Re: [MBZ] Seat repair again
Egg-crate sleeping bag mat is the way to go. I also used a thin closed-cell foam pad under the two layers of egg-crate on the rear seat of my brother's 75 300D. Get them at Target or K-Mart, the ones at Wally World are too cheesy. Cut to fit just larger than the springs with the "points" up, then fit another peice on top, points down, large enough to wrap around the front edge and fold under -- it needs to stick out an inch and a half or so -- as close to the size of the original pad as possible (you can use the cover as a pattern). Get a picking out needle at the craft store and sew and glue the overlapped part down to hold shape. A chunk of thin (3/8") closed cell foam pad underneath won't hurt, and you can use it to raise the sides, too. Won't be perfect, but beats sitting on the springs six ways to sunday! Peter
Re: [MBZ] Seat repair again
What I meant by bolstering the sides is just to add some of the same padding material on the sides to sort of shape it like the horsehair pad. I assume, looking at the horsehair pad that the sides and front were thicker than the centre portion. I'm not looking to make modern Recaro seats out of the remains of my old seat. Randy B -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Sunil Hari Sent: Thursday, June 01, 2006 4:18 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Seat repair again Any upholstery shop should be able to fix MB-Tex passably well. Also, I don't recommend side bolstering - the MB-Tex has acquired a certain shape after 30 years. To try and change that is inviting tears and general disaster. On 6/1/06, R A Bennell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > No, they are not all that expensive, if I recall. I just wondered if I > could actually improve it with modern stuff. > I'm also in the situation where I will ultimately need to replace the seat > upholstery as there is already one small > hole in the MB Tex from the spring rubbing where the horsehair had > disintigrated. I am reluctant to change the > upholstery for fear the color won't quite match and am prepared to live > with the fairly minor damage for now. If > and when I do that, I will think harder about putting the original style > horsehair back in. Momentarily, I am just > trying to make the driver's seat more comfortable and not do it any more > harm. I'm not a radical but I am not a > purist. I don't object to changes if they are equal or better than the > original and don't make it look silly. > > Randy B > > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of andrew strasfogel > Sent: Thursday, June 01, 2006 3:23 PM > To: Mercedes Discussion List > Subject: Re: [MBZ] Seat repair again > > > Randy, what's wrong with ordering an OEM pad from Rusty? Are they that > expensive? Yours is a great looking W115 300D so why do something > un-original when fixing it? > > On 6/1/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > Randy, > >One thing to keep in mind - When you are assembling things - make > sure > > you include additional padding on each side of the seat - you want your > > butt > > to be *cradled* in the middle of the seat - else you'll be sliding back > > and > > forth. The tendency to make the surface close to flat will result in an > > uncomfortable seating position - > > > > Good luck - > > > > Sincerely, > > Larry T ('74 911, '67 MGB, 91 300D Turbo, 78 240D) > > > > A Blood Test for your oil - www.youroil.net > > For Test Results http://members.rennlist.com/oil > > Weber Carb Stuff http://members.rennlist.com/webercarbs > > http://members.rennlist.com/my_911/Index.htm For my Paint Job Info > > - Original Message - > > From: "R A Bennell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > To: "Mercedes Discussion List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Sent: Thursday, June 01, 2006 12:57 PM > > Subject: [MBZ] Seat repair again > > > > > > >I finally hauled the driver's seat out of my 76 300D last night and > > >partially dismantled it. The spring base seems > > > intact but has quite a bit of surface rust on it. I assume it had no > > paint > > > of any sort from the factory and this is > > > just the result of 30 year's exposure to humidity etc. Horsehair pad > is > > > toast of course which was the reason for > > > looking into this issue. I have decided not to obtain a new horsehair > > pad > > > and am going the "new" route. My thought > > > was to use a piece of carpet to insulate the new replacement padding > > stuff > > > that I picked up at Wally Mart. Can't > > > recall the name but there was mention of a writeup about seat repair > on > > > here a while back and that fibrous plasticy > > > stuff is what the fellow used. I am now thinking I may find some sort > of > > > light canvas type material and use it to > > > wrap over the piece of carpet to hold it in place and to permit me to > > use > > > a spray adhesive to hold the fibrous > > > stuff in place. In the writeup the fellow used pool noodles cut down > to > > > bolster the sides. I'm thinking that the > > > fibrous stuff should be sufficient if I glue some more onto the sides > > of > > > the larger piece to provide the amount of > > > bolster needed. There does not seem to
