Re: [MBZ] Stupid buyers

[Dimitri via Mercedes]

Again, there are a lot of losers out there.

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> On Oct 3, 2016, at 11:53 AM, Donald Snook via Mercedes 
> <mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> 
> Some people are amazing aren't they!   I sold a guy an old cheap oldsmobile 
> several years ago and he called me all pissed off 4 months later because it 
> had a star chip in the windshield and the muffler went bad.  He had already 
> put over 6,000 miles on it in 4 months.  He said I must have known about the 
> chip and the muffler and that I had rigged something up to try to hide it 
> from him.   He bugged me repeatedly and could never explain how I was able to 
> hide the chip from him or how I had rigged the muffler to last long enough 
> that it went out only after I had sold it to him.  He kept bugging me and I 
> actually found a few of the service records that I had forgotten to give him. 
>   The muffler had a lifetime warranty from midas or some similar place.  We 
> finally agreed that he would bring the car to me and I had to bring it to 
> Midas to have the muffler replaced under warranty.  It didn't cost anything 
> -- except aggravation and time.  But, I was truly astounded by the nerve of 
> the guy.
   I wondered about how crazy his thoughts were.  He sincerely believed I was 
able to cover these things up and make them fail only after I had sold the car 
to him.  
> 
> There are a lot of crazy people in the world. 
> 
> Don Snook 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Kaleb C. Striplin [mailto:ka...@striplin.net] 
> Sent: Saturday, October 01, 2016 9:16 PM
> To: mercedes@okiebenz.com
> Subject: [MBZ] Stupid buyers
> 
> I have not had a chance to tell the tale of the selling of my ML which I 
> immediately regretted due to selling it way way way too cheap. Anyway this 
> guy bugs the crap out of me wanting to look at it. I talk to him on the phone 
> and answer his questions. He wanted to know if it had 2 sets of keys and 
> owners manual. He also wanted the vin to run a carfax. The truck had a 
> cracked from bumper due to neighbors cow running into it. No police or 
> insurance involved. So he shows up and starts looking it over. Then said he 
> pulled autocheck which shows the bumper shows as wrecked. I pull out my phone 
> and run a carfax which shows clean and explained how it would be impossible 
> for the cow damage to show up. Probably a ploy to get me to sell it even 
> cheaper. Guy turns out to be a dealer and was talking dealer talk about 
> auctions etc to which I responded with  dealer talk as well. He low balls me 
> on my already way way way too cheap price to which I tell him I am firm and 
> he can take it or leave it.
  I ended up knocking $100 off just so I did not have to deal with any further 
idols. His big concern was the cd changer was missing the magazine and kept 
asking if I had one. I had several 140s and 124s out back and he said surely 
they have one, he has never seen an s class that didn't. I told him I did not 
have a spare one to give him. Later on I am showing him around and looking at 
cars and as we are looking he keeps opening the trunks probably looking to see 
if I have a changed magazine. Kind of annoyed me. He finally pays and leaves. 
Now keep in mind I just put a brand new set of Michelins on it as well as brand 
new ac with new Denso compressor.  Probably close in value to what I sold it 
for. When I did the work I figured people would appreciate and recognize a well 
properly maintained vehicle bit I guess the M class crowd is just looking for a 
cheap car. I probably should have pulled the tires off and Put the old work out 
tires back on. So anyway a couple of days ago the guy ca
 lls up saying it runs and drives great but has the most uncomfortable seats in 
and ML he has ever had, said somebody but have replaced the padding with 
something else. Was also complaining about the way it steered around corners. 
He then wanted me to send him receipts for the tires and ac work. I told him if 
I ran across them I would send them to him. 
> 
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Re: [MBZ] Stupid buyers

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

PIA always trumps "as is".

