Re: [MBZ] Speaking of compressors: automatic draining

2006-08-21 Thread archer

Thanks, Randy.  Think I'll stick with standard compressors from now on too.
Gerry

- Original Message - 
From: "R A Bennell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
I wouldn't spend a lot of money on it. I had one of the portable Coleman 
units that was supposed to be "contractor"
quality. It didn't last very long before it broke the connecting rod and 
hammered itself to junk before I could get
it shut off. Just beyond the warranty period and they declined to offer me 
any assistance. I am not a contractor
and it had only been used a few times to power my brad nailer.  Call me 
unhappy. I won't buy any more of their
junk. The store that I bought it from was much better. They gave me full 
credit for it and I bought one of their
house brand units - made in the far east somewhere. It is oiled rather 
than oil-less. It is much quieter, thank
goodness. I have had no trouble with it, but again, have hardly used it so 
not a strong testimonial for its quality
either. Store is a Canadian chain that does not exist down south so not 
too relevant to most of you all - Princess

Auto.
Randy


Have a Coleman cheapy compressor with (20?) gallon tank that lately takes 
a

long time to build up pressure.  Instead of a regular piston it has some
sort of plastic piston from what I've been told.  Since its only turned on
about once per month to air up tires, and only two years old, I'm 
wondering

if the piston simply needs some sort of lubrication since it has a dry
crankcase.  All info appreciated.
Gerry





Re: [MBZ] Speaking of compressors: automatic draining

2006-08-21 Thread archer

Have a Coleman cheapy compressor with (20?) gallon tank that lately
takes a
long time to build up pressure.  Instead of a regular piston it has
some
sort of plastic piston from what I've been told.  Since its only
turned on
about once per month to air up tires, and only two years old, I'm
wondering
if the piston simply needs some sort of lubrication since it has a dry
crankcase.  All info appreciated.

Gerry


If it's like my (retired medical equipment) air compressor/drier/vacuum
pump,
which is oilless, it's a normal type of piston, but it uses a sealed
for life
crank bearing and a weird teflon ring on the piston.  You must buy a new
piston when the ring fails, in my case.  I had to do this, turning my
free (and slow, but extremely quiet in its lead-lined vault) compressor
into a $40 unit.  Takes about 10 minutes to pump up the tank from
scratch.

Most of the time I use a HF $100 cheapie that I bought when I needed
more
air volume.  I also have sufficient fittings that I can plumb them
together
so that they both fill both tanks together, makes quite a difference
when
I need a lot of air.
-- Jim

--
That's probably what this is like.  I'll take it apart and see.  Thanks, 
Jim.
Gerry 





Re: [MBZ] Speaking of compressors: automatic draining

2006-08-21 Thread archer

archer wrote:
Have a Coleman cheapy compressor with (20?) gallon tank that lately takes 
a

long time to build up pressure.  Instead of a regular piston it has some
sort of plastic piston from what I've been told.  Since its only turned 
on
about once per month to air up tires, and only two years old, I'm 
wondering

if the piston simply needs some sort of lubrication since it has a dry
crankcase.  All info appreciated.
Gerry



Have you read the manual to see what the manufacturer recommends?
Jeff Zedic
Toronto


The manual shows an exploded view of the compressor, parts list, etc.; but 
doesn't offer recommendations.  If this compressor is going to need a new 
piston this frequently, I'll probably spend a little more and get a regular 
compressor.  It has a 2 HP motor, so a small standard compressor might work 
OK if belt driven. HF has one for $100.  I wonder what kind oil is least 
likely to attack plastic?  It might be worthwhile to try that first.
Gerry 





Re: [MBZ] Speaking of compressors: automatic draining

2006-08-21 Thread R A Bennell
I wouldn't spend a lot of money on it. I had one of the portable Coleman units 
that was supposed to be "contractor"
quality. It didn't last very long before it broke the connecting rod and 
hammered itself to junk before I could get
it shut off. Just beyond the warranty period and they declined to offer me any 
assistance. I am not a contractor
and it had only been used a few times to power my brad nailer.  Call me 
unhappy. I won't buy any more of their
junk. The store that I bought it from was much better. They gave me full credit 
for it and I bought one of their
house brand units - made in the far east somewhere. It is oiled rather than 
oil-less. It is much quieter, thank
goodness. I have had no trouble with it, but again, have hardly used it so not 
a strong testimonial for its quality
either. Store is a Canadian chain that does not exist down south so not too 
relevant to most of you all - Princess
Auto.

