Re: [MBZ] W124 Fog Lights 91 300D
I replaced the *Light Out Sensor Box* behind the fuse panel -- still no fog lights. Next I need to check the bulbs. Would be a huge coincidence if both died at the same time.. eh? ;-) Larry On 4/22/2014 1:23 PM, LarryT wrote: Thx Jim - I'm pretty sure my Fog lights work regardless of which lights are on - they'll also work with only the parking lights. But I'll check - I'll also look for the Lamp-Out Sensor Box. Is it near the fuse box? Thanks again - Larry On 4/22/2014 9:29 AM, Jim Cathey wrote: no lights, no warning of failed bulbs, nothing - just no fog lights. You sure the high beams aren't on? Both bulbs good? I'm 90% sure the fuses are DOWNSTREAM of the switch, so if they're hot (only with the switch on, of course) then that eliminates everything upstream. There's the lamp-out sensor box in there, I'm sure that could cause trouble. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] W124 Fog Lights 91 300D
I should be on the green list, if you have one. On Wed, Apr 23, 2014 at 12:52 AM, Rick Knoble rickkno...@hotmail.comwrote: Yeah. I was getting suspended for bounces from anyone with yahoo dot com email addresses . I had to white list Dimitri, Curt, and Fred. Anyone I forgot? Rick Sent from my BlackBerry 10 smartphone. *From: *Mountain Man *Sent: *Tuesday, April 22, 2014 8:04 PM *To: *Mercedes Discussion List *Reply To: *Mercedes Discussion List *Subject: *Re: [MBZ] W124 Fog Lights 91 300D -Curt wrote: Don't do like me and forget that the fog lights don't work with the high beams on... Curt - you are using DMARC yahoomail and gmail puts your messages in SPAM. Mercedeslist has had an ongoing thread about DMARC for the past week. Yahoo processes all sbcglobal email - i.e. all the att email. Does our admin Dan/Kaleb know anything about this DMARC issue? Perhaps as professional IT Dan sees the DMARC yahoo issue? HOG really went wild on the markets today from what I heard - you should be up north... ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] W124 Fog Lights 91 300D
From:Andrew StrasfogelSent:Wednesday, April 23, 2014 9:27 AMTo:Mercedes Discussion ListReply To:Mercedes Discussion ListSubject:Re: [MBZ] W124 Fog Lights 91 300DI should be on the green list, if you have one.On Wed, Apr 23, 2014 at 12:52 AM, Rick Knoble rickkno...@hotmail.comwrote: Yeah. I was getting suspended for bounces from anyone with yahoo dot com email addresses . I had to white list Dimitri, Curt, and Fred. Anyone I forgot?Green list... Hmm. Environmentally green? Green tea affectionado? Favorite smoking materials are green? Rick Sent from my BlackBerry 10 smartphone. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] W124 Fog Lights 91 300D
Hi Jim, I double checked the lights - they are not working in any situation - I am 100% sure they worked with the high and low beams on as well as the Park lights only on. I hadn't considered both bulbs being bad - I'll pull the bulbs and see if I am getting 12V to them. I wonder what might cause both bulbs to fail without any notice from the Light out sensor? I'll take a look at the wiring diagram also... Thanks for the suggestion - LarryT 91 300D On 4/22/2014 9:29 AM, Jim Cathey wrote: no lights, no warning of failed bulbs, nothing - just no fog lights. You sure the high beams aren't on? Both bulbs good? I'm 90% sure the fuses are DOWNSTREAM of the switch, so if they're hot (only with the switch on, of course) then that eliminates everything upstream. There's the lamp-out sensor box in there, I'm sure that could cause trouble. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] W124 Fog Lights 91 300D
Also green for hope, green with envy? Sent from my iPhone On Apr 23, 2014, at 10:27 AM, Andrew Strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.com wrote: I should be on the green list, if you have one. On Wed, Apr 23, 2014 at 12:52 AM, Rick Knoble rickkno...@hotmail.comwrote: Yeah. I was getting suspended for bounces from anyone with yahoo dot com email addresses . I had to white list Dimitri, Curt, and Fred. Anyone I forgot? Rick Sent from my BlackBerry 10 smartphone. *From: *Mountain Man *Sent: *Tuesday, April 22, 2014 8:04 PM *To: *Mercedes Discussion List *Reply To: *Mercedes Discussion List *Subject: *Re: [MBZ] W124 Fog Lights 91 300D -Curt wrote: Don't do like me and forget that the fog lights don't work with the high beams on... Curt - you are using DMARC yahoomail and gmail puts your messages in SPAM. Mercedeslist has had an ongoing thread about DMARC for the past week. Yahoo processes all sbcglobal email - i.e. all the att email. Does our admin Dan/Kaleb know anything about this DMARC issue? Perhaps as professional IT Dan sees the DMARC yahoo issue? HOG really went wild on the markets today from what I heard - you should be up north... ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] W124 Fog Lights 91 300D