On Mon, Oct 3, 2016 at 5:24 PM, Donald Snook via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> Yes, I know what "as is" means.  I was there that day we discussed it in
> law school.
>
> The bill of sale had all the legal language in it:  as is, no warranties
> express or implied, blah, blah, blah.  I had no legal responsibility to do
> anything for the guy AND I told him that several times.  But, he was such a
> pain in the ass and kept up his demands, that at some point, it was worth
> it to get the muffler done just to shut him up.  It cost me nothing and he
> stopped bugging me.
>
> Don Snook
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: arche...@embarqmail.com [mailto:arche...@embarqmail.com]
> Sent: Monday, October 03, 2016 4:16 PM
> To: Mercedes Discussion List <mercedes@okiebenz.com>
> Subject: Re: [MBZ] Stupid buyers
>
> Do you know the legal significance of the phrase "as is", Donald?
> Since it's been around for a while it would seem there would by now be
> enough cases to establish its validity or lack of validity in various
> states?
> Gerry
>
> Donald Snook wrote:
> > Some people are amazing aren't they!   I sold a guy an old cheap
> oldsmobile several years ago and he called me all pissed off 4 months later
> because it had a star chip in the windshield and the muffler went bad.  He
> had already put over 6,000 miles on it in 4 months.  He said I must have
> known about the chip and the muffler and that I had rigged something up to
> try to hide it from him.   He bugged me repeatedly and could never explain
> how I was able to hide the chip from him or how I had rigged the muffler to
> last long enough that it went out only after I had sold it to him.  He kept
> bugging me and I actually found a few of the service records that I had
> forgotten to give him.   The muffler had a lifetime warranty from midas or
> some similar place.  We finally agreed that he would bring the car to me
> and I had to bring it to Midas to have the muffler replaced under
> warranty.  It didn't cost anything -- except aggravation and time.  But, I
> was truly astounded by the nerve of the guy.  I wondered about how crazy
> his thoughts were.  He sincerely believed I was able to cover these things
> up and make them fail only after I had sold the car to him.
> >
> > There are a lot of crazy people in the world.
> >
> > Don Snook
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Kaleb C. Striplin [mailto:ka...@striplin.net]
> > Sent: Saturday, October 01, 2016 9:16 PM
> > To: mercedes@okiebenz.com
> > Subject: [MBZ] Stupid buyers
> >
> > I have not had a chance to tell the tale of the selling of my ML which I
> immediately regretted due to selling it way way way too cheap. Anyway this
> guy bugs the crap out of me wanting to look at it. I talk to him on the
> phone and answer his questions. He wanted to know if it had 2 sets of keys
> and owners manual. He also wanted the vin to run a carfax. The truck had a
> cracked from bumper due to neighbors cow running into it. No police or
> insurance involved. So he shows up and starts looking it over. Then said he
> pulled autocheck which shows the bumper shows as wrecked. I pull out my
> phone and run a carfax which shows clean and explained how it would be
> impossible for the cow damage to show up. Probably a ploy to get me to sell
> it even cheaper. Guy turns out to be a dealer and was talking dealer talk
> about auctions etc to which I responded with  dealer talk as well. He low
> balls me on my already way way way too cheap price to which I tell him I am
> firm and he can take it or leave it. I ended up knocking $100 off just so I
> did not have to deal with any further idols. His big concern was the cd
> changer was missing the magazine and kept asking if I had one. I had
> several 140s and 124s out back and he said surely they have one, he has
> never seen an s class that didn't. I told him I did not have a spare one to
> give him. Later on I am showing him around and looking at cars and as we
> are looking he keeps opening the trunks probably looking to see if I have a
> changed magazine. Kind of annoyed me. He finally pays and leaves. Now keep
> in mind I just put a brand new set of Michelins on it as well as brand new
> ac with new Denso compressor.  Probably close in value to what I sold it
> for. When I did the work I figured people would appreciate and recognize a
> well properly maintained vehicle bit I guess the M class crowd is just
> looking for a cheap car. I probably should have pulled the tires off and
> Put the old work out tires back on. So anyway a couple of days ago the guy
> calls up saying it runs and drives gre

Re: [MBZ] Stupid buyers

[Donald Snook via Mercedes]

Yes, I know what "as is" means.  I was there that day we discussed it in law 
school.  

The bill of sale had all the legal language in it:  as is, no warranties 
express or implied, blah, blah, blah.  I had no legal responsibility to do 
anything for the guy AND I told him that several times.  But, he was such a 
pain in the ass and kept up his demands, that at some point, it was worth it to 
get the muffler done just to shut him up.  It cost me nothing and he stopped 
bugging me. 

