Re: [MBZ] TEMPTATION: Will not start, 2007 Mercedes-Benz s550, $3, 200

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“ Mercedes dealer said esp module and trans module was not communicating”

“ It’s not stuck , just put a new neutral safety switch on it at Mercedes 
thinking that was the problem. It goes in and out of gear fine now”

He says the tranny will shift and it comes alive but engine won’t start. Would 
be interesting to put the computer on it and see what comes up. I wonder if 
some other bits are upsetting the ESP module. 

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> On Nov 11, 2022, at 5:39 PM, Floyd Thursby  wrote:
> 
> 
> I don't think that is an issue with the 550 but maybe I'm wrong.  Sent the 
> guy a msg asking if it would come alive when you pushed the start button, at 
> least that would allow the car to be scanned
> 
> --FT
> 
> On 11/11/22 5:27 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes wrote:
>> Won’t start due to bad timing chain and balance shaft 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Nov 11, 2022, at 4:13 PM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Will not start, engine and transmission good. Maybe easy fix but I don’t 
>>> have time to mess with it. $3200 or best offer. Clean title. Has to be towed
>>> 
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Re: [MBZ] TEMPTATION: Will not start, 2007 Mercedes-Benz s550, $3, 200

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I don't think that is an issue with the 550 but maybe I'm wrong.  Sent 
the guy a msg asking if it would come alive when you pushed the start 
button, at least that would allow the car to be scanned


--FT

On 11/11/22 5:27 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes wrote:

Won’t start due to bad timing chain and balance shaft

Sent from my iPhone


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Will not start, engine and transmission good. Maybe easy fix but I don’t have 
time to mess with it. $3200 or best offer. Clean title. Has to be towed

https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/1182403415677957

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Re: [MBZ] TEMPTATION: Will not start, 2007 Mercedes-Benz s550, $3, 200

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Won’t start due to bad timing chain and balance shaft 

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> On Nov 11, 2022, at 4:13 PM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Will not start, engine and transmission good. Maybe easy fix but I don’t 
> have time to mess with it. $3200 or best offer. Clean title. Has to be towed
> 
> https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/1182403415677957
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[MBZ] TEMPTATION: Will not start, 2007 Mercedes-Benz s550,$3,200

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

Will not start, engine and transmission good. Maybe easy fix but I don’t 
have time to mess with it. $3200 or best offer. Clean title. Has to be 
towed


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Re: [MBZ] TEMPTATION: Two used Mercedes Benz for sale by owner - $2, 000 (Upstate SC)

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The V12 is in the hospital right now. I should probably get it back together 
this weekend 

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> 
> On 2022-10-25 10:26, dan penoff.com via Mercedes wrote:
>> You should already be on your way.
> 
> Drive the V12 up there.
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Re: [MBZ] TEMPTATION: Two used Mercedes Benz for sale by owner - $2, 000 (Upstate SC)

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On 2022-10-25 10:26, dan penoff.com via Mercedes wrote:

You should already be on your way.


Drive the V12 up there.

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Re: [MBZ] TEMPTATION: Two used Mercedes Benz for sale by owner - $2, 000 (Upstate SC)

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What is the big wet spot under it?

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> On Oct 25, 2022, at 10:45 AM, Allan Streib via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> On Tue, Oct 25, 2022, at 09:27, Jim Cathey via Mercedes wrote:
> 
>> Shouldn't be hard.  No one says "serious inquiries only" for a $2k car.
> 
> What about a $3K car?
> 
> https://lexington.craigslist.org/cto/d/lexington-1992-mercedes-300/7549737265.html
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Re: [MBZ] TEMPTATION: Two used Mercedes Benz for sale by owner - $2, 000 (Upstate SC)

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> What’s the deal? Unless they are rusty even 2k each sounds cheap. 

It is.  So that's not really the price.  Unless it's one of those "need money,
please sell my car" things (that old song).  Somebody should call on it,
but don't be surprised to find out there is a missing '0' in the price.

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Re: [MBZ] TEMPTATION: Two used Mercedes Benz for sale by owner - $2, 000 (Upstate SC)

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What’s the deal? Unless they are rusty even 2k each sounds cheap. 

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> You should already be on your way.
> 
> -D
> 
>> On Oct 25, 2022, at 10:24 AM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> MUST. RESIST.
>> 
>> 
>> one is a 1980 4SL model and the second is a 1989 560SL model
>> 
>> https://greenville.craigslist.org/cto/d/newry-two-used-mercedes-benz-for-sale/7549542604.html
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Re: [MBZ] TEMPTATION: Two used Mercedes Benz for sale by owner - $2, 000 (Upstate SC)

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He was probably so steamed about CL’s $5 charge for a car ad that he forgot a 0 
in the price. 

AZBob 

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> On Oct 25, 2022, at 8:45 AM, Allan Streib via Mercedes 
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> On Tue, Oct 25, 2022, at 09:27, Jim Cathey via Mercedes wrote:
> 
>> Shouldn't be hard.  No one says "serious inquiries only" for a $2k car.
> 
> What about a $3K car?
> 
> https://lexington.craigslist.org/cto/d/lexington-1992-mercedes-300/7549737265.html
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Re: [MBZ] TEMPTATION: Two used Mercedes Benz for sale by owner - $2, 000 (Upstate SC)

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On Tue, Oct 25, 2022, at 09:27, Jim Cathey via Mercedes wrote:

> Shouldn't be hard.  No one says "serious inquiries only" for a $2k car.