Yes, yes, no. -- Wednesday, 23 April 2014, 03:51PM -0400 from Rick Knoble rickkno...@hotmail.com: From: Andrew Strasfogel Sent: Wednesday, April 23, 2014 9:27 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Reply To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] W124 Fog Lights 91 300D I should be on the green list, if you have one. On Wed, Apr 23, 2014 at 12:52 AM, Rick Knoble rickkno...@hotmail.comwrote: Yeah. I was getting suspended for bounces from anyone with yahoo dot com email addresses . I had to white list Dimitri, Curt, and Fred. Anyone I forgot? Green list... Hmm. Environmentally green? Green tea affectionado? Favorite smoking materials are green? Rick Sent from my BlackBerry 10 smartphone. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] W124 Fog Lights 91 300D
You are a watermelon --R On 4/23/14 4:45 PM, astrasfo...@gmail.com wrote: Yes, yes, no. -- Wednesday, 23 April 2014, 03:51PM -0400 from Rick Knoble rickkno...@hotmail.com: From: Andrew Strasfogel Sent: Wednesday, April 23, 2014 9:27 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Reply To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] W124 Fog Lights 91 300D I should be on the green list, if you have one. On Wed, Apr 23, 2014 at 12:52 AM, Rick Knoble rickkno...@hotmail.comwrote: Yeah. I was getting suspended for bounces from anyone with yahoo dot com email addresses . I had to white list Dimitri, Curt, and Fred. Anyone I forgot? Green list... Hmm. Environmentally green? Green tea affectionado? Favorite smoking materials are green? Rick Sent from my BlackBerry 10 smartphone. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] W124 Fog Lights 91 300D
no lights, no warning of failed bulbs, nothing - just no fog lights. You sure the high beams aren't on? Both bulbs good? I'm 90% sure the fuses are DOWNSTREAM of the switch, so if they're hot (only with the switch on, of course) then that eliminates everything upstream. There's the lamp-out sensor box in there, I'm sure that could cause trouble. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] W124 Fog Lights 91 300D
Thx Jim - I'm pretty sure my Fog lights work regardless of which lights are on - they'll also work with only the parking lights. But I'll check - I'll also look for the Lamp-Out Sensor Box. Is it near the fuse box? Thanks again - Larry On 4/22/2014 9:29 AM, Jim Cathey wrote: no lights, no warning of failed bulbs, nothing - just no fog lights. You sure the high beams aren't on? Both bulbs good? I'm 90% sure the fuses are DOWNSTREAM of the switch, so if they're hot (only with the switch on, of course) then that eliminates everything upstream. There's the lamp-out sensor box in there, I'm sure that could cause trouble. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] W124 Fog Lights 83 300D
On the subject of fog lights, I bought a pair of proper size foglights from FLAPS for my '83 300D. When I got home and tried to install them, they were not sealed beam but had removable bulbs and would not attach to supporting structure for the old sealbeams, and the bulb assbly was wire in rather than plug in. Do the old sealed beams have to be special ordered someplace, or would I be likely to find the small sealed beams if I keep checking with local dealers? Thanks, Gerry ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] W124 Fog Lights 91 300D
Don't do like me and forget that the fog lights don't work with the high beams on... -Curt Date: Tue, 22 Apr 2014 13:23:27 -0400 From: LarryT l02tur...@comcast.net To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] W124 Fog Lights 91 300D Message-ID: 5356a58f.2040...@comcast.net Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Thx Jim - I'm pretty sure my Fog lights work regardless of which lights are on - they'll also work with only the parking lights. But I'll check - I'll also look for the Lamp-Out Sensor Box. Is it near the fuse box? Thanks again - Larry ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] W124 Fog Lights 91 300D
-Curt wrote: Don't do like me and forget that the fog lights don't work with the high beams on... Curt - you are using DMARC yahoomail and gmail puts your messages in SPAM. Mercedeslist has had an ongoing thread about DMARC for the past week. Yahoo processes all sbcglobal email - i.e. all the att email. Does our admin Dan/Kaleb know anything about this DMARC issue? Perhaps as professional IT Dan sees the DMARC yahoo issue? HOG really went wild on the markets today from what I heard - you should be up north... mao ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] W124 Fog Lights 91 300D
