Re: [MBZ] Shop is filling up

2014-12-15 Thread Mitch Haley via Mercedes

 On December 15, 2014 at 2:50 AM fmiser via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com
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 Poison _might_ diminish the rats population - but it will almost
 certainly diminish their natural predators which can make the
 problem worse.
 
Death from secondhand warfarin poisoning?
While I wouldn't choose to eat the flesh of a rodent that died from Warfarin
myself, is it really that bad?
 
Mitch.
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Re: [MBZ] Shop is filling up

2014-12-15 Thread Mitch Haley via Mercedes
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Re: [MBZ] Shop is filling up

2014-12-15 Thread OK Don via Mercedes
Our cat died from eating a poisoned rodent, but I have no idea what the
poison was. She came in and went into convulsions, vomited, and died.

On Mon, Dec 15, 2014 at 5:51 AM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes 
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  On December 15, 2014 at 2:50 AM fmiser via Mercedes 
 mercedes@okiebenz.com
  wrote:
 
 
  Poison _might_ diminish the rats population - but it will almost
  certainly diminish their natural predators which can make the
  problem worse.

 Death from secondhand warfarin poisoning?
 While I wouldn't choose to eat the flesh of a rodent that died from
 Warfarin
 myself, is it really that bad?

 Mitch.



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Re: [MBZ] Shop is filling up

2014-12-15 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes
For the snowmobiles during the summer I put yogurt cups with mothballs on the 
floorboards under the tarp. Haven't had problems with mice since I started 
doing that.
Last spring I sprayed the engine on one machine with WD-40, just hosed it all 
down. It smoked and stank a little when I started it a couple weeks ago but it 
looks perfect. Moisture buildup under the tarps makes the engine tin look like 
hell...
-Curt
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 Sent: Sunday, December 14, 2014 10:31 PM
 Subject: Re: [MBZ] Shop is filling up
   
What happens if you put poison blocks next to the tires?
Mitch. 



 On December 14, 2014 at 6:05 PM Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes
 mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:


 Starting to fill up with cars. I'm going to have to build another shop at some
 point. Btw I leave the hoods up to cut down on rats nests. I need to work on
 the doors to keep mice out of the shop. I discovered a rats nest under the
 hood of the first car in within a couple of weeks. Started leaving the hoods
 up and so far they have not appear to be interested in the engine
 compartments.

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Re: [MBZ] Shop is filling up

2014-12-15 Thread fmiser via Mercedes
  fmiser wrote:
 
  Poison _might_ diminish the rats population - but it will almost
  certainly diminish their natural predators which can make the
  problem worse.

 Mitch wrote:
  
 Death from secondhand warfarin poisoning?
 While I wouldn't choose to eat the flesh of a rodent that died
 from Warfarin myself, is it really that bad?

Maybe - maybe not.  

A fox, owl, or hawk will eat dozens of rodents, and they seek the
slow and weak ones - or poisoned ones.  If it eats a couple
poisoned rodent's it will likely die and now there is one less
predator eating dozens of rodents.


I don't fully agree with this article, but it has some data.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/alison-hermance/wildcare-test-results-show_b_4907573.html

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Re: [MBZ] Shop is filling up

2014-12-15 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes
The alternative is a bazillion mice/rats... Our camp gets a good dose of decon 
every fall. At home I use snap traps and ultrasonic repellers. I turn the 
repellers off in the spring and back on in the fall when the critters are 
looking for a warm place.
The article below is of course somewhat biased, if they only see sick animals 
100% of them are sick...

-Curt
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 Sent: Monday, December 15, 2014 4:31 PM
 Subject: Re: [MBZ] Shop is filling up
   
  fmiser wrote:
 
  Poison _might_ diminish the rats population - but it will almost
  certainly diminish their natural predators which can make the
  problem worse.

 Mitch wrote:
  
 Death from secondhand warfarin poisoning?
 While I wouldn't choose to eat the flesh of a rodent that died
 from Warfarin myself, is it really that bad?

Maybe - maybe not.  

A fox, owl, or hawk will eat dozens of rodents, and they seek the
slow and weak ones - or poisoned ones.  If it eats a couple
poisoned rodent's it will likely die and now there is one less
predator eating dozens of rodents.


I don't fully agree with this article, but it has some data.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/alison-hermance/wildcare-test-results-show_b_4907573.html



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[MBZ] Shop is filling up

2014-12-14 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes
Starting to fill up with cars. I'm going to have to build another shop at some 
point.  Btw I leave the hoods up to cut down on rats nests. I need to work on 
the doors to keep mice out of the shop. I discovered a rats nest under the hood 
of the first car in within a couple of weeks. Started leaving the hoods up and 
so far they have not appear to be interested in the engine compartments. 

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Re: [MBZ] Shop is filling up

2014-12-14 Thread Mitch Haley via Mercedes
What happens if you put poison blocks next to the tires?
Mitch. 