What about a $3K car?

https://lexington.craigslist.org/cto/d/lexington-1992-mercedes-300/7549737265.html

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Re: [MBZ] TEMPTATION: Two used Mercedes Benz for sale by owner - $2, 000 (Upstate SC)

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> MUST. RESIST.

Shouldn't be hard.  No one says "serious inquiries only" for a $2k car.
The listed price is click bait.

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Re: [MBZ] TEMPTATION: Two used Mercedes Benz for sale by owner - $2, 000 (Upstate SC)

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You should already be on your way.

-D

> On Oct 25, 2022, at 10:24 AM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> MUST. RESIST.
> 
> 
> one is a 1980 4SL model and the second is a 1989 560SL model
> 
> https://greenville.craigslist.org/cto/d/newry-two-used-mercedes-benz-for-sale/7549542604.html
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[MBZ] TEMPTATION: Two used Mercedes Benz for sale by owner - $2, 000 (Upstate SC)

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

MUST. RESIST.


one is a 1980 4SL model and the second is a 1989 560SL model

https://greenville.craigslist.org/cto/d/newry-two-used-mercedes-benz-for-sale/7549542604.html

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Re: [MBZ] Temptation 93 300CE $2200

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"Not more than a few minutes without overheating" speaks loudly of a
blown head gasket and intrusion of combustion gasses into the cooling
system... cooling system holds about 16 psi... compression gases make
140 +- at 400 F, so compression blows into coolant and makes it hot,
quickly.
Quick check, Open coolant tank, start engine, look for bubbles and surging
of coolant as cylinder pressure pushes out. If it does, head gasket is
leaking.


On Thu, Jul 29, 2021 at 5:03 AM Max Dillon via Mercedes <
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> Is 177k miles about when a head gasket job is required on those?
>
> Knock off a grand and that could be a deal.
>
> Max Dillon
> Charleston SC
>
>
> Jul 28, 2021 3:55:37 PM Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes <
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>
> > Looks fairly nice, same color as the 95E320, needs some work but doesn’t
> seem too bad unless head has warped
> >
> >
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Re: [MBZ] Temptation 93 300CE $2200

[Max Dillon via Mercedes]

Is 177k miles about when a head gasket job is required on those?

Knock off a grand and that could be a deal.

Max Dillon
Charleston SC


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> Looks fairly nice, same color as the 95E320, needs some work but doesn’t seem 
> too bad unless head has warped
> 
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Re: [MBZ] Temptation 93 300CE $2200

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I guess if your head has warped, than any Mercedes will look great.

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> Looks fairly nice, same color as the 95E320, needs some work but doesn’t
> seem too bad unless head has warped
>
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[MBZ] Temptation 93 300CE $2200

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Looks fairly nice, same color as the 95E320, needs some work but doesn’t seem 
too bad unless head has warped

https://raleigh.craigslist.org/cto/d/raleigh-1993-mb-300ce/7357588477.html

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Re: [MBZ] temptation

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But there are no bullet holes from the goon squads . . .

On 17/09/2020 12:54 PM, Meade Dillon via Mercedes wrote:

I'm thinking the car was driven too close to a mostly peaceful protest.
Something that was "mostly peaceful" occurred, the door handles are in the
possession of the peaceful protestors (color match!) and there are videos
circulating among certain peaceful protesters because they'd like to have
another peaceful conversation with the driver. Very distinctive color and
make are now a liability (the owner is a marked man and needs a low profile
replacement).  His/Her Loss Is Your Gain!
-
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[Meade Dillon via Mercedes]

I'm thinking the car was driven too close to a mostly peaceful protest.
Something that was "mostly peaceful" occurred, the door handles are in the
possession of the peaceful protestors (color match!) and there are videos
circulating among certain peaceful protesters because they'd like to have
another peaceful conversation with the driver. Very distinctive color and
make are now a liability (the owner is a marked man and needs a low profile
replacement).  His/Her Loss Is Your Gain!
-
Max
Charleston SC


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> I wonder why the rear door handles are missing. That car must have a
> story.
>
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Re: [MBZ] temptation

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I think it might have been. I vaguely recall seeing some others that color. VIN 
would tell

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> On Sep 17, 2020, at 12:14 PM, Randy Bennell via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Can't be a stock color.
> 
> RB
> 
> 
> 
>> On 17/09/2020 8:54 AM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes wrote:
>> oh that color
>> 
>> https://hickory.craigslist.org/cto/d/lenoir-2006-mercedes-cls500/7197660584.html
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Looks to be damage on the rear bumper too.

RB


On 17/09/2020 9:41 AM, Craig via Mercedes wrote:

On Thu, 17 Sep 2020 10:33:14 -0400 Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes
 wrote:


I wonder why the rear door handles are missing. That car must have a
story.

Is that why it, "needs a body man"?


Craig


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Can't be a stock color.

RB



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oh that color

https://hickory.craigslist.org/cto/d/lenoir-2006-mercedes-cls500/7197660584.html 






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On Thu, 17 Sep 2020 10:33:14 -0400 Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes
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> I wonder why the rear door handles are missing. That car must have a
> story. 

Is that why it, "needs a body man"?


