Re: [MBZ] W123 front speakers
It is hard to find speakers small enough. I think they are 3.5. I found some slightly bigger and just crammed them in there. The grilles fit back over but just barely. It sounds better but not a whole lot. I run an aftermarket Kenwood. Consider putting a subwoofer under a seat or in the emergency kit space. There is no resonance at all in the rear speaker mount locations, so no bass. Careful not to crack the dash when smashing the front speakers into submission. Yes I know this is from August. I did this speaker R/R back in about 2003. Still sounds fine. Do a search and you will find some threads about the car and what speakers work. K On Sun, Aug 10, 2014 at 6:47 PM, RA via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Andrew, I also listen to classical while driving, I support WETA. I rather like Telamon and Motzart. My speakers are fine, but I plan to upgrade. R Original Message Subject: [MBZ] W123 front speakers From: Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com Date: Tue, July 22, 2014 11:33 am To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com The front speakers are shot on the 1983 300TD. How wasy is it to R/R the front speakers? Anybody have any good used ones sitting on a shelf? Is it possible to purchase a pair of new or NOS speakers that fit exactly without rewiring? Andrew Who listens exclusively to classical music when he drives his German machine. (Bach is das best accompaniment to the turbodiesel engine noise) ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] W123 front speakers
Andrew, I also listen to classical while driving, I support WETA. I rather like Telamon and Motzart. My speakers are fine, but I plan to upgrade. R Original Message Subject: [MBZ] W123 front speakers From: Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com Date: Tue, July 22, 2014 11:33 am To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com The front speakers are shot on the 1983 300TD. How wasy is it to R/R the front speakers? Anybody have any good used ones sitting on a shelf? Is it possible to purchase a pair of new or NOS speakers that fit exactly without rewiring? Andrew Who listens exclusively to classical music when he drives his German machine. (Bach is das best accompaniment to the turbodiesel engine noise) ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
[MBZ] W123 front speakers
The front speakers are shot on the 1983 300TD. How wasy is it to R/R the front speakers? Anybody have any good used ones sitting on a shelf? Is it possible to purchase a pair of new or NOS speakers that fit exactly without rewiring? Andrew Who listens exclusively to classical music when he drives his German machine. (Bach is das best accompaniment to the turbodiesel engine noise) ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] W123 front speakers
Those are pretty hard to get at but doable. I think the originals are some particular size known only to gnomes in the Black Forest. I think (I can't remember now for sure) I put some new ones in the TD, took a lot of contortions, or maybe I did the contortions then decided it wasn't worth it. They are fairly small as I recall, maybe 2 or 3 inches. someone else probably has better info and could contradict my experience, which was soon after I got the car and probably pre-list. --R On 7/22/14 11:33 AM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote: The front speakers are shot on the 1983 300TD. How wasy is it to R/R the front speakers? Anybody have any good used ones sitting on a shelf? Is it possible to purchase a pair of new or NOS speakers that fit exactly without rewiring? Andrew Who listens exclusively to classical music when he drives his German machine. (Bach is das best accompaniment to the turbodiesel engine noise) ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] W123 front speakers
I don't have a turbo, but I just listen to the engine. (That is because there is a hole in the dash where the radio is supposed to be.) On 22/07/2014 10:33 AM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote: Andrew Who listens exclusively to classical music when he drives his German machine. (Bach is das best accompaniment to the turbodiesel engine noise) ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] W123 front speakers
http://www.beckerautosound.com/Speaker/mb speakers 123.html Rick Sent from my BlackBerry 10 smartphone. Original Message From: Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes Sent: Tuesday, July 22, 2014 10:33 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Reply To: Andrew Strasfogel Subject: [MBZ] W123 front speakers The front speakers are shot on the 1983 300TD. How wasy is it to R/R the front speakers? Anybody have any good used ones sitting on a shelf? Is it possible to purchase a pair of new or NOS speakers that fit exactly without rewiring? Andrew Who listens exclusively to classical music when he drives his German machine. (Bach is das best accompaniment to the turbodiesel engine noise) ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] W123 front speakers
Isn't there just a little Phillips head screw that holds the grille in place on the W123? The speakers are metric in size, so if you buy aftermarket speakers be aware of the for fitment purposes. Dan Sent from my iPad On Jul 22, 2014, at 12:52 PM, Rick Knoble via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: http://www.beckerautosound.com/Speaker/mb speakers 123.html Rick Sent from my BlackBerry 10 smartphone. Original Message From: Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes Sent: Tuesday, July 22, 2014 10:33 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Reply To: Andrew Strasfogel Subject: [MBZ] W123 front speakers The front speakers are shot on the 1983 300TD. How wasy is it to R/R the front speakers? Anybody have any good used ones sitting on a shelf? Is it possible to purchase a pair of new or NOS speakers that fit exactly without rewiring? Andrew Who listens exclusively to classical music when he drives his German machine. (Bach is das best accompaniment to the turbodiesel engine noise) ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] W123 front speakers
The originals are easy to get at... Remove the single screw from the grille and contort it out... They originals sit in the opening... Special clip-in IIRC. A 4 aftermarket can probably fit in there if you cut off the mounting ears (save 1) and make sure it does not have a protrusion (such as a 2-way) above the rim... You CAN mount new ones underneath, but be careful of the eyeball vents; you will have to disassemble them and could break them (twisting the body with respect to the front ring seems to get them out relatively undamaged). Going for under mount, you might want to keep a unit or so in your type/rh factor handy, especially if your hands aren't small... -- John W Reames jream...@verizon.net Home: +14106646986 Mobile: +14437915905 On Jul 22, 2014, at 12:25, Rich Thomas via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Those are pretty hard to get at but doable. I think the originals are some particular size known only to gnomes in the Black Forest. I think (I can't remember now for sure) I put some new ones in the TD, took a lot of contortions, or maybe I did the contortions then decided it wasn't worth it. They are fairly small as I recall, maybe 2 or 3 inches. someone else probably has better info and could contradict my experience, which was soon after I got the car and probably pre-list. --R On 7/22/14 11:33 AM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote: The front speakers are shot on the 1983 300TD. How wasy is it to R/R the front speakers? Anybody have any good used ones sitting on a shelf? Is it possible to purchase a pair of new or NOS speakers that fit exactly without rewiring? Andrew Who listens exclusively to classical music when he drives his German machine. (Bach is das best accompaniment to the turbodiesel engine noise) ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] W123 front speakers
Becker Autosound has metric speakers that fit perfectly! Jaime On Tue, Jul 22, 2014 at 11:33 AM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: The front speakers are shot on the 1983 300TD. How wasy is it to R/R the front speakers? Anybody have any good used ones sitting on a shelf? Is it possible to purchase a pair of new or NOS speakers that fit exactly without rewiring? Andrew Who listens exclusively to classical music when he drives his German machine. (Bach is das best accompaniment to the turbodiesel engine noise) ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. -- Jaime Kopchinski http://www.jaimekop.com/ ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