Re: [MBZ] Seat repair again
Any upholstery shop should be able to fix MB-Tex passably well. Also, I don't recommend side bolstering - the MB-Tex has acquired a certain shape after 30 years. To try and change that is inviting tears and general disaster. On 6/1/06, R A Bennell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: No, they are not all that expensive, if I recall. I just wondered if I could actually improve it with modern stuff. I'm also in the situation where I will ultimately need to replace the seat upholstery as there is already one small hole in the MB Tex from the spring rubbing where the horsehair had disintigrated. I am reluctant to change the upholstery for fear the color won't quite match and am prepared to live with the fairly minor damage for now. If and when I do that, I will think harder about putting the original style horsehair back in. Momentarily, I am just trying to make the driver's seat more comfortable and not do it any more harm. I'm not a radical but I am not a purist. I don't object to changes if they are equal or better than the original and don't make it look silly. Randy B -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of andrew strasfogel Sent: Thursday, June 01, 2006 3:23 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Seat repair again Randy, what's wrong with ordering an OEM pad from Rusty? Are they that expensive? Yours is a great looking W115 300D so why do something un-original when fixing it? On 6/1/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Randy, >One thing to keep in mind - When you are assembling things - make sure > you include additional padding on each side of the seat - you want your > butt > to be *cradled* in the middle of the seat - else you'll be sliding back > and > forth. The tendency to make the surface close to flat will result in an > uncomfortable seating position - > > Good luck - > > Sincerely, > Larry T ('74 911, '67 MGB, 91 300D Turbo, 78 240D) > > A Blood Test for your oil - www.youroil.net > For Test Results http://members.rennlist.com/oil > Weber Carb Stuff http://members.rennlist.com/webercarbs > http://members.rennlist.com/my_911/Index.htm For my Paint Job Info > - Original Message - > From: "R A Bennell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "Mercedes Discussion List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Thursday, June 01, 2006 12:57 PM > Subject: [MBZ] Seat repair again > > > >I finally hauled the driver's seat out of my 76 300D last night and > >partially dismantled it. The spring base seems > > intact but has quite a bit of surface rust on it. I assume it had no > paint > > of any sort from the factory and this is > > just the result of 30 year's exposure to humidity etc. Horsehair pad is > > toast of course which was the reason for > > looking into this issue. I have decided not to obtain a new horsehair > pad > > and am going the "new" route. My thought > > was to use a piece of carpet to insulate the new replacement padding > stuff > > that I picked up at Wally Mart. Can't > > recall the name but there was mention of a writeup about seat repair on > > here a while back and that fibrous plasticy > > stuff is what the fellow used. I am now thinking I may find some sort of > > light canvas type material and use it to > > wrap over the piece of carpet to hold it in place and to permit me to > use > > a spray adhesive to hold the fibrous > > stuff in place. In the writeup the fellow used pool noodles cut down to > > bolster the sides. I'm thinking that the > > fibrous stuff should be sufficient if I glue some more onto the sides > of > > the larger piece to provide the amount of > > bolster needed. There does not seem to be much bolster in the original > > horsehair padding. I have not yet decided > > whether I should try to stuff pool noodle material into the spring base. > > It actually seems to be keeping my rear > > off of the floor as it is and I don't want to make the seat too hard or > to > > high as the steering wheel will become > > more difficult to slide under. > > So, any comment from those that have done this? > > > > Randy B > > > > > > > > ___ > > http://www.striplin.net > > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > > http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net > > > > > > ___ > http://www.striplin.net > For new pa
Re: [MBZ] Seat repair again
