Re: [MBZ] Shop is filling up
On December 15, 2014 at 2:50 AM fmiser via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Poison _might_ diminish the rats population - but it will almost certainly diminish their natural predators which can make the problem worse. Death from secondhand warfarin poisoning? While I wouldn't choose to eat the flesh of a rodent that died from Warfarin myself, is it really that bad? Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Shop is filling up
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Re: [MBZ] Shop is filling up
Our cat died from eating a poisoned rodent, but I have no idea what the poison was. She came in and went into convulsions, vomited, and died. On Mon, Dec 15, 2014 at 5:51 AM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: On December 15, 2014 at 2:50 AM fmiser via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Poison _might_ diminish the rats population - but it will almost certainly diminish their natural predators which can make the problem worse. Death from secondhand warfarin poisoning? While I wouldn't choose to eat the flesh of a rodent that died from Warfarin myself, is it really that bad? Mitch. -- OK Don NSA: The only branch of government that actually listens to US citizens! There are three kinds of men: The ones that learns by reading. The few who learn by observation. The rest of them have to pee on the electric fence for themselves. WILL ROGERS, *The Manly Wisdom of Will Rogers* 2013 F150, 18 mpg 2012 Passat TDI DSG, 44 mpg 1957 C182A, 12 mpg - but at 150 mph! ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Shop is filling up
For the snowmobiles during the summer I put yogurt cups with mothballs on the floorboards under the tarp. Haven't had problems with mice since I started doing that. Last spring I sprayed the engine on one machine with WD-40, just hosed it all down. It smoked and stank a little when I started it a couple weeks ago but it looks perfect. Moisture buildup under the tarps makes the engine tin look like hell... -Curt From: Mitch Haley via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Sunday, December 14, 2014 10:31 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Shop is filling up What happens if you put poison blocks next to the tires? Mitch. On December 14, 2014 at 6:05 PM Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Starting to fill up with cars. I'm going to have to build another shop at some point. Btw I leave the hoods up to cut down on rats nests. I need to work on the doors to keep mice out of the shop. I discovered a rats nest under the hood of the first car in within a couple of weeks. Started leaving the hoods up and so far they have not appear to be interested in the engine compartments. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Shop is filling up
fmiser wrote: Poison _might_ diminish the rats population - but it will almost certainly diminish their natural predators which can make the problem worse. Mitch wrote: Death from secondhand warfarin poisoning? While I wouldn't choose to eat the flesh of a rodent that died from Warfarin myself, is it really that bad? Maybe - maybe not. A fox, owl, or hawk will eat dozens of rodents, and they seek the slow and weak ones - or poisoned ones. If it eats a couple poisoned rodent's it will likely die and now there is one less predator eating dozens of rodents. I don't fully agree with this article, but it has some data. http://www.huffingtonpost.com/alison-hermance/wildcare-test-results-show_b_4907573.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Shop is filling up
The alternative is a bazillion mice/rats... Our camp gets a good dose of decon every fall. At home I use snap traps and ultrasonic repellers. I turn the repellers off in the spring and back on in the fall when the critters are looking for a warm place. The article below is of course somewhat biased, if they only see sick animals 100% of them are sick... -Curt From: fmiser via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Monday, December 15, 2014 4:31 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Shop is filling up fmiser wrote: Poison _might_ diminish the rats population - but it will almost certainly diminish their natural predators which can make the problem worse. Mitch wrote: Death from secondhand warfarin poisoning? While I wouldn't choose to eat the flesh of a rodent that died from Warfarin myself, is it really that bad? Maybe - maybe not. A fox, owl, or hawk will eat dozens of rodents, and they seek the slow and weak ones - or poisoned ones. If it eats a couple poisoned rodent's it will likely die and now there is one less predator eating dozens of rodents. I don't fully agree with this article, but it has some data. http://www.huffingtonpost.com/alison-hermance/wildcare-test-results-show_b_4907573.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
[MBZ] Shop is filling up
Starting to fill up with cars. I'm going to have to build another shop at some point. Btw I leave the hoods up to cut down on rats nests. I need to work on the doors to keep mice out of the shop. I discovered a rats nest under the hood of the first car in within a couple of weeks. Started leaving the hoods up and so far they have not appear to be interested in the engine compartments. -- next part -- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: image1.JPG Type: image/jpeg Size: 141202 bytes Desc: not available URL: http://mail.okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20141214/49ebe2a0/attachment.jpe -- next part -- Sent from my iPhone ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Shop is filling up
