Re: [MBZ] S600 eBay Deal upe1ujyz

2013-12-31 Thread Hendrik and Fay

Ahh you be wanting the V10 for extra giddy up and go.

Hendrik
who does not own a V10

On 31/12/13 15:00, Mitch Haley wrote:

Dan Penoff wrote:
I remember when they came out, but I have no interest in them so I 
never paid any attention.


Well, maybe if they had a TDI version in this country, or if somebody 
wanted to give me a Phaeton with an unhappy engine and a Toerag TDI 
that some fool rolled at freeway speeds in the snow...


Mitch




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Re: [MBZ] S600 eBay Deal upe1ujyz

2013-12-30 Thread Dan Penoff
What's so special about a VW Phaeton?

Don't think I've ever seen one in person.

Dan

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 On Dec 29, 2013, at 9:42 PM, Mitch Haley m...@voyager.net wrote:
 
 For comparison, there are 6 VW Phaetons on eBay right now, all are V8s, and 
 only
 one has a current bid less than the buy it now on the S600.
 
 
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Re: [MBZ] S600 eBay Deal upe1ujyz

2013-12-30 Thread Alex Chamberlain
On Mon, Dec 30, 2013 at 4:51 AM, Dan Penoff d...@penoff.com wrote:

 What's so special about a VW Phaeton?



You're kidding, right?  Every car guy has to know about the Phaeton.  It's
VWAG's W140 combined with the original BMW 750iL, only more so.  Massively
overengineered, poorly marketed in the US, a sales flop, and incredibly
cheap on the used market but a total money pit unless you can DIY and buy
parts at wholesale.

Alex
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Re: [MBZ] S600 eBay Deal upe1ujyz

2013-12-30 Thread Dieselhead

On Mon, Dec 30, 2013 at 4:51 AM, Dan Penoff d...@penoff.com wrote:


 What's so special about a VW Phaeton?




You're kidding, right?  Every car guy has to know about the Phaeton.  It's
VWAG's W140 combined with the original BMW 750iL, only more so.  Massively
overengineered, poorly marketed in the US, a sales flop, and incredibly
cheap on the used market but a total money pit unless you can DIY and buy
parts at wholesale.

Alex
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 What the? is VW thinking, trying to make a fattylac?  GM screwed 
them up plenty already.  No wonder Vdubs are a POS anymore.   They 
are supposed to be simple, folks cars, easy to work on, cheap to buy, 
cheap to own, cheap to operate, cheap to fix.   That is part of why 
bugs were so popular.


The other part was because they dared to be different, had great 
advertising by DDB, emphasizing the differences, and they were so 
homely they were cute.   It was the only thing to do after the mule 
died  Think small  I have a bunch of those ads I saved from my 
desk surroundings in college, along with toaster tank BMW ads and the 
MB 108 ad that was also brilliant.  some people think buying a house 
is the most important investment they will ever make


A VW fattylac deserves to be a resounding flop.

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Re: [MBZ] S600 eBay Deal upe1ujyz

2013-12-30 Thread Dan Penoff
I remember when they came out, but I have no interest in them so I never paid 
any attention.

Sent from my iPad

On Dec 30, 2013, at 10:36 PM, Dieselhead 126die...@gmail.com wrote:

 On Mon, Dec 30, 2013 at 4:51 AM, Dan Penoff d...@penoff.com wrote:
 
 What's so special about a VW Phaeton?
 You're kidding, right?  Every car guy has to know about the Phaeton.  It's
 VWAG's W140 combined with the original BMW 750iL, only more so.  Massively
 overengineered, poorly marketed in the US, a sales flop, and incredibly
 cheap on the used market but a total money pit unless you can DIY and buy
 parts at wholesale.
 
 Alex
 ___
 What the? is VW thinking, trying to make a fattylac?  GM screwed them up 
 plenty already.  No wonder Vdubs are a POS anymore.   They are supposed to be 
 simple, folks cars, easy to work on, cheap to buy, cheap to own, cheap to 
 operate, cheap to fix.   That is part of why bugs were so popular.
 
 The other part was because they dared to be different, had great advertising 
 by DDB, emphasizing the differences, and they were so homely they were cute.  
  It was the only thing to do after the mule died  Think small  I have a 
 bunch of those ads I saved from my desk surroundings in college, along with 
 toaster tank BMW ads and the MB 108 ad that was also brilliant.  some people 
 think buying a house is the most important investment they will ever make
 
 A VW fattylac deserves to be a resounding flop.
 
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Re: [MBZ] S600 eBay Deal upe1ujyz

2013-12-30 Thread Mitch Haley

Dan Penoff wrote:

I remember when they came out, but I have no interest in them so I never paid 
any attention.


Well, maybe if they had a TDI version in this country, or if somebody wanted to 
give me a Phaeton with an unhappy engine and a Toerag TDI that some fool rolled 
at freeway speeds in the snow...


Mitch

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Re: [MBZ] S600 eBay Deal upe1ujyz

2013-12-29 Thread Mitch Haley

For comparison, there are 6 VW Phaetons on eBay right now, all are V8s, and only
one has a current bid less than the buy it now on the S600.


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Re: [MBZ] S600 eBay Deal upe1ujyz

2013-12-29 Thread Alex Chamberlain
On Dec 29, 2013 6:54 PM, Mitch Haley m...@voyager.net wrote:

 For comparison, there are 6 VW
 Phaetons on eBay right now, all are
 V8s, and only
 one has a current bid less than the
 buy it now on the S600.

They're both money pits, but I'd rather have the Phaeton--it's rare enough
to be a future classic.  Gotta have the W-12 if you're going to bother,
though.

Alex
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