Don Snook 


-Original Message-
From: arche...@embarqmail.com [mailto:arche...@embarqmail.com] 
Sent: Monday, October 03, 2016 4:16 PM
To: Mercedes Discussion List <mercedes@okiebenz.com>
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Stupid buyers

Do you know the legal significance of the phrase "as is", Donald?
Since it's been around for a while it would seem there would by now be enough 
cases to establish its validity or lack of validity in various states?
Gerry

Donald Snook wrote:
> Some people are amazing aren't they!   I sold a guy an old cheap oldsmobile 
> several years ago and he called me all pissed off 4 months later because it 
> had a star chip in the windshield and the muffler went bad.  He had already 
> put over 6,000 miles on it in 4 months.  He said I must have known about the 
> chip and the muffler and that I had rigged something up to try to hide it 
> from him.   He bugged me repeatedly and could never explain how I was able to 
> hide the chip from him or how I had rigged the muffler to last long enough 
> that it went out only after I had sold it to him.  He kept bugging me and I 
> actually found a few of the service records that I had forgotten to give him. 
>   The muffler had a lifetime warranty from midas or some similar place.  We 
> finally agreed that he would bring the car to me and I had to bring it to 
> Midas to have the muffler replaced under warranty.  It didn't cost anything 
> -- except aggravation and time.  But, I was truly astounded by the nerve of 
> the guy.
   I wondered about how crazy his thoughts were.  He sincerely believed I was 
able to cover these things up and make them fail only after I had sold the car 
to him.  
> 
> There are a lot of crazy people in the world. 
> 
> Don Snook 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Kaleb C. Striplin [mailto:ka...@striplin.net] 
> Sent: Saturday, October 01, 2016 9:16 PM
> To: mercedes@okiebenz.com
> Subject: [MBZ] Stupid buyers
> 
> I have not had a chance to tell the tale of the selling of my ML which I 
> immediately regretted due to selling it way way way too cheap. Anyway this 
> guy bugs the crap out of me wanting to look at it. I talk to him on the phone 
> and answer his questions. He wanted to know if it had 2 sets of keys and 
> owners manual. He also wanted the vin to run a carfax. The truck had a 
> cracked from bumper due to neighbors cow running into it. No police or 
> insurance involved. So he shows up and starts looking it over. Then said he 
> pulled autocheck which shows the bumper shows as wrecked. I pull out my phone 
> and run a carfax which shows clean and explained how it would be impossible 
> for the cow damage to show up. Probably a ploy to get me to sell it even 
> cheaper. Guy turns out to be a dealer and was talking dealer talk about 
> auctions etc to which I responded with  dealer talk as well. He low balls me 
> on my already way way way too cheap price to which I tell him I am firm and 
> he can take it or leave it.
  I ended up knocking $100 off just so I did not have to deal with any further 
idols. His big concern was the cd changer was missing the magazine and kept 
asking if I had one. I had several 140s and 124s out back and he said surely 
they have one, he has never seen an s class that didn't. I told him I did not 
have a spare one to give him. Later on I am showing him around and looking at 
cars and as we are looking he keeps opening the trunks probably looking to see 
if I have a changed magazine. Kind of annoyed me. He finally pays and leaves. 
Now keep in mind I just put a brand new set of Michelins on it as well as brand 
new ac with new Denso compressor.  Probably close in value to what I sold it 
for. When I did the work I figured people would appreciate and recognize a well 
properly maintained vehicle bit I guess the M class crowd is just looking for a 
cheap car. I probably should have pulled the tires off and Put the old work out 
tires back on. So anyway a couple of days ago the guy ca
 lls up saying it runs and drives great but has the most uncomfortable seats in 
and ML he has ever had, said somebody but have replaced the padding with 
something else. Was also complaining about the way it steered around corners. 
He then wanted me to send him receipts for the tires and ac work. I told him if 
I ran across them I would send them to him. 
> 
> 

Re: [MBZ] Stupid buyers

[archer75--- via Mercedes]

Do you know the legal significance of the phrase "as is", Donald?
Since it's been around for a while it would seem there would by now be enough 
cases to establish its validity or lack of validity in various states?
Gerry