What happens if you put poison blocks next to the tires? Mitch. On December 14, 2014 at 6:05 PM Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Starting to fill up with cars. I'm going to have to build another shop at some point. Btw I leave the hoods up to cut down on rats nests. I need to work on the doors to keep mice out of the shop. I discovered a rats nest under the hood of the first car in within a couple of weeks. Started leaving the hoods up and so far they have not appear to be interested in the engine compartments. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Shop is filling up
The place didn't come with a herd of feral cats? On Sun, Dec 14, 2014 at 9:31 PM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: What happens if you put poison blocks next to the tires? Mitch. On December 14, 2014 at 6:05 PM Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Starting to fill up with cars. I'm going to have to build another shop at some point. Btw I leave the hoods up to cut down on rats nests. I need to work on the doors to keep mice out of the shop. I discovered a rats nest under the hood of the first car in within a couple of weeks. Started leaving the hoods up and so far they have not appear to be interested in the engine compartments. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. -- OK Don NSA: The only branch of government that actually listens to US citizens! There are three kinds of men: The ones that learns by reading. The few who learn by observation. The rest of them have to pee on the electric fence for themselves. WILL ROGERS, *The Manly Wisdom of Will Rogers* 2013 F150, 18 mpg 2012 Passat TDI DSG, 44 mpg 1957 C182A, 12 mpg - but at 150 mph! ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Shop is filling up
I got a big jumbo pack of just one bite, kills them quick. House had mice, found most or all of their holes and sealed them up and used the blocks, have not seen any signs of them in the house. Need to do the same in the shop. That other 115 I moved today had a massive nest from some sort of animal under the hood. The entire drivers side of the engine compartment was tightly packed with leaves. I cleaned all that out before attempting to start it because I did not want the cool wires on the glow plugs setting the leaves on fire. No wires were chewed but whatever was living under there did chew the entire positive battery connection off, damnedest thing I have seen. That is a big chunk of metal. Sent from my iPhone On Dec 14, 2014, at 9:31 PM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: What happens if you put poison blocks next to the tires? Mitch. On December 14, 2014 at 6:05 PM Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Starting to fill up with cars. I'm going to have to build another shop at some point. Btw I leave the hoods up to cut down on rats nests. I need to work on the doors to keep mice out of the shop. I discovered a rats nest under the hood of the first car in within a couple of weeks. Started leaving the hoods up and so far they have not appear to be interested in the engine compartments. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Shop is filling up
Well we have our 3 outside that may be helping keeping them from coming in the house. They eat 1-2 a day. I need to lock them up in the shop for a few days. Sent from my iPhone On Dec 14, 2014, at 9:32 PM, OK Don via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: The place didn't come with a herd of feral cats? On Sun, Dec 14, 2014 at 9:31 PM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: What happens if you put poison blocks next to the tires? Mitch. On December 14, 2014 at 6:05 PM Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Starting to fill up with cars. I'm going to have to build another shop at some point. Btw I leave the hoods up to cut down on rats nests. I need to work on the doors to keep mice out of the shop. I discovered a rats nest under the hood of the first car in within a couple of weeks. Started leaving the hoods up and so far they have not appear to be interested in the engine compartments. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. -- OK Don NSA: The only branch of government that actually listens to US citizens! There are three kinds of men: The ones that learns by reading. The few who learn by observation. The rest of them have to pee on the electric fence for themselves. WILL ROGERS, *The Manly Wisdom of Will Rogers* 2013 F150, 18 mpg 2012 Passat TDI DSG, 44 mpg 1957 C182A, 12 mpg - but at 150 mph! ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Shop is filling up
Sounds like pack rats. I went to get some truck parts many years ago in the FLint hills of KS. It was maybe within 60 miles of Manhattan. Every truck had pack rat nests under the hood and each rat I saw run out was probably 4 to 8 lb. as big as a cat. You need a couple of rat terriers or jack russell terriers. They will get rid of the rats. Its what they were born to do. The pack of barn cats will take care of the meeses. I got a big jumbo pack of just one bite, kills them quick. House had mice, found most or all of their holes and sealed them up and used the blocks, have not seen any signs of them in the house. Need to do the same in the shop. That other 115 I moved today had a massive nest from some sort of animal under the hood. The entire drivers side of the engine compartment was tightly packed with leaves. I cleaned all that out before attempting to start it because I did not want the cool wires on the glow plugs setting the leaves on fire. No wires were chewed but whatever was living under there did chew the entire positive battery connection off, damnedest thing I have seen. That is a big chunk of metal. Sent from my iPhone ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Shop is filling up
Kaleb wrote: I leave the hoods up to cut down on rats nests. Mitch wrote: What happens if you put poison blocks next to the tires? Poison _might_ diminish the rats population - but it will almost certainly diminish their natural predators which can make the problem worse. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.