Re: [MBZ] Trans upgrades
Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com writes: Can anybody be more specific about what you do in the K1 procedure? Allan Streib wrote: The old mbz.org site has a write-up. http://articles.mbz.org/transmission/k1/ The pics have gone missing. We went through this a couple of months ago and someone on the list had copies of the images. But those were the images for the wrong article. Here is a different article with good pictures. http://w123maintenance.blogspot.com/2008/02/k-1-spring-kit-replacement-and.html -- Philip ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Trans upgrades
On Nov 29, 2011 9:50 AM, Fmiser fmi...@gmail.com wrote: Here is a different article with good pictures. http://w123maintenance.blogspot.com/2008/02/k-1-spring-kit-replacement-and.html Great link, Philip, thanks! What exactly are the symptoms that this procedure is needed? The tranny in my '87 has always been harsh on the 2-3 and 3-4 shifts and a little soft on the 1-2 despite meticulous by-the-book adjustment of the linkages and vacuum control. I don't know how old it is---I think quite possibly it's original since it takes two or three seconds to engage reverse from neutral. Alex Alex ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Trans upgrades
Alex Chamberlain apchamberl...@gmail.com writes: What exactly are the symptoms that this procedure is needed? The K1 spring upgrade is supposed to firm up the 2/3 shift. So if yours is already harsh you probably don't need/want it. Allan -- 1983 300D 1979 300SD ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Trans upgrades
Thats pretty clear, thanks! I guess I'm not going to bother though, theres no flare in my transmission, just a hard 1-2 shift when cold. I'm hoping that will clear up with M1 fluid. -Curt Date: Thu, 24 Nov 2011 16:24:19 + (UTC) From: dbl...@comcast.net To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] Trans upgrades Message-ID: 177229107.218021.1322151859809.javamail.r...@sz0109a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Happy Thanksgiving to all who celebrate it, The best description of the K1 I found was here; www.benzworld.org/forums/w201-190-class/1361737-diy-mercedes-722-3-722-4-a.html The description was exactly on, I did it about 6 weeks ago on my youngest daughter's 190e and after removing and cleaning the valve body. Long story but I ended up replacing the transmission anyway with one from the pick-n-pull and swapping out the valve body again. Apologies to those who dislike top posting :-) David Liddell '77 240d '85 190e Some Volvos Some boats Some Chevrolets ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Trans upgrades
Can anybody be more specific about what you do in the K1 procedure? I'm taking the week after Christmas off and lining up my jobs. Figuring on a trans service with M1. Car has ~175,000 miles with dubious maintenance previously. I had my Indy do the trans fluid and filter 15k ago with just conventional fluid which I'm considering a flush... -Curt Date: Wed, 23 Nov 2011 21:43:47 -0500 From: Allan Streib str...@cs.indiana.edu To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] Trans upgrades Message-ID: m162ianst8@cs.indiana.edu Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Michael Canfield slozuk...@gmail.com writes: I will be changing the transmission fluid and filter in my 83 300d soon. I have read about upgraded parts that I should change while in there. I believe one is a K1 spring kit, what else is there I should do while in there to make it last? It has under 150k miles and is just starting to flare a bit on the 2 to 3 shift. The spring kit is easy enough, though in my 300D I can't say it really made a noticeable difference. I did it when my B2 piston broke and I had things opened up. M1 ATF is good stuff though. Worth the $$ in my opinion. Allan -- 1983 300D 1979 300SD ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Trans upgrades
If you drain the torque converter you will remove nearly all the old fluid -- what's left is in the valve body, servos, and pump. Less than a quart, probably no more than a pint or so, and can be ignored. The fluid change 15k ago did a nice flush job for you. Peter On Nov 24, 2011, at 9:22 AM, Curt Raymond wrote: Can anybody be more specific about what you do in the K1 procedure? I'm taking the week after Christmas off and lining up my jobs. Figuring on a trans service with M1. Car has ~175,000 miles with dubious maintenance previously. I had my Indy do the trans fluid and filter 15k ago with just conventional fluid which I'm considering a flush... -Curt Date: Wed, 23 Nov 2011 21:43:47 -0500 From: Allan Streib str...@cs.indiana.edu To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] Trans upgrades Message-ID: m162ianst8@cs.indiana.edu Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Michael Canfield slozuk...@gmail.com writes: I will be changing the transmission fluid and filter in my 83 300d soon. I have read about upgraded parts that I should change while in there. I believe one is a K1 spring kit, what else is there I should do while in there to make it last? It has under 150k miles and is just starting to flare a bit on the 2 to 3 shift. The spring kit is easy enough, though in my 300D I can't say it really made a noticeable difference. I did it when my B2 piston broke and I had things opened up. M1 ATF is good stuff though. Worth the $$ in my opinion. Allan -- 1983 300D 1979 300SD ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Trans upgrades
Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com writes: Can anybody be more specific about what you do in the K1 procedure? The old mbz.org site has a write-up. http://articles.mbz.org/transmission/k1/ The pics have gone missing. We went through this a couple of months ago and someone on the list had copies of the images. You could search the archives, if you don't believe the malware warnings from Google. Allan -- 1983 300D 1979 300SD ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Trans upgrades
Actually thats what I meant. I didn't want to go right to M1 not knowing how long it had been since the previous change so I had conventional put in and figured to run it for a short time to move any crud out. -Curt Date: Thu, 24 Nov 2011 09:43:05 -0600 From: Peter Frederick psf...@earthlink.net To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] Trans upgrades Message-ID: 2150a39e-ab24-44ae-a504-6461286a0...@earthlink.net Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed If you drain the torque converter you will remove nearly all the old fluid -- what's left is in the valve body, servos, and pump. Less than a quart, probably no more than a pint or so, and can be ignored. The fluid change 15k ago did a nice flush job for you. Peter On Nov 24, 2011, at 9:22 AM, Curt Raymond wrote: Can anybody be more specific about what you do in the K1 procedure? I'm taking the week after Christmas off and lining up my jobs. Figuring on a trans service with M1. Car has ~175,000 miles with dubious maintenance previously. I had my Indy do the trans fluid and filter 15k ago with just conventional fluid which I'm considering a flush... -Curt ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Trans upgrades
Happy Thanksgiving to all who celebrate it, The best description of the K1 I found was here; www.benzworld.org/forums/w201-190-class/1361737-diy-mercedes-722-3-722-4-a.html The description was exactly on, I did it about 6 weeks ago on my youngest daughter's 190e and after removing and cleaning the valve body. Long story but I ended up replacing the transmission anyway with one from the pick-n-pull and swapping out the valve body again. Apologies to those who dislike top posting :-) David Liddell '77 240d '85 190e Some Volvos Some boats Some Chevrolets -- Message: 5 Date: Thu, 24 Nov 2011 07:22:15 -0800 (PST) From: Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com To: Diesel List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] Trans upgrades Message-ID: 1322148135.85505.yahoomailclas...@web161012.mail.bf1.yahoo.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Can anybody be more specific about what you do in the K1 procedure? I'm taking the week after Christmas off and lining up my jobs. Figuring on a trans service with M1. Car has ~175,000 miles with dubious maintenance previously. I had my Indy do the trans fluid and filter 15k ago with just conventional fluid which I'm considering a flush... ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Trans upgrades
benZworld.org had a writeup with photos Sent from my iPhone On Nov 24, 2011, at 9:59 AM, Allan Streib str...@cs.indiana.edu wrote: Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com writes: Can anybody be more specific about what you do in the K1 procedure? The old mbz.org site has a write-up. http://articles.mbz.org/transmission/k1/ The pics have gone missing. We went through this a couple of months ago and someone on the list had copies of the images. You could search the archives, if you don't believe the malware warnings from Google. Allan -- 1983 300D 1979 300SD ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Trans upgrades
I will be changing the transmission fluid and filter in my 83 300d soon. I have read about upgraded parts that I should change while in there. I believe one is a K1 spring kit, what else is there I should do while in there to make it last? It has under 150k miles and is just starting to flare a bit on the 2 to 3 shift. Thanks All, Mike ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Trans upgrades
Michael Canfield slozuk...@gmail.com writes: I will be changing the transmission fluid and filter in my 83 300d soon. I have read about upgraded parts that I should change while in there. I believe one is a K1 spring kit, what else is there I should do while in there to make it last? It has under 150k miles and is just starting to flare a bit on the 2 to 3 shift. The spring kit is easy enough, though in my 300D I can't say it really made a noticeable difference. I did it when my B2 piston broke and I had things opened up. M1 ATF is good stuff though. Worth the $$ in my opinion. Allan -- 1983 300D 1979 300SD ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Trans upgrades
I place several neodymium magnets in the pan and by the filter intake to capture any tiny steel bits floating around. They will be coated with black goo next time you change the filter. Put a few on the power steering filter while you are at it. They stay in place just fine. -Dave Walton On Nov 23, 2011, at 7:03 PM, Michael Canfield slozuk...@gmail.com wrote: I will be changing the transmission fluid and filter in my 83 300d soon. I have read about upgraded parts that I should change while in there. I believe one is a K1 spring kit, what else is there I should do while in there to make it last? It has under 150k miles and is just starting to flare a bit on the 2 to 3 shift. Thanks All, Mike ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