Donald Snook wrote:
> Some people are amazing aren't they!   I sold a guy an old cheap oldsmobile 
> several years ago and he called me all pissed off 4 months later because it 
> had a star chip in the windshield and the muffler went bad.  He had already 
> put over 6,000 miles on it in 4 months.  He said I must have known about the 
> chip and the muffler and that I had rigged something up to try to hide it 
> from him.   He bugged me repeatedly and could never explain how I was able to 
> hide the chip from him or how I had rigged the muffler to last long enough 
> that it went out only after I had sold it to him.  He kept bugging me and I 
> actually found a few of the service records that I had forgotten to give him. 
>   The muffler had a lifetime warranty from midas or some similar place.  We 
> finally agreed that he would bring the car to me and I had to bring it to 
> Midas to have the muffler replaced under warranty.  It didn't cost anything 
> -- except aggravation and time.  But, I was truly astounded by the nerve of 
> the guy.
   I wondered about how crazy his thoughts were.  He sincerely believed I was 
able to cover these things up and make them fail only after I had sold the car 
to him.  
> 
> There are a lot of crazy people in the world. 
> 
> Don Snook 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Kaleb C. Striplin [mailto:ka...@striplin.net] 
> Sent: Saturday, October 01, 2016 9:16 PM
> To: mercedes@okiebenz.com
> Subject: [MBZ] Stupid buyers
> 
> I have not had a chance to tell the tale of the selling of my ML which I 
> immediately regretted due to selling it way way way too cheap. Anyway this 
> guy bugs the crap out of me wanting to look at it. I talk to him on the phone 
> and answer his questions. He wanted to know if it had 2 sets of keys and 
> owners manual. He also wanted the vin to run a carfax. The truck had a 
> cracked from bumper due to neighbors cow running into it. No police or 
> insurance involved. So he shows up and starts looking it over. Then said he 
> pulled autocheck which shows the bumper shows as wrecked. I pull out my phone 
> and run a carfax which shows clean and explained how it would be impossible 
> for the cow damage to show up. Probably a ploy to get me to sell it even 
> cheaper. Guy turns out to be a dealer and was talking dealer talk about 
> auctions etc to which I responded with  dealer talk as well. He low balls me 
> on my already way way way too cheap price to which I tell him I am firm and 
> he can take it or leave it.
  I ended up knocking $100 off just so I did not have to deal with any further 
idols. His big concern was the cd changer was missing the magazine and kept 
asking if I had one. I had several 140s and 124s out back and he said surely 
they have one, he has never seen an s class that didn't. I told him I did not 
have a spare one to give him. Later on I am showing him around and looking at 
cars and as we are looking he keeps opening the trunks probably looking to see 
if I have a changed magazine. Kind of annoyed me. He finally pays and leaves. 
Now keep in mind I just put a brand new set of Michelins on it as well as brand 
new ac with new Denso compressor.  Probably close in value to what I sold it 
for. When I did the work I figured people would appreciate and recognize a well 
properly maintained vehicle bit I guess the M class crowd is just looking for a 
cheap car. I probably should have pulled the tires off and Put the old work out 
tires back on. So anyway a couple of days ago the guy ca
 lls up saying it runs and drives great but has the most uncomfortable seats in 
and ML he has ever had, said somebody but have replaced the padding with 
something else. Was also complaining about the way it steered around corners. 
He then wanted me to send him receipts for the tires and ac work. I told him if 
I ran across them I would send them to him. 
> 
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Re: [MBZ] Stupid buyers

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

Another reason why when I use CL any more it's a burner email address and no 
phone number.

Of course selling a car involves a title, so they would have your contact 
information, but they would have to have kept it from the title when they 
bought it.