Craig

> >> https://hickory.craigslist.org/cto/d/lenoir-2006-mercedes-cls500/7197660584.html

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I wonder why the rear door handles are missing. That car must have a story. 

--FT
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> On Sep 17, 2020, at 9:57 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes  
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> Why is all I can think of when I see that is “Turner and Hootch”?
> 
> -D
> 
>> On Sep 17, 2020, at 9:54 AM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes 
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>> oh that color
>> 
>> https://hickory.craigslist.org/cto/d/lenoir-2006-mercedes-cls500/7197660584.html
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Why is all I can think of when I see that is “Turner and Hootch”?

-D

> On Sep 17, 2020, at 9:54 AM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes 
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> oh that color
> 
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[MBZ] temptation

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

oh that color

https://hickory.craigslist.org/cto/d/lenoir-2006-mercedes-cls500/7197660584.html

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Re: [MBZ] temptation...

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Someone must have bought it, post deleted 

--FT
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> On Jul 18, 2020, at 12:21 PM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> 
> 
> 1. Reset the computers.
> 2. Drain the oil out of the TCU and repeat step 1.
> 3. Check the connector for oil.
> 4. Replace the TCU.
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Re: [MBZ] temptation...

[Mitch Haley via Mercedes]

1. Reset the computers.
2. Drain the oil out of the TCU and repeat step 1.
3. Check the connector for oil.
4. Replace the TCU.

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[MBZ] temptation...

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/684756205412110/

2000 Mercedes Ml 430
$775
Vehicles 
Listed a day ago in Vidalia, GA 




   Seller's description…

Motor runs great. Body in good shape. Interior is good. Cleans up nice. 
Wont shift out of first or second gear. New transmission installed... 
didnt fix the problem so I'd assume sensor of some sort. Dont care to 
mess with it as my mom got a new car and doesnt need it anyway. Located 
in Vidalia ga


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Re: [MBZ] Temptation CL ad

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

A tired old gas sedan. What's the interest?

On Sat, Jun 17, 2017 at 7:29 AM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> Here's the CL ad. https://charleston.craigslist.org/cto/6171901835.html
>
>
> On 6/16/17 10:01 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes wrote:
>
>> Let's have photos. I like the deal you got.
>>
>
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> large or petty,
> never give in except to convictions of honor and good sense.
> Never yield to force; never yield to the apparently overwhelming might of
> the enemy.”
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Re: [MBZ] Temptation

[OK Don via Mercedes]

From Wikipedia:
M116 engine:
Overview:
Manufacturer - Mercedes-Benz
Production - 1969–1991
Configuration - 90° V8 engine
Displacement - 3.5L, 3.8L, 4.2L
*Cylinder block alloy - Cast iron 1969-1978, Aluminum 1978-1991*
Cylinder head alloy - Aluminum
Valvetrain - SOHC

On Fri, Jun 16, 2017 at 11:16 PM, Curley McLain via Mercedes <
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> So are you saying that the M116 is an alum alloy block?  I thought it was
> still cast iron.
>



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Re: [MBZ] Temptation

[Curley McLain via Mercedes]

Why would the bolts pull out of cast iron?  I've only heard of that in 
alum blocks:  VW, GM northstarPOS etc.


Generally the threads in the block for a vergasser are 2x thread 
diameter long.  Diesels are more like 3x.



Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes 
June 17, 2017 at 7:56 AM
No its cast iron I'm pretty sure.


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Re: [MBZ] Temptation

[Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes]

They are black painted metal

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> On Jun 17, 2017, at 5:20 AM, Meade Dillon via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Looks like the valve cover that was holed is made of plastic...
> 
> -
> Max
> Charleston SC
> 
> On Sat, Jun 17, 2017 at 12:16 AM, Curley McLain via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> 
>> So are you saying that the M116 is an alum alloy block?  I thought it was
>> still cast iron.
>> 
>> Sheesh!  Northstar in an MB?  buncha crap!
>> 
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Re: [MBZ] Temptation

[Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes]

No its cast iron I'm pretty sure. 

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> On Jun 16, 2017, at 10:16 PM, Curley McLain via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> So are you saying that the M116 is an alum alloy block?  I thought it was 
> still cast iron.
> 
> Sheesh!  Northstar in an MB?  buncha crap!
>> Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes 
>> June 15, 2017 at 2:22 PM
>> If the bolts strip out while removing then yes.
>> 
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Re: [MBZ] Temptation

[Curley McLain via Mercedes]

Dunno.  The M116 engines I have seen have cast alum valve covers.


Meade Dillon via Mercedes 
June 17, 2017 at 6:20 AM
Looks like the valve cover that was holed is made of plastic...

-
Max
Charleston SC


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Re: [MBZ] Temptation. PICS

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

I didn't take any others.  This blue car the guy bought in 1989 a year 
old and had DDed it until the engine had its issue, so he kept it in 
half decent shape.  The maroon car is the turd, somewhat trashed but has 
the supposedly good engine.  We're going to get it shortly.


--FT


On 6/16/17 10:01 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes wrote:


Let's have photos. I like the deal you got.