No, they are not all that expensive, if I recall. I just wondered if I could actually improve it with modern stuff. I'm also in the situation where I will ultimately need to replace the seat upholstery as there is already one small hole in the MB Tex from the spring rubbing where the horsehair had disintigrated. I am reluctant to change the upholstery for fear the color won't quite match and am prepared to live with the fairly minor damage for now. If and when I do that, I will think harder about putting the original style horsehair back in. Momentarily, I am just trying to make the driver's seat more comfortable and not do it any more harm. I'm not a radical but I am not a purist. I don't object to changes if they are equal or better than the original and don't make it look silly. Randy B -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of andrew strasfogel Sent: Thursday, June 01, 2006 3:23 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Seat repair again Randy, what's wrong with ordering an OEM pad from Rusty? Are they that expensive? Yours is a great looking W115 300D so why do something un-original when fixing it? On 6/1/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Randy, >One thing to keep in mind - When you are assembling things - make sure > you include additional padding on each side of the seat - you want your > butt > to be *cradled* in the middle of the seat - else you'll be sliding back > and > forth. The tendency to make the surface close to flat will result in an > uncomfortable seating position - > > Good luck - > > Sincerely, > Larry T ('74 911, '67 MGB, 91 300D Turbo, 78 240D) > > A Blood Test for your oil - www.youroil.net > For Test Results http://members.rennlist.com/oil > Weber Carb Stuff http://members.rennlist.com/webercarbs > http://members.rennlist.com/my_911/Index.htm For my Paint Job Info > - Original Message - > From: "R A Bennell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "Mercedes Discussion List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Thursday, June 01, 2006 12:57 PM > Subject: [MBZ] Seat repair again > > > >I finally hauled the driver's seat out of my 76 300D last night and > >partially dismantled it. The spring base seems > > intact but has quite a bit of surface rust on it. I assume it had no > paint > > of any sort from the factory and this is > > just the result of 30 year's exposure to humidity etc. Horsehair pad is > > toast of course which was the reason for > > looking into this issue. I have decided not to obtain a new horsehair > pad > > and am going the "new" route. My thought > > was to use a piece of carpet to insulate the new replacement padding > stuff > > that I picked up at Wally Mart. Can't > > recall the name but there was mention of a writeup about seat repair on > > here a while back and that fibrous plasticy > > stuff is what the fellow used. I am now thinking I may find some sort of > > light canvas type material and use it to > > wrap over the piece of carpet to hold it in place and to permit me to > use > > a spray adhesive to hold the fibrous > > stuff in place. In the writeup the fellow used pool noodles cut down to > > bolster the sides. I'm thinking that the > > fibrous stuff should be sufficient if I glue some more onto the sides > of > > the larger piece to provide the amount of > > bolster needed. There does not seem to be much bolster in the original > > horsehair padding. I have not yet decided > > whether I should try to stuff pool noodle material into the spring base. > > It actually seems to be keeping my rear > > off of the floor as it is and I don't want to make the seat too hard or > to > > high as the steering wheel will become > > more difficult to slide under. > > So, any comment from those that have done this? > > > > Randy B > > > > > > > > ___ > > http://www.striplin.net > > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > > http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net > > > > > > ___ > http://www.striplin.net > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net > ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net
Re: [MBZ] Seat repair again
Randy, what's wrong with ordering an OEM pad from Rusty? Are they that expensive? Yours is a great looking W115 300D so why do something un-original when fixing it? On 6/1/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Randy, One thing to keep in mind - When you are assembling things - make sure you include additional padding on each side of the seat - you want your butt to be *cradled* in the middle of the seat - else you'll be sliding back and forth. The tendency to make the surface close to flat will result in an uncomfortable seating position - Good luck - Sincerely, Larry T ('74 911, '67 MGB, 91 300D Turbo, 78 240D) A Blood Test for your oil - www.youroil.net For Test Results http://members.rennlist.com/oil Weber Carb Stuff http://members.rennlist.com/webercarbs http://members.rennlist.com/my_911/Index.htm For my Paint Job Info - Original Message - From: "R A Bennell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Mercedes Discussion List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, June 01, 2006 12:57 PM Subject: [MBZ] Seat repair again >I finally hauled the driver's seat out of my 76 300D last night and >partially dismantled it. The spring base seems > intact but has quite a bit of surface rust on it. I assume it had no paint > of any sort from the factory and this is > just the result of 30 year's exposure to humidity etc. Horsehair pad is > toast of course which was the reason for > looking into this issue. I have decided not to obtain a new horsehair pad > and am going the "new" route. My thought > was to use a piece of carpet to insulate the new replacement padding stuff > that I picked up at Wally Mart. Can't > recall the name but there was mention of a writeup