Dan

> On Oct 3, 2016, at 11:53 AM, Donald Snook via Mercedes 
> <mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> 
> Some people are amazing aren't they!   I sold a guy an old cheap oldsmobile 
> several years ago and he called me all pissed off 4 months later because it 
> had a star chip in the windshield and the muffler went bad.  He had already 
> put over 6,000 miles on it in 4 months.  He said I must have known about the 
> chip and the muffler and that I had rigged something up to try to hide it 
> from him.   He bugged me repeatedly and could never explain how I was able to 
> hide the chip from him or how I had rigged the muffler to last long enough 
> that it went out only after I had sold it to him.  He kept bugging me and I 
> actually found a few of the service records that I had forgotten to give him. 
>   The muffler had a lifetime warranty from midas or some similar place.  We 
> finally agreed that he would bring the car to me and I had to bring it to 
> Midas to have the muffler replaced under warranty.  It didn't cost anything 
> -- except aggravation and time.  But, I was truly astounded by the nerve of 
> the guy.
   I wondered about how crazy his thoughts were.  He sincerely believed I was 
able to cover these things up and make them fail only after I had sold the car 
to him.  
> 
> There are a lot of crazy people in the world. 
> 
> Don Snook 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Kaleb C. Striplin [mailto:ka...@striplin.net] 
> Sent: Saturday, October 01, 2016 9:16 PM
> To: mercedes@okiebenz.com
> Subject: [MBZ] Stupid buyers
> 
> I have not had a chance to tell the tale of the selling of my ML which I 
> immediately regretted due to selling it way way way too cheap. Anyway this 
> guy bugs the crap out of me wanting to look at it. I talk to him on the phone 
> and answer his questions. He wanted to know if it had 2 sets of keys and 
> owners manual. He also wanted the vin to run a carfax. The truck had a 
> cracked from bumper due to neighbors cow running into it. No police or 
> insurance involved. So he shows up and starts looking it over. Then said he 
> pulled autocheck which shows the bumper shows as wrecked. I pull out my phone 
> and run a carfax which shows clean and explained how it would be impossible 
> for the cow damage to show up. Probably a ploy to get me to sell it even 
> cheaper. Guy turns out to be a dealer and was talking dealer talk about 
> auctions etc to which I responded with  dealer talk as well. He low balls me 
> on my already way way way too cheap price to which I tell him I am firm and 
> he can take it or leave it.
  I ended up knocking $100 off just so I did not have to deal with any further 
idols. His big concern was the cd changer was missing the magazine and kept 
asking if I had one. I had several 140s and 124s out back and he said surely 
they have one, he has never seen an s class that didn't. I told him I did not 
have a spare one to give him. Later on I am showing him around and looking at 
cars and as we are looking he keeps opening the trunks probably looking to see 
if I have a changed magazine. Kind of annoyed me. He finally pays and leaves. 
Now keep in mind I just put a brand new set of Michelins on it as well as brand 
new ac with new Denso compressor.  Probably close in value to what I sold it 
for. When I did the work I figured people would appreciate and recognize a well 
properly maintained vehicle bit I guess the M class crowd is just looking for a 
cheap car. I probably should have pulled the tires off and Put the old work out 
tires back on. So anyway a couple of days ago the guy ca
 lls up saying it runs and drives great but has the most uncomfortable seats in 
and ML he has ever had, said somebody but have replaced the padding with 
something else. Was also complaining about the way it steered around corners. 
He then wanted me to send him receipts for the tires and ac work. I told him if 
I ran across them I would send them to him. 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
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Re: [MBZ] Stupid buyers

[Donald Snook via Mercedes]

Some people are amazing aren't they!   I sold a guy an old cheap oldsmobile 
several years ago and he called me all pissed off 4 months later because it had 
a star chip in the windshield and the muffler went bad.  He had already put 
over 6,000 miles on it in 4 months.  He said I must have known about the chip 
and the muffler and that I had rigged something up to try to hide it from him.  
 He bugged me repeatedly and could never explain how I was able to hide the 
chip from him or how I had rigged the muffler to last long enough that it went 
out only after I had sold it to him.  He kept bugging me and I actually found a 
few of the service records that I had forgotten to give him.   The muffler had 
a lifetime warranty from midas or some similar place.  We finally agreed that 
he would bring the car to me and I had to bring it to Midas to have the muffler 
replaced under warranty.  It didn't cost anything -- except aggravation and 
time.  But, I was truly astounded by the nerve of the guy.  
 I wondered about how crazy his thoughts were.  He sincerely believed I was 
able to cover these things up and make them fail only after I had sold the car 
to him.  

There are a lot of crazy people in the world. 