Sent from my iPhone


On Jun 16, 2017, at 2:50 PM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes  
wrote:

So Max and I went and loaded up the more decent 420SEL that has the hole punched in the 
valve cover, I am thinking Kleb's explanation of the chain jumped the sprocket due to 
failure of tensioner/guide is probably what happened.  I guess that engine is trashed.  I 
got it unloaded from my trailer into the barn with minimal drama, we'll get load the turd 
with the "good" engine tomorrow.  This one does not have a key, it got burned 
up when the PO's trailer caught fire, so I guess I can't try to spin it for now.

This car is not half bad.  So now I have one with a bad engine (420) and bad 
tranny (300) that are both fairly decent cars.  Now I need to find a 300SEL 
with a bad motor and good tranny I can get for cheepcheep.

--FT




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Re: [MBZ] Temptation CL ad

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

Here's the CL ad. https://charleston.craigslist.org/cto/6171901835.html


On 6/16/17 10:01 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes wrote:

Let's have photos. I like the deal you got.


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petty,
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Never yield to force; never yield to the apparently overwhelming might of the 
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Re: [MBZ] Temptation -- INCOMINg PICS TO APPROVE

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

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Re: [MBZ] Temptation

[Meade Dillon via Mercedes]

Looks like the valve cover that was holed is made of plastic...

-
Max
Charleston SC

On Sat, Jun 17, 2017 at 12:16 AM, Curley McLain via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> So are you saying that the M116 is an alum alloy block?  I thought it was
> still cast iron.
>
> Sheesh!  Northstar in an MB?  buncha crap!
>
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Re: [MBZ] Temptation

[Curley McLain via Mercedes]

Yeah, cuz I want it and an engine!


Mitch Haley via Mercedes 
June 16, 2017 at 6:27 PM

So you have an ugly car with a hopefully solid drivetrain, a decent 
car that needs a trans, and a decent car that needs an engine?

Any reason why you can't put the trans out of the 420 turd in the 300?

Mitch.


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Re: [MBZ] Temptation

[Curley McLain via Mercedes]

So are you saying that the M116 is an alum alloy block?  I thought it 
was still cast iron.


Sheesh!  Northstar in an MB?  buncha crap!

Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes 
June 15, 2017 at 2:22 PM
If the bolts strip out while removing then yes.



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Re: [MBZ] Temptation

[Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes]

Let's have photos. I like the deal you got.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jun 16, 2017, at 2:50 PM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> So Max and I went and loaded up the more decent 420SEL that has the hole 
> punched in the valve cover, I am thinking Kleb's explanation of the chain 
> jumped the sprocket due to failure of tensioner/guide is probably what 
> happened.  I guess that engine is trashed.  I got it unloaded from my trailer 
> into the barn with minimal drama, we'll get load the turd with the "good" 
> engine tomorrow.  This one does not have a key, it got burned up when the 
> PO's trailer caught fire, so I guess I can't try to spin it for now.
> 
> This car is not half bad.  So now I have one with a bad engine (420) and bad 
> tranny (300) that are both fairly decent cars.  Now I need to find a 300SEL 
> with a bad motor and good tranny I can get for cheepcheep.
> 
> --FT
> 
> 
>> On 6/15/17 3:24 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote:
>> Another reason why I would never touch a W126 420SEL.  Unless I was parting 
>> it out.
>> 
>> -D
>> 
>> 
>>> On Jun 15, 2017, at 3:22 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> If the bolts strip out while removing then yes.
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
 On Jun 15, 2017, at 2:14 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes 
  wrote:
 
 And this is the one that needs the head bolt holes drilled with the 
 special jig and then Heilicoiled, right?  Tat’s because the head bolts 
 pull out when you try to torque them.
 
 -D
 
 
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> or petty,
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Re: [MBZ] Temptation

[Mitch Haley via Mercedes]

> 
> This car is not half bad.  So now I have one with a bad engine (420) and 
> bad tranny (300) that are both fairly decent cars.  Now I need to find a 
> 300SEL with a bad motor and good tranny I can get for cheepcheep.

So you have an ugly car with a hopefully solid drivetrain, a decent car that 
needs a trans, and a decent car that needs an engine?
Any reason why you can't put the trans out of the 420 turd in the 300?

Mitch.

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Re: [MBZ] Temptation

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

So Max and I went and loaded up the more decent 420SEL that has the hole 
punched in the valve cover, I am thinking Kleb's explanation of the 
chain jumped the sprocket due to failure of tensioner/guide is probably 
what happened.  I guess that engine is trashed.  I got it unloaded from 
my trailer into the barn with minimal drama, we'll get load the turd 
with the "good" engine tomorrow.  This one does not have a key, it got 
burned up when the PO's trailer caught fire, so I guess I can't try to 
spin it for now.


This car is not half bad.  So now I have one with a bad engine (420) and 
bad tranny (300) that are both fairly decent cars.  Now I need to find a 
300SEL with a bad motor and good tranny I can get for cheepcheep.


--FT


On 6/15/17 3:24 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote:

Another reason why I would never touch a W126 420SEL.  Unless I was parting it 
out.

-D



On Jun 15, 2017, at 3:22 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes 
 wrote:

If the bolts strip out while removing then yes.

Sent from my iPhone


On Jun 15, 2017, at 2:14 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes  
wrote:

And this is the one that needs the head bolt holes drilled with the special jig 
and then Heilicoiled, right?  Tat’s because the head bolts pull out when you 
try to torque them.