My gmail doesn't put curt's messages in spam. Not on my smart phone or my laptop. YMMV. 5might be your security settings. On Apr 22, 2014 9:04 PM, Mountain Man maontin@gmail.com wrote: -Curt wrote: Don't do like me and forget that the fog lights don't work with the high beams on... Curt - you are using DMARC yahoomail and gmail puts your messages in SPAM. Mercedeslist has had an ongoing thread about DMARC for the past week. Yahoo processes all sbcglobal email - i.e. all the att email. Does our admin Dan/Kaleb know anything about this DMARC issue? Perhaps as professional IT Dan sees the DMARC yahoo issue? HOG really went wild on the markets today from what I heard - you should be up north... mao ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] W124 Fog Lights 91 300D
Yeah. I was getting suspended for bounces from anyone with yahoo dot com email addresses . I had to white list Dimitri, Curt, and Fred. Anyone I forgot? Rick Sent from my BlackBerry 10 smartphone. From: Mountain ManSent: Tuesday, April 22, 2014 8:04 PMTo: Mercedes Discussion ListReply To: Mercedes Discussion ListSubject: Re: [MBZ] W124 Fog Lights 91 300D -Curt wrote: Don't do like me and forget that the fog lights don't work with the high beams on... Curt - you are using DMARC yahoomail and gmail puts your messages in SPAM. Mercedeslist has had an ongoing thread about DMARC for the past week. Yahoo processes all sbcglobal email - i.e. all the att email. Does our admin Dan/Kaleb know anything about this DMARC issue? Perhaps as professional IT Dan sees the DMARC yahoo issue? HOG really went wild on the markets today from what I heard - you should be up north... ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
[MBZ] W124 Fog Lights 91 300D
Hi All, I am having some problems with my email programs so please forgive me if this is a duplicate. When we pull the knob to activate the fogs nothing happens, no lights, no warning of failed bulbs, nothing - just no fog lights. I checked the fuse - it's intact and it's hot on both sides of the fuse. Any suggestions? Possibly the switch? Any good way to test the switch? I assume there are some terminals I can put 12v on and I should get 12v on other terminals when I put the switch in different positions? Everything will be disassembled soon when I RR the AC Evaporator in a week or so when the parts are here and my wife has some time off. And the stars and moons align Thanks! LarryT 91 300D ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
[MBZ] W124 Fog Lights
Hi Ya'll, The fog lights stopped working - the Light Out warning Light in the dash didn't work but it always worked in the past - I checked the Fuse which is intact and 'hot' on each side of the fuse. I'm at a loss to know what to look at next. Any ideas? All other lights function normally... Thanks - Larry 1991 MB 300D 2.5 W124 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] W124 Fog Lights
Headlight switch. Dan Sent from my iPad On Apr 20, 2014, at 1:37 PM, LarryT l02tur...@comcast.net wrote: Hi Ya'll, The fog lights stopped working - the Light Out warning Light in the dash didn't work but it always worked in the past - I checked the Fuse which is intact and 'hot' on each side of the fuse. I'm at a loss to know what to look at next. Any ideas? All other lights function normally... Thanks - Larry 1991 MB 300D 2.5 W124 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] W124 Fog Lights
If both bulbs are burned out, the light out won't detect the problem. It measures the current flow to each side of the car. Max Dillon, Charleston SC On Apr 20, 2014 1:38 PM, LarryT l02tur...@comcast.net wrote: Hi Ya'll, The fog lights stopped working - the Light Out warning Light in the dash didn't work but it always worked in the past - I checked the Fuse which is intact and 'hot' on each side of the fuse. I'm at a loss to know what to look at next. Any ideas? All other lights function normally... Thanks - Larry 1991 MB 300D 2.5 W124 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] W124 Fog Lights
The fog lights stopped working - the Light Out warning Light in the dash didn't work but it always worked in the past - I checked the Fuse which is intact and 'hot' on each side of the fuse. Aren't L R fogs fused separately? I thought I recalled that the usual MB fuse box had 6 headlight fuses. Anyway, the fuses are downstream of the headlight switch. If the fuses are hot the switch isn't at fault. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] W124 Fog Lights
Could be the bulb-out unit as well, if the solder cracks on the pins (as lead free solder is known to do) the fuses will be hot but no current gets to the lamps. Peter ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
