Re: [MBZ] Tools for adjusting front wheel bearings

2007-09-18 Thread Scott Ritchey
In my experience (comparing a dial gage with feel) the nut setting is
right when you can just feel the slightest movement when you push/pull on
the brake disk.

Scott Ritchey

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Subject: Re: [MBZ] Tools for adjusting front wheel bearings

On 9/14/07, Craig McCluskey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Found a dial indicator on eBay which has 0.0001 resolution (quite
 adequate for adjusting front wheel bearings :-) ) for $15. The fellow says
 he has 12, so I thought I'd pass the information along.


http://cgi.ebay.com/dial-indicator_W0QQitemZ200146195835QQihZ010QQcategoryZ2
5272QQcmdZViewItem



I've never done wheel bearings. Don't you need a hook or at least some
way to attach a wire to test the preload?  I can't tell from the
picture whether this item has a suitable fixture.

Alex Chamberlain
'87 300D Turbo et al.

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Re: [MBZ] Tools for adjusting front wheel bearings

2007-09-18 Thread Mitch Haley


Scott Ritchey wrote:
 
 In my experience (comparing a dial gage with feel) the nut setting is
 right when you can just feel the slightest movement when you push/pull on
 the brake disk.

That may vary. It's been a while, but I believe my minimum feel is in the
range of .001 to .002. I had no problem adjusting motorcycle valves to
.004-.006 and .008-.010 by feel, and then checking with a go-nogo gauge to
make sure it was in range (It always was). I would not have tried do anything
below .002 by feel, it would have been a waste of time instead of a time-saver. 

If it's a one-off job, instead of one you do daily and develop a feel for,
I'd use proper measuring tools every time. 

Mitch.

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Re: [MBZ] Tools for adjusting front wheel bearings

2007-09-18 Thread Craig McCluskey
On Tue, 18 Sep 2007 06:38:55 -0400 Mitch Haley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 
 
 Scott Ritchey wrote:
  
  In my experience (comparing a dial gage with feel) the nut setting
  is right when you can just feel the slightest movement when you
  push/pull on the brake disk.
 
 If it's a one-off job, instead of one you do daily and develop a feel
 for, I'd use proper measuring tools every time. 

Yes, particularly with MB front wheel bearings where the manual is very
specific.


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] Tools for adjusting front wheel bearings

2007-09-17 Thread Alex Chamberlain
On 9/14/07, Craig McCluskey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Found a dial indicator on eBay which has 0.0001 resolution (quite
 adequate for adjusting front wheel bearings :-) ) for $15. The fellow says
 he has 12, so I thought I'd pass the information along.

 http://cgi.ebay.com/dial-indicator_W0QQitemZ200146195835QQihZ010QQcategoryZ25272QQcmdZViewItem



I've never done wheel bearings. Don't you need a hook or at least some
way to attach a wire to test the preload?  I can't tell from the
picture whether this item has a suitable fixture.

Alex Chamberlain
'87 300D Turbo et al.

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Re: [MBZ] Tools for adjusting front wheel bearings

2007-09-17 Thread Craig McCluskey
On Mon, 17 Sep 2007 20:46:34 -0700 Alex Chamberlain
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 On 9/14/07, Craig McCluskey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Found a dial indicator on eBay which has 0.0001 resolution (quite
  adequate for adjusting front wheel bearings :-) ) for $15. The fellow
  says he has 12, so I thought I'd pass the information along.
 
  http://cgi.ebay.com/dial-indicator_W0QQitemZ200146195835QQihZ010QQcategoryZ25272QQcmdZViewItem
 
 
 
 I've never done wheel bearings. Don't you need a hook or at least some
 way to attach a wire to test the preload?  I can't tell from the
 picture whether this item has a suitable fixture.

You fasten the dial indicator to the brake disk hub with a magnetic base
and put the tip of the indicator on the end of the spindle. Then you grab
the brake disk with both hands and move it in and out. The amount of
movement the dial indicator should show should be about 0.0005. [That's
the gist of what the manual says, anyhow.]


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] Tools for adjusting front wheel bearings

2007-09-17 Thread Craig McCluskey
On Mon, 17 Sep 2007 21:30:24 -0700 Alex Chamberlain
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 On 9/17/07, Craig McCluskey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  On Mon, 17 Sep 2007 20:46:34 -0700 Alex Chamberlain
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
   On 9/14/07, Craig McCluskey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Found a dial indicator on eBay which has 0.0001 resolution (quite
adequate for adjusting front wheel bearings :-) ) for $15. The
fellow says he has 12, so I thought I'd pass the information
along.
   
http://cgi.ebay.com/dial-indicator_W0QQitemZ200146195835QQihZ010QQcategoryZ25272QQcmdZViewItem
   
   
  
   I've never done wheel bearings. Don't you need a hook or at least
   some way to attach a wire to test the preload?  I can't tell from
   the picture whether this item has a suitable fixture.
 
  You fasten the dial indicator to the brake disk hub with a magnetic
  base and put the tip of the indicator on the end of the spindle. Then
  you grab the brake disk with both hands and move it in and out. The
  amount of movement the dial indicator should show should be about
  0.0005. [That's the gist of what the manual says, anyhow.]
 
 
 Oh, OK, that makes sense.  I get it now.  So where did you get the
 magnetic base?  Same seller?

No, from a different seller. Just search eBay for dial indicator and
you'll get some magnetic bases, too. I don't recall if I also searched
for magnetic base.


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] Tools for adjusting front wheel bearings

2007-09-17 Thread Alex Chamberlain
On 9/17/07, Craig McCluskey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On Mon, 17 Sep 2007 20:46:34 -0700 Alex Chamberlain
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  On 9/14/07, Craig McCluskey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   Found a dial indicator on eBay which has 0.0001 resolution (quite
   adequate for adjusting front wheel bearings :-) ) for $15. The fellow
   says he has 12, so I thought I'd pass the information along.
  
   http://cgi.ebay.com/dial-indicator_W0QQitemZ200146195835QQihZ010QQcategoryZ25272QQcmdZViewItem
  
  
 
  I've never done wheel bearings. Don't you need a hook or at least some
  way to attach a wire to test the preload?  I can't tell from the
  picture whether this item has a suitable fixture.

 You fasten the dial indicator to the brake disk hub with a magnetic base
 and put the tip of the indicator on the end of the spindle. Then you grab
 the brake disk with both hands and move it in and out. The amount of
 movement the dial indicator should show should be about 0.0005. [That's
 the gist of what the manual says, anyhow.]


Oh, OK, that makes sense.  I get it now.  So where did you get the
magnetic base?  Same seller?

Alex

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[MBZ] Tools for adjusting front wheel bearings

2007-09-14 Thread Craig McCluskey
Found a dial indicator on eBay which has 0.0001 resolution (quite
adequate for adjusting front wheel bearings :-) ) for $15. The fellow says
he has 12, so I thought I'd pass the information along.

http://cgi.ebay.com/dial-indicator_W0QQitemZ200146195835QQihZ010QQcategoryZ25272QQcmdZViewItem


I also got a magnetic base (with on-off switch) for $7.95 and $11.25
shipping.



Craig

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