about seat repair on > here a while back and that fibrous plasticy > stuff is what the fellow used. I am now thinking I may find some sort of > light canvas type material and use it to > wrap over the piece of carpet to hold it in place and to permit me to use > a spray adhesive to hold the fibrous > stuff in place. In the writeup the fellow used pool noodles cut down to > bolster the sides. I'm thinking that the > fibrous stuff should be sufficient if I glue some more onto the sides of > the larger piece to provide the amount of > bolster needed. There does not seem to be much bolster in the original > horsehair padding. I have not yet decided > whether I should try to stuff pool noodle material into the spring base. > It actually seems to be keeping my rear > off of the floor as it is and I don't want to make the seat too hard or to > high as the steering wheel will become > more difficult to slide under. > So, any comment from those that have done this? > > Randy B > > > > ___ > http://www.striplin.net > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net > ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net
Re: [MBZ] Seat repair again
Randy, One thing to keep in mind - When you are assembling things - make sure you include additional padding on each side of the seat - you want your butt to be *cradled* in the middle of the seat - else you'll be sliding back and forth. The tendency to make the surface close to flat will result in an uncomfortable seating position - Good luck - Sincerely, Larry T ('74 911, '67 MGB, 91 300D Turbo, 78 240D) A Blood Test for your oil - www.youroil.net For Test Results http://members.rennlist.com/oil Weber Carb Stuff http://members.rennlist.com/webercarbs http://members.rennlist.com/my_911/Index.htm For my Paint Job Info - Original Message - From: "R A Bennell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Mercedes Discussion List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, June 01, 2006 12:57 PM Subject: [MBZ] Seat repair again I finally hauled the driver's seat out of my 76 300D last night and partially dismantled it. The spring base seems intact but has quite a bit of surface rust on it. I assume it had no paint of any sort from the factory and this is just the result of 30 year's exposure to humidity etc. Horsehair pad is toast of course which was the reason for looking into this issue. I have decided not to obtain a new horsehair pad and am going the "new" route. My thought was to use a piece of carpet to insulate the new replacement padding stuff that I picked up at Wally Mart. Can't recall the name but there was mention of a writeup about seat repair on here a while back and that fibrous plasticy stuff is what the fellow used. I am now thinking I may find some sort of light canvas type material and use it to wrap over the piece of carpet to hold it in place and to permit me to use a spray adhesive to hold the fibrous stuff in place. In the writeup the fellow used pool noodles cut down to bolster the sides. I'm thinking that the fibrous stuff should be sufficient if I glue some more onto the sides of the larger piece to provide the amount of bolster needed. There does not seem to be much bolster in the original horsehair padding. I have not yet decided whether I should try to stuff pool noodle material into the spring base. It actually seems to be keeping my rear off of the floor as it is and I don't want to make the seat too hard or to high as the steering wheel will become more difficult to slide under. So, any comment from those that have done this? Randy B ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net
Re: [MBZ] Seat repair again
Go to the Walmart and by those floaty styra foam things the kids use in the pools, noodles they are called. Cut them up and stuff them between all the springs.. Helps\ Tom - Original Message - From: "Sunil Hari" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Mercedes Discussion List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, June 01, 2006 1:34 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Seat repair again Go to Meijer or Wal-Mart and buy a twin bed-size egg-crate mattress pad. The size happens to be -exactly- the right size for restuffing a 115 seat. One pad should be enough to restuff both passenger seats and the bench seat in the back (but you'll be out of foam before you redo the rear seat backrest, which will probably be fine anyway). I did this repair two years ago with great success - seats felt better than any other 115 seat I've plunked down in. They, along with the engine, were the best parts of my 240D. On 6/1/06, R A Bennell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I finally hauled the driver's seat out of my 76 300D last night and partially dismantled it. The spring base seems intact but has quite a bit of surface rust on it. I assume it had no paint of any sort from the factory and this is just the result of 30 year's exposure to humidity etc. Horsehair pad is toast of course which was the reason for looking into this issue. I have decided not to obtain a new horsehair pad and am going the "new" route. My thought was to use a piece