-D




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petty,
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Never yield to force; never yield to the apparently overwhelming might of the 
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Re: [MBZ] Temptation

[Curley McLain via Mercedes]

I can see the bite marks from here!


Floyd Thursby via Mercedes 
June 15, 2017 at 1:04 PM

Max doesn't know it yet but he is going to help me load them tomorrow 
and Saturday.  And Curley might have some interest in some bits of 
them, so there's that too.


Kleb has infected me.

--R




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Re: [MBZ] Temptation

[clay via Mercedes]

More than scrap value, but if they are able to be made to run, would sell for 
$1200 ea.

clay

> On Jun 14, 2017, at 7:17 AM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> What say you Max?  I wonder what these things are.  I might have to go look 
> at them, I need to become the Kleb of Charleston.
> 
> https://charleston.craigslist.org/cto/6171901835.html
> 
> -- 
> --FT
> Winston Churchill:
> “Never give in--never, never, never, never, in nothing great or small, large 
> or petty,
> never give in except to convictions of honor and good sense.
> Never yield to force; never yield to the apparently overwhelming might of the 
> enemy.”
> 
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Re: [MBZ] Temptation

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

OK so it seems like it is not worth fooling with the engine unless I can 
get it to fire off and run OK.  I guess I could just do the swap and 
unload the half-decent car then and knacker the turd and buggered 
engine, or sell the whole package to Curley.


I know where there is a dead 560SEL too, I'm trying to track that down.

--FT


On 6/15/17 3:24 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote:

Another reason why I would never touch a W126 420SEL.  Unless I was parting it 
out.

-D



On Jun 15, 2017, at 3:22 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes 
 wrote:

If the bolts strip out while removing then yes.

Sent from my iPhone


On Jun 15, 2017, at 2:14 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes  
wrote:

And this is the one that needs the head bolt holes drilled with the special jig 
and then Heilicoiled, right?  Tat’s because the head bolts pull out when you 
try to torque them.

-D




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petty,
never give in except to convictions of honor and good sense.
Never yield to force; never yield to the apparently overwhelming might of the 
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Re: [MBZ] Temptation

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

Another reason why I would never touch a W126 420SEL.  Unless I was parting it 
out.

-D


> On Jun 15, 2017, at 3:22 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> If the bolts strip out while removing then yes. 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Jun 15, 2017, at 2:14 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> And this is the one that needs the head bolt holes drilled with the special 
>> jig and then Heilicoiled, right?  Tat’s because the head bolts pull out when 
>> you try to torque them.
>> 
>> -D
>> 
>> 


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Re: [MBZ] Temptation

[Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes]

If the bolts strip out while removing then yes. 

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jun 15, 2017, at 2:14 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> And this is the one that needs the head bolt holes drilled with the special 
> jig and then Heilicoiled, right?  Tat’s because the head bolts pull out when 
> you try to torque them.
> 
> -D
> 
> 
>> On Jun 15, 2017, at 3:11 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> The heads will need to be pulled and a valve job done for sure. 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Jun 15, 2017, at 2:07 PM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> You think the engine is trashed?  Could it be salvaged?  Would the valve 
>>> stems look bent or something if it jumped timing on that bank?  I don't 
>>> know much of anything about these gassers so some suggestions would be very 
>>> helpful.
>>> 
>>> --FT
>>> 
> 
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Re: [MBZ] Temptation

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

And this is the one that needs the head bolt holes drilled with the special jig 
and then Heilicoiled, right?  Tat’s because the head bolts pull out when you 
try to torque them.

-D


> On Jun 15, 2017, at 3:11 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> The heads will need to be pulled and a valve job done for sure. 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Jun 15, 2017, at 2:07 PM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> You think the engine is trashed?  Could it be salvaged?  Would the valve 
>> stems look bent or something if it jumped timing on that bank?  I don't know 
>> much of anything about these gassers so some suggestions would be very 
>> helpful.
>> 
>> --FT
>> 


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Re: [MBZ] Temptation

[Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes]

The heads will need to be pulled and a valve job done for sure. 

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jun 15, 2017, at 2:07 PM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> You think the engine is trashed?  Could it be salvaged?  Would the valve 
> stems look bent or something if it jumped timing on that bank?  I don't know 
> much of anything about these gassers so some suggestions would be very 
> helpful.
> 
> --FT
> 
> 
>> On 6/15/17 3:02 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes wrote:
>> Not bad, not bad at all.
>> 
>> 
>> Btw what happen is a guide rail broke and jumped time, which caused the 
>> chain the bust the valve cover. All the shop needed to do was replace the 
>> guides, and chain and tensioner while at it. This is pretty much a 
>> maintenance item.
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Jun 15, 2017, at 1:04 PM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> So I went and looked at these two cars, both are 420SELs.   The black one 
>>> the guy bought a year old in 1989 and has driven it since up until a year 
>>> ago when it started having engine problems of some vague sort.  It doesn't 
>>> look too bad, he took fairly good care of it.  It's dirty now and the paint 
>>> is faded but the interior was half nice.  Some poosing on the paint would 
>>> help a lot.  He took it to a local indy who fooled with it for a week or 
>>> two, he went and got it and a week later something happened, there is a 
>>> hole in the front of the left bank valve cover that looks like the timing 
>>> chain punched it, but the chain looked OK from what I could see there.  
>>> Anyway he takes it some guy in the hood and parks it out front.  He knows 
>>> some other guy with a 420SEL with a supposedly good motor, and buys it.  
>>> This car is a turd. The PO lost the key when his trailer burned down, so no 
>>> key to try to spin it but the guy says it was running.  The place where it 
>>> is parked was supposed to swap engines but it never happened, now both are 
>>> dead and he has to unload them.  I got them both for $425, maybe at least 
>>> one good engine if not both, one half-decent car, the other a turd.  I am 
>>> crazy but I can pick off some parts worth a $100 or $200 or so and scrap 
>>> the turd.  They both had good wheels so there's that.
>>> 
>>> Max doesn't know it yet but he is going to help me load them tomorrow and 
>>> Saturday.  And Curley might have some interest in some bits of them, so 
>>> there's that too.
>>> 
>>> Kleb has infected me.
>>> 
>>> --R
>>> 
>>> 
 On 6/14/17 10:36 AM, Meade Dillon via Mercedes wrote:
 Looks to me like both are gassers, wonder if there is an engine there for
 Curly?  Not to far from my work, maybe a fifteen minute drive, we can
 combine with lunch at that soul food place in North Chuck that we went to
 once?
 