Don Snook 

-Original Message-
From: Kaleb C. Striplin [mailto:ka...@striplin.net] 
Sent: Saturday, October 01, 2016 9:16 PM
To: mercedes@okiebenz.com
Subject: [MBZ] Stupid buyers

I have not had a chance to tell the tale of the selling of my ML which I 
immediately regretted due to selling it way way way too cheap. Anyway this guy 
bugs the crap out of me wanting to look at it. I talk to him on the phone and 
answer his questions. He wanted to know if it had 2 sets of keys and owners 
manual. He also wanted the vin to run a carfax. The truck had a cracked from 
bumper due to neighbors cow running into it. No police or insurance involved. 
So he shows up and starts looking it over. Then said he pulled autocheck which 
shows the bumper shows as wrecked. I pull out my phone and run a carfax which 
shows clean and explained how it would be impossible for the cow damage to show 
up. Probably a ploy to get me to sell it even cheaper. Guy turns out to be a 
dealer and was talking dealer talk about auctions etc to which I responded with 
 dealer talk as well. He low balls me on my already way way way too cheap price 
to which I tell him I am firm and he can take it or leave it. I
  ended up knocking $100 off just so I did not have to deal with any further 
idols. His big concern was the cd changer was missing the magazine and kept 
asking if I had one. I had several 140s and 124s out back and he said surely 
they have one, he has never seen an s class that didn't. I told him I did not 
have a spare one to give him. Later on I am showing him around and looking at 
cars and as we are looking he keeps opening the trunks probably looking to see 
if I have a changed magazine. Kind of annoyed me. He finally pays and leaves. 
Now keep in mind I just put a brand new set of Michelins on it as well as brand 
new ac with new Denso compressor.  Probably close in value to what I sold it 
for. When I did the work I figured people would appreciate and recognize a well 
properly maintained vehicle bit I guess the M class crowd is just looking for a 
cheap car. I probably should have pulled the tires off and Put the old work out 
tires back on. So anyway a couple of days ago the guy call
 s up saying it runs and drives great but has the most uncomfortable seats in 
and ML he has ever had, said somebody but have replaced the padding with 
something else. Was also complaining about the way it steered around corners. 
He then wanted me to send him receipts for the tires and ac work. I told him if 
I ran across them I would send them to him. 

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Re: [MBZ] Stupid buyers

[Curley McLain via Mercedes]

that is good


Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes 
October 2, 2016 at 10:30 AM
As is

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Curley McLain 
October 1, 2016 at 9:23 PM
What did your bill of sale say?


Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes 
October 1, 2016 at 9:16 PM
I have not had a chance to tell the tale of the selling of my ML which 
I immediately regretted due to selling it way way way too cheap. 
Anyway this guy bugs the crap out of me wanting to look at it. I talk 
to him on the phone and answer his questions. He wanted to know if it 
had 2 sets of keys and owners manual. He also wanted the vin to run a 
carfax. The truck had a cracked from bumper due to neighbors cow 
running into it. No police or insurance involved. So he shows up and 
starts looking it over. Then said he pulled autocheck which shows the 
bumper shows as wrecked. I pull out my phone and run a carfax which 
shows clean and explained how it would be impossible for the cow 
damage to show up. Probably a ploy to get me to sell it even cheaper. 
Guy turns out to be a dealer and was talking dealer talk about 
auctions etc to which I responded with dealer talk as well. He low 
balls me on my already way way way too cheap price to which I tell him 
I am firm and he can take it or leave it. I ended up knocking $100 off 
just so I did not have to deal with any further idols. His big concern 
was the cd changer was missing the magazine and kept asking if I had 
one. I had several 140s and 124s out back and he said surely they have 
one, he has never seen an s class that didn't. I told him I did not 
have a spare one to give him. Later on I am showing him around and 
looking at cars and as we are looking he keeps opening the trunks 
probably looking to see if I have a changed magazine. Kind of annoyed 
me. He finally pays and leaves. Now keep in mind I just put a brand 
new set of Michelins on it as well as brand new ac with new Denso 
compressor. Probably close in value to what I sold it for. When I did 
the work I figured people would appreciate and recognize a well 
properly maintained vehicle bit I guess the M class crowd is just 
looking for a cheap car. I probably should have pulled the tires off 
and Put the old work out tires back on. So anyway a couple of days ago 
the guy calls up saying it runs and drives great but has the most 
uncomfortable seats in and ML he has ever had, said somebody but have 
replaced the padding with something else. Was also complaining about 
the way it steered around corners. He then wanted me to send him 
receipts for the tires and ac work. I told him if I ran across them I 
would send them to him.