of carpet to insulate the new replacement padding stuff that I picked up at Wally Mart. Can't recall the name but there was mention of a writeup about seat repair on here a while back and that fibrous plasticy stuff is what the fellow used. I am now thinking I may find some sort of light canvas type material and use it to wrap over the piece of carpet to hold it in place and to permit me to use a spray adhesive to hold the fibrous stuff in place. In the writeup the fellow used pool noodles cut down to bolster the sides. I'm thinking that the fibrous stuff should be sufficient if I glue some more onto the sides of the larger piece to provide the amount of bolster needed. There does not seem to be much bolster in the original horsehair padding. I have not yet decided whether I should try to stuff pool noodle material into the spring base. It actually seems to be keeping my rear off of the floor as it is and I don't want to make the seat too hard or to high as the steering wheel will become more difficult to slide under. So, any comment from those that have done this? Randy B ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- Sunil Hari 1992 300D 2.5T - 286Kmi. [EMAIL PROTECTED] 513-205-7474 ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net
Re: [MBZ] Seat repair again
Go to Meijer or Wal-Mart and buy a twin bed-size egg-crate mattress pad. The size happens to be -exactly- the right size for restuffing a 115 seat. One pad should be enough to restuff both passenger seats and the bench seat in the back (but you'll be out of foam before you redo the rear seat backrest, which will probably be fine anyway). I did this repair two years ago with great success - seats felt better than any other 115 seat I've plunked down in. They, along with the engine, were the best parts of my 240D. On 6/1/06, R A Bennell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I finally hauled the driver's seat out of my 76 300D last night and partially dismantled it. The spring base seems intact but has quite a bit of surface rust on it. I assume it had no paint of any sort from the factory and this is just the result of 30 year's exposure to humidity etc. Horsehair pad is toast of course which was the reason for looking into this issue. I have decided not to obtain a new horsehair pad and am going the "new" route. My thought was to use a piece of carpet to insulate the new replacement padding stuff that I picked up at Wally Mart. Can't recall the name but there was mention of a writeup about seat repair on here a while back and that fibrous plasticy stuff is what the fellow used. I am now thinking I may find some sort of light canvas type material and use it to wrap over the piece of carpet to hold it in place and to permit me to use a spray adhesive to hold the fibrous stuff in place. In the writeup the fellow used pool noodles cut down to bolster the sides. I'm thinking that the fibrous stuff should be sufficient if I glue some more onto the sides of the larger piece to provide the amount of bolster needed. There does not seem to be much bolster in the original horsehair padding. I have not yet decided whether I should try to stuff pool noodle material into the spring base. It actually seems to be keeping my rear off of the floor as it is and I don't want to make the seat too hard or to high as the steering wheel will become more difficult to slide under. So, any comment from those that have done this? Randy B ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- Sunil Hari 1992 300D 2.5T - 286Kmi. [EMAIL PROTECTED] 513-205-7474
[MBZ] Seat repair again
I finally hauled the driver's seat out of my 76 300D last night and partially dismantled it. The spring base seems intact but has quite a bit of surface rust on it. I assume it had no paint of any sort from the factory and this is just the result of 30 year's exposure to humidity etc. Horsehair pad is toast of course which was the reason for looking into this issue. I have decided not to obtain a new horsehair pad and am going the "new" route. My thought was to use a piece of carpet to insulate the new replacement padding stuff that I picked up at Wally Mart. Can't recall the name but there was mention of a writeup about seat repair on here a while back and that fibrous plasticy stuff is what the fellow used. I am now thinking I may find some sort of light canvas type material and use it to wrap over the piece of carpet to hold it in place and to permit me to use a spray adhesive to hold the fibrous stuff in place. In the writeup the fellow used pool noodles cut down to bolster the sides. I'm thinking that the fibrous stuff should be sufficient if I glue some more onto the sides of the larger piece to provide the amount of bolster needed. There does not seem to be much bolster in the original horsehair padding. I have not yet decided whether I should try to stuff pool noodle material into the spring base. It actually seems to be keeping my rear off of the floor as it is and I don't want to make the seat too hard or to high as the steering wheel will become more difficult to slide under. So, any comment from those that have done this? Randy B