 -
 Max
 Charleston SC
 
 On Wed, Jun 14, 2017 at 10:17 AM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes <
 mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
 
> What say you Max?  I wonder what these things are.  I might have to go
> look at them, I need to become the Kleb of Charleston.
> 
> https://charleston.craigslist.org/cto/6171901835.html
> 
> --
> --FT
> Winston Churchill:
> “Never give in--never, never, never, never, in nothing great or small,
> large or petty,
> never give in except to convictions of honor and good sense.
> Never yield to force; never yield to the apparently overwhelming might of
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>>> large or petty,
>>> never give in except to convictions of honor and good sense.
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Re: [MBZ] Temptation

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

You think the engine is trashed?  Could it be salvaged?  Would the valve 
stems look bent or something if it jumped timing on that bank?  I don't 
know much of anything about these gassers so some suggestions would be 
very helpful.


--FT


On 6/15/17 3:02 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes wrote:

Not bad, not bad at all.


Btw what happen is a guide rail broke and jumped time, which caused the chain 
the bust the valve cover. All the shop needed to do was replace the guides, and 
chain and tensioner while at it. This is pretty much a maintenance item.

Sent from my iPhone


On Jun 15, 2017, at 1:04 PM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes  
wrote:

So I went and looked at these two cars, both are 420SELs.   The black one the 
guy bought a year old in 1989 and has driven it since up until a year ago when 
it started having engine problems of some vague sort.  It doesn't look too bad, 
he took fairly good care of it.  It's dirty now and the paint is faded but the 
interior was half nice.  Some poosing on the paint would help a lot.  He took 
it to a local indy who fooled with it for a week or two, he went and got it and 
a week later something happened, there is a hole in the front of the left bank 
valve cover that looks like the timing chain punched it, but the chain looked 
OK from what I could see there.  Anyway he takes it some guy in the hood and 
parks it out front.  He knows some other guy with a 420SEL with a supposedly 
good motor, and buys it.  This car is a turd. The PO lost the key when his 
trailer burned down, so no key to try to spin it but the guy says it was 
running.  The place where it is parked was supposed to swap engines but it 
never happened, now both are dead and he has to unload them.  I got them both 
for $425, maybe at least one good engine if not both, one half-decent car, the 
other a turd.  I am crazy but I can pick off some parts worth a $100 or $200 or 
so and scrap the turd.  They both had good wheels so there's that.

Max doesn't know it yet but he is going to help me load them tomorrow and 
Saturday.  And Curley might have some interest in some bits of them, so there's 
that too.

Kleb has infected me.

--R



On 6/14/17 10:36 AM, Meade Dillon via Mercedes wrote:
Looks to me like both are gassers, wonder if there is an engine there for
Curly?  Not to far from my work, maybe a fifteen minute drive, we can
combine with lunch at that soul food place in North Chuck that we went to
once?

-
Max
Charleston SC

On Wed, Jun 14, 2017 at 10:17 AM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:


What say you Max?  I wonder what these things are.  I might have to go
look at them, I need to become the Kleb of Charleston.

https://charleston.craigslist.org/cto/6171901835.html

--
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large or petty,
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Re: [MBZ] Temptation

[Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes]

Not bad, not bad at all. 