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Re: [MBZ] Stupid buyers

[Mitch Haley via Mercedes]

> On October 2, 2016 at 12:17 PM Floyd Thursby via Mercedes
>  wrote:
> 
> 
> Loosers!

Reminds me of a used car dealer in the Detroit area. 
They have a reputation for bidding up cars at auction and then coming back with
a list of complaints and demanding a price adjustment after they buy. 

I should ask around and see if the other dealers figured out a way to handle
them. 

Mitch.

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Re: [MBZ] Stupid buyers

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

Loosers!

--FT


On 10/2/16 11:48 AM, Dimitri via Mercedes wrote:

Some people are born losers

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On Oct 1, 2016, at 11:28 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes 
 wrote:

That's exactly right. For no more than I got for it, I should have just kept it

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wrote:

All for a probably $1200-$1500 deal. Some folks are a holes.

Rick
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Re: [MBZ] Stupid buyers

[Dimitri via Mercedes]

Some people are born losers

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> On Oct 1, 2016, at 11:28 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> That's exactly right. For no more than I got for it, I should have just kept 
> it
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
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>> On Oct 1, 2016, at 10:08 PM, Rick Knoble via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> All for a probably $1200-$1500 deal. Some folks are a holes.  
>> 
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Re: [MBZ] Stupid buyers

[Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes]

As is

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> On Oct 1, 2016, at 9:23 PM, Curley McLain via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> What did your bill of sale say?
> 
>> Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes 
>> October 1, 2016 at 9:16 PM
>> I have not had a chance to tell the tale of the selling of my ML which I 
>> immediately regretted due to selling it way way way too cheap. Anyway this 
>> guy bugs the crap out of me wanting to look at it. I talk to him on the 
>> phone and answer his questions. He wanted to know if it had 2 sets of keys 
>> and owners manual. He also wanted the vin to run a carfax. The truck had a 
>> cracked from bumper due to neighbors cow running into it. No police or 
>> insurance involved. So he shows up and starts looking it over. Then said he 
>> pulled autocheck which shows the bumper shows as wrecked. I pull out my 
>> phone and run a carfax which shows clean and explained how it would be 
>> impossible for the cow damage to show up. Probably a ploy to get me to sell 
>> it even cheaper. Guy turns out to be a dealer and was talking dealer talk 
>> about auctions etc to which I responded with dealer talk as well. He low 
>> balls me on my already way way way too cheap price to which I tell him I am 
>> firm and he can take it or leave it.
  I ended up knocking $100 off just so I did not have to deal with any further 
idols. His big concern was the cd changer was missing the magazine and kept 
asking if I had one. I had several 140s and 124s out back and he said surely 
they have one, he has never seen an s class that didn't. I told him I did not 
have a spare one to give him. Later on I am showing him around and looking at 
cars and as we are looking he keeps opening the trunks probably looking to see 
if I have a changed magazine. Kind of annoyed me. He finally pays and leaves. 
Now keep in mind I just put a brand new set of Michelins on it as well as brand 
new ac with new Denso compressor. Probably close in value to what I sold it 
for. When I did the work I figured people would appreciate and recognize a well 
properly maintained vehicle bit I guess the M class crowd is just looking for a 
cheap car. I probably should have pulled the tires off and Put the old work out 
tires back on. So anyway a couple of days ago the guy cal
 ls up saying it runs and drives great but has the most uncomfortable seats in 
and ML he has ever had, said somebody but have replaced the padding with 
something else. Was also complaining about the way it steered around corners. 
He then wanted me to send him receipts for the tires and ac work. I told him if 
I ran across them I would send them to him.
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Re: [MBZ] Stupid buyers

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

You could have been a diplomat. I'd have blown up at such an irksome jerk.

On Oct 1, 2016 11:28 PM, "Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes" <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> That's exactly right. For no more than I got for it, I should have just
> kept it
>
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> >
> > All for a probably $1200-$1500 deal. Some folks are a holes.
> >
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Re: [MBZ] Stupid buyers

[Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes]

That's exactly right. For no more than I got for it, I should have just kept it

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> 
> All for a probably $1200-$1500 deal. Some folks are a holes.  
> 
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Re: [MBZ] Stupid buyers

[Rick Knoble via Mercedes]

All for a probably $1200-$1500 deal. Some folks are a holes.  

