Re: [MBZ] To tow or not to tow
Yeah but the proposed weight to be towed is relatively light and if the auto box is in good condition (ie. no slippage) and he manually keeps the engine revs up and starts in 1st gear, he should be alright. Also check the fluid level and if old change it before towing. If it was a heavy towing weight, constantly towing, towing in hot weather or living in very hilly country I would say yes fit an extra oil cooler. While on the subject of towing, I will advise prospective car buyers to be careful when buying a vehicle fitted with a tow bar. Towing puts a lot of strain on the drive train of a vehicle and if possible buy a vehicle without a towbar. - Original Message - From: "Potter, Tom E" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "Mercedes Discussion List" Sent: Wednesday, September 06, 2006 9:53 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] To tow or not to tow Geez Man, you live in western NC. Them mountains be transmission killers without a trailer. I am no expert on M-B automatic transmissions, but I do have experience destroying GM automatic transmissions by towing with them. The automotive and light truck transmissions heat up significantly and destroy the clutches if you add much trailer weight. I would only tow with the heavy duty truck transmissions. Tom Potter
Re: [MBZ] To tow or not to tow
That I can see.Makes sense..But still for towing I think a remote cooler is a much better idea. Maybe a combination of the two is better than just one or the other. I have always just deleted the one in the radiator and had good luck.But maybe that was just luck...LOL Mike - Original Message - From: "Jim Cathey" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Mercedes Discussion List" Sent: Wednesday, September 06, 2006 9:27 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] To tow or not to tow There is no way a cooler built in to the radiator can cool enough for towingIt will actually add heat to the tranny. It's supposed to. Heats the tranny up to working temperature faster in the morning. Think of it as a first-order temperature regulator mechanism more than just a cooler. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] To tow or not to tow
There is no way a cooler built in to the radiator can cool enough for towingIt will actually add heat to the tranny. It's supposed to. Heats the tranny up to working temperature faster in the morning. Think of it as a first-order temperature regulator mechanism more than just a cooler. -- Jim
Re: [MBZ] To tow or not to tow
Add a big tranny cooler and get rid of the (if MB has one) loop through the radiator for cooling. There is no way a cooler built in to the radiator can cool enough for towingIt will actually add heat to the tranny. Mike, Who has towed many thousand miles with light truck and car trannies. - Original Message - From: "Potter, Tom E" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "Mercedes Discussion List" Sent: Wednesday, September 06, 2006 8:23 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] To tow or not to tow Geez Man, you live in western NC. Them mountains be transmission killers without a trailer. I am no expert on M-B automatic transmissions, but I do have experience destroying GM automatic transmissions by towing with them. The automotive and light truck transmissions heat up significantly and destroy the clutches if you add much trailer weight. I would only tow with the heavy duty truck transmissions. Tom Potter -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Richard and Suzanna McGee Sent: Tuesday, September 05, 2006 9:02 PM To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: [MBZ] To tow or not to tow Have lurked here for years now and thanks to all who have brought light to my occasional issues. I know this has been covered in ages past but I can't remember the details so I hope some of you will fill me in. I need to use my 82 300D Turbo to do some towing of a 5 x 8 foot enclosed cargo trailer. I can't find any information on limits or towing capacities on this vehicle. I first need to add the hitch. Where is the best place to look? I should reject any idea of bumper mounted hitches, right? I'm interested in towing 1500 - 2000 lbs. Will the vehicle do it safely? What about stress on the transmission? What should I consider as an acceptable tongue weight? Please advise if you have experience with these issues. Thanks, D. McGee Western NC 1982 300D w/215K 1979 350 SEL Euro 4sp. Stick gasser (sold) ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] To tow or not to tow