Btw what happen is a guide rail broke and jumped time, which caused the chain 
the bust the valve cover. All the shop needed to do was replace the guides, and 
chain and tensioner while at it. This is pretty much a maintenance item.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jun 15, 2017, at 1:04 PM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> So I went and looked at these two cars, both are 420SELs.   The black one the 
> guy bought a year old in 1989 and has driven it since up until a year ago 
> when it started having engine problems of some vague sort.  It doesn't look 
> too bad, he took fairly good care of it.  It's dirty now and the paint is 
> faded but the interior was half nice.  Some poosing on the paint would help a 
> lot.  He took it to a local indy who fooled with it for a week or two, he 
> went and got it and a week later something happened, there is a hole in the 
> front of the left bank valve cover that looks like the timing chain punched 
> it, but the chain looked OK from what I could see there.  Anyway he takes it 
> some guy in the hood and parks it out front.  He knows some other guy with a 
> 420SEL with a supposedly good motor, and buys it.  This car is a turd. The PO 
> lost the key when his trailer burned down, so no key to try to spin it but 
> the guy says it was running.  The place where it is parked was supposed to 
> swap engines but it never happened, now both are dead and he has to unload 
> them.  I got them both for $425, maybe at least one good engine if not both, 
> one half-decent car, the other a turd.  I am crazy but I can pick off some 
> parts worth a $100 or $200 or so and scrap the turd.  They both had good 
> wheels so there's that.
> 
> Max doesn't know it yet but he is going to help me load them tomorrow and 
> Saturday.  And Curley might have some interest in some bits of them, so 
> there's that too.
> 
> Kleb has infected me.
> 
> --R
> 
> 
>> On 6/14/17 10:36 AM, Meade Dillon via Mercedes wrote:
>> Looks to me like both are gassers, wonder if there is an engine there for
>> Curly?  Not to far from my work, maybe a fifteen minute drive, we can
>> combine with lunch at that soul food place in North Chuck that we went to
>> once?
>> 
>> -
>> Max
>> Charleston SC
>> 
>> On Wed, Jun 14, 2017 at 10:17 AM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes <
>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>> 
>>> What say you Max?  I wonder what these things are.  I might have to go
>>> look at them, I need to become the Kleb of Charleston.
>>> 
>>> https://charleston.craigslist.org/cto/6171901835.html
>>> 
>>> --
>>> --FT
>>> Winston Churchill:
>>> “Never give in--never, never, never, never, in nothing great or small,
>>> large or petty,
>>> never give in except to convictions of honor and good sense.
>>> Never yield to force; never yield to the apparently overwhelming might of
>>> the enemy.”
>>> 
>>> 
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> or petty,
> never give in except to convictions of honor and good sense.
> Never yield to force; never yield to the apparently overwhelming might of the 
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Re: [MBZ] Temptation

[Max Dillon via Mercedes]

That'll be my lunch time work out, loading a car on a trailer...
-- 
Max Dillon
Charleston SC
'87 300TD
'95 E300

On June 15, 2017 2:04:49 PM EDT, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes 
 wrote:
>So I went and looked at these two cars, both are 420SELs.   The black 
>one the guy bought a year old in 1989 and has driven it since up until
>a 
>year ago when it started having engine problems of some vague sort.  It
>
>doesn't look too bad, he took fairly good care of it.  It's dirty now 
>and the paint is faded but the interior was half nice.  Some poosing on
>
>the paint would help a lot.  He took it to a local indy who fooled with
>
>it for a week or two, he went and got it and a week later something 
>happened, there is a hole in the front of the left bank valve cover
>that 
>looks like the timing chain punched it, but the chain looked OK from 
>what I could see there.  Anyway he takes it some guy in the hood and 
>parks it out front.  He knows some other guy with a 420SEL with a 
>supposedly good motor, and buys it.  This car is a turd. The PO lost
>the 
>key when his trailer burned down, so no key to try to spin it but the 
>guy says it was running.  The place where it is parked was supposed to 
>swap engines but it never happened, now both are dead and he has to 
>unload them.  I got them both for $425, maybe at least one good engine 
>if not both, one half-decent car, the other a turd.  I am crazy but I 
>can pick off some parts worth a $100 or $200 or so and scrap the turd. 
>
>They both had good wheels so there's that.
>
>Max doesn't know it yet but he is going to help me load them tomorrow 
>and Saturday.  And Curley might have some interest in some bits of
>them, 
>so there's that too.
>
>Kleb has infected me.
>
>--R
>
>
>On 6/14/17 10:36 AM, Meade Dillon via Mercedes wrote:
>> Looks to me like both are gassers, wonder if there is an engine there
>for
>> Curly?  Not to far from my work, maybe a fifteen minute drive, we can
>> combine with lunch at that soul food place in North Chuck that we
>went to
>> once?
>>
>> -
>> Max
>> Charleston SC
>>
>> On Wed, Jun 14, 2017 at 10:17 AM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes <
>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>>
>>> What say you Max?  I wonder what these things are.  I might have to
>go
>>> look at them, I need to become the Kleb of Charleston.
>>>
>>> https://charleston.craigslist.org/cto/6171901835.html
>>>
>>> --
>>> --FT
>>> Winston Churchill:
>>> “Never give in--never, never, never, never, in nothing great or
>small,
>>> large or petty,
>>> never give in except to convictions of honor and good sense.
>>> Never yield to force; never yield to the apparently overwhelming
>might of
>>> the enemy.”
>>>
>>>
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>large or petty,
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>Never yield to force; never yield to the apparently overwhelming might
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Re: [MBZ] Temptation

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

So I went and looked at these two cars, both are 420SELs.   The black 
one the guy bought a year old in 1989 and has driven it since up until a 
year ago when it started having engine problems of some vague sort.  It 
doesn't look too bad, he took fairly good care of it.  It's dirty now 
and the paint is faded but the interior was half nice.  Some poosing on 
the paint would help a lot.  He took it to a local indy who fooled with 
it for a week or two, he went and got it and a week later something 
happened, there is a hole in the front of the left bank valve cover that 
looks like the timing chain punched it, but the chain looked OK from 
what I could see there.  Anyway he takes it some guy in the hood and 
parks it out front.  He knows some other guy with a 420SEL with a 
supposedly good motor, and buys it.  This car is a turd. The PO lost the 
key when his trailer burned down, so no key to try to spin it but the 
guy says it was running.  The place where it is parked was supposed to 
swap engines but it never happened, now both are dead and he has to 
unload them.  I got them both for $425, maybe at least one good engine 
if not both, one half-decent car, the other a turd.  I am crazy but I 
can pick off some parts worth a $100 or $200 or so and scrap the turd.  
They both had good wheels so there's that.