Rick 
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Re: [MBZ] Stupid buyers

[Curley McLain via Mercedes]

What did your bill of sale say?


Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes 
October 1, 2016 at 9:16 PM
I have not had a chance to tell the tale of the selling of my ML which 
I immediately regretted due to selling it way way way too cheap. 
Anyway this guy bugs the crap out of me wanting to look at it. I talk 
to him on the phone and answer his questions. He wanted to know if it 
had 2 sets of keys and owners manual. He also wanted the vin to run a 
carfax. The truck had a cracked from bumper due to neighbors cow 
running into it. No police or insurance involved. So he shows up and 
starts looking it over. Then said he pulled autocheck which shows the 
bumper shows as wrecked. I pull out my phone and run a carfax which 
shows clean and explained how it would be impossible for the cow 
damage to show up. Probably a ploy to get me to sell it even cheaper. 
Guy turns out to be a dealer and was talking dealer talk about 
auctions etc to which I responded with dealer talk as well. He low 
balls me on my already way way way too cheap price to which I tell him 
I am firm and he can take it or leave it. I ended up knocking $100 off 
just so I did not have to deal with any further idols. His big concern 
was the cd changer was missing the magazine and kept asking if I had 
one. I had several 140s and 124s out back and he said surely they have 
one, he has never seen an s class that didn't. I told him I did not 
have a spare one to give him. Later on I am showing him around and 
looking at cars and as we are looking he keeps opening the trunks 
probably looking to see if I have a changed magazine. Kind of annoyed 
me. He finally pays and leaves. Now keep in mind I just put a brand 
new set of Michelins on it as well as brand new ac with new Denso 
compressor. Probably close in value to what I sold it for. When I did 
the work I figured people would appreciate and recognize a well 
properly maintained vehicle bit I guess the M class crowd is just 
looking for a cheap car. I probably should have pulled the tires off 
and Put the old work out tires back on. So anyway a couple of days ago 
the guy calls up saying it runs and drives great but has the most 
uncomfortable seats in and ML he has ever had, said somebody but have 
replaced the padding with something else. Was also complaining about 
the way it steered around corners. He then wanted me to send him 
receipts for the tires and ac work. I told him if I ran across them I 
would send them to him.


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[MBZ] Stupid buyers

[Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes]

I have not had a chance to tell the tale of the selling of my ML which I 
immediately regretted due to selling it way way way too cheap. Anyway this guy 
bugs the crap out of me wanting to look at it. I talk to him on the phone and 
answer his questions. He wanted to know if it had 2 sets of keys and owners 
manual. He also wanted the vin to run a carfax. The truck had a cracked from 
bumper due to neighbors cow running into it. No police or insurance involved. 
So he shows up and starts looking it over. Then said he pulled autocheck which 
shows the bumper shows as wrecked. I pull out my phone and run a carfax which 
shows clean and explained how it would be impossible for the cow damage to show 
up. Probably a ploy to get me to sell it even cheaper. Guy turns out to be a 
dealer and was talking dealer talk about auctions etc to which I responded with 
 dealer talk as well. He low balls me on my already way way way too cheap price 
to which I tell him I am firm and he can take it or leave it. I
  ended up knocking $100 off just so I did not have to deal with any further 
idols. His big concern was the cd changer was missing the magazine and kept 
asking if I had one. I had several 140s and 124s out back and he said surely 
they have one, he has never seen an s class that didn't. I told him I did not 
have a spare one to give him. Later on I am showing him around and looking at 
cars and as we are looking he keeps opening the trunks probably looking to see 
if I have a changed magazine. Kind of annoyed me. He finally pays and leaves. 
Now keep in mind I just put a brand new set of Michelins on it as well as brand 
new ac with new Denso compressor.  Probably close in value to what I sold it 
for. When I did the work I figured people would appreciate and recognize a well 
properly maintained vehicle bit I guess the M class crowd is just looking for a 
cheap car. I probably should have pulled the tires off and Put the old work out 
tires back on. So anyway a couple of days ago the guy call
 s up saying it runs and drives great but has the most uncomfortable seats in 
and ML he has ever had, said somebody but have replaced the padding with 
something else. Was also complaining about the way it steered around corners. 
He then wanted me to send him receipts for the tires and ac work. I told him if 
I ran across them I would send them to him. 

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