Geez Man, you live in western NC. Them mountains be transmission killers without a trailer. I am no expert on M-B automatic transmissions, but I do have experience destroying GM automatic transmissions by towing with them. The automotive and light truck transmissions heat up significantly and destroy the clutches if you add much trailer weight. I would only tow with the heavy duty truck transmissions. Tom Potter -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Richard and Suzanna McGee Sent: Tuesday, September 05, 2006 9:02 PM To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: [MBZ] To tow or not to tow Have lurked here for years now and thanks to all who have brought light to my occasional issues. I know this has been covered in ages past but I can't remember the details so I hope some of you will fill me in. I need to use my 82 300D Turbo to do some towing of a 5 x 8 foot enclosed cargo trailer. I can't find any information on limits or towing capacities on this vehicle. I first need to add the hitch. Where is the best place to look? I should reject any idea of bumper mounted hitches, right? I'm interested in towing 1500 - 2000 lbs. Will the vehicle do it safely? What about stress on the transmission? What should I consider as an acceptable tongue weight? Please advise if you have experience with these issues. Thanks, D. McGee Western NC 1982 300D w/215K 1979 350 SEL Euro 4sp. Stick gasser (sold) ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] To tow or not to tow
I have a drawing that I got from Hans - but it's for a 126. On 9/6/06, Robert & Tara Ludwick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Someone here on the list had made a set of plans for a beautiful receiver hitch . I have a copy on one of my computers...somewhere. Maybe someone else has them handy. -Robert -- OK Don, KD5NRO Norman, OK "The Americans will always do the right thing... after they've exhausted all the alternatives." Sir Winston Churchill '90 300D, '87 300SDL, '81 240D, '78 450SLC, '97 Ply Grand Voyager
Re: [MBZ] To tow or not to tow
Someone here on the list had made a set of plans for a beautiful receiver hitch . I have a copy on one of my computers...somewhere. Maybe someone else has them handy. -Robert Richard and Suzanna McGee wrote: Have lurked here for years now and thanks to all who have brought light to my occasional issues. I know this has been covered in ages past but I can't remember the details so I hope some of you will fill me in. I need to use my 82 300D Turbo to do some towing of a 5 x 8 foot enclosed cargo trailer. I can't find any information on limits or towing capacities on this vehicle. I first need to add the hitch. Where is the best place to look? I should reject any idea of bumper mounted hitches, right? I'm interested in towing 1500 - 2000 lbs. Will the vehicle do it safely? What about stress on the transmission? What should I consider as an acceptable tongue weight? Please advise if you have experience with these issues. Thanks, D. McGee Western NC 1982 300D w/215K 1979 350 SEL Euro 4sp. Stick gasser (sold) ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] To tow or not to tow
I have a tow bar set up on an old 123 from South Africa which is about to go to the graveyard, but it is in Australia so shipping is going to be a killer. Anyway have a look around your local wrecking yards for S/H tow bars. 2000lbs is nothing, not even a tonne (we speak mostly metric over here in Oz), so I would not think you would have a problem but use the gear stick to keep the revs up going up hills. More revs equals more oil flow through the tranny. From memory I think you are allowed 200kgs downforce on your backside but my memory is wonky. - Original Message - From: "Richard and Suzanna McGee" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Wednesday, September 06, 2006 11:31 AM Subject: [MBZ] To tow or not to tow Have lurked here for years now and thanks to all who have brought light to my occasional issues. I know this has been covered in ages past but I can't remember the details so I hope some of you will fill me in. I need to use my 82 300D Turbo to do some towing of a 5 x 8 foot enclosed cargo trailer. I can't find any information on limits or towing capacities on this vehicle. I first need to add the hitch. Where is the best place to look? I should reject any idea of bumper mounted hitches, right? I'm interested in towing 1500 - 2000 lbs. Will the vehicle do it safely? What about stress on the transmission? What should I consider as an acceptable tongue weight? Please advise if you have experience with these issues. Thanks, D. McGee Western NC 1982 300D w/215K 1979 350 SEL Euro 4sp. Stick gasser (sold) ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.405 / Virus Database: 268.11.7/438 - Release Date: 5/09/2006
[MBZ] To tow or not to tow
Have lurked here for years now and thanks to all who have brought light to my occasional issues. I know this has been covered in ages past but I can't remember the details so I hope some of you will fill me in. I need to use my 82 300D Turbo to do some towing of a 5 x 8 foot enclosed cargo trailer. I can't find any information on limits or towing capacities on this vehicle. I first need to add the hitch. Where is the best place to look? I should reject any idea of bumper mounted hitches, right? I'm interested in towing 1500 - 2000 lbs. Will the vehicle do it safely? What about stress on the transmission? What should I consider as an acceptable tongue weight? Please advise if you have experience with these issues. Thanks, D. McGee Western NC 1982 300D w/215K 1979 350 SEL Euro 4sp. Stick gasser (sold)
