difficult(and is most likely the problem). To do this the instrument panel and both the panels in the driver's side knee well must be removed. The blanket below the instrument panel needs to be moved aside. The reason I say that the defroster nozzle flap actuator is most likely the problem is that that's where the cleaner used to clean the temp sensor seems to accumulate. It doesn't make any sense to me but that's what I was told AND what I've experienced first hand. It pools in there and the rubber deteriorates. This actuator has two positions. One section is provided with vacuum T'd off of the center nozzle flap actuator. You can check for leaks by MightyVacing the at the vacuum solenoids in the center console.: Marshall -- Marshall Booth (who doesn't respond to unsigned questions) "der Dieseling Doktor" [EMAIL PROTECTED] '87 300TD 181Kmi,'87 190D 2.5 199Kmi, '84 190D 2.2 227Kmi, '85 190D 2.0 159Kmi, '87 190D 2.5 turbo 234kmi Diesel Technical Advisor MBCA, member GWSection http://www.dhc.net/~pmhack/mercedes/mbooth1.htm
Re: [MBZ] Removal of center vent servo in 1983 300TD w/o taking apart the dash
And this one: The rubber cover between the center vent and the box??? Can you or anyone else expand on that? I was just in there and don't recall seeing anything that helps me understand where you are headed there. I'm sure if I take a second look it will clear up, but more info would be very welcome. The duct between the air box and the vents is actually a rectangular shape. It's connected between the two by a rubber sleeve that you can carefully push back out of the way to gain access to the area where the lever is. When you say "box" do you mean the evaporator box? Where the coil is?? I should ask, where is the servo? Is it below the vent? Behind it? Off to the right/left? You can *almost* get to this area by removing the glove compartment liner and going in from that direction. I've replaced the vacuum actuator this way, but I don't advise it for the faint of heart or the large of hand. I still have the scars to prove it. I was being stubborn because I was absolutely NOT going to R&R the dash pad to get to the actuator. I'll poke my head in there this evening and see what happens. It will make sense once you get a look at things. Dan Penoff -- Marshall Booth (who doesn't respond to unsigned questions) "der Dieseling Doktor" [EMAIL PROTECTED] '87 300TD 181Kmi,'87 190D 2.5 199Kmi, '84 190D 2.2 227Kmi, '85 190D 2.0 159Kmi, '87 190D 2.5 turbo 234kmi Diesel Technical Advisor MBCA, member GWSection http://www.dhc.net/~pmhack/mercedes/mbooth1.htm
Re: [MBZ] Removal of center vent servo in 1983 300TD w/o taking apart the dash
andrew strasfogel wrote: I can't seem to find the article on the procedure describing how small-handed individuals could R/R a broken center dash vent servo in a 123 300D, CD or TD without needing to completely take apart the entire dash. IIRC, this involves removing the glove box and being prepared to have one or both hands scraped raw. This is the post I recall: The vacuum actuator is in front (forward) of the center vents. In other words it's between the vents and the firewall, making access to it nearly impossible short of pulling the dash pad. I tried it from both sides, with the cluster removed and from the glovebox hole. No deal. I'm open to suggestions (other than my "pencil prop"). Dan Penoff Marshall -- Marshall Booth (who doesn't respond to unsigned questions) "der Dieseling Doktor" [EMAIL PROTECTED] '87 300TD 181Kmi,'87 190D 2.5 199Kmi, '84 190D 2.2 227Kmi, '85 190D 2.0 159Kmi, '87 190D 2.5 turbo 234kmi Diesel Technical Advisor MBCA, member GWSection http://www.dhc.net/~pmhack/mercedes/mbooth1.htm
Re: [MBZ] Removal of center vent servo in 1983 300TD w/o taking apart the dash
andrew strasfogel wrote: I can't seem to find the article on the procedure describing how small-handed individuals could R/R a broken center dash vent servo in a 123 300D, CD or TD without needing to completely take apart the entire dash. IIRC, this involves removing the glove box and being prepared to have one or both hands scraped raw. Dan Penoff described such a procedure as I recall. I'll look and see if I can find a copy. Marshall -- Marshall Booth (who doesn't respond to unsigned questions) "der Dieseling Doktor" [EMAIL PROTECTED] '87 300TD 181Kmi,'87 190D 2.5 199Kmi, '84 190D 2.2 227Kmi, '85 190D 2.0 159Kmi, '87 190D 2.5 turbo 234kmi Diesel Technical Advisor MBCA, member GWSection http://www.dhc.net/~pmhack/mercedes/mbooth1.htm
Re: [MBZ] Removal of center vent servo in 1983 300TD w/o taking apart the dash
Andrew, The procedure described here is for the right and left side ring removal.. Maybe it applies to the center also. 83-150.pdf Description: Adobe PDF document Chuck On Monday, August 8, 2005, at 12:24 PM, andrew strasfogel wrote: Thanks, Chuck, but there was a narrative that described just how to go about this unauthorized procedure and what tools were needed...