Randy

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Have a Coleman cheapy compressor with (20?) gallon tank that lately takes a
long time to build up pressure.  Instead of a regular piston it has some
sort of plastic piston from what I've been told.  Since its only turned on
about once per month to air up tires, and only two years old, I'm wondering
if the piston simply needs some sort of lubrication since it has a dry
crankcase.  All info appreciated.
Gerry

- Original Message -
From: "Frederick Moir" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Hi, All.
  My compressor has one of these. Bot it from HF. approx $10. It installs in
place of the lower drain and picks up its' signal from the unloader/on/off
switch assy. pressure line.
  Once a year cleanout is reqd. on mine.
  Fred Moir
  Lynn MA
  84 190D
  85 300TD
  87 190Dt

Joe Knight <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
  : http://makeashorterlink.com/?G4565299D
Anybody got a clue as to how this thing might function, or what might
be a better way to control water buildup in a compressor tank? I've
got a small compressor that I'm intending to install into an enclosure
outside the garage with on/off switch, manifold & FRL inside & would
rather not have to hike out to the unit every time it occurs to me
that the tank might be due for draining.
-joe


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Re: [MBZ] Speaking of compressors: automatic draining

2006-08-21 Thread Jeff Zedic

archer wrote:
Have a Coleman cheapy compressor with (20?) gallon tank that lately takes a 
long time to build up pressure.  Instead of a regular piston it has some 
sort of plastic piston from what I've been told.  Since its only turned on 
about once per month to air up tires, and only two years old, I'm wondering 
if the piston simply needs some sort of lubrication since it has a dry 
crankcase.  All info appreciated.

Gerry



Have you read the manual to see what the manufacturer recommends?

Jeff Zedic
Toronto



Re: [MBZ] Speaking of compressors: automatic draining

2006-08-21 Thread Jim Cathey
Have a Coleman cheapy compressor with (20?) gallon tank that lately 
takes a
long time to build up pressure.  Instead of a regular piston it has 
some
sort of plastic piston from what I've been told.  Since its only 
turned on
about once per month to air up tires, and only two years old, I'm 
wondering

if the piston simply needs some sort of lubrication since it has a dry
crankcase.  All info appreciated.


If it's like my (retired medical equipment) air compressor/drier/vacuum 
pump,
which is oilless, it's a normal type of piston, but it uses a sealed 
for life

crank bearing and a weird teflon ring on the piston.  You must buy a new
piston when the ring fails, in my case.  I had to do this, turning my
free (and slow, but extremely quiet in its lead-lined vault) compressor
into a $40 unit.  Takes about 10 minutes to pump up the tank from 
scratch.


Most of the time I use a HF $100 cheapie that I bought when I needed 
more
air volume.  I also have sufficient fittings that I can plumb them 
together
so that they both fill both tanks together, makes quite a difference 
when

I need a lot of air.

-- Jim




Re: [MBZ] Speaking of compressors: automatic draining

2006-08-21 Thread archer
Have a Coleman cheapy compressor with (20?) gallon tank that lately takes a 
long time to build up pressure.  Instead of a regular piston it has some 
sort of plastic piston from what I've been told.  Since its only turned on 
about once per month to air up tires, and only two years old, I'm wondering 
if the piston simply needs some sort of lubrication since it has a dry 
crankcase.  All info appreciated.

Gerry

- Original Message - 
From: "Frederick Moir" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>


Hi, All.
 My compressor has one of these. Bot it from HF. approx $10. It installs in 
place of the lower drain and picks up its' signal from the unloader/on/off 
switch assy. pressure line.

 Once a year cleanout is reqd. on mine.
 Fred Moir
 Lynn MA
 84 190D
 85 300TD
 87 190Dt

Joe Knight <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
 : http://makeashorterlink.com/?G4565299D
Anybody got a clue as to how this thing might function, or what might
be a better way to control water buildup in a compressor tank? I've
got a small compressor that I'm intending to install into an enclosure
outside the garage with on/off switch, manifold & FRL inside & would
rather not have to hike out to the unit every time it occurs to me
that the tank might be due for draining.
-joe 





Re: [MBZ] Speaking of compressors: automatic draining

2006-08-21 Thread Frederick Moir
Hi, All.
  My compressor has one of these. Bot it from HF. approx $10. It installs in 
place of the lower drain and picks up its' signal from the unloader/on/off 
switch assy. pressure line.
  Once a year cleanout is reqd. on mine.
  Fred Moir
  Lynn MA
  84 190D
  85 300TD
  87 190Dt

Joe Knight <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
  : http://makeashorterlink.com/?G4565299D
Anybody got a clue as to how this thing might function, or what might
be a better way to control water buildup in a compressor tank? I've
got a small compressor that I'm intending to install into an enclosure
outside the garage with on/off switch, manifold & FRL inside & would
rather not have to hike out to the unit every time it occurs to me
that the tank might be due for draining.

-joe

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you must not drive much.

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Re: [MBZ] Speaking of compressors: automatic draining

2006-08-21 Thread Potter, Tom E
It is hard to tell from the pictures, but it probably works like the old
steam traps--some sort of float inside that lifts the valve until the
liquid level drops the float again.

Tom Potter

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: http://makeashorterlink.com/?G4565299D
Anybody got a clue as to how this thing might function, or what might
be a better way to control water buildup in a compressor tank?  I've
got a small compressor that I'm intending to install into an enclosure
outside the garage with on/off switch, manifold & FRL inside & would
rather not have to hike out to the unit every time it occurs to me
that the tank might be due for draining.

-joe

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[MBZ] Speaking of compressors: automatic draining

2006-08-21 Thread Joe Knight

: http://makeashorterlink.com/?G4565299D
Anybody got a clue as to how this thing might function, or what might
be a better way to control water buildup in a compressor tank?  I've
got a small compressor that I'm intending to install into an enclosure
outside the garage with on/off switch, manifold & FRL inside & would
rather not have to hike out to the unit every time it occurs to me
that the tank might be due for draining.

-joe