 On December 14, 2014 at 6:05 PM Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes
 mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:


 Starting to fill up with cars. I'm going to have to build another shop at some
 point. Btw I leave the hoods up to cut down on rats nests. I need to work on
 the doors to keep mice out of the shop. I discovered a rats nest under the
 hood of the first car in within a couple of weeks. Started leaving the hoods
 up and so far they have not appear to be interested in the engine
 compartments.

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Re: [MBZ] Shop is filling up

2014-12-14 Thread OK Don via Mercedes
The place didn't come with a herd of feral cats?

On Sun, Dec 14, 2014 at 9:31 PM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes 
mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:

 What happens if you put poison blocks next to the tires?
 Mitch.

  On December 14, 2014 at 6:05 PM Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes
  mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:
 
 
  Starting to fill up with cars. I'm going to have to build another shop
 at some
  point. Btw I leave the hoods up to cut down on rats nests. I need to
 work on
  the doors to keep mice out of the shop. I discovered a rats nest under
 the
  hood of the first car in within a couple of weeks. Started leaving the
 hoods
  up and so far they have not appear to be interested in the engine
  compartments.

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Re: [MBZ] Shop is filling up

2014-12-14 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes
I got a big jumbo pack of just one bite, kills them quick. House had mice, 
found most or all of their holes and sealed them up and used the blocks, have 
not seen any signs of them in the house. Need to do the same in the shop. That 
other 115 I moved today had a massive nest from some sort of animal under the 
hood. The entire drivers side of the engine compartment was tightly packed with 
leaves. I cleaned all that out before attempting to start it because I did not 
want the cool wires on the glow plugs setting the leaves on fire. No wires were 
chewed but whatever was living under there did chew the entire positive battery 
connection off, damnedest thing I have seen. That is a big chunk of metal.

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 On Dec 14, 2014, at 9:31 PM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com 
 wrote:
 
 What happens if you put poison blocks next to the tires?
 Mitch. 
 
 On December 14, 2014 at 6:05 PM Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes
 mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:
 
 
 Starting to fill up with cars. I'm going to have to build another shop at 
 some
 point. Btw I leave the hoods up to cut down on rats nests. I need to work on
 the doors to keep mice out of the shop. I discovered a rats nest under the
 hood of the first car in within a couple of weeks. Started leaving the hoods
 up and so far they have not appear to be interested in the engine
 compartments.
 
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Re: [MBZ] Shop is filling up

2014-12-14 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes
Well we have our 3 outside that may be helping keeping them from coming in the 
house. They eat 1-2 a day. I need to lock them up in the shop for a few days.

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 On Dec 14, 2014, at 9:32 PM, OK Don via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com 
 wrote:
 
 The place didn't come with a herd of feral cats?
 
 On Sun, Dec 14, 2014 at 9:31 PM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes 
 mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:
 
 What happens if you put poison blocks next to the tires?
 Mitch.
 
 On December 14, 2014 at 6:05 PM Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes
 mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:
 
 
 Starting to fill up with cars. I'm going to have to build another shop
 at some
 point. Btw I leave the hoods up to cut down on rats nests. I need to
 work on
 the doors to keep mice out of the shop. I discovered a rats nest under
 the
 hood of the first car in within a couple of weeks. Started leaving the
 hoods
 up and so far they have not appear to be interested in the engine
 compartments.
 
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Re: [MBZ] Shop is filling up

2014-12-14 Thread Curly McLain via Mercedes
Sounds  like pack rats.  I went to get some truck parts many years 
ago in the FLint hills of KS.  It was maybe within 60 miles of 
Manhattan.  Every truck had pack rat nests under the hood and each 
rat I saw run out was probably 4 to 8 lb.  as big as a cat.


You need a couple of rat terriers or jack russell terriers.  They 
will get rid of the rats.  Its what they were born to do.  The pack 
of barn cats will take care of the meeses.




I got a big jumbo pack of just one bite, kills them quick. House had 
mice, found most or all of their holes and sealed them up and used 
the blocks, have not seen any signs of them in the house. Need to do 
the same in the shop. That other 115 I moved today had a massive 
nest from some sort of animal under the hood. The entire drivers 
side of the engine compartment was tightly packed with leaves. I 
cleaned all that out before attempting to start it because I did not 
want the cool wires on the glow plugs setting the leaves on fire. No 
wires were chewed but whatever was living under there did chew the 
entire positive battery connection off, damnedest thing I have seen. 
That is a big chunk of metal.


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Re: [MBZ] Shop is filling up

2014-12-14 Thread fmiser via Mercedes
  Kaleb wrote:
 
  I leave the hoods up to cut
  down on rats nests.

 Mitch wrote:
 
 What happens if you put poison blocks next to the tires?

Poison _might_ diminish the rats population - but it will almost
certainly diminish their natural predators which can make the
problem worse.

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