Re: [MBZ] Removal of center vent servo in 1983 300TD w/o taking apart the dash
There are no levers in the Type III climate control system. The round vents swivel but even when open there is no air coming through on any setting. On 8/8/05, Anthony Galioto <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Did you ever try moving the lever under the center duct to the left? > Anthony > > On 8/8/05, Chuck Landenberger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Andrew wrote: > > " IIRC, this involves removing the glove box and being prepared to have > > one or both hands scraped raw." > > > > That's all you need to know... > > > > But, you might find some additional help at: > > > > http://skinnerbox.steaky.org/Service/W123/Index/Groups/ > > 83ClimateControlSystem.htm > > > > You're on for a cerveza whenever. You going to be at TOR? > > > > Take care, > > > > Chuck > > Phoenix, AZ > > 1980 300SD > > > > > > Andrew > > > 1983 300TD > > > Never blows air through the center vents. > > > > > > ___ > > > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > For new parts see www.buymbparts.com > > > For repairs see www.oldworldauto.com > > > > > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > > > http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net > > > > > > ___ > > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > For new parts see www.buymbparts.com > > For repairs see www.oldworldauto.com > > > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > > http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net > > > > ___ > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > For new parts see www.buymbparts.com > For repairs see www.oldworldauto.com > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net >
Re: [MBZ] Removal of center vent servo in 1983 300TD w/o taking apart the dash
Thanks, Chuck, but there was a narrative that described just how to go about this unauthorized procedure and what tools were needed... We may attend the annual picnic but I'm not sure about the driving events at TOR. On 8/8/05, Chuck Landenberger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Andrew wrote: > " IIRC, this involves removing the glove box and being prepared to have > one or both hands scraped raw." > > That's all you need to know... > > But, you might find some additional help at: > > http://skinnerbox.steaky.org/Service/W123/Index/Groups/ > 83ClimateControlSystem.htm > > You're on for a cerveza whenever. You going to be at TOR? > > Take care, > > Chuck > Phoenix, AZ > 1980 300SD > > > > Andrew > > 1983 300TD > > Never blows air through the center vents. > > > > ___ > > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > For new parts see www.buymbparts.com > > For repairs see www.oldworldauto.com > > > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > > http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net > > > ___ > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > For new parts see www.buymbparts.com > For repairs see www.oldworldauto.com > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net >
Re: [MBZ] Removal of center vent servo in 1983 300TD w/o taking apart the dash
Did you ever try moving the lever under the center duct to the left? Anthony On 8/8/05, Chuck Landenberger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Andrew wrote: > " IIRC, this involves removing the glove box and being prepared to have > one or both hands scraped raw." > > That's all you need to know... > > But, you might find some additional help at: > > http://skinnerbox.steaky.org/Service/W123/Index/Groups/ > 83ClimateControlSystem.htm > > You're on for a cerveza whenever. You going to be at TOR? > > Take care, > > Chuck > Phoenix, AZ > 1980 300SD > > > > Andrew > > 1983 300TD > > Never blows air through the center vents. > > > > ___ > > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > For new parts see www.buymbparts.com > > For repairs see www.oldworldauto.com > > > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > > http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net > > > ___ > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > For new parts see www.buymbparts.com > For repairs see www.oldworldauto.com > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net >
Re: [MBZ] Removal of center vent servo in 1983 300TD w/o taking apart the dash
Andrew wrote: " IIRC, this involves removing the glove box and being prepared to have one or both hands scraped raw." That's all you need to know... But, you might find some additional help at: http://skinnerbox.steaky.org/Service/W123/Index/Groups/ 83ClimateControlSystem.htm You're on for a cerveza whenever. You going to be at TOR? Take care, Chuck Phoenix, AZ 1980 300SD Andrew 1983 300TD Never blows air through the center vents. ___ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] For new parts see www.buymbparts.com For repairs see www.oldworldauto.com To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net
[MBZ] Removal of center vent servo in 1983 300TD w/o taking apart the dash
I can't seem to find the article on the procedure describing how small-handed individuals could R/R a broken center dash vent servo in a 123 300D, CD or TD without needing to completely take apart the entire dash. IIRC, this involves removing the glove box and being prepared to have one or both hands scraped raw. Andrew 1983 300TD Never blows air through the center vents.