Max doesn't know it yet but he is going to help me load them tomorrow 
and Saturday.  And Curley might have some interest in some bits of them, 
so there's that too.


Kleb has infected me.

--R


On 6/14/17 10:36 AM, Meade Dillon via Mercedes wrote:

Looks to me like both are gassers, wonder if there is an engine there for
Curly?  Not to far from my work, maybe a fifteen minute drive, we can
combine with lunch at that soul food place in North Chuck that we went to
once?

-
Max
Charleston SC

On Wed, Jun 14, 2017 at 10:17 AM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:


What say you Max?  I wonder what these things are.  I might have to go
look at them, I need to become the Kleb of Charleston.

https://charleston.craigslist.org/cto/6171901835.html

--
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large or petty,
never give in except to convictions of honor and good sense.
Never yield to force; never yield to the apparently overwhelming might of
the enemy.”


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Never yield to force; never yield to the apparently overwhelming might of the 
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Re: [MBZ] Temptation

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

RESPONSE TO QUERY:

Rich the cars don't run but we have the title for both and one 
is missing the key.  The car is located in charleston. I have to have them gone 
by noon Saturday

I'm thinking scrap prices for them, $500 max depending, and probably not even 
that. maybe not even $400.  Car(s)???  Of course he is not specific as to where 
they are, or when I could look at them, per my query.  I don't think I am 
dealing with a Rhodes Scholar here...

--FT


On 6/14/17 10:26 AM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes wrote:

They're both LWB, so definitely not SDs.
Headlights imply that they're new enough to be SDLs, but they might be SELs.


On June 14, 2017 at 10:17 AM Floyd Thursby via Mercedes  
wrote:


What say you Max?  I wonder what these things are.  I might have to go
look at them, I need to become the Kleb of Charleston.

https://charleston.craigslist.org/cto/6171901835.html

--
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never give in except to convictions of honor and good sense.
Never yield to force; never yield to the apparently overwhelming might of the 
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Re: [MBZ] Temptation

[Meade Dillon via Mercedes]

Looks to me like both are gassers, wonder if there is an engine there for
Curly?  Not to far from my work, maybe a fifteen minute drive, we can
combine with lunch at that soul food place in North Chuck that we went to
once?

-
Max
Charleston SC

On Wed, Jun 14, 2017 at 10:17 AM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> What say you Max?  I wonder what these things are.  I might have to go
> look at them, I need to become the Kleb of Charleston.
>
> https://charleston.craigslist.org/cto/6171901835.html
>
> --
> --FT
> Winston Churchill:
> “Never give in--never, never, never, never, in nothing great or small,
> large or petty,
> never give in except to convictions of honor and good sense.
> Never yield to force; never yield to the apparently overwhelming might of
> the enemy.”
>
>
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Re: [MBZ] Temptation

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

I sent the guy an email, there is a phone # so if I don't hear back I 
might call him.  If the map is any indication they look fairly close by 
so would not be hard to go look at them. Depending on what they are I 
could get some spares for the SEC and if one of them might happen to be 
a 300SEL I could maybe get some bits and a tranny for the $200POSEL


--R


On 6/14/17 10:26 AM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes wrote:

They're both LWB, so definitely not SDs.
Headlights imply that they're new enough to be SDLs, but they might be SELs.


On June 14, 2017 at 10:17 AM Floyd Thursby via Mercedes  
wrote:


What say you Max?  I wonder what these things are.  I might have to go
look at them, I need to become the Kleb of Charleston.

https://charleston.craigslist.org/cto/6171901835.html

--
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petty,
never give in except to convictions of honor and good sense.
Never yield to force; never yield to the apparently overwhelming might of the 
enemy.”


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Re: [MBZ] Temptation

[Mitch Haley via Mercedes]

They're both LWB, so definitely not SDs.
Headlights imply that they're new enough to be SDLs, but they might be SELs.

> On June 14, 2017 at 10:17 AM Floyd Thursby via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> 
> What say you Max?  I wonder what these things are.  I might have to go 
> look at them, I need to become the Kleb of Charleston.
> 
> https://charleston.craigslist.org/cto/6171901835.html
> 
> -- 
> --FT
> Winston Churchill:
> “Never give in--never, never, never, never, in nothing great or small, large 
> or petty,
> never give in except to convictions of honor and good sense.
> Never yield to force; never yield to the apparently overwhelming might of the 
> enemy.”
> 
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[MBZ] Temptation

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

What say you Max?  I wonder what these things are.  I might have to go 
look at them, I need to become the Kleb of Charleston.


https://charleston.craigslist.org/cto/6171901835.html

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--FT
Winston Churchill:
“Never give in--never, never, never, never, in nothing great or small, large or 
petty,
never give in except to convictions of honor and good sense.
Never yield to force; never yield to the apparently overwhelming might of the 
enemy.”


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